Problematic Roller Coasters - Steel Vengeance - Cedar Point's Beautiful Headache

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024

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  • @thomasxl200
    @thomasxl200 2 года назад +1009

    I love watching the superstructure bend and flex as it goes by. You can tell that RMC really pushed the supports to its limit, for better and worse. If I weren't an engineer myself it would probably freak me out.

    • @MarsJenkar
      @MarsJenkar 2 года назад +69

      It's flexing, but it's nowhere near as bad as what the Rattler had later in its life before it got converted to Iron Rattler.

    • @theforeverpuddle8754
      @theforeverpuddle8754 2 года назад +4

      My thoughts as well.

    • @orlandosmith1242
      @orlandosmith1242 2 года назад +20

      i remember the first time i rode it, i think last year, a guy in front of me was standing in line with his mom and she couldnt stop talking about it moving and flexing and eventually convinced him out of the line.

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 2 года назад

      @@orlandosmith1242 rekt by his own mother

    • @ToyotaTom04
      @ToyotaTom04 2 года назад +12

      I've stood in line next to novice riders who start freaking out about the swaying

  • @ThirdEyePerspective1111
    @ThirdEyePerspective1111 Год назад +142

    There's not a single bad thing I could possibly say about this ride. It is nothing less than absolutely phenomenal from start to finish. As long as it is, there's not a single dull moment the whole time.

    • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
      @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 Год назад +4

      I agree. This coaster is pretty much perfect in every way.

    • @EvanSchurr
      @EvanSchurr 4 месяца назад +8

      Left me genuinely speechless when I rode it. An absolute masterclass in rollercoaster design. So much variety and intensity and not a single lull in pacing. Just as it begins to lose momentum they keep the pace hammering by sending you blasting through the superstructure, rolling and whipping the whole time. I genuinely felt like that ride was trying to steal my lunch money. 11/10, there is not a single flaw present. It's perfect.

    • @ThirdEyePerspective1111
      @ThirdEyePerspective1111 4 месяца назад +1

      @@EvanSchurr well said. I feel the same about Maverick also, just wish it was longer. Both top class rides! Throw Millennium in there, and you've got the holy Trinity.

    • @jibbedyjoojajoo
      @jibbedyjoojajoo 3 месяца назад

      i went on it for the first time last week i still have multiple bruises on my leg
      it’s very fun though

    • @ChanceNoffsinger
      @ChanceNoffsinger 2 месяца назад +2

      Rode it for 1st time yesterday and, hands down, best coaster I've ridden. Messed with my inner ear badly and had trouble hearing for about 15 minutes afterwards

  • @FunkAndFluff
    @FunkAndFluff 2 года назад +447

    51:13 "I think I got a little carried away with this one."
    If getting carried away results in incredibly insightful material like this, please get as carried away as you want, Ryan. It shows how much you trimmed the fluff and unnecessary details even in a script this long. It's fine and even encouraged to say a lot when there's a lot worth saying!

    • @coolboss999
      @coolboss999 2 года назад

      51:13 U messed up the time!

    • @TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
      @TonyKimtheamusementparkfan 2 года назад +1

      His physics and engineering knowledge to apply it to roller coasters is so nice to hear~~

    • @ryanwilliams4223
      @ryanwilliams4223 2 года назад +1

      Thanks ill keep getting carried away next time then.

    • @sbeve7445
      @sbeve7445 Год назад +1

      I genuinely didn't even know it was a hour long video before it was over lol

    • @gus1138
      @gus1138 Год назад

      I totally agree with your assessment of this video. ElToroRyan, I was surprised when you announced the length of this video. It went by in what I thought was half the time you said. I didn't check the time when I started watching, because the subject matter was of such interest to me that time didn't matter. So, thanks for giving me all this information on my favorite coaster, even though I haven't ridden it yet, when I eventually do get my ride on it, I'm sure it will fulfill all that I've imagined it to be.

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber 2 года назад +362

    Cedar Fair: "The coaster we bought from you isn't meeting expectations."
    Intamin: "We're sorry to hear that. Here's a discount voucher for your next purchase."
    RMC: _Scrambles to fix every single issue with the ride_

    • @johnkelso3252
      @johnkelso3252 2 года назад +42

      Man, I hope CF isn't done with RMC. I don't think they are, but you never know with company politics.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 2 года назад +6

      @aidanrgagalski
      Ok, as awesome as that is (assuming they actually did that), that sounds like part of the reason they went bankrupt.

    • @Penncentral-vr6mg
      @Penncentral-vr6mg 2 года назад +12

      I wonder what RMC could do if they got there hands on Gemini

    • @DynamyteTV
      @DynamyteTV 2 года назад +4

      @idkwhattoputhere I don't know man, Imagine if they moved the midway to border the lake and swoop behind dragster, we could now use the old midway plus pipe scream to create a plot that is roughly the same size as SteVe. I trust RMC over anyone with a small plot like that

    • @probablylinguini
      @probablylinguini Год назад +1

      @@DynamyteTV Gemini is already a hybrid it just happens to have wood supports

  • @willwest-toebe6287
    @willwest-toebe6287 2 года назад +1273

    Babe wake up El Toro Ryan just posted

    • @captainmaerd
      @captainmaerd 2 года назад +291

      Babe are you okay? You’ve hardly touched your block zones!

    • @thicccarteronxbox9930
      @thicccarteronxbox9930 2 года назад +207

      @@captainmaerd me flirting,” Can I trim brake this high capacity giga coaster in your little block zone?”

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  2 года назад +210

      You guys are the best 😂😂

    • @blackhawks81H
      @blackhawks81H 2 года назад

      @@ElToroRyan Have you seen Boondock Saints? When this happens. I immediately imagine the scene of Rocco running into the apartment, in a panic yelling "PACK YOUR SHIT! PACK YOUR SHIT!" stuffing pots and pans and the toaster into his luggage in his panic... Then when the guys are trying to ask him what's going on, he just continues to scream and as he's putting the clothing iron into his bag he holds it up and yells "YOU START GETTING EXCITED MOTHERFUCKERS!"

    • @Jars_of_Wiis
      @Jars_of_Wiis 2 года назад +78

      Hey babe are you a block check? Because you just stopped me in my tracks

  • @JamesonThomas24
    @JamesonThomas24 2 года назад +57

    If you got “carried away” with this video, please get “carried away” on future problematic coasters, because I got “carried away” and forgot to work for 50 minutes as I watched this.

  • @ChiefBlueScreen
    @ChiefBlueScreen 2 года назад +233

    It's so weird to see a train hit brakes on your channel, especially Mean Streak, without the Mean Streak trim sound

    • @llljb.l
      @llljb.l 2 года назад +8

      kachunk kachunk

    • @patrickfraleyjr2819
      @patrickfraleyjr2819 2 года назад +7

      They’re still on episodes of his Coaster Idiots series

    • @llljb.l
      @llljb.l 2 года назад

      @@patrickfraleyjr2819 yep

    • @WolfRaging95
      @WolfRaging95 2 года назад +2

      @@llljb.l English translation is hilarious on your comment. 😂 It translates to “let it be let it be.”

    • @llljb.l
      @llljb.l 2 года назад

      @@WolfRaging95 lolol

  • @millenniumbryan
    @millenniumbryan 3 месяца назад +4

    I rode Steel Vengence for the first time this past Tuesday! It was a great ride! The ride crew did a fantastic job on keeping minimum dispatch interval! The moment the air gates opened, ride hosts were immediately making guests step through. Very impressed

  • @craigperry3779
    @craigperry3779 2 года назад +283

    In my industry every time you try to build something that doesn't exist there are headaches. It is expected and the cost of being on the bleeding edge. I'm sure CP understands this and knew building the first 200+ ft hybrid coaster wasn't going to be easy.

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 2 года назад +6

      Imagine a hybrid giga's teething

    • @NickyD
      @NickyD 2 года назад +2

      they didnt learn from TTD issues this ride is why rmc and Cf dont work together now

    • @scottyjbd
      @scottyjbd 2 года назад +1

      @@NickyD clearly they still work together since RMC carpenters work on Steel Vengence regularly

    • @AceAviations2
      @AceAviations2 2 года назад +4

      @@NickyD honestly in comparison to the MANY issues that Intamin gave Cedar Fair in the past (Dragster, Maverick, Shoot the Rapids, I305, Volcano), these aren't that bad and a lot 0f them have been worked out. They knew the risks that a project of this caliber would have and that there were likely going to be issues, they still have to look at the success that SV and TT brought them despite the issues.
      To end things with RMC this early would be a bad idea given that RMC has a FAR better track record with reliability than Intamin with the only real major blemish being Lightning Rod.

    • @JJJJ-he8bz
      @JJJJ-he8bz 2 года назад

      @@visionist7 they would use a steel structure

  • @volcom9368
    @volcom9368 2 года назад +150

    Appreciate all the work you must’ve put into this. A 50min video is no small feat and to keep it entertaining the whole time is so impressive! Already looking forward to the next one.

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  2 года назад +23

      Thank you very much for the Super Thanks!!

  • @PolyRocketMatt
    @PolyRocketMatt 2 года назад +248

    Honestly at the end of the video the first thought was: "the 50 minutes are over already?". Even if this is your longest video, you manage to keep the video interesting to watch! Thanks for this amazing mini-documentary about one of RMC's finest creations :D

  • @masonfeagan8678
    @masonfeagan8678 2 года назад +277

    Thanks for producing informational, high-quality media to the public!

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  2 года назад +51

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the content and thank you so much for the super thanks!!

    • @Syclone0044
      @Syclone0044 2 года назад +17

      Thanks for doing this, I rarely ever see these, inspires me to do one

    • @tylerkane4761
      @tylerkane4761 2 года назад +7

      How do you donate?

    • @sevenhecks
      @sevenhecks Год назад +5

      @@tylerkane4761 should be a "donate" button under the video near share/like/etc.

    • @thedemonrebal2870
      @thedemonrebal2870 Год назад

      45:51

  • @Metal_Groove45
    @Metal_Groove45 2 года назад +123

    This ride is an absolute masterpiece.....as long as you don't get stapled!

    • @shaneh3109
      @shaneh3109 2 года назад +2

      Stapled? What does that mean?

    • @JCBro-yg8vd
      @JCBro-yg8vd 2 года назад +25

      @@shaneh3109 It means that they press the lapbar down on a rider as far as it can go, even if it's not necessary by ride safety standards. The tighter the lapbar, the more it will absorb all the airtime and lateral forces, passing them on to you the rider since your body won't move like it's intended to. It can really ruin a ride experience.

    • @lastone032085
      @lastone032085 2 года назад +7

      oh they love stapling you on twisted timbers. I'll be green on the screen and they push the bar down further anyway. I hate that. it's usually the women operators that do it thinking they are being extra safe. ugh.

    • @JCBro-yg8vd
      @JCBro-yg8vd 2 года назад +5

      @@lastone032085 I got stapled on Banshee at Kings Island. Not fun.

    • @ToomanyFrancis
      @ToomanyFrancis 2 года назад +5

      My GF hates it cause she got stapled when we went. It'll be difficult to get her to ride it again.

  • @Howlingburd19
    @Howlingburd19 2 года назад +52

    I can’t imagine just how much effort you put into making these Problematic Coasters videos. They’re always a 10/10… just like Steel Vengeance!

  • @benjaminfriedman9107
    @benjaminfriedman9107 2 года назад +128

    Skyrush would be perfect for this series, it was experimental it's well like by a lot, and it has had its fair share of issues

    • @Scxrpionz
      @Scxrpionz 2 года назад +1

      Agreed!!!!

    • @thomasxl200
      @thomasxl200 2 года назад +4

      Which still exist today... It's kinda insane that it still has the original restraints.

    • @m1lk0meda
      @m1lk0meda 2 года назад +4

      Thighcrush is a wonderful coaster, as long as you sit as forward as possible from the back of the seat and the restraint is positioned on your waist

    • @MyLifeAsBrandon
      @MyLifeAsBrandon 2 года назад

      If Skyrush would replace those damn trains I’d be happy more.
      Last time I rode it, I nearly caught myself whipping violently on one of the turns and felt like I KILLED my neck from it and not to mention that same ride my thighs getting caught so tight after the main drop that over the airtime hills I literally was screaming in agony it hurt that bad and finally that same ride the rattle was so bad when I got back to the brake run my head hurt so badly. Those three things on literally one time on the ride made me say enough.
      I ended up riding CandyMonium the rest of the day instead as that coaster is glossy smooth and graceful.
      Love those airtime hills on Skyrush but I can’t enjoy them with those trains, they’re TERRIBLE!

    • @markkalzer907
      @markkalzer907 2 года назад +1

      Oh there's got to be TONS of juicy info about that one! I love that somewhere between opening year and today they added a courtesy click release in the final break run just to ease the suffering! It was a ride that truly surprised me as the renderings and POV videos at the time couldn't do any of it justice in conveying exactly what the ride experience was.

  • @beccab8015
    @beccab8015 2 года назад +23

    Back row at night on SV is still the most intense coaster ride I've ever had. You can't tell which way is up or where you're going cuz it's so dark & the layout is non-stop elements. Just an amazing ride.

    • @lauramarienantovech262
      @lauramarienantovech262 Год назад

      Hallow weekends! ❤

    • @heartstringsbylisa
      @heartstringsbylisa Год назад

      I absolutely agree! I'm making my last trip this seasons in a few weeks for the sole purpose of a dark ride on Steel Vengeance.

  • @dustinhenderson7507
    @dustinhenderson7507 2 года назад +49

    Before finding your channel the only coster I had ridden was one at Disney Land. Now I have been to several rollercoaster parks and Steel Vengeance is near the top of my list! Thank you for the inspiration to try something new.

  • @scrunkge
    @scrunkge 5 месяцев назад +20

    Cedar Point refusing to say they're rebuilding the ride with the obvious construction is a pretty funny marketing move. Probably built way more hype for the ride.

    • @KatieKatDuzArt
      @KatieKatDuzArt 4 месяца назад +5

      I imagine them being at an interview and someone asking “so what’s the deal with the construction on what was previously Mean Streak?” And Cedar Point saying “What construction? There’s construction?”

    • @Trip3558
      @Trip3558 Месяц назад

      it's a silly thing to think they're not, all wooden coasters are maintained in sections in periods of years or months, they start one area & by the time they come back around the first area is ready to be redone again. wood has a tendency to do weird things in the elements outside. reason being they used treated structures but it's not weather proof.
      Look at 0:26, inspect the cross members, you can see a lot of them are "new" compared to the rest. yeah because those either, broke, swelled up, split the grain, bowed, heaps of different reasons. it's a constant job and it will never stop with any wooden coaster, if it does stop you wouldn't want to ride it 😁

  • @rcmaster207
    @rcmaster207 2 года назад +28

    You surprise me with every video. These problematic roller coasters videos are so in depth and the story is extremely well told. Awesome stuff. Keep it up my dude!

  • @Caliman1107
    @Caliman1107 2 года назад +37

    This ride is incredible. Was shocked by the metal detectors, but made the ride experience unforgetable. Took my 70yo mother on this ride for her birthday 😃

    • @bradcatoe
      @bradcatoe Год назад +3

      That would be the best 70th birthday present of all time. I will NEVER forget the first time I rode this. Spectacular!

    • @elitetrader5468
      @elitetrader5468 Год назад +1

      metal detectors?

    • @michelle2671
      @michelle2671 8 месяцев назад +1

      Ok, that’s super rad that a 70 yr old wants to ride SteVe. I’m almost 47 and I’m pretty sure I’ve done my last ride on The Beast - I can’t absorb the shock anymore!

  • @Netsuko
    @Netsuko 2 года назад +35

    Steel Vengeance's design and layout is absolutely nuts. I am amazed the underlying wooden structure can deal with the crazy forces. The footage really shows the crazy amount of flexing and bending when the train flies through the track.

  • @Melorum
    @Melorum 2 года назад +53

    The valleying crap was an absolute nightmare leading up to media day 2018. We valleyed 4 times when we were there and then it happened at least once more when IOE was cycling it overnight. Also the crash was entirely the fault of the company that built the original mag brakes which was not RMC, I wont say more than that. Said company went bankrupt (or at least that's what the RMC folks on site gossiped to us). Also I'm glad you mentioned trains getting stuck in the brake run in the rain because now that I dont work there I will gladly admit that I went out there to push trains myself LOL
    As for the trims in addition to the structure there's also a target speed that it tries to get trains to hit the final brake run. I think it's about 37mph but I might be wrong, it was years ago

  • @BUEAU
    @BUEAU 2 года назад +7

    I rode Steevie at his debut in spring 2018 and the mid course break run... Loved it. Gives you 5 seconds to catch your breath while laughing your ass off just before you get plunged into absolute madness for the second inning. Alan Schulke and RMC engineering genius. Best roller coaster ever.

  • @bearclaw5115
    @bearclaw5115 2 года назад +12

    I'm glad you covered the swaying of the structure. I've seen that in many of your videos and I always wondered about the implications of that swaying!

  • @Light-qx8iq
    @Light-qx8iq 2 года назад +6

    This video informed me that the first time I ever rode the Mean Streak was actually in it's last year of operation, 2016. I'm typically fearful of larger roller coasters but this one was so fun for my friends and I that I waited in line to ride it twice. A coaster that made me like more impressive coasters. It's kind of crazy to hear about how many changes it's had over the years that have made it better/worse, but it also really satisfies me that even when it was on its last legs it was still a really memorable and fun coaster. Now I gotta go back to ride Steel Vengeance

    • @smuella
      @smuella 2 года назад +1

      That‘s a fun story and it‘s nice to hear that Mean Streak was memorable for you because it was one of your fist larger coasters, because most people familiar with bigger coasters like myself found it to be incredibly boring and pointless towards the end of its life. Great to hear it was not lost on everyone :)

  • @RanInt
    @RanInt 2 года назад +2

    I just recently visited cedar point and it was the best 2 days of my life. You got me into coasters and are solely responsible for the best time of my life. Thank you.

  • @bilderkin4799
    @bilderkin4799 2 года назад +139

    one thing these videos always miss is for some reason he never tells what a block zone is. I mean would it be that difficult to tell us.

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  2 года назад +68

      my bad! I always forget!

    • @lundthedoggaming8716
      @lundthedoggaming8716 2 года назад +12

      Maybe we could have an entire video on it?

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 2 года назад +19

      He does explain it it this video and all the other problematic roller coaster videos as well. It is simply a section of track that only one train can occupy at a time and features a way to prevent a train from rolling into the next block zone. A coaster must have at least one more block zone than the number of trains it runs.

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  2 года назад +26

      @@bearclaw5115 it’s a what?

    • @JakeBrickmobile
      @JakeBrickmobile 2 года назад +33

      @@ElToroRyan for those of you who are unfamiliar, a block zone is a section of ride that only one train my occupy. At the END of a block zone is a method to stop a train in case the block zone ahead is still occupied. This is the safety system that prevents rollercoaster trains from colliding with one another.

  • @teamfgbc
    @teamfgbc 2 года назад +8

    Wow. First time finding this channel and it’s a gem. I don’t know if I’ll be able to ride many coasters anymore due to surgeries but this is helping me miss it less and indulging my nerd side. Thank you so much, and incredibly incredibly well done!!

  • @taitondeboer366
    @taitondeboer366 2 года назад +58

    As an ex employee that use to operate this ride, our dispatch times were 40 seconds. It’s extremely difficult especially when guests are not paying attention. We only say “do not pull down the orange lap bar” about eight times every cycle. Another flaw with the ride that nobody knows except for the operators is the transfer table. Steel Vengeance uses the same transfer table that mean streak used. The pins on either side of the track fail to lock on a daily basis causing downtime when we have to transfer off/on a train. Interesting fact, all 3 trains are different even past the colors and names. Chess (the gold train) has 2 steel balls under the dome while the other 2 trains have the rods connecting it. Just something to notice on your next visit. Notice I said ex employee. If a phone makes it to the platform, it is a fireable offense. Metal detection isn’t always 100% accurate especially when the wands we use are sometimes defective. As a first year operator, this was not mentioned in the training. There are 11 signs outside and in the queue saying “no loose articles allowed. Please place EVERYTHING into a FREE locker in line. The entrance employee repeats no bags in line over and over again but people still fail to listen. It’s frustrating. As a PSA, please just follow the directions. It makes our job and operations faster meaning shorter lines and happy employees.

    • @ToomanyFrancis
      @ToomanyFrancis 2 года назад +13

      You were fired cause somebody got a phone past the metal detectors? How are you supposed to catch that, and how did they end up getting caught?

    • @taitondeboer366
      @taitondeboer366 2 года назад +13

      @@ToomanyFrancis The guest had their phone tucked behind a big belt buckle. We can’t do pat downs so how was I supposed to check? The guest pulled out their phone on the platform and my supervisor traced it back to my metal detector.

    • @robertoXCX
      @robertoXCX 2 года назад +3

      So you can't even have your phone on your person, securely zipped into a pants pocket on this ride?

    • @ToomanyFrancis
      @ToomanyFrancis 2 года назад +4

      @@taitondeboer366 Are you supposed to ask people to remove belts or something? Seems bizarre to blame the ops for that.

    • @taitondeboer366
      @taitondeboer366 2 года назад +2

      The rule was if it couldn’t flutter like a piece of paper you couldn’t have it with you even with Velcro, zippers, or buttons

  • @itsrobloxhere
    @itsrobloxhere Год назад +2

    truly the most coaster of all time, i love when it went "it's steel vengeancing time" and steel vengeances you. out of a scale of 1 to 10, i would give it one of those numbers.

    • @Celatra
      @Celatra Год назад +1

      truly the most comment of all time

  • @jricedrums
    @jricedrums 2 года назад +4

    This video is amazing! I learned so much! I’m glad the capacity has gotten better over the years! The Problematic Coaster series is the best coaster content on RUclips!

  • @theunhappygamer8192
    @theunhappygamer8192 2 года назад +2

    I really appreciate these kind of videos. I'm enrolling into school next spring to become a mechanical engineer so I can design coasters. Your videos are very informative and talk about all failures a ride has had. I hope you keep these up cause they're a great watch!

  • @reiemg
    @reiemg 2 года назад +5

    INCREDIBLE video Ryan, truly amazed to see the growth this channel has seen over the past couple years. The work you put into this channel has always wowed me. I've been here since around 10k. Keep up the amazing work man.

  • @robertkuhn5461
    @robertkuhn5461 2 года назад +2

    As a fellow engineer, I absolutely love your breakdowns and I think this was the best one yet. Your videos really do provide amazing insight into the inner workings of these rides, and are so different than any other coaster channel. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @MrPopsfreshnmyer
    @MrPopsfreshnmyer 2 года назад +4

    Appreciation and respect for all of the work you put into making this, Ryan.

  • @neilsmith9066
    @neilsmith9066 2 года назад

    Best Coaster in the World!!!! Thank You Cedar Point!!! Mean Streak was Awesome back in the day too!!!! Magnum still my fav!!!

  • @DeadRabbit5
    @DeadRabbit5 2 года назад +7

    Loved the video, these are my favorite videos that you do. Probably because I'm a structural engineer, so I like any good engineering case study, but one's about roller coasters? Perfection! I had no idea SteVe had these issues in its first few years, that really explains why CF has been reluctant to work with them ever since. Hopefully CF and RMC patch things up in the near future.

  • @truthsayers8725
    @truthsayers8725 Год назад

    my daughter worked at CP in the summer of '21 and was on SteVe. she LOVED the job and even though it was long hours, she was proud of the work she and her team did to get the interval as high as they were able to. she went back to college to finish her degree and didnt work in '22 because she had a degree related job she liked and which was more beneficial but she has expressed an interest in going back to CP and trying to work her way up the chain of command ladder. she's a genius and has great people skills to go with the brains.
    im forwarding this video to her and im sure, we will have a long discussion about all of it. she is a blessing.
    thanks for the video. it was super

  • @coasterconquistador2517
    @coasterconquistador2517 2 года назад +50

    I love this series. Steel Vengeance is my number one overall, and I’ve been on Lightning Rod and Velocicoaster. I still have yet to get on Iron Gwazi, so I’m interested to see how they compare.

    • @LeafHasLeft
      @LeafHasLeft 2 года назад +1

      been on both with me actually riding SteVe after IG but I will give the edge to IG. Its just so much more of a hard hitter. I think I found myself a little underwhelmed with SV when I was hyped for it and ready to be one of the few to ride it after IG.

    • @coasterconquistador2517
      @coasterconquistador2517 2 года назад +1

      @@LeafHasLeft I completely understand. When I first got went on Steve I was a bit underwhelmed but it has grown on me quite a bit. It’s awesome that you’ve been on both.

    • @matthenekk
      @matthenekk 2 года назад +2

      Time Traveler beats it for me in a much different way. You need to try that one too one day.

    • @LeafHasLeft
      @LeafHasLeft 2 года назад +1

      @@matthenekk I've wanted to ride one of Mack's xtreme spinning coasters

    • @coasterconquistador2517
      @coasterconquistador2517 2 года назад +1

      Same. Time Traveller and Ride to Happiness both look awesome. I completely understand why someone may prefer them to an RMC.

  • @greghaus
    @greghaus 2 года назад

    I just experienced "Steel Vengeance" again on August 16th & 18th of 2022, and the operations were incredible, easily the best of any popular ride I had at the 10 parks I visited this summer. The trains & queue up to the station were always filled, despite the metal detectors, and the operators were efficient and really fun. Trains were dispatched at 60 to 80 second intervals, compared to 3 to 5 minutes on "Iron Gwazi" at Busch Gardens Tampa. It even beat the operations on "Pantheon", although I personally blame rider ignorance more than the staff at Busch Gardens. This was a really great video, El Toro Ryan. Well done!

  • @ElijahPalm1792
    @ElijahPalm1792 2 года назад +5

    LETS GOOOOOOO PROBLEMATIC COASTERS

  • @money200476
    @money200476 Год назад

    honestly i walked into this going 50minutes! thats way to long, then the video ended and i was very happy. I just kept watching!!

  • @Camcod10
    @Camcod10 2 года назад +6

    ryan really just treating us with the block zone spiel 6 mins in…

  • @kevinquist
    @kevinquist Год назад

    I havent been to cedar point in 31 years. dont even know if I can still ride roller coasters anymore due to back issues, now. Love watching your stuff ElToroRyan. you do and amazing job.

  • @jackattack5928
    @jackattack5928 2 года назад +12

    Hats off to you Ryan for putting force diagrams and magnetic field diagrams in a 52 minute roller coaster video. Lean into the engineering

  • @scottboyer2391
    @scottboyer2391 2 года назад +11

    Continue to get "carried away" in the future with this series. Stellar work.

  • @CincyRaz
    @CincyRaz 3 месяца назад +1

    Flying Dinosaur in Universal Studios Japan has those free lockers right before you board the train. They give you a receipt with a QR code to access the locker. It super easy and I hope this system spreads to US parks.

  • @freyak5401
    @freyak5401 2 года назад +12

    I really think this coaster is such a success story. From a problematic wooden coaster in the back of the park to a world class ride runnining in tip top shape. I rode it back in 2018 and could really see all these issues coming together. It's so cool to see how they addressed each one, even amidst the craziness that was the last few years

  • @bloomins8088
    @bloomins8088 Год назад

    Thank you for allowing me to enjoy roller coaster content into adulthood. I remember watching shows on Discovery Channel about roller coasters and how they were made.

  • @maddierose7938
    @maddierose7938 2 года назад +11

    Your attention to detail on roller coasters is absolutely amazing. I have learned so much watching these videos and it gives me more appreciation for them. The amount of research you do is just surprising. You notice things that no one else does. I very much enjoyed this video. Keep up the great work!!

  • @UltraMagaFan
    @UltraMagaFan 2 года назад

    My old RUclips account got terminated and I forgot about this channel. I’m glad I found it again. I love these problematic coaster videos.

  • @bryngrey11
    @bryngrey11 2 года назад +10

    I've never been happier about having waited until 2021 to ride SV. It's so interesting to hear all of this background info and how hard they've worked to maintain and improve the efficiency of the attraction.

  • @PFMediaServices
    @PFMediaServices 2 года назад

    Thanks for giving me the opportunity to provide captions. It was great working with you! 😁🍍

  • @CoasterCollege
    @CoasterCollege 2 года назад +3

    Not the Iron Poggers lagoon foggers reference.

  • @Handles508
    @Handles508 10 месяцев назад

    This is the only ride that has ever made me grab the bar. I have rode every coaster at Cedar Point many times. Even Valraven when sitting in the front car and hanging vertical over the first drop is no problem. As soon as I hit the first twist on Steel Vengeance the g-force was so great I couldnt help but to reach for the bar. It is an amazing roll coaster.

  • @OriginalJoe
    @OriginalJoe 2 года назад +8

    A true 2-for-1 - block zone diagrams of Mean Streak and Steel Vengeance!
    Seriously - huge amounts of great information. Thanks for doing this one.

    • @bradarmstrong6392
      @bradarmstrong6392 2 года назад +1

      I was only disappointed he didn't go through the block zone speech twice.

  • @Eraste418
    @Eraste418 Год назад

    I (hopefully) get to ride this for the first time, this June 2023, going to Cedar Point for the first time. Great video. Didn't even realize the video was so long by the time it ended. Great stuff!

  • @johnepants
    @johnepants 2 года назад +7

    I remember visiting in the summer of 2016 and seeing the markings on the footers before any announcement of the ride closure was made. The excitement of knowing something big was about to happen but not sure what it would be yet was huge

  • @Puffo__
    @Puffo__ 2 года назад +1

    This is legitimately one of the best roller coaster videos I've ever watched, amazing job once again Ryan!

  • @jonahzdonut4117
    @jonahzdonut4117 2 года назад +4

    Bro I swear if he explains what a block zone one more time… but I’m joking great vid

  • @GrottiCrimeFamilyHD
    @GrottiCrimeFamilyHD Год назад

    11 Months later and still a Banger :)

  • @AttractionSource
    @AttractionSource 2 года назад +7

    May as well be a full blown documentary. GREAT job Ryan!

  • @brendanmeckler7761
    @brendanmeckler7761 2 месяца назад +1

    I was a ride op for SV in '19, our target was 45 seconds per dispatch, and we did hit 1000 riders in an hour often, it just really depends who works what position

  • @coaster420
    @coaster420 2 года назад +24

    Masterclass work. This is some unrivaled territory and I'm all here for it.
    Congrats on genuinely being the best at your craft, Ryan. I can't imagine anyone would disagree with me.

  • @Biosynthnut
    @Biosynthnut 11 месяцев назад

    I rode this opening year during Halloween, and last summer 2022. It's amazing how the little things change on a ride.

  • @samuelzackrisson8865
    @samuelzackrisson8865 2 года назад +15

    even if i haven't ridden it i can tell you that steel vengence truly is one of the roller coasters ever bulit

  • @michaeltaylor1603
    @michaeltaylor1603 2 года назад +1

    Didn't mind the video length. As a former ride operator of many flat rides & coasters, I know about through put. You also get to know and respect the maintenance crew well. You may also get to know the designer/builder. I used to build working model roller coasters that were loaded onto a low boy trailer to an event 200 + miles away from Houston, TX. They not only had to hold up to the rigors of small to teenage kids (the chain lift was hand cranked) Also the model was on heavy casters with lifts over 12 feet high! That had to take stress of wind load, roadway oscillation, pot holes, rain & bugs! Still had to work once it got to the venue. I truly had to find ways to "over build" the models which were of the "tubular steel" variety.

  • @JJJJ-he8bz
    @JJJJ-he8bz 2 года назад +7

    I know there had to be a downside to this coaster I’ve never seen 40 feet added to a coaster in this way that is some roller coaster tycoon stuff I wind shocked when it was announced at 200 feet. I remember standing in line looking at that structure thinking to myself I can’t believe this is freaking mean streak

    • @squillz8310
      @squillz8310 2 года назад

      I haven't been to CP in a while, so I'm sure I'll feel the same way whenever I make it back lol

  • @pooryorick831
    @pooryorick831 Год назад

    I haven't been to Cedar point in a while so there are a lot I haven't rode. The Magnum was unlike anything I had ever been on before. Even though it is older now, I bet it is still just as fun as it was in the 1990s. I wish I could still ride. Physical issues make it impossible to for me to ride. So I glad there are POV videos that allow me to sort of enjoy them. 👍🏻

  • @sitfish1113
    @sitfish1113 Год назад +6

    I went on steel vengeance last summer and it became my favorite coaster instantly. Theres never a dull moment and the absolute chaos of flying around inside the wooden structure feels amazing. Absolutely worth the 2 hour wait

  • @hexzii8250
    @hexzii8250 2 года назад

    The format of these videos is just great. I go into then thinking I’ll just watch them later yet I always ends up watching them all the way through. Great video!

  • @C3mvp
    @C3mvp 2 года назад +35

    I was just at CP last week, and operations was flying. I had gone last year and didn't remember them dispatching those trains so quick. I was super impressed with how smooth the operators were working. It felt like the SteVe line just constantly moving because of how quickly they were dispatching. Maverick on the otherhand... that was having a rough day. Was down much of the day and when it was open, it was operating at a snail's pace with constant double stacking (or quad stacking in Mav's case) of the trains.

    • @miotch8225
      @miotch8225 2 года назад +1

      I've been to CP a bunch times and that was the first thing I noticed compared to my home park, Canada's Wonderland. With 3 trains on many coasters, the line is always moving. Even if it was an hour+ wait, it didn't always feel like it because we're constantly moving up the line. Gives you the feeling like we were progressing lol. Unfortunately maverick (and Dragster) don't seem to have the same benefit. I've actually left the line on maverick because slow moving line and multiple shut downs

    • @Og.quizzes
      @Og.quizzes 2 года назад +1

      I’ve been going to CP for years, and the maverick has always had one of the longest wait times no matter when i went.

    • @C3mvp
      @C3mvp 2 года назад +1

      @@Og.quizzes So i always fast pass at CP beacuse I only go at most once in a year. Last year Maverick was a walk on with fast pass. This year it was like 30-40 min wait. Both trips were on weekends, late summer, similar weather. Admittely, CP crowds may have been down last year and this was also like right after TTD accident too.

    • @ayanadixon4763
      @ayanadixon4763 2 года назад +2

      @@Og.quizzes You need to go the Wednesday or Thursday after most of Ohio's schools start. Just about every coaster is a walk-on, and we got to ride SV twice without needing Fast Pass.

    • @gocelotspice5766
      @gocelotspice5766 Год назад

      The maverick was a huge disappointment to me, we had to wait so long and it wasn’t all that.

  • @ayjay.8176
    @ayjay.8176 Год назад

    I'm not much of a thrill-seeker like my friends and family, and I'm definitely not an engineer... but I cannot stop watching these videos. It's pretty fascinating.

  • @mulinhuan8410
    @mulinhuan8410 2 года назад +21

    Yay another great PRC episode! Just finished watching and it's just as awesome as the ride itself! Thanks for using my footage Ryan!
    I definitely miss the days when Vengeance was an early entry attraction though, that means everyone runs to it while I marathon Millennium with the magic gate open ;)

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  2 года назад +4

      Thanks Dr Hershey! Lol I’ll always love that nickname. And thanks for letting me use your amazing footage!

    • @visionist7
      @visionist7 2 года назад +1

      Imagine if PRC was a coaster manufacturer

  • @daveinthewildOG
    @daveinthewildOG 11 месяцев назад

    Mean Streak wrecked my back. It was one of the roughest rollercoaster I ever rode. I was glad to see it upgraded.

  • @darrenrice8742
    @darrenrice8742 2 года назад +7

    The knowledge, flow, and attention to detail is on another level. Kept my attention the whole time. Well done Ryan. Thank you. My wife and I rode this ride the first summer it came out in 1991. It was awesome. When we were in line we could see the way it moves and shakes. My wife was concered and a carpenter near us heard her (and I quote) said "If it dont shake, it will break." :)
    On a side note we went back 2 years later to ride it again and it beat the shit out of us. We never rode it again. Good to see they are doing their best to keep it going, because it was fun.

  • @jamesvalek7988
    @jamesvalek7988 2 года назад

    Was not expecting to see Hercules get a shout out on here! As a Dorney Park native, I'd love to see more videos on that forgotten legend.

  • @Bothomas-vm5hz
    @Bothomas-vm5hz 2 года назад +5

    your videos are way better than shows on discovery channel i really like your documentaries you make and they are easy to understand also your videos are very educational to people with little to no knowledge in physics and roller coaster fundamental aspects. definitely a big thumbs up on your channel

  • @chubbbubb6870
    @chubbbubb6870 Год назад

    I had heard mention that Steel Vengeance had some issues. Now i fully understand the scope of what those problems were and what it took to correct them. This was a genuinely fascinating video on both the ride and its predecessor. Well done sir.

  • @Aliceintraining
    @Aliceintraining 2 года назад +3

    oh no, on the same day you upload, eltoro has another incident. and it sounds like the same problem that you covered from early last year. anyway, great video overall.

  • @catalystomega6773
    @catalystomega6773 2 года назад

    Fun fact I learned when in line to ride Steel Vengeance from a ride attendant was that some track pieces were so bizarre, they didnt match any existing track piece type, and were just labeled "MS"

  • @ckilbarger01
    @ckilbarger01 2 года назад +14

    I'm a high school teacher in Ohio. There was a group going on a big reward field trip to Cedar Point and I had a chance to use some of my knowledge from this video when talking about why so many rides in Cedar Point don't have personal possession bins! I felt very smart that day!

  • @davidwillard8908
    @davidwillard8908 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Thanks for explaining all of the considerations that go into the ride. We live local. Went to the same winter preview and rode Steel Vengence twice at the passholder preview event. But we did t get back to it until this past weekend. Definitely an intense experience. Thanks for explaining all of the changes over the years.

  • @Faulty720
    @Faulty720 Год назад +4

    Drink every time he says "roller coaster"

    • @renaynay18
      @renaynay18 5 месяцев назад

      I'd be fucked up in 10-15 minutes tops lmao

  • @Nick_Shank
    @Nick_Shank 2 года назад

    Considering I just got back from my first trip to Cedar Point this was an awesome video to see on my feed. Keep it up Ryan!

  • @natechenry
    @natechenry 2 года назад +3

    Rode this twice this past Friday, my first time at cedar point. I passed out 6 times the first time. However that’s why I love rides like this, the intensity, the adrenaline. I went on it again without passing Out but still in shock! I was scared at first of these rides but as I began with Gatekeeper which is one of the smoothest rides there imo, I realized how much I enjoyed these rides no matter the height. I would say Steel Vengeance, Millennium Force, Maverick are the top 3, gatekeeper is awesome for those wanting to work their way up to the bigger rides because that’s my tip. Start out with the smaller rides. The worst part of the rides and the best is the beginning of them, the drop but if you can keep your eyes open at the drop you’re good for the whole thing. It’s fun.

  • @kingubu23
    @kingubu23 Год назад

    I have to say, i love watching this channel cause i now have a different view on all roller coasters now. I am a coaster lovers and will always be one but knowing what i know now from watching this channel i am glad i have a heart problem that doesn't let me ride stuff like this anymore. I am in my mid 30s but when i was younger i was careless then everything changes once something life changing happens and your mind set changes to what was once not scary is now. Still love watching them tho.

  • @rhysg9722
    @rhysg9722 Год назад +4

    I don't think you got carried away with this one at all. Just like Steel Vengeance, this video had good pacing and plenty of fun twists. I don't even ride roller coasters (haha I cried on The Grizzly as a kid and have stayed away since then), but I find your content to be super enjoyable and engaging no matter if it nears an hour long or is short and sweet. Keep doing what you're doing, my guy 😁

  • @joannewilson1162
    @joannewilson1162 Год назад

    I love cedar point and always have. Mean streak was a good ride. It was the only one to give me a headache but I still loved it. But steel vengeance is honestly the best ride at cedar point. It is just incredible.

  • @BluesCoasters
    @BluesCoasters 2 года назад +4

    Another incredible one by Ryan! I would love to see one on Lightning Rod.

  • @dannyhopkins2329
    @dannyhopkins2329 Год назад

    I dream.. no manifest of meeting this man at Cedar Point or Great Adventure 🤣🤣 Best park review channel by far. I missed him by one day when they all came to my home park Discovery Kingdom lol

  • @minerva9843
    @minerva9843 2 года назад +6

    I have been visiting CP since the early 90's. Mean Streak was always known as a headache inducer. I only rode it once in 94 knowing I would only ride it once. It was terrible. Its names, both former and current, are incredibly accurate.

    • @nicholasfield6127
      @nicholasfield6127 2 года назад

      I loved mean steak and rode it almost every day when I worked there in 2013

    • @neilsmith9066
      @neilsmith9066 2 года назад +1

      It had its moments especially for us going since the 80s!

  • @Cccoast
    @Cccoast Год назад

    With my baby being closed… I guess I mussstt visit Cedar Point in 2023… haven’t visited since 2019! This definitely is motivating me!

  • @cedarflags
    @cedarflags 2 года назад +3

    6:35 AHH HE SAID IT. HE SAID IT

  • @nanosum1
    @nanosum1 2 года назад +1

    Always love your Problematic Roller Coasters series Ryan. Hope that you've been doing well

  • @armandtanguay5602
    @armandtanguay5602 2 года назад +5

    I LOVE this series

  • @cbjueueiwyru7472
    @cbjueueiwyru7472 3 месяца назад

    Steel vengeance is the only roller coaster I've ever ridden that legit made me feel like the ride could break at any second

  • @Muswell
    @Muswell 13 дней назад

    "It forced people to talk to each other like it was the 1990s". . Lol.

  • @brianreber8842
    @brianreber8842 10 месяцев назад

    Excellent job on this video! I just rode Steel Vengeance 10/27/23 on the last 75° day for Halloweekends. Great ride, one of my favorites at 60 years old! (Me, not the coaster!) Lol!😂

  • @BESmith-ms8zm
    @BESmith-ms8zm 2 года назад

    Your videos on these sorts of topics are so good. I appreciate you making them. I've been endlessly fascinated with the physics and engineering of roller coasters since my first one (SFGAm's Viper in 06) and I appreciate you explaining this coaster in a way that even a moron like me can understand. Good on you