What If GOHAN went SUPER SAIYAN on NAMEK?
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Gohan fans stand up
*Stands*
Me: Stands
Stands
Yep
stand🕴
Fire video man, also I just noticed that you're getting close to 50K subs! Honestly with the rate you've been growing, you could definitely hit 100K by 2024. It's crazy to see how far you've come, I remember watching your content years ago when you were only at a few thousand subs. Keep up the great work
I appreciate that brother.
So a couple inconsistencies. They only had one wish left from Porunga in Namek but this is easily resolved by Dende healing Goku so that him and Vegeta could hold off Frieza long enough for Gohan to be healed. If Vegeta knew spirit fission he could sense the different ki inside Buku and defuse them. With no Cell, Mr. Satan won't become the world savior and with Videl having less bravado given she's the daughter of the world champ and not the world savior plus Gohan training more there's little chance for them to get together therefore no Pan and no SSJG ritual but you could justify this by saying that the accelerated growth from Vegeta results in Bra being born earlier. The only thing left is the fact that Trunks may be doomed cause he won't know about Cell and there was wasted potential in Cell not trying to absorb his present version.
Since Son Goku had been injured and drained from his fight against Frieza, Son Goku would have gotten a Zenkai Boost once he was healed by Porunga and Vegeta would have gotten a Zenkai Boost himself from him recovering from all of the damage that Frieza gave him when Vegeta had been revived too.
nah vegeta wasn’t getting a zenkai because he actually died
saiyans get a zenkai when they recover from near death. key words are “NEAR DEATH”
@@babyjae7316that's f*cked up cause that azz whooping might've gave enough zenkai boost for Vegeta to turn super Saiyan 😂
How could Goku use multiple wishes on the dragon balls on namek when Gohan and krillen already used two wishes
1st wish was to recover destructions caused by Frieza to Shenron Earth dragon
2 ne wish to transfer all people on Namek to Earth except Frieza and Goku
Your narration is so good and enjoyable, your officially my 2nd fav dbz what If channel
I appreciate that!
Honestly this is one of your best youtube videos,ngl tho I was gonna scared the full story was only 20 minutes thought everyone was gonna die at the end ☠️
Lmao, thanks for watching
I haven’t even watched this video yet but I already know it’s gonna be good
B what are severely disappointed me.
Reasons
1. You gave Vegeta access the Forced Spirit fission earlier than Cannon but you never had him utilized it. Disability not only allows you to steal the energy of others. But it also can forcefully split up fusions. During ultimate Vegeta's fight against buu you made them hesitant to finish the battle cuz he didn't want to kill Goku. But he never thoughts to utilize a technique that he has had for approximately nine years at the least to master.
2. You prevented piccolo from fusing with kami. When there should be no reason not to. They had access to the namekian. They had access to nemak to replace kami need be. It would have removed piccolo's rated weakness. That being if kami dies he dies too. And if you really wanted to make sure kami stays that guardian of Earth. Then you could have had Vegeta split them up with Forced Spirit fission. There is also the fact that they should be less hesitant on using the fusion ability because they have a method to undo it. This also means that piccolo would be more willing to fuse with all the other namekian to get them a better shot in the tournament of power to win so their universe isn't erased.
3. You gave Goku the super Saiyan God form. When all logic it would make more sense to give to Gohan. The whole reason of performing the ritual was to satisfies Beerus by giving him the best fight they can sense gohan the strongest Saiyan at the time it would make more sense to give him the transformation.
4. You had Gohan held down by kibito. When he was far stronger from his canon counterpart. Kibito had trouble holding go on down in the Canon so there should be no way that he would succeed in this timeline.
4. Gohan and piccolo are both tacticians. With Gohan's to train, his bond with piccolo, the ability to use instant transmission, and having the knowledge of all the various techniques yardrat. Gohan is the type of person I honestly would believe who would go back to yardrat to continue his training. To gain access two more of those techniques. And bring piccolo along to learn them as well. Also since Gohan his training more with Goku that means most likely piccolo would train more with them as well. Bringing the possibility that piccolo might learn the kaio Ken since he doesn't have the ability to transform. You can even argue that piccolo would also end up learning instant transmission from all of this and possibly could go to namek whenever he wants to learn more about his people and more about the techniques they have.
1. I will admit, I kinda forgot I gave vegeta forced spirit fission lol. But I dont think it matters much, either way they would have simply defeated Buu.
2. Again, it's not a problem. Piccolo and Kami never NEEDED to fuse. They didnt have access to namek. Goku had to teleport to king kais and then teleport to namek through his instruction. But gohan and vegeta were OFF world while the fusion discussion was happening, and goku was absorbed by Buu.
3. Once again, it rly doesnt matter who gets the form. Gohan as we know is never one to go towards the god forms either way because he always wanted to make his own path of power, like he has done now with his beast form. But even if he got it, the story doesnt change much.
4. Gohan doesnt need to go back to yardrat. He learned what he learned, and thats it. You saying its in gohans character to go back and train with them is invalid btw. Gohan never went back to train with the kais after the buu saga even though they were the reason he got so much stronger.
@@SaiyanMotion 1. Now that I think of it the forced spirit fission would have easily solved the buu problem making it so Vegeta and Gohan would not have even needed to have their potential unlocked in the first place
2. The reason you gave for piccolo not fusing with kami was because piccolo believe that kami was needed for the dragon balls but a smart character like piccolo should have already known that there were several ways to get the dragon balls back. There is also the fact from piccolo's perspective at the time he had no idea how long they had till buu decides to attack or how long it would take for Vegeta and Gohan to return from their training with the supreme Kai. You even have it we're piccolo's goal been training the kids was to stall not beat.
3. If you think about the scenario from the characters for perspective then Gohan getting the form at the time would make the most sense they were in a dangerous position. If they could not satisfy beerus with a good enough fight Beerus would have destroyed the Earth. Also the fact Gohan is not a prideful person he would put the safety of the Earth over his own desires.
4. Gohan from cannon at the time had given up on training. And only trained with the z sword and got his potential because the situation called for it. After the events of the buu saga. Gohan was still under the mindset that he didn't need to train because he believed it was not necessary since Goku and Vegeta where there to take care of any threats. And only begin to get motivated to train after being beat buy freeza while Goku and Vegeta were off planet. And at that point he had a family to think of so he couldn't spend large amount of time off-planet. On the other hand the Gohan of your timeline had seven years of peace was more motivated to train and did not have the same burdens as cannon Gohan had
Bro these vids are so good, its like watching Salad saiyan or Carthu's dojo
Honestly you deserve more subs like the videos you make are like you have 300k subs
Agreed
The legend of super back tingling sensation
Not going by guides, but Goku in the original dragon ball was around 150~ before training with kami. And gohans rage boost against radditz had Gohan at 2000~; so his rage boost is equated to using ozaru in base (X10) if we assume he was on par with Goku early-ish in dragon ball.
Now, assuming Gohan used his rage boost is 10 times base, his power level before frieza kills krillen and after potential unlock is atleast at a power level of 50k and 500k with rage boost; or on par with base form frieza.
Let's say, because of the supersaiyan transformation a 50 times multiplier; plus rage boost. well... He would be 25 million. He would only be able to take on final form frieza at 20% of his power.
Or a bit weaker than kaioken times 10 Goku in the frieza fight. I think Gohan going super Saiyan would lead to a scenario where Goku doesn't get supersaiyan because I think krillen wouldn't be killed.
Ultimately, the z fighters would lose.
It's logic.
You clearly don’t understand gohans rage boosts. They’re VERY clearly more severe every time he gets one, the one against raditz is less severe than the one against vegeta, and the one against vegeta is less severe than the one against frieza and then against cell it was at its highest probably. When you understand that friezas second form power level was at 1mil and third form was between 1.5-2 mil, for gohan to be able to land an onslaught on him he had to be around that ball park with a rage boost, it’s also crazy to say gohans power level was only 50,000 as it had been increasing through out the whole saga. Rages boosts don’t work as a set multiplier, they depend on the situation and character
Cell after Buu absorbs SSJ3 Goku: 👁️👄👁️
I know this will be good
here's hoping you enjoy!
Did you just forget that you gave Vegeta forced spirit fission?
yep.
Nice video this would make a great fan manga
Already
yes sir!
Fire video like always
Appreciate it
Short simple and sweet. Fantastic story bro.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed
Awesome video 👍
I love your videos
Keep it up
Hope to see the new video soon
Hmm... what if Gohan had Frieza's Potential?😁
I Dont Think He Needs It
@@Josiah-Justin Welp, worth a shot.🙂
You should watch “what if goku had Freizas potential” by salad Saiyan
@@kidd595 Did watch Salad Saiyan's one actually. Just wandering what would other saiyan or non-saiyan characters had frieza's potential.
YESIR another good full story once again by the amazing saiyan motion 😎
That thumbnail is 🔥
really wonderful man , thank you for this video
also while i know this is un related to this video , but i wanted to talk about some thing regarding a fan made manga named as dragon ball new hope , a manga where cell kill every one including even kid trunks to prevent any version of trunks still existing from the current time line from growing up and doing trouble to him , aside from krillin who end up surviving and bonding with goten and training him , al though he eventually die defeating cell while goten survive , in the last chapter that featured goten , there is a shot of future trunks with long hair transforming into super saiyan 2 , while a grown up kid trunks probably around or same age as teen gohan , telling him in the other world to let him go with him to defeat cell , AND BOY it look so good , like how ever who was making art for that manga nailed how a long haired super saiyan 2 future trunks that i'm wondering why it's not official , or why no one made a mod of this in a video game , his hair has every single spike standing up , and i recommend you to see this manga and that clear shot of that super saiyan 2 future trunks , you might benefit from it in making art
Great story man
Glad you enjoyed it
"decides to lay dormant" cell: fuck this I'm gonna hide some more
Yo man another spectacular video, I like these videos keep it up the work. If u want to, make a goku immortal what if or goku had frieza's potential.
Thanks for watchin
@@SaiyanMotion ur welcome
Feel like android saga should’ve been harder for the Z-fighters
Or if you were going to keep cell around for that long, have him be more relevant later in the story
Also the Yardrat training that Vegeta received didn’t play a role at all, he could’ve used it to defuse goku from Buu
Additionally I think that goku should’ve combined ssj3 with kioken during that 4 year time-skip, as you kind of alluded to him doing some extra special training to catch up
Finally I think that the ToP would be different considering that both Gohan and Vegeta would be hugely against Frieza, and the androids are dead, so Pybara, Goten and Trunks would probably replace them
Voice acting for Goku!?
Love your take on this idea! 10/10
Wait didn’t they only have one wish left??
It's great that atleast the fans write wr Gohan, Vegita and others are more than fodder
Finally been waiting for this gohan is amazing
Woah Saiyan motion almost 50k huh Fam not gone the what if Goku was born a SSJ4 was neat
oh dude just wait. The born a SSJ4 getting a full remix come march.
Android 16: The birds are pretty
I think goku would be at 1,000,000 when he was injured but when krillin was killed he returned to the 3 million mark.
They'll come running back for food 😂 the accuracy of this 🤣👌
Love the video gangy
Frieza's face at 6:36 💀
These are way better than Amagi.
I love the liberties that you take.
Why didn’t Vegeta use Force Spirit Fission against Super Buu Goku absorbed?
tbh I didn't even think about that lol, but now that you mention it, that likely would have happened. Luckily, it doesnt change much.
Glad to see decent scaling, I have been doing scaling since the 90s 👀 lmk of you want to colaborate to make accurate videos based on feats and what we can logically deduce. I believe good dragonball scaling is what most such channels lack. I have also written many popular fics over the years so can plan stories too.
Goku and Gohan synergy? They've never trained together. Goku never parented Gohan
The More You Train With Someone The Better The Synergy. They Trained All The Time. And Parenting Has Nothing To Do With Synergy
@@Josiah-Justin prior to namek what training did they do together?
Gohan was a kid, raditz came killed Goku. Piccolo train Gohan. They fought Vegeta and Nappa. Goku in hospital and Gohan in spaceship to namek with krillan and Bulma. In namek all fighting. Goku beats Frieza and goes yadrat. Gohan on earth.
@@slimmachin In This What If…
@@Josiah-Justin nope in mainline DBZ canon too. Makes me wonder if you've ever watched DBZ
@@slimmachin Did You Hear Me.. I SAID IN THE WHAT IF YOU WATCHED
Buu doesn’t really get influenced that much when he absorbs people gohan Goten and trunks were all pure hearted and he was still evil it counts when he absorbed the the grand supreme Kai
we know that Buu is impacted by people. Like when he saw Hercules daughter on the lookout, he decided to listen to piccolo and wait a little. I just think goku would have a semi effect, but obviously he still murders people so its not like hes good.
This was a brilliant talk, could you do what if Teen Gohan had got mystic form after he defeated cell
Goku goes from a base power of 90,000 arriving on Namek, all the way to 3,000,000 when he first starts fighting Frieza. That’s a 30x times boost from 90,000 to 3,000,000…
This is what would happen if Gohan got his potential unlocked as a baby
Oooooo more videos
Very enjoyable
Son Gohan had a Power Level of 200,000 or so by the time that he had fought against First Form Frieza.
So Buu Absorbed Cell ? 🤔
Little bit of an error on two wishes that where used on the Namekian Dragon Balls since only one wish was left, but you can easily fix that with both wishes been worded the same. 👍 You know if Gohan learned the Spirit Cloneing technique or even the Multiform technique in general he could get so much work done and he could be able to do stuff with his family too. 🤔 Imperfect Cell really thought he was that guy getting that power boost from Gohan until Buuku came. 😆 Huh so Ultimate Vegeta and Gohan interesting twist here. 🤔 Yeah there really wouldn't much change in DBS except Gohan could take care of Frieza again and Vegeta Black happening of Goku Black. Anyways another really good full-story story, and looking forward to the next one.
What if suggestion:
What if All-Fusions were permanent?
(Like Potara Earrings and Fusion Dance.)
i dont quite understand what you mean with the wishes thing, but Im glad you liked the video overall
@@SaiyanMotion One wish was used to heal everybody, and the two wish was used to transport everyone from Namek to Earth. Only one wish was left on the Namekian Dragon Balls after everybody brought back to life, because of the Earth's Dragon Balls.
hi saiyan motion
Yo
this is so good
Gohan still getting that ass beat.
main story: after guru was revived 1 wish only
this one: after guru was revived 3 wishes😂
Will all the Hoban fans who please stand up
Man this what if could definitely go further but I loved this. I hope you decide to continue it one day and spice things up a bit
Vegeta with Ultimate is kinda a big deal.
@Saiyan Motion,
So Three Future Z Fighters didn't make a difference against the Future Androids ? 🤔
I'd thought that Instant Transmission and Spirit Fission would have done some damage.
I like to follow the original future timeline, it's clearly its own thing as shown in dbz and dbs.
Welp the Android are dead due mabye
Future trunks and yamaha replase den in the top.
Also theory buu abzorbed cell.
Why didn't vegeta use forced spirit fission to separate Goku from buu instead of killing him
Buuko huh? And here i thought Buuku was the optimal example.
It is lol
what if khalil went super saiyan against frieza
When is the next episode
Kids: Don't smoke weed before making what-ifs
Ultimate God Vegeta would be awesome against Jiren.
This video is inconsistent because of the fact that if Vegeta never lived on earth he would not have smashed Bulma and got her preggo
I do think that the dragon Ball super portion of the story line would be significantly altered. If I made a DBS continuation of this video could you please link it on your channel? Also please send me the links to the soundtracks you use so I can have the same continuity of music.
what if goku had super saiyan lime. its Ikari and super saiyan combined
“What If…Chi-Chi Continued Her Training & Became A Z-Fighter?” - I absolutely hate that Toriyama put her behind and didn't make her a Z-Fighter. She had the most potential out of any other human on earth - more than Krillin, Tien or Yamcha. Imagine how much she could accomplish if she trained alongside Goku; maybe even mastering Kaio-Ken better than him, since she'd have to rely on it more than he would. As well as having her hidden powers unlocked by Grand Elder Guru, and eventually bringing out her latent abilities by Old Kai. With her entire potential unleashed and her mastery of the Kaio-Ken, she'd be more than capable to enter the Tournament of Power.
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@@SaiyanMotion Hi
Imagine vegeta saw this
I mean gohan pre anger amp had a pwr lvl of 150k vs frieza so his pwr lvl would only be 7.5mil but if ur using anger amp gohan than he has a pwr lvl of 1mil but in ssj he would have a pwr lvl of 50mil which is slightly less than half (60mil) of frieza full power (120mil)
I severely disagree with that 1mil “appraisal.” Gohans PL at minimum would have needed to be 1.5 mil to get an advantage on a third form frieza. I would like to argue that the rage boost would also be higher because his rage boosts get more and more intense each time he gets one.
@@SaiyanMotion Yes but he doesnt retain access to the rage boost after it subsides. Yes it's a terrifying boost (He went from basically nothing to 1307 against Raditz, and from 981 to just over 3000 when using Masenko against Nappa) it always vanished afterwards. I mean hell he was so out of energy against Nappa he couldnt even run away.
Assuming his rage boosts are like 3 to 5 times the amplification he'd need to have a power level anywhere from just over 200k to 340k to gain an upper hand on 2nd form Frieza (And remember Frieza was NOT damaged by Gohan's rampage), and 500k to around 750k to overwhelm third form, which, again Frieza kicks back towards Gohan with practically no effort once he can use the ground as leverage.
In all honesty I sincerely doubt a super saiyan kid gohan is that much stronger than Goku using the 10x Kaioken. *Even* at the higher end of 750k his power would be only at 37.5 million. Certainly enough to whoop Frieza around initially untill the Emperor steps on the throttle... At which point he would kill Gohan.
Dragon ball super theme song
Objection!
Less than 2 years later, Adult Ultimate Gohan is SSB tier.
By all rights BoG Ultimate Gohan would be comparable to SSG Goku from the Canon timeline.
4:10
What if vegeta went into an Ikari form when he first went to Earth? Frustrated by Gokus strength, even while in ozaru. Seeing yajarobi going to cut his tail, but Dodge. In a rage, while in ozaru powers up but goes back to a human form. Green aura around him, with pure anger in his eyes.
Well short answer : everyone dies
Wouldn’t vegeta be able to use spirit fission to diffuse buu and goku? 19:15
Yes. Ima be honest lol, I forgot
ciukdnt they have trained in the rosat for 3 days have kami remove the restrictions from the dragon balls and the rosat
Saiyan Motion, Son Goku and Vegeta would have gotten Zenkai Boosts and Dende can Heal people back to full health.
Wait a minute bro. Yo video was going good until buu absorbed goku. Im saying that because you had vegeta learning force spirit fission early in the series so why didn't he just use it on buu ? That didn't make sense
I feel like that's what should've happened in the actual story
ngl you could've had goku obtain ssj4
The only problem with this what if is Gohan's power level was around 200,000, according the dizenshou, and SSJ is a 50 times multipler, so Gohan is only 10 million. Goku was 3 million when he started his fight with Frieza and got all the way up to 60 million for a short burst with Kaioken times 20. Gohan would only be a 5th of Frieza was after getting hit by the Spirit Bomb and only a 16th if Frieza went full power. We've seen that characters that have a power level of 2 times greater be unphased by powerful attacks. Goku would be more powerful and effective with a times 4 Kaioken than Gohan is with SSJ. Not to mention when he first attacked Frieza in his 2nd form Frieza was distracted and had his guard down. Gohan also wouldn't have enough energy to maintain the form as he gave all of his energy to Piccolo so Piccolo could fend off Frieza while Goku charged the Spirit Bomb.
Listen to my explanation again of how gohan climbs in power. If he was only a 200,000 PL, how did he beat down second form and third for frieza. Rage boosts. Gohan would get a rage boost and a SSJ boost which would significantly increase his power. That’s why I put him at 75 mil, Ik friezas still stronger which is why I had the three saiyans fight him together.
@@SaiyanMotion You mean the rage boost that only dirtied Frieza in his second form and then when he allowed himself to be 'struck' by that energy attack in his third form, only to throw it back at him with no effort or powering up?
Wait but Piccolo died in front of Gohan in the anime
before SSJ was a thing. Piccolo never died on namek. Also, it's a what if for a reason. Generally speaking, it would obviously be Goku.
Eh i think it would be better if piccolo died and goku was heavily injured
Why would they go to yardrat if vegeta knows to fly the ship then surely they would head back to earth plus gohan as a super sayain at the point wouldn't of stood a chance against Frieza let's say he actually had 75 million power level Friezas power level was 120 million rising to 150 when at full power even with the damage he received from the spirit bomb wouldn't of made a difference plus vegeta and goku playing a support role doesn't make sense yeah goku may been able damage on him when using 20x kaioken but he only do that once or twice max because of impact it has on him plus vegeta firing ki blasts at Frieza would be like a mosquito bite to him personally I think he'd kill gohan goku would then become enraged and turn super saiyan and kill Frieza and the story plays out very similar apart from being gohan dead instead of krillin
If gohan went super Sayain on namek I feel like frieza would still win.
I do explain why they would win tbf
@@SaiyanMotion nah frieza would win, he nearly beat goku, frieza is also hardly weakened by the spirit bomb, considering his fight with goku, so frieza would win, kill gohan and blow up namek killing goku and krillin, frieza wins, the end, also he wouldn't get a rage boost with super saiyan, because goku watched krillin die and still only got 50x stronger, gohan also didn't nothing to third form frieza, so gohan at most would be 1.3 million in base x 50 = 65 million
@@billy75chook80 why wouldn't he get a rage boost? Gohan is literally THE rage boost guy. It's argued that he may not have been able to compare to super perfect cell if he didn't have a rage boost applied on top of the SSJ2 boost. One thing there's absolutely no doubt about is that he would get a rage boost.
@@billy75chook80 "Nearly?" Goku wasn't even going all out after he went SSJ while Frieza continued to lose energy by the second. Goku even powered down because Frieza wasn't even a challenge anymore. Even after giving Frieza his energy, he still had enough in the tank to completely obliterate Frieza with an Angry Kamehameha.
Great video. Your narration seems too rushed. Slow it down. Have a breath.
Just my style, it’s more fast paced. Though I do understand that sometimes it’s too fast.
As I’ve said before gohan had a power level of at max 625,000 during the frieza fight so ssj only being a 50x multiplier would only give gohan around 31,250,000 making him significantly weaker than even kioken x20 goku meaning frieza would dominate gohan easily even if in the same fight gohan went beyond ssj1 and achieved ssj2 he’s then only at 62,500,000 and full power frieza would still dominate the fight considering goku at kioken x20 had a power level of 60,000,000 and frieza stopped his ka-me-ha-me-ha with a single hand and only said that hurt gohan is getting washed easily by 75% frieza no competition at all only a ssj3 power up give gohan the strength to actually beat full power frieza at this point
Care to explain how a simple rage boost allowed gohan to beat up second and third form frieza? Second form frieza being at a PL of 1mil and third form frieza being at a power level of 1.5-2mil
@@SaiyanMotion he suppressed himself it’s even stated that he held back notice how the moment after the rage boost frieza is unharmed and shrugged it off and even laughed about it the only other person in this saga that would be able to beat frieza is if vegeta got the ssj1 transformation instead of goku he’s the only one with enough power to make it work gohan is simply just to weak rage boost or not he’s not overcoming that difference in power
I like your videos but that one isn't that realistic, it's took vegeta years to change, specialy letting his pride go, he would never train along side goku and gohan as he is to proud to do so.
There also no reason for them to go to yadrat as vegeta could just change the corss to earth, and how the hell does the namekian dragon Balls have 3 wishes?
There was only one wish left which was to relocate all of the people from namek, and last thing, the only reason king cold knew about earth was because of freeza, and the only clue that he might had was his son ship going to yadret which means he would probably go there.
Beside that if we ignore all of the problem the android + cell saga was written great and I do believe that consider that what if, unlock grade 2 by the Saiyans does make sense.
I can't see how they will unlock super Saiyan 3 in the time skip, the only reason goku was able to achive that for was because of his dead body that was less draining and easier to deal with energy loss or dmg.
I actually stop there because it's became unrealistic.
Actually vegeta would have more potential then goku so naturally vegeta could very well surpass goku
Gohan was to young
Bruh GOKU anit trying
couldn't vegeta just use force spirit fission on fat buu?That way it will not only make him weaker in his kid version but it will also brought back the kais that buu absorbed.
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14,000 after the latent power awakening no way he should be much stronger than that