While a Beyer M88 ($500) or an M160 ($800) are very nice mics you absolutely don't need them to get a quality electric guitar sound recorded. The SM57 has been a studio standard for decades, has been the mic on the lecturn of every U.S. President for the last half a century, and it is only $99 brand new. The 5-6k bump in the 57's response isn't always a negative thing as it is actually one of the reasons why people who have access to far more expensive mics (like ones that cost thousands of dollars) also have SM57's in their mic lockers and use them regularly. The 57's 5-6k frequency bump if it is an issue in a particular case can be taken care of quite easily with subtractive eq (as can the 57's rather hefty proximity boost) because subtractive eq is easy and quite kind as opposed to boosting eq which you need to be somewhat more careful with. Other than the rather odd and clickbait preview image to this video (what is it we are supposed to STOP DOING.... holding the handle of the amp while we record???) and the implication that we should think about ditching the SM57 which still continues to be a gift to home recordists 50+ years after it's introduction there is a lot of good info is packed into this quick five minute video.
Like we said, you can totally get great sounds out of the SM57, but for people who want more options, there are lots of mics out there, and lots of techniques beyond just chucking it up in front of the speaker and calling it a day. Glad you found some of the info helpful. As far as the thumbnail and title go, we tried a more "normal" one first and nobody clicked the dang thing, so here we are *shrug* haha. Have a great one!!
I've bought other mics besides my SM-57, but I ended up returning or selling the others as for metal guitar, my SM-57 sounds the best imo. Beats the condensers I had.
I don't think modern Mexican SM57's have the quality transformer the old ones had. I'd seriously consider something like an sE V7x anyway. Check out the SPL graph. It's like a ribbon, but with the ruggedness and transient smoothing of a dynamic.
I like the idea of different amps and different microphones for each amp Been playing through multiple amps for years never thought of the microphone idea
Sound City full stack Orange half stack Then I switch to a pedal board with four multi pedal Boards out to a Peavey 6 channel PA head each board gets a channel 1 straight feed to half stack for a straight punch all blended with volume pedals Peace ✌️
Either or! If you're the kind of person who's playing a $1500 guitar through a $1500 amp head into an $800 cab, maybe you want something slightly nicer than the $100 jack-of-all-trades mic to get your $4k tone into people's ears.
@@KillerGuitarRigs fair enough 😄 I'm the kind of guy playing a beat up 3rd hand guitar that cost $250 brand new that I fixed up through a 2nd hand $350 amp 😁 I'm all for getting the right gear for the job though, and it's a great point that everyone using the same mic for 50 years is getting a bit stale. It'd be great to see some more options in a closer price range for those of who don't have a mortgage-level gear haul. I've had good luck with sennheiser 609s, but I'm not sure how different they really are, and also a heil pr30 I borrowed
When recording digitally it is fast becoming standard practice to always record a dry electric guitar track in order to "re-amp" using software amp emulation and IR speakers. Live is a different beast, although the use of Kemper/Helix type devices are breaking through most players still want amps. I would add (possibly controversially) that in my experience it's the speaker/mic combination that had the biggest influence on the overall sound.
@@BoojayDeeth I use my amp and send a signal to the FOH. That way with my sound in the P A, I don't need as much volume on stage. Each member has a P A feed in their I E M and I keep only 1 earpiece in. This system has worked well for me. So no extra mics on stage any more. And can use a smaller wattage amp.
While a Beyer M88 ($500) or an M160 ($800) are very nice mics you absolutely don't need them to get a quality electric guitar sound recorded. The SM57 has been a studio standard for decades, has been the mic on the lecturn of every U.S. President for the last half a century, and it is only $99 brand new.
The 5-6k bump in the 57's response isn't always a negative thing as it is actually one of the reasons why people who have access to far more expensive mics (like ones that cost thousands of dollars) also have SM57's in their mic lockers and use them regularly. The 57's 5-6k frequency bump if it is an issue in a particular case can be taken care of quite easily with subtractive eq (as can the 57's rather hefty proximity boost) because subtractive eq is easy and quite kind as opposed to boosting eq which you need to be somewhat more careful with.
Other than the rather odd and clickbait preview image to this video (what is it we are supposed to STOP DOING.... holding the handle of the amp while we record???) and the implication that we should think about ditching the SM57 which still continues to be a gift to home recordists 50+ years after it's introduction there is a lot of good info is packed into this quick five minute video.
Like we said, you can totally get great sounds out of the SM57, but for people who want more options, there are lots of mics out there, and lots of techniques beyond just chucking it up in front of the speaker and calling it a day. Glad you found some of the info helpful. As far as the thumbnail and title go, we tried a more "normal" one first and nobody clicked the dang thing, so here we are *shrug* haha. Have a great one!!
I've bought other mics besides my SM-57, but I ended up returning or selling the others as for metal guitar, my SM-57 sounds the best imo. Beats the condensers I had.
Hey man, when you find what works for you - run with it! If one size really did fit all, the world would be a really bland place.
In addition, you can reverse phase of one mic, use faders to blend so it sounds thin and flip phase back.Good video
Good call!
Great video! Request: when demoing sounds, please include some chords, not just single note stuff?
Good call! Will do next time - thanks for checking out the video :)
0:33 Marge Simpson lives in your head?! Awesome!
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I don't think modern Mexican SM57's have the quality transformer the old ones had. I'd seriously consider something like an sE V7x anyway. Check out the SPL graph. It's like a ribbon, but with the ruggedness and transient smoothing of a dynamic.
Nice, will have to check that out!
@@KillerGuitarRigs Granted, the bass extension could increase rumble in some situations.
I like the idea of different amps and different microphones for each amp
Been playing through multiple amps for years never thought of the microphone idea
Nice. What kind of amps do you typically combine?
Sound City full stack
Orange half stack
Then I switch to a pedal board with four multi pedal
Boards out to a Peavey 6 channel PA head each board gets a channel 1 straight feed to half stack for a straight punch all blended with volume pedals
Peace ✌️
@@kencutter1094 That's a serious rig!
That was a great set up back then now a gt-10 with looping and headphones I live in a apartment can't play my acoustics
Peace ☮️
lol OK, so instead of buying a $100 mic, the I should buy a $500 and $800 mic.
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Either or! If you're the kind of person who's playing a $1500 guitar through a $1500 amp head into an $800 cab, maybe you want something slightly nicer than the $100 jack-of-all-trades mic to get your $4k tone into people's ears.
@@KillerGuitarRigs fair enough 😄
I'm the kind of guy playing a beat up 3rd hand guitar that cost $250 brand new that I fixed up through a 2nd hand $350 amp 😁
I'm all for getting the right gear for the job though, and it's a great point that everyone using the same mic for 50 years is getting a bit stale.
It'd be great to see some more options in a closer price range for those of who don't have a mortgage-level gear haul.
I've had good luck with sennheiser 609s, but I'm not sure how different they really are, and also a heil pr30 I borrowed
Respect to ya! Love a good thrifty rig too. E609 is a nice mic too and around $100 so can't go wrong there!
@@jamiebriggs8277 You can get yourself a really good second hand condenser mic at that budget level.
Doesn't anyone use D I boxes? I mean if you want to combine different sounds seems these 2 would be best. At least in my opinion.
When recording digitally it is fast becoming standard practice to always record a dry electric guitar track in order to "re-amp" using software amp emulation and IR speakers. Live is a different beast, although the use of Kemper/Helix type devices are breaking through most players still want amps. I would add (possibly controversially) that in my experience it's the speaker/mic combination that had the biggest influence on the overall sound.
@@BoojayDeeth I use my amp and send a signal to the FOH. That way with my sound in the P A, I don't need as much volume on stage. Each member has a P A feed in their I E M and I keep only 1 earpiece in. This system has worked well for me. So no extra mics on stage any more. And can use a smaller wattage amp.
That's the sound guy's dream - the less stage volume the better.