Concrete only weighs about 150 pounds for each cubic foot. Lead is about 650 pounds / cubic foot, so you can get a much lower center of gravity by concentrating the weight in the sailboat's limited keel space. Fishing boats don't have keels like sailboats and don't care as much about a low CG because they dont have sails either, and concrete is cheap so for a fishing boat concrete is the best choice, and for a sailboat, lead is the best choice.
Came across your newer ROV vids like 2 months ago. Gotto say Im kinda pissed offt that you have so many videos though....I cant stop freaking watching this stuff!! Love what you and your lady are doing, and good luck and congrats on all the projects past/projects to come from across the pond here in England
Hi Doug, hey I FINALLY have a bit of time to start binge watching your many good video's! This one re. smelting your lead is terrific! Very well organised and so simple (when you know how) hey! Thank you sir for all that have done and are doing AND for so many other people too! The best of luck and health to you! : ) SY Mistress
Very cool. That is an ingenious setup. All that lead is making me drool. You are a lucky man. One sailboat ballast could supply you with bullets for several years.
Absolutely. Apropos and hypnotic as the smoke and the liquid lead. That lead rig is fantastic too. It was good to see and I bet you could even do aluminum with a shorter spout or using the tipping to pour into a trough. Very cool.
My eighty-year old sailboat has 3000 of external lead ballast and there are cracks were the 5/8" bronze keel bolts connect. This ballast was probably once melted in an iron bathtub and that's what I've been thinking of redoing. Your warning about moister have me concerned about the sand mold I would need to make within a box. I'd better warm it up good before pouring. Thanks for the time you two took to share the techniques.
GREAT VIDEO! That really helped me understand how to obtain and melt down lead. Im making lead weights for a submarine me and my friends are constructing. One question though, are there any harmful vapors that are produced in the melting process?
We hit up almost every tire store in Tulsa. Most of the big chains like Sams, Walmart, and FireStone have their own collection programs. The cheap tire stores will reuse old lead weights. You've got to find the stores that are locally owned and sell quality. For us in Tulsa, that is Robinson Tire. It took several attempts but their 7 stores make up most of our business. We pay 17 cents a pound to the owner, and leave a bag of candy for the tire guys. That bag of candy is very important!
I just noticed your cover (hat). Shouldn’t it say “NAVY”. I mean after all it is a boat you’re building lol!! Sorry had to 😉. Former Navy here and always a Texan! But I started way into the build and after 2 shows decides I wanted to start from the beginning. Good show mate! Good show.
Lead is dangerous but it's boiling point is over 3000F so vapors are not a huge issue. However I keep the fire pit free of lead. Avoid breathing the dust from the buckets of wheel weights. Always keep children and young ladies away. Stay out of food preparation areas. Don't eat or drink until you have showered. Wash your cloths separate from the family's. When your done for good, dig up the top soil and haul it to the dump. --Doug
I know this was some time ago, but what were they charging you for the old wheel weights at the tire stores? Also, do you melt down the ingots and pour in the ballast, or throw in the ingots loose? (I'm probably showing my ignorance with that question)
+J DeWitt DIY 17 cents a pound. 21 cents with the cost of the candy to bribe the workers, and 2 cents for gas. So about 23 cents a pound. And most of it will get melted down again.
Lead vapors are only a problem is you exceed the vapor point around (3000F) Just melt the lead, and don't get it much hotter than it's melting point of 620F. A wood fire that takes hours to heat up lead is safer than something like a cutting torch that quickly melts the lead and then could quickly raise the temperature on past the vapor point around 3000F. My goal is die an exciting death. Lead poisoning is not on the list. :)
So I'm sitting here with the volume down watching this for a good 2 minutes before I realized I was watching a 10 year old sv seeker video! Good stuff! I'll have to check out more of your older videos.
@@SVSeeker hahaha...you're not kidding! I've been watching a lot of lead melting videos lately and I've been subscribed to your channel for about a year now. It was actually a really awesome moment when I went from "wow, that guys lead melting setup is really different than anything else I've ever seen" to "HOLY SHIT THATS DOUG FROM SV SEEKER!" The RUclips rabbit hole came full circle for me today. BTW, I really enjoy your videos and can't wait to see Seeker on the water!
@sociopathpsych If you make a routine of it and you can cancel you membership to the gym. :) Most of the big chains have their own recycling programs. You can skip, WallMart, Sams, Firestone, Hibdon, etc.
Mainly I'm too lazy. But the clips, valve stems, lug nuts, occasional brake pad and the other remaining scrap all have small bits of lead clinging to them. The scrap yard would class is as "mixed metals" and only pay $18 to $30 a ton.
Keep the temps below 900F and your fine. Follow the other rules, no children, pregnant women, eating, drinking, especially smoking around it and creating dust, etc. It's all common sense. Pretend it's raw sewage.
u surely need to look into better protection for your lungs working with lead.living to be 90 plus is everyones goal in life.fantastic video on the other hand.thank you
Why not just dump the tire weights into the keel and the dump some hot lead on top? So you wouldn't need to melt so many.... Also, why not just melt the tire weights when your going to pour them into the keel? Seems you have to waste money melting them twice... I hope you don't mind my question. Awesome project!
+leahdin You could not get molten lead at low temps, which is where you want to keep it, to flow very far through cold weights or ingots. You could melt them directly from wheel weight and pour the lead in. But you'll need dump and haul all of the hot steel back out. And would have needed a couple of hundred 5 gal buckets to store them in over that past 6 years. :) And the wood did not cost anything, and it only takes $160 in propane to melt 10 tons of ingots. I like cheap. But I'm not that cheap.
Much too soft. Also poisonous, but I suppose if you were killing someone with it, that would be a moot point. Personally I'd choose a lead pipe over a knife. :)
I done this on a fire on an abandoned beach and i was stoking the embers of the fire with an old golf club and i acidentily touched the molten lead with the wet golf club and the lead exploded and went all over me but i was extremely luck that it didnt touch me it only went on my cloths thank gos i was left unscaved :D
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Concrete only weighs about 150 pounds for each cubic foot. Lead is about 650 pounds / cubic foot, so you can get a much lower center of gravity by concentrating the weight in the sailboat's limited keel space. Fishing boats don't have keels like sailboats and don't care as much about a low CG because they dont have sails either, and concrete is cheap so for a fishing boat concrete is the best choice, and for a sailboat, lead is the best choice.
Came across your newer ROV vids like 2 months ago. Gotto say Im kinda pissed offt that you have so many videos though....I cant stop freaking watching this stuff!! Love what you and your lady are doing, and good luck and congrats on all the projects past/projects to come from across the pond here in England
Thanks. Glad your enjoying them. We'll hopefully be pouring that 15 tons of lead into our keels this winter.
Hi Doug, hey I FINALLY have a bit of time to start binge watching your many good video's! This one re. smelting your lead is terrific! Very well organised and so simple (when you know how) hey!
Thank you sir for all that have done and are doing AND for so many other people too! The best of luck and health to you! : )
SY Mistress
Very cool. That is an ingenious setup. All that lead is making me drool. You are a lucky man. One sailboat ballast could supply you with bullets for several years.
Absolutely. Apropos and hypnotic as the smoke and the liquid lead. That lead rig is fantastic too. It was good to see and I bet you could even do aluminum with a shorter spout or using the tipping to pour into a trough. Very cool.
My eighty-year old sailboat has 3000 of external lead ballast and there are cracks were the 5/8" bronze keel bolts connect. This ballast was probably once melted in an iron bathtub and that's what I've been thinking of redoing. Your warning about moister have me concerned about the sand mold I would need to make within a box. I'd better warm it up good before pouring.
Thanks for the time you two took to share the techniques.
Thanks! Yep, it has worked well for us. Melted 30,000 pounds of lead wheel weights over a three year period. So glad that's done.
the filming is very professional on the new videos, and the higher resolution really helps a lot!
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GREAT VIDEO! That really helped me understand how to obtain and melt down lead. Im making lead weights for a submarine me and my friends are constructing. One question though, are there any harmful vapors that are produced in the melting process?
Inspiring! I loved the musical interlude :)
Holy cow thats quite the system watched both works good old propane tank what do you have for keeping the clasps from going down the pipe ?
Man im glad yall got better cameras
Thanks, meocats! Doug is doing a bang-up job on editing and the new camera's resolution can go to HD. Glad you've enjoyed watching. :)
@1990suzuki Sorry. This lead is for our sailboat. It is not for sale.
We hit up almost every tire store in Tulsa. Most of the big chains like Sams, Walmart, and FireStone have their own collection programs. The cheap tire stores will reuse old lead weights. You've got to find the stores that are locally owned and sell quality. For us in Tulsa, that is Robinson Tire. It took several attempts but their 7 stores make up most of our business. We pay 17 cents a pound to the owner, and leave a bag of candy for the tire guys. That bag of candy is very important!
lol here great method and valueable info thanks /only question I have is arent alot of those weights made of zinc ? so its a mixture ??
Melting lead at home ...in industrial quantities!
I like the turning pipe "trick".
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Now that's how to "get the lead out" Nicely done....
Thanks, Fred!
Can you make a video on how you built your molds I like them very much
I hope you are spot on for the calc...
@Manicouagan7iles Good advice.
I just noticed your cover (hat). Shouldn’t it say “NAVY”. I mean after all it is a boat you’re building lol!! Sorry had to 😉. Former Navy here and always a Texan! But I started way into the build and after 2 shows decides I wanted to start from the beginning. Good show mate! Good show.
Lead is dangerous but it's boiling point is over 3000F so vapors are not a huge issue. However I keep the fire pit free of lead. Avoid breathing the dust from the buckets of wheel weights. Always keep children and young ladies away. Stay out of food preparation areas. Don't eat or drink until you have showered. Wash your cloths separate from the family's. When your done for good, dig up the top soil and haul it to the dump. --Doug
I know this was some time ago, but what were they charging you for the old wheel weights at the tire stores? Also, do you melt down the ingots and pour in the ballast, or throw in the ingots loose? (I'm probably showing my ignorance with that question)
+J DeWitt DIY 17 cents a pound. 21 cents with the cost of the candy to bribe the workers, and 2 cents for gas. So about 23 cents a pound. And most of it will get melted down again.
Oh how far things have come.
are you on a cast bullet forum on fb?
Lead vapors are only a problem is you exceed the vapor point around (3000F) Just melt the lead, and don't get it much hotter than it's melting point of 620F. A wood fire that takes hours to heat up lead is safer than something like a cutting torch that quickly melts the lead and then could quickly raise the temperature on past the vapor point around 3000F. My goal is die an exciting death. Lead poisoning is not on the list. :)
will your design work for aluminium
So I'm sitting here with the volume down watching this for a good 2 minutes before I realized I was watching a 10 year old sv seeker video! Good stuff! I'll have to check out more of your older videos.
Sorry for that video quality. Cameras have sure gotten better.
@@SVSeeker hahaha...you're not kidding! I've been watching a lot of lead melting videos lately and I've been subscribed to your channel for about a year now. It was actually a really awesome moment when I went from "wow, that guys lead melting setup is really different than anything else I've ever seen" to "HOLY SHIT THATS DOUG FROM SV SEEKER!"
The RUclips rabbit hole came full circle for me today.
BTW, I really enjoy your videos and can't wait to see Seeker on the water!
Tire stores. We're making a regular run today.
@sociopathpsych If you make a routine of it and you can cancel you membership to the gym. :) Most of the big chains have their own recycling programs. You can skip, WallMart, Sams, Firestone, Hibdon, etc.
You are awesome 🙂🙂🙂 I was looking this crucible
Glad it helped.
Nice little contraption...
How recent have you gone out to get lead? I'm in Wichita Kansas and I have yet to find a tire biz with any lead weights...
About 5 years ago now. Don't bother with the national chains.
@MrJamesconn They are made from steel U channel. Three pieces parallel, and two more pieces for end caps, all welded together.
Love this
An old stainless mixing bowl with holes punched in it is upside down over the drain.
Mainly from tire stores. See submarineboat. com, Metal Working, Working with Lead
Mainly I'm too lazy. But the clips, valve stems, lug nuts, occasional brake pad and the other remaining scrap all have small bits of lead clinging to them. The scrap yard would class is as "mixed metals" and only pay $18 to $30 a ton.
SV seeker, Thanks,merci, y gracias saludo a toda la familia.....
can you use lead as a knife?
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No, you don't. The vapor point for lead is 1300F. Dont get it that hot and your fine. That's why wood is such a good source for the heat.
Hi I want to give how to make lead idea of put in rope of net and mold sinker
I got here late where do you get all that lead???
+Scott Giblin Car wheel balance weights.
Oh cool that works .
Me too.
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all that steel is money, well, pennies...but it does add up
Are you still get lead from the same places ?
We're done. We collected 15 ton over 2 1/2 years.
SV Seeker WOW !!!!
how are you going to get all that lead in to the boat? like all of your video never saw a person or persons build a steel boat.
+Ronald Allsbury We'll load it with the cranes, melt it down inside the cargo hold and pour it into the keels. About 600 pounds at a time I think.
If each mold contains 3 ingots and you have two of them, 4 pours with both molds equals 24 ingots
6X4=24
yeah true
hey man good job, doesnt lead smelting give off toxic fumes. regards from michael
Keep the temps below 900F and your fine. Follow the other rules, no children, pregnant women, eating, drinking, especially smoking around it and creating dust, etc. It's all common sense. Pretend it's raw sewage.
u surely need to look into better protection for your lungs working with lead.living to be 90 plus is everyones goal in life.fantastic video on the other hand.thank you
Why not just dump the tire weights into the keel and the dump some hot lead on top? So you wouldn't need to melt so many....
Also, why not just melt the tire weights when your going to pour them into the keel? Seems you have to waste money melting them twice... I hope you don't mind my question. Awesome project!
+leahdin You could not get molten lead at low temps, which is where you want to keep it, to flow very far through cold weights or ingots. You could melt them directly from wheel weight and pour the lead in. But you'll need dump and haul all of the hot steel back out. And would have needed a couple of hundred 5 gal buckets to store them in over that past 6 years. :) And the wood did not cost anything, and it only takes $160 in propane to melt 10 tons of ingots. I like cheap. But I'm not that cheap.
Ok, I knew there must be a good reason for that, I really appreciate your answer! Can't wait to see you get it afloat!
Nice rig.
Why don't you take the steel leftovers to a scrap yard?
Why don't you drop the ingots into a vat off water instead of spraying it
Much too soft. Also poisonous, but I suppose if you were killing someone with it, that would be a moot point. Personally I'd choose a lead pipe over a knife. :)
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Seems like alot of work when you could just use concrete for balast, 90% of all fishboats use concrete
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I done this on a fire on an abandoned beach and i was stoking the embers of the fire with an old golf club and i acidentily touched the molten lead with the wet golf club and the lead exploded and went all over me but i was extremely luck that it didnt touch me it only went on my cloths thank gos i was left unscaved :D