"When I had cancer, you couldn't swallow, so you had a tube [and syringe] and used to feed yourself with that, which was very convenient actually." I am never going to complain about anything ever again.
Fabulous video. I love watching these two guys working together. I only wish they had an apprentice working under them, learning the trade. Cannot wait to see the inside of the bores.
Ivan and John, you are always "thinking outside the box", good result. In the past I've used hydraulic pressure down the spark plug hole of old motor cycle engines to free seized pistons. It works fine, a gallon of new engine oil a sparkplug to Porto power hose adapter and the Porto power pump, it gets them moving.
Molasses. There his an engine rebuilder on RUclips somewhere who drops old seized engines in a vat of molasses for a month or so. And it comes out rust free and rotating. Maybe it’s smoke & mirrors, but certainly worth a try on antique one-off engines you seem to come by like no one else. Love the channel. Except, every time I watch, I think to myself, where are the young apprentices? The vast knowledge you and John have needs to be taught to the next generation! Desperately! Even if your apprentice is a 60-year old retired enthusiast, you need, no,WE need to have you to teach others. Today. (Sorry for the lecture.)
Patience and old fashioned common sense. As was expressed earlier, experience is of paramount importance. We have endured similar issues with 80 - 100 year old motors. A great video Ivan. Thanks so much for investing the time. A shout out to John and Tanya as well. Be good. Remain safe. Wishing you a Deluxe day!
No substitute for good old commonsense and experience. Good on ya Ivan and John boy . Great to see two guys enjoying what they do so much more power to you Ivan & John 👍🇦🇺
Years ago a friend gave me a small engine, it was locked solid, rather than force it and risk damage I took a few plastic parts off and boiled the engine in water and washing up liquid. Within a few minutes of that treatment it freed up and was running. It was not a high value engine but I did not want to destroy it. In some cases people have forced pistons out of bores using a grease gun but of course you are taking a risk. Thank you for the videos, always fascinating to see what you are up to.
Its probably stuck w/old (castor based?) oil. soak with lacquer thinner. Wait, I see ya got it! Looks good, What a great motor,,Keep at it boys,,,Izzy Strong,,,,,
Ivan, a bit of cast iron sewer pipe to make a thick walled sleeve that the cylinder base slips into, to the proper length so that the rod bolts project through a bar laid across the sleeve with holes drilled in. Wind some torque onto the rod bolts then heat the cylinder. Works a treat.
Nice post Ivan .Brings back memories of my mates and I working on our cars in the 60s to keep them on the road.All the best to you and all around you 👍❤️
Big wow on getting stuff unstuck. I'm having similar adventures restoring 1917 and a 1920 Harley Davidson engines I have pieced together from all over the globe. I hope you can clean up those pistons and bores and get a wear reading before you think about buying new stuff. Very interesting. Thanks from Thailand Paul
I haven't drunk Coca Cola since a day 40 odd years ago when I saw an aircraft engine with a piston seized in a barrel un seized by the application of Coca Cola via a spark plug hole. It took the lunch hour to go from "Not Moving" to coming away with a "Shing" as it fell off at the first pull.
The most entertaining way would be to to fill a dustbin with pillows, suspend the assembly over said dustbin. Light your oxy acetylene torch, dab it out. Fill the cylinder with the torch gas, put a spark plug in with a coil and battery and press the button. Sh!t or bust.
Xylol (xylene) is a better solvent to use on vegetable oil varnish deposits evaporates much more slowly than thinners. Thinners is just mixtures of hexane , toluene and acetone - depending on what the product is supposed to thin. Another product good for vegetable oil varnish deposits is paint stripper. Oil based paints use analogues of vegetable oils - linseed oil. The reason the sump is so full of crap is because the oils predate the use of detergents to keep the solid combustion products suspended in the oil to be removed by a filter. It was fully intended that the solids settle into the sump to stay there to be removed when the engine was serviced. Much like a modern small engine in a lawn mower that uses non detergent oil.
If the part is ferrous metal you can also soak it in a strong sodium hydroxide solution. The NaOH will break down vegetable oils and turn them into soap. Don't do this to aluminium though, it dissolves in strong bases AND strong acids!
Reminds me, I got "reemed out" last Monday. Drinking a litre of the equivalent of thinners at three-thirty in the morning was not the best start to the day! ps Photo's of "up there" are available on request (It being a "new-world", the video is probably available on RUclips somewhere).
I'm sure you may have tried it, but I've had great luck with simple using automatic transmission fluid. Just get as much in the cylinder as will go and let it sit so the additives in the fluid can do what they do.
I'm reminded of the story of Pharoah Khufu asking Ivan "Ivan, he says, I've got these giant blocks I need stacked on top of each other...can you come up wit summing mate?" John fettles up a scale model of a crane and asks some fellow named Liebherr to build a full sized version...well it worked like a charm and in no time they had this pyramid built...Tanya apparently filmed it all but it was on papyrus and little Tim used it to try and put out a fire he started in London on Pudding lane...
How many of you were trying to identify the spaceframe chassis that was coming together in the background like I was. I thought maybe it was a Lotus 11 when it was on its side and covered with bits and pieces, but at the end when it was a roller it looks older and with a central seat. Anyone know what it is? As usual, a great look into Ivan's world(and now I want to build an aero-engined special even more than before)
Is that old gummy oil possibly vegetable or castorene based? I ask because I have seen old competition engines that have been left standing for years with old Castrol R in them and the oil had turned into thick gooey varnish.
In pre-1920s aircraft engines castor oil is a good bet. Back then it was the most effective engine lubricant available. The turning to goo issue is caused by exposure to oxygen from the air, over time it causes vegetable oils to polymerise. This is the basis of old-fashioned oil paints, and tung oil or linseed oil based wood finishes. What's worse is that heat and the presence of metals catalyses the reaction and causes it to speed up, so an engine is basically the ideal environment for turning vegetable oil into sludge.
I've heard you can full the cylinder with grease, and then use a grease gun to push the piston out hydraulically. You get like 5000psi out of a lever grease gun evidentally.
Use clean engine oil and small hydraulic hand pump. Fill the cylinder, make an adapter then hook it up to your hand pump, (oil gun, porta power pump), certainly does the job gently.
@@mattagnew206 I doubt it. A sparkplug can take the pressure of a boosted engine firing many thousands of times a minute for years at a time. Should be able to take going up to 5000 psi. What's the normal internal pressure for an engine?
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"When I had cancer, you couldn't swallow, so you had a tube [and syringe] and used to feed yourself with that, which was very convenient actually." I am never going to complain about anything ever again.
What a wonderful off the cuff comment. This man is my hero he can see the up side of everything, he exudses positivity.
Thank you. And agreed.@@richardmills1733
Fabulous video. I love watching these two guys working together. I only wish they had an apprentice working under them, learning the trade. Cannot wait to see the inside of the bores.
You could tell it was getting serious when John got his gloves on. Brilliant video as always. Thanks Mick
If anyone can Ivan can👍
Great video Ivan and great work from John for raising the sartorial elegance with smart new overalls
Ivan and John, you are always "thinking outside the box", good result. In the past I've used hydraulic pressure down the spark plug hole of old motor cycle engines to free seized pistons. It works fine, a gallon of new engine oil a sparkplug to Porto power hose adapter and the Porto power pump, it gets them moving.
Molasses. There his an engine rebuilder on RUclips somewhere who drops old seized engines in a vat of molasses for a month or so. And it comes out rust free and rotating. Maybe it’s smoke & mirrors, but certainly worth a try on antique one-off engines you seem to come by like no one else.
Love the channel.
Except, every time I watch, I think to myself, where are the young apprentices? The vast knowledge you and John have needs to be taught to the next generation! Desperately! Even if your apprentice is a 60-year old retired enthusiast, you need, no,WE need to have you to teach others. Today.
(Sorry for the lecture.)
Another great video.,Thanks Ivan John & Tanya.
Well done lads, great to see John in shot and mention of Tanya! Thanks!
Very likely that engine was in a race boat
Keep up the good work Ivan and Join!
JIM ❤
Patience and old fashioned common sense. As was expressed earlier, experience is of paramount importance. We have endured similar issues with 80 - 100 year old motors. A great video Ivan. Thanks so much for investing the time. A shout out to John and Tanya as well. Be good. Remain safe. Wishing you a Deluxe day!
I like your BMW 2002, looks like new. I used to have one quite a few years ago - cracking little car.
I had a '73, in white line this one. Probably my favourite of the two dozen cars I've had.
No substitute for good old commonsense and experience. Good on ya Ivan and John boy . Great to see two guys enjoying what they do so much more power to you Ivan & John 👍🇦🇺
Brilliant back to how the programs used to be ,,THANK YOU 🇬🇧
Still the best channel on RUclips. More please
Great that you got it apart and saving the engine.
Seeing how these old engines are made gives me the confidence that I could make my own.
Hiya Ivan I've come across after seeing you on Doms channel great videos your knowledge is incredible I look forward to tour visit from Dominic ❤
What a way to live life for a Motor Head! It's great to get to see your projects progress
Years ago a friend gave me a small engine, it was locked solid, rather than force it and risk damage I took a few plastic parts off and boiled the engine in water and washing up liquid. Within a few minutes of that treatment it freed up and was running. It was not a high value engine but I did not want to destroy it. In some cases people have forced pistons out of bores using a grease gun but of course you are taking a risk. Thank you for the videos, always fascinating to see what you are up to.
Saudações do Brasil-Rio Grande do Sul.
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Excellent video on an early engine.
Its probably stuck w/old (castor based?) oil. soak with lacquer thinner. Wait, I see ya got it! Looks good, What a great motor,,Keep at it boys,,,Izzy Strong,,,,,
Really love the work you do...and Ivan's words are priceless.
Ivan, a bit of cast iron sewer pipe to make a thick walled sleeve that the cylinder base slips into, to the proper length so that the rod bolts project through a bar laid across the sleeve with holes drilled in. Wind some torque onto the rod bolts then heat the cylinder. Works a treat.
Nice job getting those stuck pistions out. I need to learn some of your patience
What a great old engine! Cheers from a shed in Iowa
Fantastic project. Can't wait to follow progress.
Nice post Ivan .Brings back memories of my mates and I working on our cars in the 60s to keep them on the road.All the best to you and all around you 👍❤️
Again brilliant, thanks
It's great watching you in action doing some thing your passionate about ! from Tennessee US Micheal !:=)
Keep um coming, thank you
Big wow on getting stuff unstuck. I'm having similar adventures restoring 1917 and a 1920 Harley Davidson engines I have pieced together from all over the globe. I hope you can clean up those pistons and bores and get a wear reading before you think about buying new stuff. Very interesting. Thanks from Thailand Paul
These blokes are the real deal .
Good video. Nice result with this engine. Thank you. Always fun-and a bit smelly-separating metal parts that haven’t moved for a long time😊!
My favourite character well done Ivan you are a real inspiration
Always something interesting 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I haven't drunk Coca Cola since a day 40 odd years ago when I saw an aircraft engine with a piston seized in a barrel un seized by the application of Coca Cola via a spark plug hole. It took the lunch hour to go from "Not Moving" to coming away with a "Shing" as it fell off at the first pull.
The A team can fix anything thank you Gent's.
All you need now is the fuselage and under carriage. Make a marvellous 1920s exhibit.
Gpx
Brilliant video, great craftsmanship coupled with so much knowledge.👍
The most entertaining way would be to to fill a dustbin with pillows, suspend the assembly over said dustbin. Light your oxy acetylene torch, dab it out. Fill the cylinder with the torch gas, put a spark plug in with a coil and battery and press the button. Sh!t or bust.
It was incredible to hear it run Ivan. My ears are still ringing! Another great video of yourself and John in the workshop.
Best wishes, Dean.
Heard it run? What movie you watching?
Better than a movie.....I was lucky enough to be there!
We took the Peugeot powered by Hall and Scott engine up the hill at Brooklands at the weekend
@@suziepilkington5600 that must have been amazing Suzie. I'm glad it is running well.
Xylol (xylene) is a better solvent to use on vegetable oil varnish deposits evaporates much more slowly than thinners. Thinners is just mixtures of hexane , toluene and acetone - depending on what the product is supposed to thin. Another product good for vegetable oil varnish deposits is paint stripper. Oil based paints use analogues of vegetable oils - linseed oil.
The reason the sump is so full of crap is because the oils predate the use of detergents to keep the solid combustion products suspended in the oil to be removed by a filter. It was fully intended that the solids settle into the sump to stay there to be removed when the engine was serviced. Much like a modern small engine in a lawn mower that uses non detergent oil.
If the part is ferrous metal you can also soak it in a strong sodium hydroxide solution. The NaOH will break down vegetable oils and turn them into soap.
Don't do this to aluminium though, it dissolves in strong bases AND strong acids!
Vege bio diesel also works well to dissolve old gummy vegetable oil deposits.
Excellent.
Reminds me, I got "reemed out" last Monday. Drinking a litre of the equivalent of thinners at three-thirty in the morning was not the best start to the day! ps Photo's of "up there" are available on request (It being a "new-world", the video is probably available on RUclips somewhere).
Interesting that they used one of the rings as a piston pin retaining system.
Heated up kero and degreaser sat the offending block in and left it stew for awhile .had a good result
i love this channel 🙂
What?
Young John has become Old John.
How did that happen?
What do you think of that, John?
gary in japan.
I'm sure you may have tried it, but I've had great luck with simple using automatic transmission fluid. Just get as much in the cylinder as will go and let it sit so the additives in the fluid can do what they do.
I'm reminded of the story of Pharoah Khufu asking Ivan "Ivan, he says, I've got these giant blocks I need stacked on top of each other...can you come up wit summing mate?" John fettles up a scale model of a crane and asks some fellow named Liebherr to build a full sized version...well it worked like a charm and in no time they had this pyramid built...Tanya apparently filmed it all but it was on papyrus and little Tim used it to try and put out a fire he started in London on Pudding lane...
Thanks Straight Ahead✌😎
That should help your Atco mow & roll the lawn . . . the moles will also get a migraine & leave : )
How awful early lube oil and grease were! It is a miracle engines lasted beyond first drive around the park. 👀
How about a pressure washer connected in the sparkplug hole?
How many of you were trying to identify the spaceframe chassis that was coming together in the background like I was. I thought maybe it was a Lotus 11 when it was on its side and covered with bits and pieces, but at the end when it was a roller it looks older and with a central seat. Anyone know what it is?
As usual, a great look into Ivan's world(and now I want to build an aero-engined special even more than before)
I too was looking hard at it lol
@Billiedutton are you sure, it doesn't look like the pretty faithful 7 replica I built from scratch.
@@Billiedutton I believe you. Doesn't Ivan have, or used to have, an early 7 with a Climax and a DeDion rear axle?
@@Billiedutton That's such a fantastic car, seeing it in Classic and Sportscar magazine is what made me build my own replica
@Billiedutton As a Dutton you might have a better shot at that than me. Tell Ivan to get it out and let you have drive, and not hog all the fun
Nice one fellas 🤙
So what you're saying is;it'll be ready to make any vehicle fly in no time..? Thank you for the tips on removing the stuck pistons.
Nice vid Ivan. What plane would this engine have been in?
Given the bore size and the week looking crank I’ll be interested in the result if you increase the compression ration
how about Dry ice in the place of the water. should have watched to the end Never mind
Is that old gummy oil possibly vegetable or castorene based? I ask because I have seen old competition engines that have been left standing for years with old Castrol R in them and the oil had turned into thick gooey varnish.
In pre-1920s aircraft engines castor oil is a good bet. Back then it was the most effective engine lubricant available.
The turning to goo issue is caused by exposure to oxygen from the air, over time it causes vegetable oils to polymerise. This is the basis of old-fashioned oil paints, and tung oil or linseed oil based wood finishes. What's worse is that heat and the presence of metals catalyses the reaction and causes it to speed up, so an engine is basically the ideal environment for turning vegetable oil into sludge.
Would compressed air help through the plug hole?
Could have put the bar under the Crain legs 🙈🙈🙈🙈😜🥳😂😂😂😂
If that is a Hall-Scott engine it may have been used in a blimp. They were not overly successful in aeroplanes.
Fill the clinder with grees then use a grees gun
You would need Shed load of grease 2.5 litre a cylinder at guess.
I've heard you can full the cylinder with grease, and then use a grease gun to push the piston out hydraulically. You get like 5000psi out of a lever grease gun evidentally.
I thought about that too. It couldn't resist that, and it would be fairly stress free, but messy.
Use clean engine oil and small hydraulic hand pump. Fill the cylinder, make an adapter then hook it up to your hand pump, (oil gun, porta power pump), certainly does the job gently.
@@chrisjohnson4165 Messy is RUclips gold!
Is there a danger of stripping the spark plug threads with this method? Clever tho!
@@mattagnew206 I doubt it. A sparkplug can take the pressure of a boosted engine firing many thousands of times a minute for years at a time. Should be able to take going up to 5000 psi. What's the normal internal pressure for an engine?
Chrome ally cleaner……? Who is that made by …..
Greas gun and spark plug hole 🕳️?
can't wait to get it running ...
Waste not won’t not 😂😂😂🇬🇧
Soak it in diesel…..