The PreSonus Revelator io24 is AWESOME...but...
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:19 Value Proposition
01:30 Controversy
02:30 Build Quality
03:22 Specs
03:52 Software
05:49 Noise Floor
06:48 Noise Gate
8:01 DI Test With Guitar
8:28 Pros and Cons
10:00 Final Thoughts
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I've been using it for months now. I'm one of the lucky ones who don't have the self-generated noise coming from the headphone out. It is a great unit MINUS the GATE which for me is useless since I really can hear it cut the signal. I use the DBX 286s in combination with this. The compressor is really good. I made a ticket with presonus asking them to make the universal control compatible with streamdeck since I really don't want to mute my mic using the app but a physical button of the streamdeck. other than what I mentioned it is a very good unit. Using it on my two PC gaming/streaming setup.
Great video and thanks for raising the issues some of us early adopters have had it’s been an emotional firmware and hardware rollercoaster 😂
just ordered one of these myself. they had a major price cut recently bringing the device down to $99 new, and for that kind of money with those features, i figured it's definitely worth a try. looking forward to checking it out!
How it was?
I guess I don't dig deep enough into the audio content rabbithole, but this is the first (more detailed) review I've seen on the Revelator io24. Been eyeing it for a while, but I guess I can stick with the EVO 4 given the cons. Much appreciate this!
Thank for sharing. Recently lost my Focusrite 4i4 3rd generation to a Power Surge and was looking for a new comparable AI and for this price with the extras minus the 2 extra inputs would you recommend the io24 or stick with the Focusrite. I am a musician not a Podcaster and will slightly miss those 2 extra ins but for this price I can sacrifice the 2 extras. Also at this price point I've yet to find a reputable company making these budget AI'S with a midi I/O because my new Mini Nova synth hates me right now for getting neglected and I could also use that synth as a 3rd and 4th input due to the fact it has a mic input on the synth and it won't take up one of the 2 main ins. Sorry for the long post but I subscribed and thanks for the review!
Great video and great thumbnail. Much better than if it said something silly like „super powerful“ :^)
Yeah...also the title of the video was meant to carry the positive...
I do understand why people shy away from negatives though...
Great demo! Was the initial batch the ones possibly affected with the issues or a bit later ? Just curious if I were to get one now vs 4months ago.
You should be good..Mine has this fault and they are exchanging it so you can't fault their approach
Hi. Love your channel. Question, I have revelater io24, an atem mini ( 4 cameras), a dig mixer qsc quickmix 16, what would be the best set up for livestream, exclusivly karaoke . Thks so much in advance for your effort to help. Wish you much sucess!!!
I like the unit but I was hoping I could play a RUclips video and simultaneously record into Studio One at the same time with the audio routing software. I can't figure out if it can be done.
Hey! great video. Is a cloud mic filter still needed for the Shure SM7B on this interface? Thanks
Hello, thanks for your video. I have a question: Do you know if the audio interface allows using presets without being connected to the PC? I would love to have the freedom to use my saved configurations directly on the interface (not sure if it has any kind of memory for storing these settings) to play with my guitar and sing, with parameters like reverb and compressor already set, without depending on the computer.
For RUclips création and sing, does it make the job or should i prefer scarlett or volt with 196khz ?
Glad I found your video. Great review. I want to buy one but then I saw its sample rate is only 98khz where eg Motu has 192 Khz so I can have full audio potential on Tidal or other music. Damn I cant decide between them, I stream and listen to music.
Hardly any media has been recorded at sample rates above 96khz, as that is already far past the point of diminishing returns in audio fidelity. 44.1khz and 48khz are all you need, with 96khz just being nice to have.
For "HIFI" quality, Tidal uses FLAC at 24 bit 44.1khz, and for "Master" quality, it uses MQA, which claims to reach much higher sample rates but in reality has been proven to be absolute BS, it actually measures worse than FLAC. So, use Tidal in "HIFI" quality to listen to music in FLAC, the absolute best audio format imo. In a blind AB test, there is no way a human can tell the difference between a FLAC 24bit 44.1khz file and a WAV file, so enjoy it.
The actual speakers or headphones used when listening to music matter MUCH more than digital audio format. I would say the speakers and the room they are in or the headphones used make up 80% of the listening experience, with 8% being the amplification used to power said speakers/headphones, 8% being the listener's current state of mind, and the remaining 4% being the source (such as a PC), DAC, digital format, cables (varies), and everything else.
Which brings me to my next point. Don't worry about something as meaningless as digital format when you are using the integrated headphone amp of a budget audio interface. Budget audio interfaces typically have great analog to digital converters, as their name implies, and their DACs are typically good, but their headphone amps are usually horrible, worse than even the integrated ones on pc motherboards. Treat yourself to a good headphone amp. My recommendation is something like the atom dac+ and amp+ stack or the qudelix 5k. Using the headphone jack of an audio interface is great for monitoring your recording, as there is typically no latency, but not for high-fidelity playback.
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Is this good interface for recording vocals and make music. Thank you.
Hello can u tell me which interface is good for shure mv7x I'm using Scarlett solo 3rd gen but i can't get enough gain, I'm planning to return it or should i go for Audient iD4 (MKII) or SSL2 or MOTU M2 im planing to live stream please help me
I'd like to know if the DSP effects can be applied to the software playback and virtual channels or only to Mic/Instrument inputs. Anyone ?
very great presentation
My first unit was a dud, but the replacement has worked perfectly so far. The presets are very iffy, especially the compressor in my opinion. I mostly get much better results using manual settings but for someone that doesn't plan to tinker this unit probably isn't a good choice.
I highly recommend anyone looking to buy this to steer clear from it. It doesn't have enough dB to support the SM7B and the software NEVER remembers the settings between restarts. To get it replaced, I have to go 3+ weeks without an audio interface and pay for shipping myself.
@@naivetywhat did you get then? Got a sm7b too
I can get this for 80 with a goxlr mic (62) or i can get a used scarlett solo 3rd gen for 90. I also need the streaming featuress so which should i go for?
Do you use studio monitors with this? Im concerned with interference noise
if theyd make one with 4 true quality inputs id buy it instantly
it would be great to have actual io flexibility
Great review, thanks Aidan.
Cheers Bill!!
@@DarkCornerStudios btw, I really like the way you present the specs in your reviews. (I recall you were wondering if this was something viewers wanted you to keep doing.) The way you combine your voice and the on screen titles at this part is really cool and doesn’t get bogged down. Cheers.
So you know the effects only work or one XLR port so you can't have two people and effects. That might be the next model up feature
I was thinking about choosing this and mini GOXLR, but I noticed people said having a cloudfilter or fethead would be required to run sm7b while using the io24.
What's your thoughts on it?
It wi run the SM7B as is. I like my unit.
Been using this for several months, and from a streamer's perspective I've got several complaints: no keybinding in Universal Control - no way to mute specific channels without alt-tabbing out of the game/DAW or whatever else you were doing. That said, you can control the unit with a android/iOS app, but you NEED a tablet in order to do that comfortably - interface is way too small on the phone. I wish presonus actually made a stream deck plugin. No de-esser. Why though? I don't really care that much for voice changer and would much rather have a de-esser.
But other that that, it's an amazing unit. Really awesome DSP (and fun fact - you can control all the effects of the on-board DSP with the Studio One DAW, which makes it so much easier to do different presets for different mics), profiles with different Fat Channel settings, scenes with specific gains, mixer slider levels etc, submixes. I do really love the unit tbh. I kinda miss my GoXLR's sliders, but eh, whatever.
It has a de-essor. Check your manual. Easier to download the PDF and searxh for it as it's easy missed.
A go.xlr is way.more expensive to compare against
@@Andrewc87563 Yeah, but then I have to sacrifice compressor to have a de-esser, which is not ideal. I'm talking about dedicated de-esser.
GoXLR Mini is not that more expensive, something around 20-30$ more.
@@Neverwho second that to have a de-esser you have to get rid of compressor. Also when it launched the device had 3 stream mixes one that was dedicate button and they completely removed it. So anyone that got one for three stream mixes had been completely miss sold.
Since launch I’ve had to drop 3 different loop back tutorial videos due to changes. I’ve also had bunch of issue that after firmware updates with previously saved global saved settings it can cause a bunch of bugs so I have to build them all over again.
One issues with last two firmware updates is that headphone monitoring volume adjustments do nothing until I change to another mix then back again.
As for presonus yes they are replacing units and there marketing team contacted me directly to send me a new unit. But I asked them, what’s the actual issue in regards to headphone and Main out noise, can users find out if they have a dodgy unit by serial number, and how do they get a replacement. The answer I was given was we have a some working units in the office, and effected users will need to contact support. So pretty poor in there end even if they are replacing them now.
I’ve also decided to go through the proper channels to get the original effected unit replaced to see the process and 3 weeks after sending it off still no replacement.
That being said based on what it offers now and if they can iron out the last few bugs it’s still a great device but the early adopters tax on this device has been a shitty experience.
@@Neverwho A de-essor is a compressor. Careful you might end up with a photocopy of a photocopy of Michel Keaton as happened in one his movies to make a village idiot.
@@thefullsetup Sometimes it's the journey and not the destination that makes life interesting.
As a software product it can be expected to change overtime.
Theres are on sale atm for $80 and im having a hard time talking myself out of one for an FX processor and portable interface. I have about 5 interfaces, but i dont have a pocket FX processor like this.
yes the gate will mess you so i kept mines on low and adjust it now its perfect
Thanks
Interesting device for sure. But it has some issues. For first, FAT Channel XT plugin is not part of the deal, which renders unit less useful for Studio One Prime users. They should bundle device with Studio Artist. Another problems is huge limitation of EQ. Maximum gains are between -15 to 15DdB. But for RIAA EQ curve you need at least -25 to 25dB. So you cannot use built in EQ for phono playback. Weirdly, some more cheaper audio interfaces can handle phono signal. Otherwise cool device.
Any tips for cleaning up the noisy preamps using the built in DSP?
It is tough...not really much...other than finding a mic that requires less gain.
You can use the compression to boost the output signal...but that has its limits as well.
Tinker with the compression and EQ and see what you can get...
@@DarkCornerStudios Maybe you should do a video on why not to buy a microphone that requires a lot of gain?
You could also use a mic booster like the CT-1
What did you use for your spectrum analyzer?
Thanks
I did not use one.
If that is the type of thing you want...hit up Julian Krause...he handles that kind of indepth review
Hi sir, thank you for help. I am writing from Turkey. I hava a question. Can i use with Dt 770 Pro (80 ohm) ?
Yes!
currently using goXlr but i have been looking at this unit. i just upgraded and received my new microphone, earthworks ethos and im wondering if its worth upgrading away from a goxlr to this let me know
I hope you review the presonus revelator dynamic microphone.
It would be interesting to see what you think.
I am awaiting the distributors response to see if I can get my hands on it!
Stay tuned!!
@@DarkCornerStudios i will stay tuned either way. ;-)
@@michaelreed649 got confirmation...mic on the way soon...ad soon as stock is in.
Drawback of living in Canada
@@DarkCornerStudios LOL, Supply chain issues are not just Canada's drawbacks anymore. No worries.
Hello, sorry for the stupid question, is the PreSonus Studio 24c better or PreSonus Revelator io24?
Never a stupid question.
They are two completely different beasts.
Do you need 24 channels?
Then yes.
If you don't...or if you need to control your live audio with inline compression and EQ...
Then no...the 24c is NOT better
@@DarkCornerStudios Roughly speaking, 24c is better for music and mixing, and io24 is better for streaming and podcasting, am I right?
@@galkaeb basically...though interchangeable at the same time.
24c is good for large scale multitrack.
You can do music with the io24
@@DarkCornerStudios Thank you very much!
My only problem is that it can't access more then 2 gigs of ram and I have 16 gigs
Is the 96khz a big deal? How much better is 196khz like a lot of the others?
Thank you
Most people record at 48khz.
Awesome... I like the preset especially when I use it for livestreaming
I have one but my studio monitors make a loud thump when pc shuts down . Is that normal ?
Yes...mute your monitors when you shut it down
@@DarkCornerStudios Thanks !
Does it sync audio and video. Its odd thats one very important thing that live streamers need. Just wondering if they have a sync
what can you do with midi in and out?...
hook up an analog synth and record midi notes?.. idk
If there is a TON of complains PILING tells me there is a huge demand in the market for such a device. BTW i didn´t ran into any issues either, it works flawlessly
I think the supply chain has been fixed.
Probably a faulty soldering iron on the production line somewhere
@@DarkCornerStudios This or Motu M2 for steaming with a sm7 b?
Didn't ran!?
Weird it's called iD24 ? I have Presonus monitors and they were pretty good value but it's not a brand I really salivate over! Still the routing (pronounced like root by us old worlders 🤣) definitely makes it a good option for streamers. Not bad at all.
io24...I think id24 would create at least one lawsuit...lol
@@DarkCornerStudios Ah right! My eyesight is actually good it's your fault for casting shadows. 😂😂😂Nice guitar btw.
@@davidsillars3181 thanks!
It is pretty...sounds pretty sweet too
Just got to get my fingers back in action...God damn slow at this age
the mute button that isnt a mute button boggles my mind
I still have not seen any explanation on what that headphone red light with button is and does. Wtf
how are the preamps on this thing compared to the 2i2? louder or quieter?
They have the same gain I believe.
60db
What was the point of this video?
lol exactly !
Great video! I have been very disappointed with PreSonus's support. And I can't stress this enough, nor will I supply my laundry list of complaints about that here.
I'm using a new and very top of the line Mac and as the revelator io24 is a nice device, the software never fully recognized it properly. Their support kept pointing me back to user-error issues, which is quite understandable as most users don't have as much experience as I do.
I'm taking a risk here but ordered another unit that should be arriving tomorrow. I've dealt with a multitude of support people, both from PreSonus as well as Apple.
If this soon-to-arrive new unit works as it's supposed to and the software recognizes it, the compressor and EQ and streaming/virtual channels features would be a dream come true device.
Fingers crossed
The design is horrible. Why does the mic not mute when monitors are un-muted? The earphone jack in the back was a horrible design flaw. Why not place the headphone jack next to the mute button? This was clearly forced out into the market prematurely and has many flaws. I sent back my faulty unit and it was replaced in a day. That's pretty amazing when it comes to customer service. I think Fender bought this company if I'm not mistaken. I hate the way the mute button turns on my monitors but does nothing to stop feedback from the mic. I'm learning to hate this thing.
Because many people have vocalbooths or setups where you are able to have a mic + monitors on without issues?
Barely any (lowend) interfaces have that. Hell, many consoles outside those found in broadcasting don't have that feature.
As for the headphone jack. You are totally right. I wish it had XLR on the back and headphone in the front. Would be way cleaner.
Since it's marketed towards streamers, it's cleaner too. I don't see many of them switching out mics on a daily bases.
I can only repeat. A gate is not always the same. And to be frank: The gate on this device is trash. There are no settings for the reaction times of the gate. No attack, no hold, no release. Not even a threshold. So how are we supposed to set this correctly? It’s no wonder this gate is too slow to open or close.
Search for the open source plugin ATK Expander. Using that, I can easily make a gate that opens and closes completely unnoticeable.😋
You can set these parameters actually, by click one of the up-right corner button, it'll open the parameter setting page.
@@supersong2820 thanks for letting us know! I was going by what I saw in the video. This could potentially make a difference.
Sorry for the confusion...
Didn't want to go in depth as it would have made the video take forever...
There are a tonne of videos out that can explain it better than me
@@MichaelW.1980 pleased to offer some help😃
@@DarkCornerStudios yeah, it's hard to cover everything in short time
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