I like these kinds of videos. Its neat to see your workflow. I like how you talk about what and why you choose this route. I think your pricing, whether or not its the actual pricing, I think its very fair for the work involved.
Thank You for this great break down video. I specialize in RV Park WiFi installations. I love Ubiquiti as many do... but I've found that Mikrotik works better for the proper coverage. the AC M pro's just don't have dbi strengths to work in outdoor applications in scenarios like this. in this case with cabins, 2.4 is your friend, but 5ghz is still best especially for streaming services. I like to build my systems with strong 5GHz, and then fill in 2.4Ghz.
Honestly, from a business owner prospective this is pretty reasonable. I was just quoted 6k for a mini split install in my home. 11k~ seems pretty good!
Thank you so much.. actually someone asked me to do a very similar project and i was thinking about the options (mesh, dishes, trench).. then youtube gave me this very detailed video so i know which options are via le and considered professional. Also the pricing breakdown was really helpful, thanks for the openness!
I disagree, I build networks for RV parks and this is very similar. The issue with the UAP-AC-M-Pro is client device talkback signal strength. Sure you can blast the outdoor area with the mesh pros but the iphone inside one of the cabins is going to have a very hard time talking back to the AP. I would either put a Nanobeam on each cabin and a UAP-AC-Pro on the inside of each building. OR put a UAP-AC-Mesh indoors at each cabin. The main building seems fine but I would have gone with a UDM-Pro SE and a 16 port switch. Can all go in a little rack and be nicely patched and have some cable management for the hub. (you touched on it at the end of the video but I don't think it is overkill.)
I disagree to. I was given a fiber backed campground with UAP AC M Pros on 14 towers, UAP AC M units on each subscribed camper and U6 Lites inside the units. The UAP AC units roam even when they are pointed to the UAC Pro units. They added AP groups for each lot number to hand out separate SSIDs and then tried to use the captive portal for the weekend warriors. Remember, I said it was given to me. The ISP wanted their weekends back without having to refund all of their customers, lol.
This is great as always. I don’t get a chance to do much mesh, so I appreciate you discussing those options. I’m always stuck on doing crazy length ptp connections. Your pricing is fair. I’ll send you drink money for your video efforts!! I owe you that on what you’ve saved me on VoIP training.
Good design, but I would change instead of the Mesh Pro AP to a U6-LR and maybe add another one if they are not enough - but they should do the job great. The Mesh Pro is AC Wave 1 so installing it in a new installation today is a bit of a waste...
I understand why ubiquiti is popular for self install by people with a limited experience, it's affordable and easy to setup but don't get why pros don't install mikrotik. It's equally affordable or more so, much more capable and configurable and it performs better in almost every direct measure. (Excluding carrier wisp market) It would be ideal in this environment and provide better speeds and coverage for about half the cost. Unless you want an actually professional solution when you would use Ruckus or Aruba but that's not low cost like ubiquiti. Although the best advice for this park would be to find out why they can't cable between the cabins, it would be so much better solution to ptp to a master over the field and have a poe cat6 to neighbouring cabins, every other would probably do but depends on construction. Also... You would then want a few 30/60deg sector antenna for covering the field itself. You will have weak signal in the middle with the suggested kit as the gain will not be good enough for the clients.
My experience with the Mesh Pro wasn't good. You can use A Mesh AC with the Dual-Band antenna for the same price and cover things better. We used them to cover an entire city block with no speed losses from a phone at the end of the street. I would also go with NanoStation 5AC Loco on each building with an AP AC In-Wall at each cabin. Not a bug increase in cost but a much better user experience. I think I would also go with 2 LAP-GPS for better property coverage and because they are so inexpensive. And 2 24-POE Switches, one at the corner of the building, one where the internet comes in to distribute things better with a Cat-6A 10-Gb link. The dual netgate seems overkill, and I instead go with the Dream Machine Pro SE. Starlink is also a good internet option for a remote place like this, but it's not technically usable under the user agreement to use it for a business unless you pay the $500/month plan.
I've had the exact opposite experience, where the Mesh Pros have provided much better coverage. Although, we had one a few weeks ago that didn't seem to cover much at all. I chalk it up to a defective AP, possibly an internal antenna issue.
Lots of ways to do that string of cabins. I might prefer one radio shot to the closest cabin then wire or fiber$$ to a PoE in each of the rest of the cabins. This would provide EZPZ infrastructure for cameras anywhere later on. I would also do a small rack in the main house for adding redundant Internet or Starlink service later on. Some people like to disconnect on vacation but I like fast stable Internet! Most mountain area rentals say “wifi” in the property description but they often just have crappy DSL, as I experienced in that same area about a year ago.
I took a look online and the cabins have TVs so there is a decent chance they already have coax running back to the main building. If so, MoCA (DECA if they are using DirecTV) adapters and an AP in each cabin might be another easier and more cost effect alternative.
we quote these thing all the time and then you get cheep owners that say (i didn't want to put that munch money in to it) but they charge the high dollar to rent the cabins out
Your rates are pretty fair, imo. That's a lot of work. I charged $4200 for a PtMP setup at a rural location with multiple metal-sided buildings on site, and I felt like I shortchanged myself, given the amount of planning and physical labor involved.
Great content. I am designing a similar cabin concept, but with lots of trees between each cabin. Is something like this possible with lots of trees / an obstructed path between the cabins?
Personally I am highly annoyed with Ubiquiti. Switched everything over when I started watching your videos, and I am very happy with what I have. But I have been on a notification list for the SolarPoints for over a year. They keep coming out with new products but they cannot even stock what they claim to sell. If anyone knows an alternative to the SunMax SolarPoints, please let me know.
Great video! Curious how you think about interference from the ptmp on clients in the open area. When is 60ghz necessary to avoid interference, and when can you get away with 5gh ptmp?
I realize that you aren't a fan of the Unifi routers, but buying 2 Dream Machine Pro SE units would eliminate the need for the Netgate routers, the Cloud Key Gen 2 +, and the redundant switches. Plus it eliminates the significant failure risk associated with the CK Gen 2 + units. They have internal batteries that are failing without people knowing about it, until power is lost. And the overall cost of the hardware would be about $800 less? Maybe the DMP SE wasn't available yet, when this video was produced?
Thank you for sharing. Do you typically recommend a UPS to protect equipment or at least a surge protector? If you do, what brand / size you recommend.
The Unifi 16 port lite switch PoE, is capable of 45W, and the Unifi 6 Pro is only taking 13W max. So you already have consumed 39W of the 45W available. If you have to power at least 2 other devices, I assume it's not enough power...
Great video but I do have a curiosity: You had spec'd out an extra switche in case of failure. Do you keep these configured and online in order to maintain them? Or do they stay offline and "safe" from environmental factors that might compromise the primary switch? ~9:20
The redundant switch is fully configured and connected to a dedicated port on the front line switch. If the front line switch fails then the backup switch automatically takes over.
I saw your video where you demonstrate setting up 3 airMAX NanoBeam 5AC as 1 Access point and 2 client stations. Here you use airMAX Lite AP for Access point. Could you tell the difference between those two devices please since I'm new to it and it's difficult to understand it on the official site
What I would have probably done is put 1 high gain omni in the centerish of the open area linked back to the main building an youl could even make it solar powered for the one in the center. It would solve the weaker signal in the central yard and should have enough range to enter the cabins as well.
I know this may be a stretch, but can you use something like this after the fact or if you got shot down for your budget and reach out to some other RV Park installers. I used to work for TengoInternet and would love to see what they would recommend. I think they would work with you for the content as well. I understand not wanting to give clients away and that is why I am thinking checking after not getting the install contract.
I have done this for a local little league almost exact same setup - I feel like I'm going crazy as the speed of a single device is getting 1-10mbs on bad days and 20-40mbs on a good day. Any tips for getting closer to that 100mbs?
He doesn't do that work. Chris has always said that his business does work for other business, via consulting and installations: he doesn't sell hardware nor is an ISP...
Can the UISP airMAX LiteAP AC Access Point do the same Ptmtp as the GPS version? Asking because the GPS version isn't in stock. Also the nano beam gen2 is also out of stock, what's an alternative for that also?
Is it possible to use the U6 Mesh directly on the secondary Port of the NanoBeam when i power up the Nanobeam with a Unifi Switch Lite 16 and a Instant Poe Converter?
I would put in the new Wave 60GHz with 5GHz backup solution. Great speed through the air. UISP airMAX GigaBeam 60 GHz Radio with Ubiquiti airCube ACB-AC for internal wireless. This has PoE pass through and will power the gigabeam. No need for PoE injectors. Then as a switch at the main backhaul use a Ubiquiti US-8-150W UniFi 8-Port. Allows 48v or 24v on the ports
2 days 2 engineers no problem only experienced installers. 2 days one visit to design and consult, one day to plan and add end test. seen companies blag installs for weeks charging thousands and the customer doesn't understand what's involved. baffle them with science stick 10K on the job. makes you sick
CS Solutions: I'm an OLD man - really, I am old. I am not another Elon Musk or bozo-Bezos,: my point - I'm not wealthy, BUT come on - this customer/client - the fellow asking for help, stop cheaping-out. PAY CS Solutions for their time/designs/recommendations - be fair. Knowledge is expensive - and not everyone is a techie. I'm tired, really tired of these cheap skates, who want and want and want, and refuse to pay. From what I can hear, this fellow HAS MONEY, he has multiple buildings on his property - I respect CS Solutions, but I believe that they should draw the line - and CHARGE for their expertise. Look, I do not know what CS Solutions may charge - I don't know, but they deserve to be compensated. Hey, just my opinion, I mean no disrespect - but pay 'the man,' be fair. PAY for the SERVICES and support that is requested. Great videos - and thank you. YF JB.
The Cloud Key Gen 2 plus has an internal battery that swells. Multiple people have had that battery destroy their cloud keys. That would be the reason it is still in stock, no one wants that.
So if someone was to own a house up on a ridge overlooking a lake and they had one of those point to multipoint antennas could they theoretically have their boat(s) receiving the signal and broadcasting their own Wi-Fi? Have you heard of people ever doing this?
I don't know how tolerant they are to movement. From what I've seen here and from other videos, alignment is important, so I have to imagine it would be tough to get appropriate alignment, and even with the boat being anchored, it's going to pitch and yaw with the waves. Interesting thought, though!
They are directional, so it would work as long as the antenna on the boat was pointing back at the house antenna. I'd say its only feasible when the boat isn't moving and you'd have to adjust the antenna manually every time you move the boat.
That's what the Netgate 4100 is, it's a router/firewall that runs PFSense. Chris did a video a little while back saying why he doesn't like to use the Dream Machine line in production. Basically it comes down to Ubiquity not supporting basic features that buisness owners want/need.
@@tekjoey Could you name some, which a hotel would actually use? I mean, you could do VRRP and dual WAN failover on a pair of EdgeRouters, hell even on things like ER-X SFP. You'd likely not need more than three VLANs on top of native and the price difference is significant for routing and you can do per-VLAN throttling too. I understand Netgate at a company central, but at a remote site? Not sure, if the price premium is worth it.
@@btigenie No, the Netgate 4100 is not a Ubiquiti product, it would be handling the connection, routing, & (optional) failover for Internet connectivity. The Cloud Key Gen2 Plus would be the Unifi controller in this setup to manage the Ubiquiti devices.
Typical "I like this so it's the only thing that should be used" answer. And completely wrong. The customer here specifically asked for Ubiquiti and he probably contacted CS because they are known for doing Ubiquiti. It's so tiring to hear all those fanboys of some specific system always claim that their choice is better than everyone elses.
I like these kinds of videos. Its neat to see your workflow. I like how you talk about what and why you choose this route. I think your pricing, whether or not its the actual pricing, I think its very fair for the work involved.
Screw buying you a beer, at least he owes you a keg!
Very nice of you to do all of that for him. He should comp you a week at his lodge!!
Thank You for this great break down video. I specialize in RV Park WiFi installations. I love Ubiquiti as many do... but I've found that Mikrotik works better for the proper coverage. the AC M pro's just don't have dbi strengths to work in outdoor applications in scenarios like this. in this case with cabins, 2.4 is your friend, but 5ghz is still best especially for streaming services. I like to build my systems with strong 5GHz, and then fill in 2.4Ghz.
Honestly, from a business owner prospective this is pretty reasonable. I was just quoted 6k for a mini split install in my home. 11k~ seems pretty good!
Haha great timing. I'm currently watching this (with much buffering) from a cabin at a campground with horrible wifi coverage.
Thank you so much.. actually someone asked me to do a very similar project and i was thinking about the options (mesh, dishes, trench).. then youtube gave me this very detailed video so i know which options are via le and considered professional. Also the pricing breakdown was really helpful, thanks for the openness!
I disagree, I build networks for RV parks and this is very similar. The issue with the UAP-AC-M-Pro is client device talkback signal strength. Sure you can blast the outdoor area with the mesh pros but the iphone inside one of the cabins is going to have a very hard time talking back to the AP. I would either put a Nanobeam on each cabin and a UAP-AC-Pro on the inside of each building. OR put a UAP-AC-Mesh indoors at each cabin. The main building seems fine but I would have gone with a UDM-Pro SE and a 16 port switch. Can all go in a little rack and be nicely patched and have some cable management for the hub. (you touched on it at the end of the video but I don't think it is overkill.)
I disagree to. I was given a fiber backed campground with UAP AC M Pros on 14 towers, UAP AC M units on each subscribed camper and U6 Lites inside the units. The UAP AC units roam even when they are pointed to the UAC Pro units. They added AP groups for each lot number to hand out separate SSIDs and then tried to use the captive portal for the weekend warriors. Remember, I said it was given to me. The ISP wanted their weekends back without having to refund all of their customers, lol.
Thanks for this. Great to see the thought process behind what you do. Looking forward to more like this one. Keep 'em coming!
This is great as always. I don’t get a chance to do much mesh, so I appreciate you discussing those options. I’m always stuck on doing crazy length ptp connections. Your pricing is fair. I’ll send you drink money for your video efforts!! I owe you that on what you’ve saved me on VoIP training.
Thanks for sharing Chris and how your thought process in designing a network.
Good design, but I would change instead of the Mesh Pro AP to a U6-LR and maybe add another one if they are not enough - but they should do the job great.
The Mesh Pro is AC Wave 1 so installing it in a new installation today is a bit of a waste...
I understand why ubiquiti is popular for self install by people with a limited experience, it's affordable and easy to setup but don't get why pros don't install mikrotik. It's equally affordable or more so, much more capable and configurable and it performs better in almost every direct measure. (Excluding carrier wisp market) It would be ideal in this environment and provide better speeds and coverage for about half the cost. Unless you want an actually professional solution when you would use Ruckus or Aruba but that's not low cost like ubiquiti. Although the best advice for this park would be to find out why they can't cable between the cabins, it would be so much better solution to ptp to a master over the field and have a poe cat6 to neighbouring cabins, every other would probably do but depends on construction.
Also... You would then want a few 30/60deg sector antenna for covering the field itself. You will have weak signal in the middle with the suggested kit as the gain will not be good enough for the clients.
This is a nice Design, this will be fun to implement!! Can't wait to see you install it all !
What an amazing video, a lot of good technical info as well as business and consulting info, thanks!!
I think I would spec the U6-Mesh instead of the Mesh-Pros, just to get some newer hardware.
My experience with the Mesh Pro wasn't good. You can use A Mesh AC with the Dual-Band antenna for the same price and cover things better. We used them to cover an entire city block with no speed losses from a phone at the end of the street. I would also go with NanoStation 5AC Loco on each building with an AP AC In-Wall at each cabin. Not a bug increase in cost but a much better user experience. I think I would also go with 2 LAP-GPS for better property coverage and because they are so inexpensive. And 2 24-POE Switches, one at the corner of the building, one where the internet comes in to distribute things better with a Cat-6A 10-Gb link. The dual netgate seems overkill, and I instead go with the Dream Machine Pro SE. Starlink is also a good internet option for a remote place like this, but it's not technically usable under the user agreement to use it for a business unless you pay the $500/month plan.
I couldn't agree with you more on the Mesh Pro's. We've ended up taking them all out and replacing them with Mesh AC's. Much better coverage.
Web, does your design differ by adding wired link between inside WiFi to outside WiFi? I’ve found that to work much better.
Dream Machine Pro SE doesn't seem advanced or reliable enough for businesses in my opinion.
I've had the exact opposite experience, where the Mesh Pros have provided much better coverage. Although, we had one a few weeks ago that didn't seem to cover much at all. I chalk it up to a defective AP, possibly an internal antenna issue.
I love LucidChart.
Lots of ways to do that string of cabins. I might prefer one radio shot to the closest cabin then wire or fiber$$ to a PoE in each of the rest of the cabins. This would provide EZPZ infrastructure for cameras anywhere later on. I would also do a small rack in the main house for adding redundant Internet or Starlink service later on. Some people like to disconnect on vacation but I like fast stable Internet! Most mountain area rentals say “wifi” in the property description but they often just have crappy DSL, as I experienced in that same area about a year ago.
I took a look online and the cabins have TVs so there is a decent chance they already have coax running back to the main building. If so, MoCA (DECA if they are using DirecTV) adapters and an AP in each cabin might be another easier and more cost effect alternative.
we quote these thing all the time and then you get cheep owners that say (i didn't want to put that munch money in to it) but they charge the high dollar to rent the cabins out
I really enjoy these videos, because I am a geek. Thanks.
Yes, please do a more extensive build video. Would be much appreciated.
Your rates are pretty fair, imo. That's a lot of work. I charged $4200 for a PtMP setup at a rural location with multiple metal-sided buildings on site, and I felt like I shortchanged myself, given the amount of planning and physical labor involved.
Nice! We do labor like that as well. Looks great!
Great content. I am designing a similar cabin concept, but with lots of trees between each cabin. Is something like this possible with lots of trees / an obstructed path between the cabins?
Personally I am highly annoyed with Ubiquiti. Switched everything over when I started watching your videos, and I am very happy with what I have. But I have been on a notification list for the SolarPoints for over a year. They keep coming out with new products but they cannot even stock what they claim to sell.
If anyone knows an alternative to the SunMax SolarPoints, please let me know.
Great video!
Curious how you think about interference from the ptmp on clients in the open area. When is 60ghz necessary to avoid interference, and when can you get away with 5gh ptmp?
For the main building PoE budget of switch is less than an overall devices' consumption for that building
I realize that you aren't a fan of the Unifi routers, but buying 2 Dream Machine Pro SE units would eliminate the need for the Netgate routers, the Cloud Key Gen 2 +, and the redundant switches. Plus it eliminates the significant failure risk associated with the CK Gen 2 + units. They have internal batteries that are failing without people knowing about it, until power is lost. And the overall cost of the hardware would be about $800 less? Maybe the DMP SE wasn't available yet, when this video was produced?
"We charge $1800 per day, That does include all per diem and travel expenses...."
So what exactly does the separate $900 "Travel" cost cover?
Giant field and no pavement... Begging to be trenched with fiber. But opted for gear that will be prone to all kinds of failure
Thank you for sharing. Do you typically recommend a UPS to protect equipment or at least a surge protector? If you do, what brand / size you recommend.
The Unifi 16 port lite switch PoE, is capable of 45W, and the Unifi 6 Pro is only taking 13W max. So you already have consumed 39W of the 45W available. If you have to power at least 2 other devices, I assume it's not enough power...
Thanks!
Great video but I do have a curiosity: You had spec'd out an extra switche in case of failure. Do you keep these configured and online in order to maintain them? Or do they stay offline and "safe" from environmental factors that might compromise the primary switch? ~9:20
My question too! I get there is some redundancy, but how?
The redundant switch is fully configured and connected to a dedicated port on the front line switch. If the front line switch fails then the backup switch automatically takes over.
I saw your video where you demonstrate setting up 3 airMAX NanoBeam 5AC as 1 Access point and 2 client stations. Here you use airMAX Lite AP for Access point. Could you tell the difference between those two devices please since I'm new to it and it's difficult to understand it on the official site
What I would have probably done is put 1 high gain omni in the centerish of the open area linked back to the main building an youl could even make it solar powered for the one in the center. It would solve the weaker signal in the central yard and should have enough range to enter the cabins as well.
Why wouldn't you deploy just a UDM-SE at the main office for the POE and the controller and the Protect?
Now… Ubiquiti just has to have all this hardware in stock! Lol
Chris,
Odd questions but couldn’t fine it anywhere. Where did you get the T568B wall art?
Any reason not to use a UXG Pro as a firewall?
I would imagine that the Netgate offers more advanced features/control?
I know this may be a stretch, but can you use something like this after the fact or if you got shot down for your budget and reach out to some other RV Park installers. I used to work for TengoInternet and would love to see what they would recommend. I think they would work with you for the content as well. I understand not wanting to give clients away and that is why I am thinking checking after not getting the install contract.
I have done this for a local little league almost exact same setup - I feel like I'm going crazy as the speed of a single device is getting 1-10mbs on bad days and 20-40mbs on a good day. Any tips for getting closer to that 100mbs?
if you had roaming ipad epos on modern take using vnc you deffo need 6 . 5 doesn't work. plus cat6a
Nice t-shirt
why did you select the airmax lite AC AP for the transmitter vs using a Nano Beam 5AC?
Is there a altenative for the UISP airMAX Lite AC AP, 5 GHz, GPS Access Point because it is not in stock ???
Can you do a video about using unifi equipment to run a WISP and how to generate tokens for users to buy. Thanks
He doesn't do that work. Chris has always said that his business does work for other business, via consulting and installations: he doesn't sell hardware nor is an ISP...
Can the UISP airMAX LiteAP AC Access Point do the same Ptmtp as the GPS version? Asking because the GPS version isn't in stock. Also the nano beam gen2 is also out of stock, what's an alternative for that also?
I am wondering why you put the mesh-pro's and the ptmp together. Doesn't that defeat purposes?
When do you add the cost for cable and installation hardware , or is it included in the installation labor charge?
Is it possible to use the U6 Mesh directly on the secondary Port of the NanoBeam when i power up the Nanobeam with a Unifi Switch Lite 16 and a Instant Poe Converter?
Great video.
Chris, if his ISP delivered 500M, what is your speed expectation inside the furthest cabin?
mesh pro 100% and solid
I would put in the new Wave 60GHz with 5GHz backup solution. Great speed through the air. UISP airMAX GigaBeam 60 GHz Radio with Ubiquiti airCube ACB-AC for internal wireless. This has PoE pass through and will power the gigabeam. No need for PoE injectors. Then as a switch at the main backhaul use a Ubiquiti US-8-150W UniFi 8-Port. Allows 48v or 24v on the ports
Pretty sure those aren't even available yet - still Early Access.
2 days 2 engineers no problem only experienced installers. 2 days one visit to design and consult, one day to plan and add end test. seen companies blag installs for weeks charging thousands and the customer doesn't understand what's involved. baffle them with science stick 10K on the job. makes you sick
CS Solutions: I'm an OLD man - really, I am old. I am not another Elon Musk or bozo-Bezos,: my point - I'm not wealthy, BUT come on - this customer/client - the fellow asking for help, stop cheaping-out. PAY CS Solutions for their time/designs/recommendations - be fair. Knowledge is expensive - and not everyone is a techie. I'm tired, really tired of these cheap skates, who want and want and want, and refuse to pay. From what I can hear, this fellow HAS MONEY, he has multiple buildings on his property - I respect CS Solutions, but I believe that they should draw the line - and CHARGE for their expertise. Look, I do not know what CS Solutions may charge - I don't know, but they deserve to be compensated. Hey, just my opinion, I mean no disrespect - but pay 'the man,' be fair. PAY for the SERVICES and support that is requested. Great videos - and thank you. YF JB.
The Cloud Key Gen 2 plus has an internal battery that swells. Multiple people have had that battery destroy their cloud keys. That would be the reason it is still in stock, no one wants that.
How in the he11 do you use the design center with outdoor applications? I dont know why i canoot find this option.
Just upload a screenshot from Google Maps and scale it.
TCP⚡️IP !!! 🤘
So if someone was to own a house up on a ridge overlooking a lake and they had one of those point to multipoint antennas could they theoretically have their boat(s) receiving the signal and broadcasting their own Wi-Fi? Have you heard of people ever doing this?
I don't know how tolerant they are to movement. From what I've seen here and from other videos, alignment is important, so I have to imagine it would be tough to get appropriate alignment, and even with the boat being anchored, it's going to pitch and yaw with the waves. Interesting thought, though!
@@BigOlBilliam depends on the AP used, I would think if it has a wide enough range the movement should be tolerable
Haven't watched this one yet but it seems he might have addressed this already in a previous video
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They are directional, so it would work as long as the antenna on the boat was pointing back at the house antenna. I'd say its only feasible when the boat isn't moving and you'd have to adjust the antenna manually every time you move the boat.
Why not include a dream machine or something similar for routing/firewall/failover/controller key/etc.?
That's what the Netgate 4100 is, it's a router/firewall that runs PFSense. Chris did a video a little while back saying why he doesn't like to use the Dream Machine line in production. Basically it comes down to Ubiquity not supporting basic features that buisness owners want/need.
@@tekjoey Could you name some, which a hotel would actually use? I mean, you could do VRRP and dual WAN failover on a pair of EdgeRouters, hell even on things like ER-X SFP. You'd likely not need more than three VLANs on top of native and the price difference is significant for routing and you can do per-VLAN throttling too. I understand Netgate at a company central, but at a remote site? Not sure, if the price premium is worth it.
@@tekjoey Is that still a Ubiquiti product?
@@tekjoey I don't see that being a problem in this case.
@@btigenie No, the Netgate 4100 is not a Ubiquiti product, it would be handling the connection, routing, & (optional) failover for Internet connectivity. The Cloud Key Gen2 Plus would be the Unifi controller in this setup to manage the Ubiquiti devices.
sooo expensive😂
Almost looks like a bear paw.
Not a fan of the overhead microphone, look out of proportion
Dude, use cambium, bridgewave, or Siklu.
Typical "I like this so it's the only thing that should be used" answer. And completely wrong. The customer here specifically asked for Ubiquiti and he probably contacted CS because they are known for doing Ubiquiti. It's so tiring to hear all those fanboys of some specific system always claim that their choice is better than everyone elses.
Yes. Assuming your customer has an unlimited budget.