Can you play a Christmas vinyl record on an old Gramophone with a COCKTAIL STICK?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Following on from the success of my last similar video • Can you play a vinyl r... and with Christmas in-coming I was drinking a cocktail and wondered to myself if you could play a vinyl record with a cocktail stick. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
Luckily I had a sacrificial Christmas record on hand :) and decided to give it a try.
So can you play a modern vinyl on an old gramophone player with a cocktail stick?
** Nothing valuable was harmed in the making of this Video! But please No NOT try this at home! ** Not that I damaged the record as it was already ruined following my last 'experiment'.
Conclusion: Hmmm. Technically - sort of. Would you want to? Hell no.
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I wouldn't do it but interesting experiment. I have a bunch of budget label 78s from the early 50s. They don't go near gramophones.
If you cherish them then look after them as you see fit. I'm no expert on them so couldn't advise either way. I think the older 78s are fine with a metal needle but new (relative term) ones prefer a suitably designed stylus.
Nothing wrong with playing any shellac 78 on a gramophone with needles used as designed. It was not really the steel needles that damaged so many 78's but the later ones. In particular using the 33rpm side of a diamond stylus instead on the 78 side. So it was in the main 50's and 60's machines used badly that damaged so many 78s not gramophones. People never changed their needles often enough and as said often used the wrong side. A use once steel does no damage.
Have seen it done successfully with a 78, but the stick wore out real fast when & tried it. The main problems with vinyl would be the weight & compliance, especially as the soundwaves at 45/33.3rpm are compressed in comparison with a 78. 78rpm for shellac & heavy soundboxes was chosen for a reason! A fun expiriment though. You could try stabbing the cocktail stick through a matchbox & gently holding it against the record.
I was amazed I got any sound out of it at all. That single is well and truly wrecked now though. What a shame :)
@@TheGramophoneGirl The simple analogue technology of the record groove means that any point fine enough to fit the groove will reproduce something when the record rotates. I've got faint but intelligible music/voice from a 78 with my fingernail!
Interesting experiment :-)
Hmmm lol. It was a flash of inspiration, or was it intoxication? I'm not so sure lol
I owe many many wind up gramophones. Audio has come a long way. Vinyl still has physical mechanical bumps in the grooves ( rill and dales). We've come a long way in Vinyl technology, tonearm shapes and everything else. Why not build a mechanical system using old technology and even old spring motors to see what these sound like in the mechanical raw form without damaging them. There must be a way to cut small pieces of mica diaphragm, or attach a proper tensioned string to the halfway point on the tonearm to a center point loop on the diagram to the tip of a stylus on the cartridge at the playing end of the tonearm. One can shoehorn a standard cartridge somehow with the replaceable needle stylus ( that are still available). This would be interesting. I have a three spring Columbia motor that I can experiment with and can use a toy permanent magnet motor as a dynamic braking speed control. The adjustment wouldn't be hard to adjust to 33 1/3 and 45. If a 78 on a full wind of a 3 spring motor can play 78s for just over half hour, imagine how long it can play LPs. One can even figure out how to displace the acoustic sound to get mechanical stereo sound by splitting the horn tonearm sequence through apertures. The upside no damaged records
I've often wondered how good we could make a windup gramophone using todays technology and materials. Purely mechanical, but just using modern tech. I get we could get some amazing sound quality and speed regulation.
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@@TheGramophoneGirl to be honest i do not think we could be much better than an for the orthophonics HMV 163, woth the exponential reentrant internal horn. these machines where the ultimate design and have for an acoustical system quite a good an very loud sound example out of mine collection ruclips.net/video/iUD4W40jLZs/видео.html
No you cannot play modern vinyl on wind up record player
You absolutely can't. It totally damages the vinyl.
I think I should trowel through my doubles and see if I have a vinyl 78 to try this with ;)
I wouldn't recommend it! lol Certainly not with any of value.
@@TheGramophoneGirl not of any value most are so common in gets annoying to find them in a new box of hoped for treasure:)
What an interesting test.
Thank you! I enjoyed it.
Sure it would work. Anything sharp connected to some kind of resonator "speaker" would work. But the gramophone you used isn't even remotely suitable for a 45 rpm record. Speed is too much too high, and the pressure of the needle is about 10 times too high
You are absolutely right. I was just curious if it would even work. I know on 78s they used to use wood or bamboo 'needles', but wasn't sure if I would be able to get any sound at all from the much narrower 45s. And playing it with a non-standard item. It was also a bit of fun to use this same record that was destroyed previously when I played it with a metal gramophone needle.
Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas.