Tori Langley - Your uncle composed one hell of a great song ! I've listened to this song a million and one times over the years and have never gotten tired of hearing it. Thanks for commenting.
I know the "answer" song, by Joyce Harris with The Slades , " I Cheated" (1960) Domino # R-903, composed by both Don Burch (of the Slades) and Joyce Harris. I've heard that Joyce Webb was singing with The Slades, as an added background vocalist, when the group recorded their 1958 recording of, "You Cheated", which was a return favor, since The Slades backed Joyce Webb on her recordings of, "Right Here" and "After You've Gone", a year earlier. I'd like to hear the Joyce Webb version of, "You Cheated", I didn't know that she cut a record of it. Thanks. - MrRJDB1969
On this day in 1958 {August 14th} the Slades performed "You Cheated (You Lied)" on the Dick Clark ABC-TV weekday-afternoon program 'American Bandstand'... At the time the song was at #48 on Billboard's Hot Top 100 chart, the week before it was at #42 and that was also it's peak position , according to Billboard that was also it's first week on the Top 100, the song re-entered the Top 100 on September 15th at #81 and spent a total of 12 weeks on the Top 100... Just the day before on August 13th, the Shields appeared on 'Bandstand' and performed their version of "You Cheated", and on October 6th their version peaked at #12 {for 2 weeks} on Billboard's Best Selling in Stores chart...
A note: song reached about 42 on the charts. Shortly after, the Shields cover went to very near the top 10. Jesse Belvin, a member of the Shields, went on to write Earth Angel.
@@davide.cobbiv582I heard that David Cobb sang with the Shields, or had something to do with the song you Cheated you lied. I believe I knew Davids family. Later in life I believe David sang in church. Every Now And Then!
I never knew that the Slade's did this song originally but it sounds great. I'm A jukebox man and I have never seen a copy By The Slade's of this song for some reason ? I have A Shields version of it in my 1955 Jukebox.
This original version is a very, very good version, a hauntingly raw gem. I can definitely appreciate their effort. Too bad The Slades didn't have better production talent in the studio with them out there in Austin on this song. Non the less, The Shields version absolutely nails it, in every way. How can you go wrong with Frankie Ervin on lead, Jessie Belvin on falsetto and Johnny 'Guitar' Watson on bass vocals, to name a few? And Ernie Freeman's band backing. That's why The Shields version is THE classic it is. Hands down.
Opinions are what they are.... just opinions . On another note, same scenario, I guess we could all agree, that when The Diamonds recorded their version of, "Little Darlin" " , originally recorded by The Gladiolas, they pretty well buried the original version completely. The Diamonds nailed that song perfectly and it was an all-time hit recording. I find it interesting though, The Diamonds are often criticized today, for having recorded a song originally recorded by someone black and are somehow accused of "stealing" from them, and yet, in the case of, The Shields, who were black, and had a hit record with a song which was written and originally recorded by a white group, they are admired for it. These double standards are laughable . With all this said, since the beginning of recorded music, all written music did have a tendency to be recorded by multiple performers, many times over and in the same year, but on different record labels. I have proof of this and skin colors of the composer or of the original a recording artist, made no difference. If a song was written, it could and did get recorded by all who either liked the song and or who saw hit potential in it. So, I don't have any ill feelings for The Shields for having covered The Slades original , NOR do I have any bad feelings towards The Diamonds for recording their version of The Gladiolas song. It was just the way music was back then and how it was from the very beginning in the history of recorded music ; which isn't debatable. As for which version is "better", well, that's completely up to the listener isn't it.
Also, Ritchie Valens recorded a version of, "We Belong Together" on the Del-Fi label late in 1958, a song which was originally recorded by black recording stars, Robert & Johnny on Old Town in December of 1957. I wouldn't say that the Valens version was anywhere near the quality of the original version, would you ? How does his cover of, "Framed" , originally recorded by The Coasters, but composed by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, match up ? ... not very well. But again, it's up to the listener to decide.
Personal opinions are just opinions, that is true. But withstanding the test of time, that is a true barometer. With the Shields and the Diamonds, using an almost identical musical arrangement for their covers, their superior studio production is the difference between a legendary classic and a forgotten gem. On the other hand, the test of time wasn't so kind to the Crew Cuts or Georgia Gibbs and their covers of the Chord's 'Sha-boom' or Etta James' 'Roll with me Henry', equal production value had no bearing. Speaking of equal production value, one can look at Elvis Presley's cover/copy of Carl Perkin's (in my opinion, superior) 'Blue Suede Shoes', which one is the classic? As for Richie Valens' cover (or for that matter, The Videls' version) of Robert and Johnny's 'We Belong Together', they really were different musical arrangements and productions, a duo or full vocal group always sounds different from a soloist with no backing vocals. He made it his, not a copy. But, of course, the test of time, not our opinions, has decided for posterity what is the legendary classic and what is the forgotten gem, or just plain forgotten.
"Sh-Boom" by The Crew Cuts held the # 1 spot on the record charts for several weeks after it was released back in 1954, where-as, The Chords version did not . The Chords version was later used in 2006 cartoon film, "Cars", though, which finally got it some recognition. I personally like both versions, since The Crew Cuts used a full big band to back them on their version and The Chords used a basic rhythm section with a tenor sax break , they were completely different treatments and yet, it was the same song. With that said though, The Crew Cuts did have the hit recording of, "Sh-Boom", which has been used in films and television programs over the years. The Crew Cuts had other recordings, which The Chords did not, that did hit the charts as well, such as, "Angels In The Sky" , written by white songwriter-singer, Dick Glasser, which was given a cover by a black group, The Monarchs, not long after The Crew Cuts version was released. Both of these recordings and the one done a year earlier by, Tony Martin, were themselves covers, since the composer of the song, Dick Glasser, also recorded it in 1953 on the Triple A label. People today are confused and completely off base, when it comes to the music business and trends, before the mid 1960's, all popular songs or songs seen as potential hits, were recorded several times over, in the same year or in the years that followed by any and all. There was no "stealing", songs were written, people recorded them, and money was either made, or it wasn't. The record buyer determined which verison made it or did not, in many ways . As for The Videls version of, "We Belong Together", it wasn't recorded until 1963, with a tempo change, etc. etc. , which was completely different than the Robert & Johnny version or the Valens cover. Someone will like one version or the other, or maybe, they will like all the versions, because they simply like the song itself and versions or singer doesn't matter all that much. In regards to, "Blue Suede Shoes", that's a tough one, since I like both singers, I like the song, and I like both versions, but I agree, the Perkins version has a bit of rawness to it, which the Presley version doesn't, so, maybe the Perkins version has an edge over the latter (Perkins version hit at #4 in 1956, while Presley's peaked at #24) . But again, it's all up to the listener to decide. As for Georgia Gibbs, I liked her better when she was, Fredda Gibson (* who was Jewish and not using her birth name), and singing with the big bands of the 1940's . I personally don't care for the song, "Roll With Me Henry" (aka "Dance With Me Henry"), so either version could be good or bad to someone else. The outcome of the "test of time" theory , when not influenced by those in Hollywood, media, education, etc. etc. today, could and would be quite different, if just left to the memories of those who were there back then and lived in those times . What we see today as a "hit" version of something, because it was used in a film, say 12 years ago, doesn't necessarily mean it was the "hit" version at the time a song was recorded and released to the public.
Which is “better” is a matter of personal taste. The Slades were teen-angers, all but one of them still in high school. The Shields were professionals, brought together by producer George Motola for the express purpose of covering this song for Dot records. Dot had offered to take over distribution for the Slades’ version, which was rejected. Shields version is more polished, I agree, but I prefer the Slades version because it’s the one I heard as a Texas high-schooler. From a musical point of view, I think the Shangri-Las were better, to be honest.
The slades version of you cheated is far better than the shields version, the lead singer Don Birch puts so much emotion to the song, and the harmony of the Slades is second to none. I am a singer and when I sing You Cheated to the general public, I sing the Slades version only. The cover version by the Shields mean nothing to me. The Slades always knew what was best for the song. Respectfully: Henry Pope
I agree with with you 100%. Don Burch, the writer of, "You Cheated" and the lead voice of The Slades, did handle the lyrics better than Frankie Ervin of The Shields, in my opinion. I did like The Shields and all the other covers of, "You Cheated" though, since I do like the song itself. With that said and if ever asked, which version of the song do I prefer, I always say, The Slades version.
Yes indeed...This song has beautiful harmony but, more importantly...It is the best example in DOO WOP history of black singers [The Shields] COVERING the "original" white version and being infinitely more successful
+moonrayz4 - Ya, well, to each their own. Many would say that The Diamonds version of the Gladiolas "Little Darlin'" original, was a 100% better , which I agree with, but again, to each their own.
+MrRJDB1969 I agree about the Diamonds' version of Little Darlin'..I suspect that Maurice Williams, the lead singer of the Gladiolas and songwriter, would also agree..Happily, the Diamonds' success was profitable for MW and he and the Diamonds remained on good terms.
Hopefully, Don Burch, the lead voice of The Slades and the writer of, "You Cheated" , profited from the success of The Shields version of his song as well. The Del Vikings, Ronnie Hawkins, etc. etc. all recorded "You Cheated" and again, hopefully Don Burch had some money come his direction from these versions also.
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Should have been a top 10 hit with national promotion and exposure..
I have it By The Shield's in my 1955 Jukebox. Great Song !
Yet you say you still say you love me...yet I still forgive you!!!!
My uncle wrote this song. Don Burch.
Tori Langley - Your uncle composed one hell of a great song ! I've listened to this song a million and one times over the years and have never gotten tired of hearing it. Thanks for commenting.
+MrRJDB1969 My step grandmother recorded a version of this. Joyce Webb was with the Slades for a while.
Which version of the song do you prefer, Tori, and which did Don like best?
I know the "answer" song, by Joyce Harris with The Slades , " I Cheated" (1960) Domino # R-903, composed by both Don Burch (of the Slades) and Joyce Harris. I've heard that Joyce Webb was singing with The Slades, as an added background vocalist, when the group recorded their 1958 recording of, "You Cheated", which was a return favor, since The Slades backed Joyce Webb on her recordings of, "Right Here" and "After You've Gone", a year earlier. I'd like to hear the Joyce Webb version of, "You Cheated", I didn't know that she cut a record of it. Thanks. - MrRJDB1969
I'm 64 and never.this group.fantastic it should be doo wop for ever
First time I've heard this. This and the version by The Shields are both excellent. Very seldom hear two terrific versions of a great Doo Wop song.
I agree. Both this & the Shields version sound wonderful & authentic.
The shangri las sang.a very good version
The Slades were the original artists that wrote this song; one of the members is a relative of my wife.
Just getting to High School in 1958 as a freshman. Really taken back to those days.
Slow dancing at the golf clubhouse. Fort Mill SC
Best version of this song by far......Sung with more heart and feeling than any of the other versions. Beautiful...
+OneHokie4Life This version is great, but the Shangri-Las do a pretty bang-up job, too!
On this day in 1958 {August 14th} the Slades performed "You Cheated (You Lied)" on the Dick Clark ABC-TV weekday-afternoon program 'American Bandstand'...
At the time the song was at #48 on Billboard's Hot Top 100 chart, the week before it was at #42 and that was also it's peak position , according to Billboard that was also it's first week on the Top 100, the song re-entered the Top 100 on September 15th at #81 and spent a total of 12 weeks on the Top 100...
Just the day before on August 13th, the Shields appeared on 'Bandstand' and performed their version of "You Cheated", and on October 6th their version peaked at #12 {for 2 weeks} on Billboard's Best Selling in Stores chart...
Beautiful song, forever grateful for the SLADES ❤RIP❤️❤️❤️
I could listen to this all day
I love this version, but I have to say Ronnie Hawkins version is my all time favourite.
où là là là c'est magnifique trop trop trop jolie comme toujours j'adore merci beaucoup
Great music! And a great era!
GREAT tune. Totally strummed my heart strings... 5*****
I like the The Slades best!
Beautiful harmony!
c'est magnifique c'est tellement géniale c'est trop trop jolie j'adore ❤
very nice.....the best version I have heard...
Thanks.... I concur
Brilliant.Thankyou for posting.
A note: song reached about 42 on the charts. Shortly after, the Shields cover went to very near the top 10. Jesse Belvin, a member of the Shields, went on to write Earth Angel.
Thanks. Just a note, Jessie Belvin, was a co-writer of, "Earth Angel" , and it was composed four years earlier in 1954.
my dad was also a member of the shields and was a session singer managed by George.
@@davide.cobbiv582I heard that David Cobb sang with the Shields, or had something to do with the song you Cheated you lied. I believe I knew Davids family. Later in life I believe David sang in church. Every Now And Then!
Thanks for posting this piece by the Slades
I never knew that the Slade's did this song originally but it sounds great. I'm A jukebox man and I have never seen a copy By The Slade's of this song for some reason ? I have A Shields version of it in my 1955 Jukebox.
The Slade's original version of, "You Cheated", was recorded on the small Domino Records label. Getting a copy can be difficult.
Yes You Did!!
A copy is always easily improved, I like originals
gerard haubert I agree with you completely. The original sets the standard. Anybody can copy a work of art. The original work is the masterpiece..
@@chatman2a true but sometimes the original is not the best but in this case original is the best
QUE ROMANTICO, LINDO DEMAIS!!!!
50s Gold plays this version in addition to The Shields.
où là là une vraie merveilles trop trop trop jolie magnifique comme toujours j'adore merci beaucoup
They attended McCallum High School here in Austin, Texas.
où là là magnifique trop trop trop jolie merveilleux comme toujours j'adore merci beaucoup
super great song great slow dance
Boys don't even know how to take a woman in their arms and make their knee's turn to jelly slow dancing.
Great song. You Cheated the slades doing the song years later.
This is the 1958 recording of, "You Cheated". Predates all the covers made by The Shields, Ronnie Hawkins, The Del Vikings, etc. etc.
not a contest both good versions..this is the original
et oui t'es trop trop géniale 😉❤
perfect killer
This original version is a very, very good version, a hauntingly raw gem. I can definitely appreciate their effort. Too bad The Slades didn't have better production talent in the studio with them out there in Austin on this song. Non the less, The Shields version absolutely nails it, in every way. How can you go wrong with Frankie Ervin on lead, Jessie Belvin on falsetto and Johnny 'Guitar' Watson on bass vocals, to name a few? And Ernie Freeman's band backing. That's why The Shields version is THE classic it is. Hands down.
Opinions are what they are.... just opinions . On another note, same scenario, I guess we could all agree, that when The Diamonds recorded their version of, "Little Darlin" " , originally recorded by The Gladiolas, they pretty well buried the original version completely. The Diamonds nailed that song perfectly and it was an all-time hit recording. I find it interesting though, The Diamonds are often criticized today, for having recorded a song originally recorded by someone black and are somehow accused of "stealing" from them, and yet, in the case of, The Shields, who were black, and had a hit record with a song which was written and originally recorded by a white group, they are admired for it. These double standards are laughable . With all this said, since the beginning of recorded music, all written music did have a tendency to be recorded by multiple performers, many times over and in the same year, but on different record labels. I have proof of this and skin colors of the composer or of the original a recording artist, made no difference. If a song was written, it could and did get recorded by all who either liked the song and or who saw hit potential in it. So, I don't have any ill feelings for The Shields for having covered The Slades original , NOR do I have any bad feelings towards The Diamonds for recording their version of The Gladiolas song. It was just the way music was back then and how it was from the very beginning in the history of recorded music ; which isn't debatable. As for which version is "better", well, that's completely up to the listener isn't it.
Also, Ritchie Valens recorded a version of, "We Belong Together" on the Del-Fi label late in 1958, a song which was originally recorded by black recording stars, Robert & Johnny on Old Town in December of 1957. I wouldn't say that the Valens version was anywhere near the quality of the original version, would you ? How does his cover of, "Framed" , originally recorded by The Coasters, but composed by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, match up ? ... not very well. But again, it's up to the listener to decide.
Personal opinions are just opinions, that is true. But withstanding the test of time, that is a true barometer. With the Shields and the Diamonds, using an almost identical musical arrangement for their covers, their superior studio production is the difference between a legendary classic and a forgotten gem. On the other hand, the test of time wasn't so kind to the Crew Cuts or Georgia Gibbs and their covers of the Chord's 'Sha-boom' or Etta James' 'Roll with me Henry', equal production value had no bearing. Speaking of equal production value, one can look at Elvis Presley's cover/copy of Carl Perkin's (in my opinion, superior) 'Blue Suede Shoes', which one is the classic? As for Richie Valens' cover (or for that matter, The Videls' version) of Robert and Johnny's 'We Belong Together', they really were different musical arrangements and productions, a duo or full vocal group always sounds different from a soloist with no backing vocals. He made it his, not a copy. But, of course, the test of time, not our opinions, has decided for posterity what is the legendary classic and what is the forgotten gem, or just plain forgotten.
"Sh-Boom" by The Crew Cuts held the # 1 spot on the record charts for several weeks after it was released back in 1954, where-as, The Chords version did not . The Chords version was later used in 2006 cartoon film, "Cars", though, which finally got it some recognition. I personally like both versions, since The Crew Cuts used a full big band to back them on their version and The Chords used a basic rhythm section with a tenor sax break , they were completely different treatments and yet, it was the same song. With that said though, The Crew Cuts did have the hit recording of, "Sh-Boom", which has been used in films and television programs over the years. The Crew Cuts had other recordings, which The Chords did not, that did hit the charts as well, such as, "Angels In The Sky" , written by white songwriter-singer, Dick Glasser, which was given a cover by a black group, The Monarchs, not long after The Crew Cuts version was released. Both of these recordings and the one done a year earlier by, Tony Martin, were themselves covers, since the composer of the song, Dick Glasser, also recorded it in 1953 on the Triple A label. People today are confused and completely off base, when it comes to the music business and trends, before the mid 1960's, all popular songs or songs seen as potential hits, were recorded several times over, in the same year or in the years that followed by any and all. There was no "stealing", songs were written, people recorded them, and money was either made, or it wasn't. The record buyer determined which verison made it or did not, in many ways . As for The Videls version of, "We Belong Together", it wasn't recorded until 1963, with a tempo change, etc. etc. , which was completely different than the Robert & Johnny version or the Valens cover. Someone will like one version or the other, or maybe, they will like all the versions, because they simply like the song itself and versions or singer doesn't matter all that much. In regards to, "Blue Suede Shoes", that's a tough one, since I like both singers, I like the song, and I like both versions, but I agree, the Perkins version has a bit of rawness to it, which the Presley version doesn't, so, maybe the Perkins version has an edge over the latter (Perkins version hit at #4 in 1956, while Presley's peaked at #24) . But again, it's all up to the listener to decide. As for Georgia Gibbs, I liked her better when she was, Fredda Gibson (* who was Jewish and not using her birth name), and singing with the big bands of the 1940's . I personally don't care for the song, "Roll With Me Henry" (aka "Dance With Me Henry"), so either version could be good or bad to someone else. The outcome of the "test of time" theory , when not influenced by those in Hollywood, media, education, etc. etc. today, could and would be quite different, if just left to the memories of those who were there back then and lived in those times . What we see today as a "hit" version of something, because it was used in a film, say 12 years ago, doesn't necessarily mean it was the "hit" version at the time a song was recorded and released to the public.
My dad David Cobb, sang tenor
This is the orignal verison. And the one
Muy bien; Chile 04-2020
Which is “better” is a matter of personal taste. The Slades were teen-angers, all but one of them still in high school. The Shields were professionals, brought together by producer George Motola for the express purpose of covering this song for Dot records. Dot had offered to take over distribution for the Slades’ version, which was rejected.
Shields version is more polished, I agree, but I prefer the Slades version because it’s the one I heard as a Texas high-schooler. From a musical point of view, I think the Shangri-Las were better, to be honest.
Well said. It should also be mentioned, that it was the lead singer of The Slades, Don Burch, who composed, "You Cheated".
Tab Hunter also recorded this song in 1961.
G/EM/C/D on Guitar I think..Works great on play along. What a sound for 70 year olds
The slades version of you cheated is far better than the shields version, the lead singer Don Birch puts so much emotion to the song, and the harmony of the Slades is second to none. I am a singer and when I sing You Cheated to the general public, I sing the Slades version only. The cover version by the Shields mean nothing to me. The Slades always knew what was best for the song. Respectfully: Henry Pope
I agree with with you 100%. Don Burch, the writer of, "You Cheated" and the lead voice of The Slades, did handle the lyrics better than Frankie Ervin of The Shields, in my opinion. I did like The Shields and all the other covers of, "You Cheated" though, since I do like the song itself. With that said and if ever asked, which version of the song do I prefer, I always say, The Slades version.
I just heard this version for the first time. So in my opinion, I think Shields #1, The Slades #2, and the Del Vikings #3.
Please Love me like i Love you!!!
ALWAYS LIKE THE ORIGINAL BEST....THESE AUSTIN, TX. BOYS LEAD BY DON BURCH WITH THEIR WONDERFUL STANDARD...COPIED BY MANY IN 1958
I agree
Yes indeed...This song has beautiful harmony but, more importantly...It is the best example in DOO WOP history of black singers [The Shields] COVERING the "original" white version and being infinitely more successful
MrRJDB1969; is that our birth year?
yep..... officially older than dirt - MrRJDB1969
well; You are 32 years younger than me, old Man?
HaHa
Negative XP
Very good but the arrangement by the Shields is more more sophisticated with its more soulful harmony and syncopation...
+moonrayz4 - Ya, well, to each their own. Many would say that The Diamonds version of the Gladiolas "Little Darlin'" original, was a 100% better , which I agree with, but again, to each their own.
+MrRJDB1969 I agree about the Diamonds' version of Little Darlin'..I suspect that Maurice Williams, the lead singer of the Gladiolas and songwriter, would also agree..Happily, the Diamonds' success was profitable for MW and he and the Diamonds remained on good terms.
I'll take the Slades....more poignant and it's their song. That all show up in their version. Nothing wrong with Shields' copy.
Hopefully, Don Burch, the lead voice of The Slades and the writer of, "You Cheated" , profited from the success of The Shields version of his song as well. The Del Vikings, Ronnie Hawkins, etc. etc. all recorded "You Cheated" and again, hopefully Don Burch had some money come his direction from these versions also.
I AGREE
Good Tune Even Though I Like The Shields Version Better. Flip This Record Over And The B-Side Is A Great Rockabilly Tune Titled The Wobble.
Who is here from the incelcore version?
I THOUGHT JAY AND THE AMERICANS DID THIS ORIGANILY