I just want to say, thank you for uploading this. I'm moving to a place with a trap field 20 minutes away, want to learn, and it's nice to see a raw video like this with nothing fancy, just a full round played with no cuts or wild camera angles. Gives me a good feeling for how the rhythm and pace of a round typically is.
Thanks for watching! That guy is me and it's pretty common to rest your barrel on your toe if you shoot a break open gun like I have. They actually make toe tabs so you don't get rings and soot on your shoes. Any other gun than a break open and I'll agree with you 100%, but with the breach open, and the shell primer totally removed from the action, there's no practical way the gun could discharge in that position . It is the golden rule in shooting, and for that I thank you for bringing it up.
Good shooting. I just started about two years ago at my local club. A fellow by the name of Neal Crausbay has been giving me some pointers along the way.
Matt, I totally agree with you (how can anyone argue with Dan Carlisle?) but a couple of things of note. 1. It's compressed video, so we're shooting faster than we were in real life. 2. For new shooters, I agree with Phil Kiner on the subject of speed. Speed is not the desired result but the end result of good technique. Good technique includes good target acquisition, and a nice smooth, economical move to the bird. In other words, desire to use good fundamentals and let the shot cadence be dictated by that.
Good call, I see some people trying too hard to shoot the bird faster just for the sake of looking fast. You can win the race but still lose the war. By the way, how'd you get the targets to show up so well? I was a told a neutral density filter should help on sunnier days. I've uploaded a few vids on my channel of me shooting at local ATA shoots and the targets are barely visible. I'm using a GoPro Hero 3 White Edition in 720p 30 FPS.
This is probably one of the best videos made of true trap shooting. The quality is so good in some shots you can even see the wadding flying through the air. On a side note excellent shooting fellas.
Walman 16. So how would the rotation go if there was just 3 people. We take up the frist 3 spots to the left and we shoot 5 times at each station. Once first rotation is complete, everyone shifts over to the right until we shoot 25 times each?
@Crich It's perfectly acceptable to close your breach prior to the other shooter taking a shot. That shooter you are referring to is me and I have shot competition for over 20 years. It is advisable however if you are a new shooter, to wait till it's your turn to close your gun.
I use to work for the AMA when I was younger. They did 2 events in Dayton OH. I worked in the shell house and as a trap loader. Those things were old too. Some made in the 1940's . It's been shut down for several years now.
I guess i've been doing it wrong, i pull in the ready position muzzle pointing down and when the skeet goes flying off then i aim and fire. but i guess you aim in the area before the skeet fly's off?
All adjustable combs work the same way. The more you raise your comb, the higher the gun will shoot. My advice would be to make minor adjustments up or down until the gun shoots where you look. When I make any kind of adjustment, it's small and I mean like millimeters, then I'll shoot at least 50 shells through it. By the way the target breaks, I can then figure out if I need to raise or lower the comb and then I'll make another small adjustment. Hope this helps!
Yes. Though you can't shoot anything larger than 12 gauge, there is no rule prohibiting you from shooting down to .410. All the competition American Trapshooters I know shoot 12 gauge however.....
When you have a bunch of experienced shooters on the line, you get a rhythm where every person only takes like 2 seconds to shoot. It really helps the flow of things, and I find I shoot better in that kind of setup.
I just started shooting trap about 1 month ago and I love it. Still have a lot to learn and need to practice a lot but i am determined that one of these days my nick name will be Annie Oakley.
@Magnum4554 When you start a round, it's always the person that's the furthest left that begins the round, then when you rotate positions, that person always starts it off and so it goes till everyone shoots 25. Hope that helps!
@Magnum4554 Where I go there's 5 spots per station. You just pay them and they tell you what station you're going to and that they'll call you when the current station is done with their 25 rounds, then it's up to your group who goes when.
my Husband & I are new to trap shooting. we really enjoy it and are currently in the waiting period to pick up our own guns :) I have searched the net for this answer. it might seem unimportant but it bugging me :P when I watch pro trap or skeet the shooters 99.99% of the time powder the target however standard every day people shooting clays it never powders in the same way always just breaks apart what is different?
They use clays with powder in them so it's easily seen by th officials. Regular clays just break unless you "powder" thm in which you get a majority of your shot on it.
Kar Cam I used to date a girl I have been shooting trap for around twenty years at the time. She wanted to get into it. But she just couldn't pass the hunter education course. So instead of helping her study for it I just told her it would be best if you work the concession stand serving food and beverages. I also told her that is where a woman belongs anyway. She left me after that best thing that could happen to me.
The reason I posted this video was to show an actual round of American Trap. Too many video's on RUclips of people shooting clay targets from a spring or hand thrower, which is all fun, but not trap. I thought it was time to just show a round of trap.....that's why I named the video Real Trapshooting. Thanks for watching!
I dont know a single club that doesnt. I shot a Model 12 competitively for about 4 seasons and did really well with it. The man shooting on post 4 at the beginning is shooting that very gun.....good luck! Shoot to win!
would you guys be able to make a trap shooting video on technique and how the rotation works where you walk and how. im joining a neighboring schools trap team in march and would like to know watt im doing and not look like a foul
Roland Kee I shoot a semi. A Beretta Outlander. No problem. I did put a shell catcher on it though, to not hit the guy next to me and also so I don't have to pick up em up.
***** I think it might not trigger it because I (and most shooters) close the action immediately on the report of the previous shooter. There is a delay after the pull or else the report of the shotguns would launch another bird. One of the places is about 3 miles away, I'm a member there. All the others are about 30 to 40 minutes away. I'm a member at one of those too. They all are open to the public for trap certain days and times. There's another club near me but it's not open to the public for trap and I can't justify joining another club and I really like the one that's 30 min. away.
Shot skeet for the first time today. First time I have ever shot anything other than a .22 at pop cans. And first round got a 12, and the second i got 19. And I now am in love with the sport.
in NZ you are able to have a live shell in the breach of your gun(while shooting DTL) (o/u). yes your are right with a semi-auto but unfortunately incorrect with U/O
Hello walman16, realizing that the group in this video were all veteran trap shooters, out of curiosity, can you recall if all were using release triggers? Thank you so much for this!
Oh geez, this was in 2009. Only one of those guys I’m not 100% sure about but the rest of us shoot pull triggers. Thank goodness I never had to go to a release.....yet
@@walman16 Thank you for the response. If you had said "yes" I would have felt compelled to send mine out for conversion (even though I don't flinch..yet). I hope you realize how many of us your video inspire. God bless!
You took the words right out of my mouth. I personally like to say pull really drawn out, some guys make fun of me for doing it that way, but it works for me lol.
I'll agree with you in one respect, it's a lot of bucks for a stock. I had one for several years when I shot my Kreighoff. One thing I did like was the recoil reducer. I didn't care much for the comb that it came with or the Ultimate Fit comb I put on it. I know people that swear by them though.
Nice to see a clean line but the guy not picking up his spent shells is annoying, why not just pull the spent shell like the rest and put into a pouch like the rest ?
That's quite the shooting pace. I'll be shooting my first trap day ever next weekend, my only shotgun is an 870 Express, and I'll be asking before the shoot about things like loading the magazine for a round vs. single loading (which would surely slow me down, I'm not an experienced shotgun shooter, even though I've seen it done on film at remarkable speed). I've shot skeet once, two rounds, broke one target; hopefully I'll do better at trap with all the targets going more or less away from me and no doubles to worry about. Edit: Okay, found a good page on trap, single loading only unless shooting doubles (I won't be doing that until I can hit 20+ in a round of singles, though I might try wobble trap sooner). I need to get one of those from-the-box pouches, then...
And just realized I'd been conflating members' trap practice with open-to-public skeet shoot days -- I'll be shooting skeet, not trap. Best get my shucking up to speed...
It sounds like the guys on the ends are calling "fire" while the guys in the middle are calling "pull." Is that correct and, if so, why call it that way?
Who is that second guy? Tell him to pick up those shells, he has to break open every time and instead of catching the shell he even aims for it to get as far as possible. Get a vest and put them away.
J.Carlos Silvestre Thats me. I policed them after. I don’t wear a vest, but I do have a shell bag. Was down visiting my folks and forgot it. As for aiming them far away, yep. Don’t want my fellow shooters standing on empty hulls trying to shoot.
You move to the right to shoot the next station. If you just shot station 5 and still have other stations to complete, then you move to station 1, then 2, soforth until you've completed all 5 stations.
I have choke tubes, but you might as well weld a full choke in my gun as I use it for everything expect first shot in doubles. My choice of tubes for singles (what I'm shooting here) is not the norm though. A lot of shooters use light full, improved modified, improved cylinder for singles. Earlier in my career I messed around with choke tubes and patterning but found eliminating that variable helped my mental performance more than any gains choke tubes could provide, but do what works best 4 U!
Haha clay Floyd aka big daddy $tarbucks! I'm very fortunate to live 3 minutes from NCCR Tuesday night shoots are awesome there there is alot of great people that shoot there I've been going for years and will always be my favorite place to shoot :) ~Jason Harrington~
Trap shooting is the best!! Last time I went to the gun range I got to shoot these really cool assault rifles at a stationary target. It was cool but I was like, "Okay where's the trap? I like shotguns better." :) Nothing beats a shotgun. Except maybe a paintball gun. LOL
hey, can you show me the terrain? i like it, and i have like the same plase and view in my country, and i am interrested to make the same designe as yours. thx and nice video ;)
Good video. I'd like to start shooting trap, but it seems like you just can't go to a place and practice like you can with a handgun. Every place near me just has matches, so I'd be like joining this group and totally messing up the rhythm.
einfussganger Every club I've ever shot at has practice hours and usually but not always they are open to the general public. Do a little investigating and I'll bet you'll find a place to shoot...:)
Yep, you were right. I found a place that doesn't shoot registered events, so it's all for fun. Shot with my son (just the two of us) for a few rounds and then joined a group of regulars who were looking to fill out a five squad. Everyone was very nice and helpful. Found my new favorite thing!
The game you're viewing is Singles and you are correct, of the three American Trap events, Singles is the easiest in one respect, but the mental aspect of Singles is very challenging. You have to be perfect usually through 200 shots to make a shootoff and then another 200 to win. Hard part about Skeet is shooting smaller gauges. For me, ( I'm not trying to start a war with a bunch of pantyhose wearing Skeet shooters), 12 gauge Skeet is a cake walk. Learn the leads, there's no variables...
Everything a serious shooter does has a purpose. When you call "pull" you have to move your mouth which could disrupt your sight picture, especially when you cheek the gun hard like me. It also serves the purpose of providing a uniform noise to the mic.
Hi Joe, Thanks for watching! I appreciate the compliments! Just so you know, this is American Trap, not Bunker, so the house is of regulation height for American Trap. Secondly, I forgot my shell catcher but rest assured I policed my empties and disposed of them properly after this video was taken but good point. Shouldnt leave this stuff on the ground. Shoot to win! Allen
First trap day coming up for me, and since I'll be shooting my own reloads, I hope to be able to collect my empties to use the hulls again (given the hull is about 30-40% of the cost of a birdshot reload in 2023).
@@SilntObsvr just remember to take a pouch for your empties. I forgot mine that day but it’s a small club so I policed mine after shooting. I dont reload any more. Cost of lead went through the roof!
@@walman16 I had a carpenter's nail belt that had room for a box of shells in one side and all the empties in the other, but I couldn't find it (nor my electronic muffs) so I bought one that's made specifically for shotgun sports; one section exactly fits a full box of 2 3/4 shells, the other will hold (they claim) up to 50 empty hulls. Price of lead may be high, but... At 15 cents for a primed hull (all plastic, I'll probably get half a dozen reloads out of each), 2 1/2 to 3 cents a wad (Claybusters and Ballistic Products clone wads), $65 for 25 lb of reclaimed shot (roundly 13 shells to the pound for 1 1/8 ounce loads so twenty cents for the shot), and 15+ grains of powder ($40/lb, that's about 8 1/2 cents per shell), I figure my per-shell cost for loading my own at around 47 cents a shell -- with target loads running $10 a box, I'm not saving anything, but you can't always find them at $10/box -- and every time I reload a box of shells, the cost for each shot drops a little. Primers by the 1000 are about 6 cents, so that brings my load cost down to just about the same as Estate or Fiocchi target loads. And I can cast slugs, buckshot, or punkin balls for a couple bucks a pound (plus shipping, but I can get 25 lb of ingots shipped for under $15), once I have the molds; that makes it cheaper to shoot slugs or buckshot (that I have molds for) than birdshot.
I guess you need to read the rules again ;) I just give you a hint. Skeet and Trap are two completely different disciplines, so they also have other rules. I would say, come to a ISSF trap event, and shoot the gun unmounted on your shoulder. That would be your first and last try to shoot trap at that event.. So next time you want to sound like a pro, read the rules!
They are probably ok. You'll want to check your local regulations for shot size limits and max powder loads but target loads probably wont exceed that. If you're hunting waterfowl, you will most likely be required to use steel shot.
No cheating here (don't know what you mean by camping but no one pitched a tent). The machine we're shooting targets from is set to ATA standards. Nothing easy about hitting a 4 5/16" inch clay disk flying from an oscillating machine with an interrupter travelling at 67 FPS. Compund that with the event we're shooting, 16 yards or singles where you essentially have to be perfect through at least 100 birds (some events are 200) to win. Come, shoot, and if you shoot with me, play the money!
i find those percision fit stock to be a waste of money. two days ago i used a perazzi with one on it and still dosent compare to my browning cynergy with ajustable stock/ comb..... cant go wrong with the basicd
If you watch the video, you'll see we only have 4, but the same rules apply if you have 5, 3, 2 or even one shooter. The leftmost shooter always starts the first round of 5, and once everyone is rotated, that shooter starts that next round of 5 and soforth until everyone has shot 5 shots at all 5 posts. Thanks for watching, hope that helps!
a LONG ass time. dont worry, its very common at your age and experience level to get that type of score. thats where everyone starts out. you will eventually find little tips and tricks to help you out. gun, yellow glasses, consistent ammo brand, ect. and pay a lot of attention to your posture and form as you shoot. makes a world of difference
At the start of the video, from left to right.....35" barrel, 40 thousandths full, 34" barrel, 35 thousandths full, (I'm guessing here on #3 but fairly sure) 34" barrel, Improved Modified, 30" barrel, 35 thousandths full. Thanks for watching!
2 2/4", 3 Dram, 1 1/8 oz. 7 1/2's or 8's. I shoot 7 1/2s for Singles but most shoot 8's. Either is fine. If you don't like the recoil, go down to 1 oz. loads.
A call is a personal thing. At the start of the video, guy on Post 1 (post most left) yells Keeeeahhh!, I'm next to him and yell Ahhhhhh!, Next to me calls Pull!, Guy on Post 4 is my dad and he's yelled Hoooowwwww! as long as I can remember. The reason I don't call pull is threefold. 1) I don't have to move my mouth and possibly disrupt my sight pattern, 2) It's a uniform noise that trips the machine in a consistent release and 3) Concentration. I don't have to worry about calling "pull"
Sorry, I've never even seen trap shooting before so this is new to me. I have though, shot skeet. Is this an easier version for guys that don't have the patience or marksmanship skills to shoot skeet? It just looks SO incredibly easy! Especially in comparison to skeet. Hell, I could do this with my .357!
Welcome to the sport!! It's a blast once you get into it! I've been taking co-workers and friends who's never been and let them shoot with me and they become addicted.
good vid but 2 little things first the trap is to high, the house needs to be at ground floor, second can you please put a bucket at each position to deposit the shells keep it up guys nice video indeed, i think i never saw a high quality trap shooting video like this before
Thanks for watching. This isn't my regular club but the terrain is mostly loamy soil with tall pines in the background. To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of the way this trap is laid out but it's only a small parcel of land so they made the most of it. I prefer skyline targets myself (no trees).
@@Jack-qt2qq was not anywhere near pointed at the sky. i have no problem with pumps or autos, but you see so many carried unsafely by idiots. why is it so hard to keep them pointed down.....you cant be too safe.
I just want to say, thank you for uploading this. I'm moving to a place with a trap field 20 minutes away, want to learn, and it's nice to see a raw video like this with nothing fancy, just a full round played with no cuts or wild camera angles. Gives me a good feeling for how the rhythm and pace of a round typically is.
TxdoHawk you bet! Hard to believe this was 12 years ago this Thanksgiving. Shoot to win! Allen
This video popped up 12 years later, and was glorious and soothing to watch and hear
A B Haha! Thanks for making my day. Appreciate the comment!
Bird visibility is excellent with the tree background....
Thanks for watching! That guy is me and it's pretty common to rest your barrel on your toe if you shoot a break open gun like I have. They actually make toe tabs so you don't get rings and soot on your shoes. Any other gun than a break open and I'll agree with you 100%, but with the breach open, and the shell primer totally removed from the action, there's no practical way the gun could discharge in that position . It is the golden rule in shooting, and for that I thank you for bringing it up.
25 chipped birds beats 24 "Smoked" ones any day. But there is a cool factor in totally smoking a clay.
Good shooting. I just started about two years ago at my local club. A fellow by the name of Neal Crausbay has been giving me some pointers along the way.
Robert R McBride thats great! Keep it up!
Nice video! I'm thinking about getting the new cz redhead. I am currently shooting a bt-99, any advice?
Matt, I totally agree with you (how can anyone argue with Dan Carlisle?) but a couple of things of note. 1. It's compressed video, so we're shooting faster than we were in real life. 2. For new shooters, I agree with Phil Kiner on the subject of speed. Speed is not the desired result but the end result of good technique. Good technique includes good target acquisition, and a nice smooth, economical move to the bird. In other words, desire to use good fundamentals and let the shot cadence be dictated by that.
Good call, I see some people trying too hard to shoot the bird faster just for the sake of looking fast. You can win the race but still lose the war.
By the way, how'd you get the targets to show up so well? I was a told a neutral density filter should help on sunnier days. I've uploaded a few vids on my channel of me shooting at local ATA shoots and the targets are barely visible. I'm using a GoPro Hero 3 White Edition in 720p 30 FPS.
great video..greater shooting. what choke are you using in the guns, ?
This is probably one of the best videos made of true trap shooting. The quality is so good in some shots you can even see the wadding flying through the air. On a side note excellent shooting fellas.
Thanks. I have a Berett Ulrika391 that has the Mobile Choke system. What choke do you recommend for the range of trap shooting?
When I stopped shooting in 1994 i was AA 27 A. I really enjoyed your posting. As you stated the majority of RUclips videos are if hand thrown clays .
Walman 16. So how would the rotation go if there was just 3 people. We take up the frist 3 spots to the left and we shoot 5 times at each station. Once first rotation is complete, everyone shifts over to the right until we shoot 25 times each?
Walman16 what choke and shot are you using
@Crich It's perfectly acceptable to close your breach prior to the other shooter taking a shot. That shooter you are referring to is me and I have shot competition for over 20 years. It is advisable however if you are a new shooter, to wait till it's your turn to close your gun.
You guys are awesome shots! Did the guy in the camo hat who started on the left shoot a straight?
Are you going to do any more trap shooting videos? , doubles, hanicap, guns, ammo ect ?
I use to work for the AMA when I was younger. They did 2 events in Dayton OH. I worked in the shell house and as a trap loader. Those things were old too. Some made in the 1940's .
It's been shut down for several years now.
I guess i've been doing it wrong, i pull in the ready position muzzle pointing down and when the skeet goes flying off then i aim and fire. but i guess you aim in the area before the skeet fly's off?
You'll want to start with your muzzle in a position that allows you to make a smooth, efficient move to the target.
All adjustable combs work the same way. The more you raise your comb, the higher the gun will shoot. My advice would be to make minor adjustments up or down until the gun shoots where you look. When I make any kind of adjustment, it's small and I mean like millimeters, then I'll shoot at least 50 shells through it. By the way the target breaks, I can then figure out if I need to raise or lower the comb and then I'll make another small adjustment. Hope this helps!
It's like 5-stand but it's 4 people. I wish our FFA shoots were like this. But we change positions after every shot, 1 shot in the gun at a time.
Yep, they are pretty cool. I had one on my other gun but like a wood stock better. They have a great recoil reduction system on them.
Yes. Though you can't shoot anything larger than 12 gauge, there is no rule prohibiting you from shooting down to .410. All the competition American Trapshooters I know shoot 12 gauge however.....
Very cool. The shooter who walked from 5 to 1 without his gun broken needs a gentle reminder.
He's shooting a pump gun.
Oh right. Thanks for pointing that out. Perhaps I should get glasses...
Haha, no worries mate!
You ain't kiddin'! Clays an amazing shot. Can focus like no one I've ever seen.....
When you have a bunch of experienced shooters on the line, you get a rhythm where every person only takes like 2 seconds to shoot. It really helps the flow of things, and I find I shoot better in that kind of setup.
ActuarialNinja yep
I just started shooting trap about 1 month ago and I love it. Still have a lot to learn and need to practice a lot but i am determined that one of these days my nick name will be Annie Oakley.
@Magnum4554 When you start a round, it's always the person that's the furthest left that begins the round, then when you rotate positions, that person always starts it off and so it goes till everyone shoots 25. Hope that helps!
It may be my first year shooting for my schools trap league, but im lucky to hit 25/50 pigeons. How long have these guys been doing this for?
@Magnum4554 Where I go there's 5 spots per station. You just pay them and they tell you what station you're going to and that they'll call you when the current station is done with their 25 rounds, then it's up to your group who goes when.
my Husband & I are new to trap shooting. we really enjoy it and are currently in the waiting period to pick up our own guns :)
I have searched the net for this answer. it might seem unimportant but it bugging me :P
when I watch pro trap or skeet the shooters 99.99% of the time powder the target however standard every day people shooting clays it never powders in the same way always just breaks apart what is different?
They use clays with powder in them so it's easily seen by th officials.
Regular clays just break unless you "powder" thm in which you get a majority of your shot on it.
Its the types of powder and choking systems and set up in there firearms which make a hell of a difference. cheers
I've still seen people dust rocks but for trap shooting it's pretty rare. Still the pro rounds have different clays they use.
+Kar Cam Its So officials in ISSF Events can relegate if it was a hit or miss.
Kar Cam I used to date a girl I have been shooting trap for around twenty years at the time. She wanted to get into it. But she just couldn't pass the hunter education course. So instead of helping her study for it I just told her it would be best if you work the concession stand serving food and beverages. I also told her that is where a woman belongs anyway. She left me after that best thing that could happen to me.
Pretty cool. I am in Norfolk, is this a private range?
The reason I posted this video was to show an actual round of American Trap. Too many video's on RUclips of people shooting clay targets from a spring or hand thrower, which is all fun, but not trap. I thought it was time to just show a round of trap.....that's why I named the video Real Trapshooting. Thanks for watching!
I dont know a single club that doesnt. I shot a Model 12 competitively for about 4 seasons and did really well with it. The man shooting on post 4 at the beginning is shooting that very gun.....good luck! Shoot to win!
Why are there no baskets for the empty shells?
gives the retired guys something to do when they are out of shells
would you guys be able to make a trap shooting video on technique and how the rotation works where you walk and how. im joining a neighboring schools trap team in march and would like to know watt im doing and not look like a foul
I'm trying to figure out trap. Is there 5 stations and you get 5 targets per station? What is that stand at each station for?
The little stand at each station? Those are microphones. The machine is voice activated. You yell pull and the machine shoots the clay automatically.
But potentially a problem when using a semi-auto.
Roland Kee I shoot a semi. A Beretta Outlander. No problem. I did put a shell catcher on it though, to not hit the guy next to me and also so I don't have to pick up em up.
***** Yes. It has never happened to me and I shoot at 6 different clubs.
***** I think it might not trigger it because I (and most shooters) close the action immediately on the report of the previous shooter. There is a delay after the pull or else the report of the shotguns would launch another bird.
One of the places is about 3 miles away, I'm a member there. All the others are about 30 to 40 minutes away. I'm a member at one of those too. They all are open to the public for trap certain days and times. There's another club near me but it's not open to the public for trap and I can't justify joining another club and I really like the one that's 30 min. away.
Shot skeet for the first time today. First time I have ever shot anything other than a .22 at pop cans. And first round got a 12, and the second i got 19. And I now am in love with the sport.
what kind of gun is the first guy using???
in NZ you are able to have a live shell in the breach of your gun(while shooting DTL) (o/u). yes your are right with a semi-auto but unfortunately incorrect with U/O
Hello walman16, realizing that the group in this video were all veteran trap shooters, out of curiosity, can you recall if all were using release triggers? Thank you so much for this!
Oh geez, this was in 2009. Only one of those guys I’m not 100% sure about but the rest of us shoot pull triggers. Thank goodness I never had to go to a release.....yet
@@walman16 Thank you for the response. If you had said "yes" I would have felt compelled to send mine out for conversion (even though I don't flinch..yet). I hope you realize how many of us your video inspire. God bless!
@@rodm140 I wouldn’t go to a release unless I had to. An extra mechanical thing to go wrong....
You took the words right out of my mouth. I personally like to say pull really drawn out, some guys make fun of me for doing it that way, but it works for me lol.
I'll agree with you in one respect, it's a lot of bucks for a stock. I had one for several years when I shot my Kreighoff. One thing I did like was the recoil reducer. I didn't care much for the comb that it came with or the Ultimate Fit comb I put on it. I know people that swear by them though.
It was hard to tell! Not many pumps still being used in Trap I reckon! I'm planning a Benelli M2 or a Benelli Vinci this week!
Nice to see a clean line but the guy not picking up his spent shells is annoying, why not just pull the spent shell like the rest and put into a pouch like the rest ?
He probably doesn't reload.
He picked them up afterwards
That's quite the shooting pace. I'll be shooting my first trap day ever next weekend, my only shotgun is an 870 Express, and I'll be asking before the shoot about things like loading the magazine for a round vs. single loading (which would surely slow me down, I'm not an experienced shotgun shooter, even though I've seen it done on film at remarkable speed). I've shot skeet once, two rounds, broke one target; hopefully I'll do better at trap with all the targets going more or less away from me and no doubles to worry about.
Edit: Okay, found a good page on trap, single loading only unless shooting doubles (I won't be doing that until I can hit 20+ in a round of singles, though I might try wobble trap sooner). I need to get one of those from-the-box pouches, then...
And just realized I'd been conflating members' trap practice with open-to-public skeet shoot days -- I'll be shooting skeet, not trap. Best get my shucking up to speed...
I'll admit there are more exciting brands of clay shooting, but for me, the rush I get running 200 straight is what brings me back......
It sounds like the guys on the ends are calling "fire" while the guys in the middle are calling "pull." Is that correct and, if so, why call it that way?
Are they using 12 ga. in this?
You don't know exactly where the clays are going to come out, this is a lot of fun!
Who is that second guy? Tell him to pick up those shells, he has to break open every time and instead of catching the shell he even aims for it to get as far as possible. Get a vest and put them away.
J.Carlos Silvestre Thats me. I policed them after. I don’t wear a vest, but I do have a shell bag. Was down visiting my folks and forgot it. As for aiming them far away, yep. Don’t want my fellow shooters standing on empty hulls trying to shoot.
What exactly happens after every 5 shots? I dont understand that exactly
You move to the right to shoot the next station. If you just shot station 5 and still have other stations to complete, then you move to station 1, then 2, soforth until you've completed all 5 stations.
walman16
Thx m8
I have choke tubes, but you might as well weld a full choke in my gun as I use it for everything expect first shot in doubles. My choice of tubes for singles (what I'm shooting here) is not the norm though. A lot of shooters use light full, improved modified, improved cylinder for singles. Earlier in my career I messed around with choke tubes and patterning but found eliminating that variable helped my mental performance more than any gains choke tubes could provide, but do what works best 4 U!
Haha clay Floyd aka big daddy $tarbucks! I'm very fortunate to live 3 minutes from NCCR Tuesday night shoots are awesome there there is alot of great people that shoot there I've been going for years and will always be my favorite place to shoot :)
~Jason Harrington~
"Just because they are old folks doesn't mean they can't out shoot you" - unknown
Trap shooting is the best!! Last time I went to the gun range I got to shoot these really cool assault rifles at a stationary target. It was cool but I was like, "Okay where's the trap? I like shotguns better." :) Nothing beats a shotgun. Except maybe a paintball gun. LOL
Jesus is the Way the Truth & the Life r u sure it was an assault rifle?
Nice video. I'm guessing the dude with the red muffs has done this before. Good to see a pump gun in there.
hey,
can you show me the terrain?
i like it, and i have like the same plase and view in my country,
and i am interrested to make the same designe as yours.
thx
and nice video ;)
Good video. I'd like to start shooting trap, but it seems like you just can't go to a place and practice like you can with a handgun. Every place near me just has matches, so I'd be like joining this group and totally messing up the rhythm.
einfussganger Every club I've ever shot at has practice hours and usually but not always they are open to the general public. Do a little investigating and I'll bet you'll find a place to shoot...:)
Yep, you were right. I found a place that doesn't shoot registered events, so it's all for fun. Shot with my son (just the two of us) for a few rounds and then joined a group of regulars who were looking to fill out a five squad. Everyone was very nice and helpful. Found my new favorite thing!
The game you're viewing is Singles and you are correct, of the three American Trap events, Singles is the easiest in one respect, but the mental aspect of Singles is very challenging. You have to be perfect usually through 200 shots to make a shootoff and then another 200 to win. Hard part about Skeet is shooting smaller gauges. For me, ( I'm not trying to start a war with a bunch of pantyhose wearing Skeet shooters), 12 gauge Skeet is a cake walk. Learn the leads, there's no variables...
Everything a serious shooter does has a purpose. When you call "pull" you have to move your mouth which could disrupt your sight picture, especially when you cheek the gun hard like me. It also serves the purpose of providing a uniform noise to the mic.
I think I found my substitute for video games
Hi Joe,
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the compliments! Just so you know, this is American Trap, not Bunker, so the house is of regulation height for American Trap. Secondly, I forgot my shell catcher but rest assured I policed my empties and disposed of them properly after this video was taken but good point. Shouldnt leave this stuff on the ground. Shoot to win! Allen
First trap day coming up for me, and since I'll be shooting my own reloads, I hope to be able to collect my empties to use the hulls again (given the hull is about 30-40% of the cost of a birdshot reload in 2023).
@@SilntObsvr just remember to take a pouch for your empties. I forgot mine that day but it’s a small club so I policed mine after shooting. I dont reload any more. Cost of lead went through the roof!
@@walman16 I had a carpenter's nail belt that had room for a box of shells in one side and all the empties in the other, but I couldn't find it (nor my electronic muffs) so I bought one that's made specifically for shotgun sports; one section exactly fits a full box of 2 3/4 shells, the other will hold (they claim) up to 50 empty hulls.
Price of lead may be high, but...
At 15 cents for a primed hull (all plastic, I'll probably get half a dozen reloads out of each), 2 1/2 to 3 cents a wad (Claybusters and Ballistic Products clone wads), $65 for 25 lb of reclaimed shot (roundly 13 shells to the pound for 1 1/8 ounce loads so twenty cents for the shot), and 15+ grains of powder ($40/lb, that's about 8 1/2 cents per shell), I figure my per-shell cost for loading my own at around 47 cents a shell -- with target loads running $10 a box, I'm not saving anything, but you can't always find them at $10/box -- and every time I reload a box of shells, the cost for each shot drops a little. Primers by the 1000 are about 6 cents, so that brings my load cost down to just about the same as Estate or Fiocchi target loads.
And I can cast slugs, buckshot, or punkin balls for a couple bucks a pound (plus shipping, but I can get 25 lb of ingots shipped for under $15), once I have the molds; that makes it cheaper to shoot slugs or buckshot (that I have molds for) than birdshot.
You are looking like you are having good fun!
I guess you need to read the rules again ;)
I just give you a hint. Skeet and Trap are two completely different disciplines, so they also have other rules. I would say, come to a ISSF trap event, and shoot the gun unmounted on your shoulder. That would be your first and last try to shoot trap at that event..
So next time you want to sound like a pro, read the rules!
How did they trim those trees like that LOL
It’s a total mystery ;)
They are probably ok. You'll want to check your local regulations for shot size limits and max powder loads but target loads probably wont exceed that. If you're hunting waterfowl, you will most likely be required to use steel shot.
No cheating here (don't know what you mean by camping but no one pitched a tent). The machine we're shooting targets from is set to ATA standards. Nothing easy about hitting a 4 5/16" inch clay disk flying from an oscillating machine with an interrupter travelling at 67 FPS. Compund that with the event we're shooting, 16 yards or singles where you essentially have to be perfect through at least 100 birds (some events are 200) to win. Come, shoot, and if you shoot with me, play the money!
I've been thinking about a basics video for beginners but am going to wait a month or so till the weather warms up. Thanks for watching!
i find those percision fit stock to be a waste of money. two days ago i used a perazzi with one on it and still dosent compare to my browning cynergy with ajustable stock/ comb..... cant go wrong with the basicd
If anyone has a BT-99 I tried raising the comb and it wasn't working for me does anyone else raise it?
If you watch the video, you'll see we only have 4, but the same rules apply if you have 5, 3, 2 or even one shooter. The leftmost shooter always starts the first round of 5, and once everyone is rotated, that shooter starts that next round of 5 and soforth until everyone has shot 5 shots at all 5 posts. Thanks for watching, hope that helps!
This is what I fall asleep to
First guy is shooting a Silver Seitz with a Precision Fit Stock.
32,000 plus entries at the Grand American year in and year out. Bring your bunker gun and play the money. Should be easy cheese for an ace like you.
the most fun i have ever had shooting love trap im ready for skeet.
Good shooting and nice range
That's terrific! Keep practicing and you'll get even better!
can i use my Perazzi MX2000?
So basicaly they shoot the clay as it just comes out?? isnt that basicaly camping/cheating?
@walman16 exactly and u know where to and how u hold it.
a LONG ass time. dont worry, its very common at your age and experience level to get that type of score. thats where everyone starts out. you will eventually find little tips and tricks to help you out. gun, yellow glasses, consistent ammo brand, ect. and pay a lot of attention to your posture and form as you shoot. makes a world of difference
At the start of the video, from left to right.....35" barrel, 40 thousandths full, 34" barrel, 35 thousandths full, (I'm guessing here on #3 but fairly sure) 34" barrel, Improved Modified, 30" barrel, 35 thousandths full. Thanks for watching!
clay busting efficiency nice work
Nice shooting, enjoyed watching the video.
Today I firstly try trap shooting and i LiKed it! 🤔☺️
Whats the best ammo to use for this
2 2/4", 3 Dram, 1 1/8 oz. 7 1/2's or 8's. I shoot 7 1/2s for Singles but most shoot 8's. Either is fine. If you don't like the recoil, go down to 1 oz. loads.
A call is a personal thing. At the start of the video, guy on Post 1 (post most left) yells Keeeeahhh!, I'm next to him and yell Ahhhhhh!, Next to me calls Pull!, Guy on Post 4 is my dad and he's yelled Hoooowwwww! as long as I can remember. The reason I don't call pull is threefold. 1) I don't have to move my mouth and possibly disrupt my sight pattern, 2) It's a uniform noise that trips the machine in a consistent release and 3) Concentration. I don't have to worry about calling "pull"
Sorry, I've never even seen trap shooting before so this is new to me. I have though, shot skeet. Is this an easier version for guys that don't have the patience or marksmanship skills to shoot skeet? It just looks SO incredibly easy! Especially in comparison to skeet. Hell, I could do this with my .357!
Hard part about singles is cracking 400 straight in a shootoff to win. Nothing easy about shooting at 27 yards on the east coast.
the guy that started on 1 has a pfs: prefision fit stock those things are expensive
Yeah, Clay can grind em'! My dad was President of NCRR until recently. Nice club. Wish is wasnt a one lunger. I hate waiting between 50's......
Welcome to the sport!! It's a blast once you get into it! I've been taking co-workers and friends who's never been and let them shoot with me and they become addicted.
good vid but 2 little things
first the trap is to high, the house needs to be at ground floor,
second can you please put a bucket at each position to deposit the shells
keep it up guys nice video indeed, i think i never saw a high quality trap shooting video like this before
Thanks for watching. This isn't my regular club but the terrain is mostly loamy soil with tall pines in the background. To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of the way this trap is laid out but it's only a small parcel of land so they made the most of it. I prefer skyline targets myself (no trees).
No, that's a 1962 Winchester Model 12.
I would love to try this.
great video amazing quality
2:54 bad gun safety regardless on direction of travel should never have gun point in anyone’s direction
I caught that as well.
1. It was unloaded and the chamber was open
2. It wasn’t at a competition it was just a few friends getting together
3. It was pointed at the sky
@@Jack-qt2qq was not anywhere near pointed at the sky. i have no problem with pumps or autos, but you see so many carried unsafely by idiots. why is it so hard to keep them pointed down.....you cant be too safe.
this is cool they are good at it