P.O.V.: Absolutely Positive - PBS (6/18/1991)
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I have two gay brothers; the fear they lived in during that time was palpable. Their friends, one by one, year after year after year. The loss was catastrophic. Thank God in heaven I still have my precious brothers. I am eternally grateful. God Bless those who did not make it.
Delmar died in 1997. Margie died in 2002. Juan died in 1993. Mary died in 1996. Alice died in 2009. Doris died in 1996. Her son Jared died in 1992. Marlon died in 1994. Peter Adair (the director) died in 1996. Peter Canavan died in 1996. Gregg is alive. Johnnie is alive. Eric is alive. I assume Beverly is alive as she didn't contract the virus. Mary's daughter is alive and well with a beautiful family.
Awww. Thank you for this update🙏🏾
THANKSSSSSSS FOR THIS INFO
I cant put names with the faces….who‘s who?
@@Golliwog72 look at the documentary again & pay attention when their names are mentioned.
@Golliwog72 Delmar and Margie are the married couple who got it from Delmar getting a transfusion and passing it to Margie. Peter Canavan is the nurse who talks to his patient about Apple sauce. Mary Corwin is the red headed mother who rides the roller coaster. Johnnie is the Asian gentleman who is nervous a out telling his friends and family about his status. Doris is the African American mother whose husband left her and her son, Jared. Alice is the Hispanic woman who grew up in Brooklyn and got HIV through IV drug use. Gregg is the Caucasian gentleman in the blue shirt with lighter brown hair who talks about being a non promiscuous gay man. Eric is the Caucasian gentleman in the green shirt who grew up on a chicken farm and lost his lover, Scott, to AIDS. Juan is the Hispanic gentleman who is married to Beverly and has a baby girl named Crystal. Marlon is the African American gentleman who got his diagnosis after suffering kidney failure in Germany. Peter Adair is the blonde director.
OMG I saw this on tv back in 91"/92" when I was about 20! It scared me, especially since I lived in San Francisco at this time. I used to catch a bus in front of an AIDS clinic and I remember seeing young people in their 20's walking with a cane or looking very sickly. You could really tell back then. It changed my whole life. Today, I'm a healthy (negative) 50 yr old female. I never lived a promiscuous life. No drinking, no drugs. I know you could do all the right things and still get it, but I did make a conscious effort to avoid risky situations and worked on prevention. I credit that inpart to documentaries like this.
At that time I was only five years younger than you and I mourned Freddie Mercury very much.
Then I did the right thing and didn't want to live promiscuously, because Queen's last music video was a shocker for me at the time.
I lived in a huge Village community at that time and there were a lot of teenagers
from 14 to 17/18 years old who were very sexually active. These stupid things really thought AIDS only existed in San Francisco,
Los Angeles, New York or London.
I didn't want to have anything to do with these b**bo and hussy from this huge Village community.
One has only one life and one health.
God bless you sister 🙏
Avoiding the risky situations was/is key. Too many people took took many chances
I am straight and gave up having sex because of aids. Wish I was never born because life is a joke.
Well good thing you watched stuff like this. It probably saved your life by you being more cautious.. I always been interested in our bodies and disease always reading anything and everything when it comes to it. I read do much on Aids/HIV and watched this as well and it helped me to be more cautious. Your right it still can happen it’s not 100% guarantee. People even got HIV from hospitals back in the day and that’s the saddest of them all and children ..
Gregg cassin is still alive today and looks damn good!!!!!! And I love to see it!!!!
I have an aunt here in South Africa 🇿🇦 who was diagnosed in 1984, to this day she is still living and has never gotten sick from anything related to her status, she is a wonder. Another wonder is my brother, whose wife was diagnosed in 2008, but was suspected to have gotten it in 1995, they’ve been married for forty years, with 2 biological kids, never used protection until her diagnosis is 2008, she died from it 2 years later as it was already AIDS when it was caused and had developed cancer from it. My brother and the kids never contracted and we have called it divine protection!!!
Amen!!! God bless them all!!
the guy in the green shirt from 5min8sec is Eric L Sawyer, he is alive today.
and the guy in the blue shirt too - Greg Cassin.
Hi Eric. I hope you’re well
@@Uzezzi_ hi Greg. I hope you’re well
Never read these comments before. Freddie Mercury died of AIDS in 1991. His story broke 💔 my heart. QUEEN was an astonishing band. Miss the music 😢
So sad
I'm a massive Queen fan as you can tell by my pro pic. So many people like Freddie died too young due to the then-deadly virus, AIDS.
Freddy would’ve still been alive today. Has he been more protected and had he been more intelligent and aware of his surroundings and not sleeping around with different people without using protection especially other men it’s common sense it’s something that’s avoidable. We need to stop feeling bad for people that put themselves in this position.
@@Shegosushimias if he went out and tried to get HIV. You are ignorant. Blaming people for their disease states is just an excuse for losers to validate their hate.
I was 22 years old when this was filmed when I saw it it scared me so much I wouldn’t go out with anyone
Beautiful. Peter Adair and all his guests will be remembered. Each individual had a very interesting story. Ive read that three survived to date. I hope they look back on occasion at this beautiful contribution that came from such a very sad time.
I worked in the heart of the gay community back in 1991-92 at the post office. It was a very tense time for many of my co-workers. it seemed that every week one of them would call in an absence that would become long term. Made me very sad as these folks were decent people who were brought down in the prime of their lives..
Being a gay man that lived through the AIDS period in the uk, I know the feeling could I be the next, I remember going to 13 funerals in one year, it made me so nervous, as I only came out a couple of years before, but I will never forget those people that were lost. ❤️🏳️🌈🇬🇧🙏
There should be more video like this for today’s youth
So heartbreaking. In 1991 when this was filmed there were very few viable treatments for hiv positive/aids patients. Im sure most of the people in this documentary died before the cocktail treatments became available in 96/97. Back in 91 people with hiv could be fine one day and a week later striken with pneumonia and die.
Dont even.
I say this alll the time my aunt was unfortunately a victim to aids and she passed in 94 missed the cocktail by a yr
Not all people died. Many were on Azt and many also got involved in Clinical trials. Some may have lived to 1995,1999 or died. The virus affects each individual differently. Some people stayed HIV + and millions more accelerated to ARC then on to full blown AIDS. There are thousands of Long term survivor's from the 1980's and 1990's. Again they are a special segment and they didn't give up like others..who just gave up. Just like Cancer..you are your own best advocate. Surgery, Chemotherapy and Radiation.. ..
@@gigigiseleworldNot all who died back then "gave up". Many, most tried fighting with all they had until they couldn't fight anymore. Your body isn't just moving from willpower alone, and willpower sometimes isn't enough.
@@LoagunDon't even what?
I vaguely remember watching this as a 10 year old. I was so terrified having grown up thru the evolution of HIV and Aids.
To my mind, there was a time in this crisis where the initial reactions of shock and compassion began to wear thin, and more stigma began to set in. These people were brave to stand up and show up and be counted.
My thing is, why would a venereal disease be so shocking especially if a gay man is penetrating another gay man in the anus it’s not shocking at all we’re not stupid we’re very intelligent human beings, and sometimes people just are in denial, and do not want to, except the fact that they are the ones that caused their parts to fall off. This is not a shocking disease it’s not a shocking infection. This is some thing that was supposed to happen because of the strength of men being too prideful, and having sex with other men, it’s very simple. God did not create a world were men were supposed to have sex with other men. It was supposed to be men and women. Yeah, man always turn things into a joke. This is why many people sad to say die back then, because they were not using protection, and they were not taking care of their bodies, nor were they going to go get check ups. This was a very avoidable venereal disease. .
Very brave human beings, each and everyone of you. What away to give back. Thank you and God Bless you and yours....
Eric Sawyer is still alive and looks well.. looks great!!! I'm so so happy some of them made it out the other side.. was able to make it here with us... thankful to the gay community if it weren't for their fight... I don't think medicine would be as advanced as it is .. they didn't stop aids but they damn sure stopped ppl from dying if caught early...taking medication... They should always get the credit for that fight and baby they fought!!!!
so right. there were some profound changes in healthcare and drug development that just seem common now but we’re innovated by the activists from this era.
Omg. What a great program. Bravo to all who put effort into these important subjects.
My heart breaks for all of them. 💔💔
The guy in green shirt is too handsome 😍
Yes indeed !
This doc. is important. Educational. All of the people interviewed are Warriors and Saints❤
Thank you for posting this.
There was a documentary on AIDS similar to this but it was about stories of four people with HIV that did not respond well to new cocktail HIV drugs in the late 1990s.
What was the name of the documentary???
I wish there was a way to know how they all turned out. My heart goes out to them 😥♥️
I just googled that exact same question
See my new comment. I know what happened to all of them.
@@Cutie.pie.love.1 where is your comment I just watched it today
@@Cutie.pie.love.1do you know the name of the blond catholic guy?
@@Pinash1970 Delmar died in 1997. Margie died in 2002. Juan died in 1993. Mary died in 1996. Alice died in 2009. Doris died in 1996. Her son Jared died in 1992. Marlon died in 1994. Peter Adair (the director) died in 1996. Peter Canavan died in 1996. Gregg is alive. Johnnie is alive. Eric is alive. I assume Beverly is alive as she didn't contract the virus. Mary's daughter is alive and well with a beautiful family.
31:49 I love him...he was absolutely a doll
Any news on Juan and the older married couple? Is the young Asian guy still around? I really hope they are and survived until the cocktail got into circulation
Eric, Gregg and Johnnie (who is the young Asian man) still live and are well. The rest passed away a long time ago. Juan was the first of the group to die.
Such a wonderful share. Thank you! May God Bless them all
Are there copies of the research interviews done on the other 100+ individuals?
Jason Lease (Greenfield, In)
1970-2016
He helped my theatre class out with an HIV play in 1998. He was always nice to us and fun to be around. Today, I found out he died in 2016. I thought he was still alive. 😢 RIP
Me n my family use to watch POV every summer....I was about a few months old when this one aired......😂
Please release more documentaries like this ❤❤❤❤❤
If you press on their channel they have tons of videos about hiv and aids in the 80s and 90s. It's a really good channel, a piece of history albeit sad history.
@@shimmer8289 Thanks ❤️❤️
Is it possible to try to improve the sound on this Documentary, please? I do realise that may not be possible, due to the age of the Film.
Back there make right choices or live wildly was the difference between life or death. So many good people gone, even now i can feel same fear just for think about it.
I love all these old AIDs docs they very educational and entertaining. thank god I don't live a life were I could get this disease.
Get help if you find this entertaining
Has nothing to do with you living in a time. Were you could get the infection again people are very incompetent. It has something to do with the fact of sleeping with another man and having sexual intercourse with another man that’s where the disease came from. it is passed on genetically to women through sex with a man women cannot pass on. This disease is very slim because women don’t carry the virus. Men carry the virus so when you have sex with other men, this is what the virus causes. It’s common sense yet. People are in denial because they want to be free and gay. This is why the Bible says that being gay is an abomination. Yet men are too prideful as always this is why your parts are falling off.
@@ShegosushimiBullshit!
What is so scary is that most if not all these people look pretty well. And yet all of them has something that would most probably kill them.
Exactly, like that’s exactly what I’ve been stating in the comments like it’s disturbing and it’s a bit disgusting that some of these people did not take the time to go get checked out sooner than later a lot of them decided to wait until the disease spread to the point of no return I mean your kidneys are falling out there’s no way that you don’t have kidney pain there’s no way that you’re not that you’re not experiencing exhaustion, there’s no way that you’re not experiencing fatigue, there’s no way that you’re not experiencing blood in your bowels, there’s no way they are not experiencing nausea, there’s no room for the excuse of not going to go get checks up there’s no fucking room for the excuses and I’m tired of people making excuses for people that have a venereal disease that they’ve cause upon themselves, and for the people that did not cause it upon themselves may they rest in peace because majority of the time women can’t even get this disease has passed on by men because men are nasty, and men are too prideful to go get checked up.
Rip Doris
This was such a death sentence back then. I wish they had found these drugs in the early days but there was not enough funding and research so sad :(((
Not enough science technology then don't blame government's still no cure for the common cold or corona virus
just hoping that people profiled in this movie lived to catch the lifeboat of HAART and survived.
That one girl was very lucky that her and her baby didn't get it...
It’s not called look it’s called by the grace of God she was in her child was anointed because God knew that she did not partake in any type of sexual activity two calls herself to get that is that disease, I am a firm believer that God will only give you what you put out into the energy and what you put out into the world so if you’re out here sleeping around being promiscuous, do not expect not to get a venereal disease it’s common sense. People are not stupid it’s not rocket science. People need to close their legs and use their actual head then rather thinking with her body parts and that’s just what it is be responsible or deal with a lifelong disease and have people feel bad for you.
Luck*!
I'd love to visit that time and tell them how medicine will advance in the coming 30 years. I'm sure it would be a relief for them.
Might be a relief to some, but when your that young & dying you want change now,
30 years your not looking that far ahead,
I had an uncle who was a hemophiliac (think that's the correct spelling) & got the virus through a blood transfusion. This was in Australia the blood was contaminated all around the western world. Uncle Steve passed away in 1992
he fathered three children before he found out he was positive whilst he was positive. All children were born fine & healthy and are doing well in there adult years.
Thankyou
Except that they would still die. :/
@@nadiraslam5982
Yes, but imagine having a time traveler from the 23rd century pop up in front of you out of nowhere. He tells you that humanity will build a working warp drive in the 22nd century. You know you'll be dead by then but you would still be happy for future generations, wouldn't you?
@@epaminon6196 yeah but one is essentially a functional cure for a disease that will kill you that you know you can’t get. You will still die a horrid death. and the other one is a warp drive. Apples to oranges.
@@epaminon6196 ķ!lol? ..?ĺ
The majority of people I have met during my 62 years have died slowly from invasive pathogens and starvation brought about by something most of us were too !?ashamed!? to talk about: AIDS. Then most of my "replacement" friends and lovers kept dying again and again while bravely, and unsuccessfully, trialing toxic meds. I'm not able to watch videos like this about the Great Culling due to PTSD and other associated mental health issues, but I am grateful to those that do create, participate, and archive the AIDS pandemic experiences. Viewing the AIDS Memorial Quilt panels on the National Mall during the 1987 March on Washington (during the years our US President refused to say the word "AIDS," changed my life forever.
Back in '91 i was 30 and had very risky sex in the early 80s, by mid '80s i was worried tested neg so far met people i knew who were ill andyes died if you were a young adult you would understand the aids can infect straight, gay or iv drug users very scary times, yes there is treatment now but still cure yet
The amount of stigmatisation in these comments is unbelievable in 2023!!!
For real,
A lady was saying she wouldn’t share utensils when it has been proven that it’s a blood borne and sexually transmitted virus
Girl shut up, like what are you talking about? This is a venereal, nasty, infectious disease stop being stupid and use your brain. This is a disease that is very preventable. All you have to do is use protection and stop sleeping around with random individuals and if you choose to sleep around with people, then go get your check ups maybe once or twice a month instead of getting them once every blue moon and then blaming God or blaming Satan for your own poor decisions, get it together it’s 2023 exactly how you said but yet you’re still not comprehending that this is a decision that they chose to make Asa why they have a lifelong penalty you don’t know if these people were being unfaithful to their partners I’m sure if your husband or your spell cheated on you and came back and gave you a HIV or venereal disease you would have a different outlook, so please be quiet.
Yes! Just make me sick!!!!!
Can we get an update on the people in this video?
What ever happened to these victims of HIV? This was made in 1991 and the "lifeboat" of better treatment became available in 1996.
Some have passed away. Marlon Riggs, the black gay man, died in 1994
I'm assuming they died because this is before the medication
@@rojamilleroverdude at 7:48 is still alive. He made it to that life boat.
@Mr.Majestic77 so mercifully not ALL from this are gone?
Gregg Johnny and Eric survived the rest sadly died a long time ago.
I pray that every wife and husband find themselves in healthy relationships with loving kids who support each other.
Just Look what our society has done to these individuals. m so disgusted at this world and the ones who are running it . I cant watch this anymore. i want to cry
All self inflicted
@@perfect1035 true,,, but alittle compassion don’t hurt.
What s worse is that people are bringing babies to this hell on earth living. No matter if you are a king or a beggar on the street, every one will go through a wringer on this earth. People should be very careful about bringing babies to this world.
This has nothing to do with society sweetheart. If you think this has to do with society, you need to do further research on taking responsibility and holding ourselves accountable for the actions and choices that we decide to make. I do not feel bad for majority of these people on this phone, because at the end of the day majority of them cause this upon themselves again, a lot of people fail to understand the concept that this was a choice that they made to sleep with multiple individuals without using protection. This was a choice you make the choice with your body when you lay down just like you made the choice to comment on here you had a choice to come, and you had a choice not to, you chose to comments what’s the difference between them and the decision that they made?
Live your life be grateful that you don’t have the disease ! ❤
Did any of these people survive? Peter Adair the Director died from complications from AIDS in 1996. So sad.😢
Greg Johnny and Eric survived.
I wonder how many of those people from this program are still living.
Many? 3 are many? Okay…
Gregg Johnny and Eric survived.
Eric L Sawyer AKA The guy in green is so handsome. He still is today, white hair suits him like Anderson Cooper.
hard to hear the narration because the music is so loud!!!!
Walter is doing well Joseph
That young guy with the Jean jacket and black turtle neck look likes Taylor Luthner from twilight who played Jacob the werewolf.
He was absolutely gorgeous. Hope he survived long enough to receive meds in mid 1990s.
If anyone knows if some of these participants have survived? Especially since it was so close to 96/97 when the cocktail was available
From what i can find 3 of the 11 are still around but can’t find out who
I hope they are all alive and happy.
@@nesetans1407 unfortunately almost all of them are gone 😢
@@JL0ndon Wow....so sad
@@JL0ndon which ones??
I read an update. Only three of the people interviewed are still alive.
That's so sad. Thank the lord 3 of them are still alive!
OMG, was that Mary and her daughter Shioban, Bernal Heights?
her daughters name is Sinead
@@waltergregory779 how are they doing ?
Music is too loud......
I would love to see where are they now and what type of treatments they received at the time.
I was an RN during this time period. There were no real treatments for HIV itself except AZT which on its own didn't help much and usually stopped working completely after about 12 months. Medical management consisted of treating symptoms and the various opportunistic infections. Eg: pentamadine for pneumocystis, nystatin for candida, foscarnet for CMV infections, chemotherapy for kaposis sarcoma was discovered to be counterproductive but radiotherapy was used where possible.
I can confirm that two individuals in this documentary did make it and are still alive. Gregg Cassin and Eric L. Sawyerr.
@@Uzezzi_ which one is Greg cassein??
@@Uzezzi_ thank you ❤️ I’m glad they were able to survive this !
@@GTO20122012 Me too!
Would like to know if they all survived
Most were dead within a few years
Gregg Johnny and Eric survived.
Remember those old photo booths ?These people seemed like good souls even though i don't agree with their sins .
Surprised they showed her daughter’s identity. I wonder how she’s doing now? Is her mom still alive?
Hope these people are still alive but I suspect some or most or all are not alive.
Greg……..omg……. I’d love to see you, mimi
So the black guy Marlon, Doris and her son Jared all passed.💕
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❤❤❤❤
I hope all of them made it. Like the black lady, she is strong
Most died in the early 1990's
Is that Marlon Riggs?
Yes
@@jameswillett7186 how is marlon?
@@josephclarke645 HE PASSED AWAY IN 94 OR 95
@@1009BABYGRL that is really sad. Such a loss 😢
I wonder if Jeffrey D. had this ? Since he took anyone home and not only relations but consumed them.
who is still alive now does anyone know ?
johnnie the young Asian boy is alive and well. He’s about 51 years old now.
Non of them
@@pjobkkhe looks like Taylor luthner the actor from twilight movie that played Jacob the werewolf that was in love with Bella
@@pjobkkSo is Eric, the handsome guy in the green shirt. And one more person, don't know who that is
Yes!!!
Yesterdays problem
"I wasn't crying because I was afraid": He wasn't just suffering from AIDS he was suffering under bovarysme
💔😪
I won’t discriminate against someone who has aids; BUT, I won’t be sharing a drink or drinking glass with them. This is why I will not enter into a relationship unless WE BOTH GO AND GET TESTED TOGETHER. I’m of the belief that positive ppl should date and marry other positive ppl. I don’t care abt one being undetectable. It’s sad but it’s something we must certainly come to terms with.
Why won’t you share a drink with them?
I can’t believe with all the evidence of transmission, you choose to be ignorant
What a shame!
@@stiltongeronimo you’re what’s wrong with society. I guess with all the evidence that says if they’re undetectable you can go unprotected with them too right. If my opinion makes me ignorant. So be it. It’s like people can voice their opinion in today’s society. LOSER
@@mrsonpointno !
You said that you wouldn’t share utensils with them
Please give me one scientific explanation why so?
It has been disproven countless times but people like you still bear ignorant views about this disease
I guess who’s the LOSER
😒
@@mrsonpoint
“I don’t discriminate”
Then proceeds to discriminate!
People like you were the reason why this virus was treated with fear and not with sense!
@@mrsonpointI was never saying that , girl!
Please be serious!
its a Sin to live this life style .....i love everyone and i dont hate anyone but pople choise to live this life and am just shareing the truth from the bible says for all have sin even i was living that way till i gave my life toi christ and for pople that reject God they will find them selfs in hell for ever never to scape and on judment day everyone in hell will be cast into the lake of fire for today is the day of salvation as long we live and breath there is still hope for what Jesus did on the cross
If you mean homosexuality, it is not a "lifestyle" just as heterosexuality isn't. It had been known to mankind (esp. heterosexual ones) that syphilis is passed on during sex since ancient times, they never thought of a form of safer intercouse for centuries, that's why we have the large numbers of drug resistant infections we have have today. And in terms of Jesus, well he died for all of humanity's sins, didn't he? You can't start a sentence with "I love anyone" but then continue with a statement of bigotry & keep going with "well, it's all your lifestyle's fault, this is god's punishment for your wrong life & I'm stating the only right way to live." I hope you see what's the problem here. It's a virus that evolved from apes, it's what viruses do since the dawn of time, a big part of our human DNA is made of integrated ones. Animals can get viral infections, even bacteria. Do they live a "wrong lifestyle"? We are all humans & a part of life on this planet, & so are (unfortunately sometimes) viruses for all kinds of life, no punishment in that, period.
Who’s that Hispanic guy?
Is he gay? (I find him attractive)
See your here again I knew it you must be infected as this point smh. People like you who Iive on to lie.
I don't think he is gay his wife died from Aids she was a drug user at one time, he is cute
I do sympathize with all the infected individuals and I have met some great guy people ,but,back in a day,there was a lot of irresponsibility amongst the gay community,as well as the drug users.
I knew a "but" was coming along. predictable.
@@griff404 ???I am stating the facts.
@@griff404
They were very responsible. They are in no way responsible for the way it spread. Their behavior was perfect. It was someone else’s fault. They were in no way responsible for their own actions. Everyone should aspire to be just like them…..is that better? Is that what you wanted to hear? Glad I could help.
@@missyc5627 Those were different times. For years within the pandemic people didn't even have the full picture of what was really going on. And for years the government didn't care enough. The gay community worked really hard to get the message out there, to fight for state funding, research and so on.
They didn’t know it was coming. The gay sexual revolution was in the ‘70’s. It exploded like a power keg because they had been forced into a closet for decades. Now, undoubtedly , this is when the epidemic started spreading, but again - they didn’t even know it was there. By the time they did, it was too late, but after people began being educated, the rates of infection in the gay community went down while heterosexual cases skyrocketed.
RIP, brother. I hope you’re watching down and know that Trump is the laughing stock of the planet. You lived your life authentically and with dignity. He will only be remembered as a crook, a liar, a narcissistic sociopath, and a fraud.
You lived your life to the fullest. ❤
Yeah, because Trump is responsible for these people getting AIDS 🙄 Trump Derangement Syndrome is still running strong I see. Typical democrat attitude. Blame someone else for your own negligent behavior
Calm down… you sound unhinged! To have that much hate for someone you never meet and didn’t do anything to you personally is insane. I disagree with Biden politics but don’t go on a rampage about him. I thought you people claim to be the party of tolerance?
It’s crazy the people who claim to hate Trump are STILL obsessed with him.
😂😂
Condolences for your loss and may your brother Rest In Peace and more importantly, you sound like your need for peace is far greater. With all due respect, your brother is in the spirit world which has nothing to do with politics. Are you going to blame Trump for him getting and dying of HIV/AIDS? That’s as illogical as your hatred. You don’t know Trump personally nor does he have anything to do with your brother and his passing. Furthermore, despite what the media tries to portray, there is no evidence of him being homophobic nor was anyone denied medical treatment for HIV under his administration. Why are you comparing two things which have nothing to do with each other? “Crook, liars, narcissistic people, sociopaths, and frauds” can be found in both political parties and can be found in both straight and gay communities.
@@Michael-di4bb because people still have TDS!
Just change your lifestyle.
Yo dummy, it’s NOT a lifestyle, it’s Orientation determined in the womb.
Exactly. And stop making excuses half these people just make excuses!