Re: other aspect shrines: Strung alongside the known aspect runes on his bangles (including the Shadow Spectre Rune), the new Avatar of Khaine has two completely unknown runes... the implication would be that these are two additional aspects of Khaine yet unseen. Bear in mind that they plan model releases sometimes over a decade in advance. Also, they could always release Karandras and the Shadow Spectres in plastic. If anything, plastic spectres would be a monumental upgrade over the spindly fragile resin ones.
A Phoenix Lord is never late, Frodo Baggins. Neither are they early. They arrive precisely when they mean-AHHHH! KARANDRAS, I TOLD YOU TO STOP JUMPING OUT AND SCARING ME LIKE THAT!
To huff a ton of copium Karandras has went to a maiden world to teach eldar exodites in the ways of aspects and is gonna roll up at some point with a squad of dragon riders.
Or the fact he’s mentioned with the Phoenix lord of the specters that will go to legends and the one of the spears that’s never had a model… he is gone. Too early to speculate but perhaps GW didn’t forget to make a new one of him.
In the article it says he is currently lost, which with any other character (Jagatai, Yarrick, Erebus) is understood as, "not in game," but the real indicator is if they are selling his model. If yes, in codex, if no, legends. I'm just in a rush, I can't check. And if he is legends, just use legends, literally rules saying you can.
There's another reason for Jain Zar to pull back, now with Fulgrim coming back and it looks like Fulgrim is wielding the last crone sword that would allow the Aeldari to save themselves without having to die that Jain is looking to go after Fulgrim, or draw him out, to get that last crone sword (and this could be where Kharandras has gone, to hunt down Fulgrim and get that crone sword).
@@seaofenergy2765 you might want to go back and look at the warhammer community shots of Fulgrim, he's definitely wielding the crone sword (Lucius has the Laer blade)
@@seaofenergy2765 Where is this text? The warhammer community post in question says: "Some of his weapons are manifestations of Fulgrim’s sheer will, others are trophies taken from worthy opponents, though some have spotted a heavy but relatively plain broadsword among this ever-rotating armoury." It seems strange to highlight the 'relatively plain broadsword'... It's also interesting that the publicity shots don't give a clear view of this sword, even after highlighting it in the text.
I know it's higly unlikely, but between abbadon pointing out during arks of omen how unusualy quiet the eldar curently are, the vanishing of karandras, jain-zar leaving the ynnari and becoming "narratively free" again like the other Phoenix lords and the huge release of New Phoenix Lord models coinciding with the release of the emperor's children gets me cautiously hyped something big will happen Lorewise. The idea of Fulgrim killing karandras and consequently triggering a huge war between the forces of slaanesh and all the current Phoenix lords is something I can't get out of my head, the eldar need an objective and a foil, and having Fulgrim as the champion of slaanesh waging war against the whole eldar species would give new purpose for both factions
@IamtheWV17 yeah, but when you're Fulgrim, you can always yeet the armor into slaanesh's domain... Which is functionaly the same as dying but way more horrifying. Also, given his patron, I wouldn't be surprised if Fulgrim was capable of doing something like soul vampirism with eldar soulstones, drinking them like margaritas and shit...
@benbaxter1047 im sorry, but by GW's rules elves are only allowed to narratively progress and get a W if they get a huge L too. our faction is powered by our misery, Im not the one who made the rules lol
My gut feeling is that Karandras might be a model we get with an end of edition book like those in Psychic Awakening. "Secrets of the Scorpion" or "Wrath of the Scorpion" something like that. Also, if the Rana Dandra needs all of the Phoenix Lords to occur, him disappearing so they can't all meet up is real forward thinking.
As it is now, Drastanta of the Shining Spear has been gone for like, FOREVER already. Unless he popped out one of these days, there will never be Rhana Dandra. And if they need *every* Phoenix Lord to be present, then I suspect that Ah'ra/Drazhar will have to be there as well.
It's the "Lore Reason" for their Oops. My boys went to LVO a few years back and spoke to a former GW guy. According to the former designer, Primaris was supposed to simply be "True Scale Marines" in plastic, but Marketing stepped in and said "Nobody'd buy them if they were just True Scale Marines, make 'em their own thing!" Not sure how much credence to put into that, but..... Now, the mention of the Spears PL has me going 11th Ed character release???????
All of this is why I like my Exodites concept that's just a port of my old Wood Elves army into 40k with some conversions. I can play whatever rules and lore I want.
I am beyond stoked there is finally a Warp Spiders Phoenix Lord, and I'll be honest, I never really cared for Striking Scorpions, but damn... I think it sucks a ton to lose any Phoenix Lord. It's such an amazing dynamic that if there is an Aspect warrior, there is an Exarch, and there is a Phoenix Lord. As for the lore feeling weird, you know what mike it feel less weird and make way more sense? Write more books about anything other than Space Marines.
Also missing for several codexes now (despite one being the leader of the Eldar poster boys) Nudahu Fireheart (the big Saim Hann leader) and Iyanna Arienal (from Iyanden)
I'll be sad to lose all of my forge world models (lynx, hornets, Shadow spectres). While I hope they'll come back on plastic sometime, I expect my spectres might work as counts-as swooping hawk models. At least, that seems the closest reasonable substitution.
Weird, we got the leak of how to build Karandras in plastic. It looked very legitimate. I honestly think he is going to be back based on that. I could be wrong, but I don't think they are going to get rid of him. Lore wise the elves can't go away until Fuegan destroys chaos. I don't see that happening any time soon. They would be wiping out over half their armies. It would require them to completely reset the game or go out of business and decide the time has come to close out the story.
@@LoftOfTheUniverse Now I feel like I'm going crazy and can't find it. I swear there was build instruction manual that was shown online. The poster said they got the wrong instructions in there model box and it had Karandras instructions. I watched a video or 2 about it.
It's a shame Karandras is missing from the refresh, I recon he'll tie in with the reboxing of the scorpions when they get rotated out of kill team and fully into 40k in a year or two.
It's when they're all gathered on the same battlefield. I think the idea being to discourage Eldar players from running all the Phoenix Lords in a list since narratively they're supposed to be Primarch tier demigods
Excellente vidéo, tout est dit ! Et trop nul Games de nous enlever Karandras et Irilyth, un déjà ça faisait mal, mais deux, alors qu'on a toujours pas Drastanta en plus... ça m'a dégouté à vie. Je n'achèterai plus de fig tant qu'au moins un des deux soit revenu.
Great update!! Love the in depth explanation. Sorry i made a duplicate comment that someone else had already made...... But i figured at least it was 1 more comment!
Not being in the codex doesn't rule out a future model released as part of an event. If they do that they will include the rules in the book that goes with it like they have for the previous times they did something like that.
The eldar army list has changed the least of any 40k army. Every unit that existed in 2nd ed still exists, the shadow spectres and crimson hunters are the only new aspects they've ever released. spiders and spears were both in the 2nd ed codex albeit without models.... The only part of the 2nd ed list they haven't released yet are the exodite dragon knights. It's pretty remarkable if you look at the 2nd ed list just how little has been added or changed to the army.
I had been under the impression that they had forgotten Karandras and were releasing the new mini later but this comes off as GW deciding to not bother with even that which is a slap in the face...
Imma keep playing with my Shadow Spectres. My group is generally cool with Legends. Karandras will probably come back at some point, but I don't see it ever happening for Iryllith and Shadow Spectres
I think it'd be neat if there were rules for creating your own Aspect Shrine for use in Crusade/Narrative play. I love the idea of my homebrew Craftworld having its own unique kind of Aspect Warrior but it's not something that could really be reflected in the game currently.
I may well be wrong, but I feel like you've misread the Ynnari and particularly Eldrad's intentions for them. Eldrad is actively trying to prevent the Rhana Dandra, precisely because it will lead to the death of all the eldar and thus the birth of Ynnead (who will supposedly then go on to defeat Slaanesh). That's what the whole ritual/battle on Coheria was about: Eldrad attempting to awaken Ynnead early, so the eldar didn't have to die. He and Yvraine also believe that reuniting the five crone swords is another way of awakening Ynnead, so that's what the Ynnari are currently tasked with doing. If that wasn't the case, there's no reason for Jain Zar to split from the other Phoenix Lords as the Phoenix Lords are already working towards Rhana Dandra. The way I read that bit about Jain Zar distancing herself from Yvraine is that she is becoming uncomfortable with the ease with which Yvraine will spend lives, when Jain Zar had been convinced by Eldrad that the ultimate goal was to save eldar lives. Jain Zar was also pursued by howling banshees from the Iybraesil craftworld whose intention was to remind her that her first loyalty was to all the eldar, not just the Ynnari, so perhaps that played a part, too. I'm definitely looking forward to reading the new lore when it comes, anyway, when we can get concrete answers to these questions. Personally, it's my belief that Ynnead isn't what Eldrad believes she is, and in fact the new eldar god is some kind of bait and switch by Slaanesh. N'kari certainly seems to be keeping tabs on Eldrad's progress and doesn't entirely seem to be hindering him, whereas the Slaaneshi daemons have been shown to be far more hostile towards the Phoenix Lords. Another possibility I think is on the table is that Ynnead simply isn't the eldar god Eldrad thinks she is. Not that she isn't being fed by the deaths of the eldar and is growing in power, that is, but it's probably worth remembering that it's ambiguous what the other eldar gods actually were - it's entirely possible they weren't 'gods' at all (in the warp entity sense), and were rather super advanced pieces of technology created during the war in heaven to fight against the necrons. If that's the case, Ynnead's birth would be more akin to the birth of Slaanesh, and we've already seen how a god created from the psyche of the eldar turns out. I'm not sure why Eldrad believes Ynnead would turn out any different. Or, in fact, why a god of the dead would have any interest in preserving life at all, except perhaps as a gradually replenishing fuel source.
Sad to hear Mr. ShadowSlaughter McMurderDeath and Shadow Specters will not get into the codex. I’m feel like a Legends entry is a step up from an Armory entry, but I’d really rather not see any range (as I don’t collect Eldar) lose models.
He didn't show up for rolecall. But who knows, probably sometime when they feel like it. Rather when their children are in the company decades from now, they make him.
It's really unfortunate that the newly revived Deathwatch killed every single Shadow Specter in the universe. What are the odds that every single one of these annoying and overstatted creatures were hunted down to the last? Crazy. What I shame I never have to experience fire&fading flat 3 damage off of -1 to hit 5+ invuln infantry that moves 12" ever again.
@@brothertobias hahahahaha. To be fair, they pretty much totally disappeared from competitive lists like a year ago, But I don't doubt they were frustrating to play into farmies with limited mobility
If the Rana Dandra requires all Phoenix Lords to be accounted for, then 'tis a false prophecy. For never shall we see the battle mask of the Lord of the Crimson Hunters, [content missing]!
Looks like they just focused on the new models, seams very odd to get a scorpion KT set and get rid of the Phoenix lord. I'm sure he will still be legal, and updated model down the line.
they update all the ones I love, include the one I have always wanted and then bye bye to one of my favs :( lol Something to hopefully look forward to in the future Kind of crushes my thought that GW were leading us towards 40k being AOS accessioned as its the same outcome with Russ returning
This might get lost in the comments. But if possible can you turn down the initial noise from the intro. It's just much louder than the rest of your video.
I'm sad, since Karandras is my oldest model. He is the first model I ever purchased 29 years ago. When I read it the first time I didn't pickup that he wasn't going to be available. Maybe in 11th edition we get a Karandras update vs Drazhar update? Confirmation the Incubi and Scorpions are the same aspect and align them with Ynnari?
He isn't gone. Just a stupid way for them to say "we forgot to update the model". A 2nd less likely option, he will be added to the Dark Eldar book. This would be to tie the factions closer together.
Current count of playable aspects is ten. IIRC there's an aspect called the Slicing Orbs in the lore, but no idea how they work as they've never been represented in the game.
Gutted to lose my favourite Phoenix Lord. I heard a while back when the rumours of new sculpts started flying around that GW had straight up forgotten about Karandras in the process of sculpting new stuff. This does have a bit of a whiff of “oh shit we forgot something. Quick, make up some new lore to cover our asses”. 🤦🏼😂
That's lame... the Striking Scorpions aren't my favorite Aspect Warriors, but I love their darker counter parts, the Incubi. But not haveing him while Drazhar is running around is a bummer.
The article stated him as one of the other PLs. I don't read this as he won't be playable. It's at least not a confirmation. I assume they just don't want to show the old derpy model.
hm, FW gone, karan gone, 7th ed corsairs codex gone, rumor for new corsair kit foiled, autarch skyrunner gone... i got aLOT to homebrew if i hope to play again XD. not to mention 3d sculpting & printing out some shrines. Hoping the rules are good for yall still kickin it in 10th, but im a bit disappointed for my own sake.
Did we know all the relationships between the Phoenix lords? Also did we already know Asurmen’s name? And as far as Jain goes couldn’t we just as easily explain it as Jain has lost faith in what the Yinnari are? Jain thought Yvraine was something she wasn’t at the beginning and now is disillusioned with the cause now?
Wrong, Karandras is just delayed. He is not gone. There is also absolutely nothing in the article to indicate that Karandras will not have rules in the codex. Unless you have a copy of the codex in hand right now, stop making unnecessary drama!
@@CatroiOz Lore wise they say he's missing. As in the story. It does not say he is missing from the codex. The new model isn't ready and they probably don't want to show his derpy model next to all the shiny new ones. This is definitely not a confirmation of him being removed.
Have you seen the leaked rules for Shrine Tokens? All I can say is Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. They basically get their own fate dice once per Battle.
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Re: other aspect shrines:
Strung alongside the known aspect runes on his bangles (including the Shadow Spectre Rune), the new Avatar of Khaine has two completely unknown runes... the implication would be that these are two additional aspects of Khaine yet unseen. Bear in mind that they plan model releases sometimes over a decade in advance.
Also, they could always release Karandras and the Shadow Spectres in plastic. If anything, plastic spectres would be a monumental upgrade over the spindly fragile resin ones.
A Phoenix Lord is never late, Frodo Baggins. Neither are they early. They arrive precisely when they mean-AHHHH! KARANDRAS, I TOLD YOU TO STOP JUMPING OUT AND SCARING ME LIKE THAT!
To huff a ton of copium Karandras has went to a maiden world to teach eldar exodites in the ways of aspects and is gonna roll up at some point with a squad of dragon riders.
Karandras is mentioned in the Other Phoenix Lords paragraph. They probably just didn't want to show a picture of the derpy dude.
Yep, they didn’t make a new model so he’s in the timeout corner.
I'm hoping this is correct. How can they remove the established Striking Scorpions PL?? They just didn't want to show his model
Or the fact he’s mentioned with the Phoenix lord of the specters that will go to legends and the one of the spears that’s never had a model… he is gone. Too early to speculate but perhaps GW didn’t forget to make a new one of him.
In the article it says he is currently lost, which with any other character (Jagatai, Yarrick, Erebus) is understood as, "not in game," but the real indicator is if they are selling his model. If yes, in codex, if no, legends. I'm just in a rush, I can't check. And if he is legends, just use legends, literally rules saying you can.
Striking scorpions and warp spiders are my two favorite aspects so I hope we didnt trade one arachnid PL for another.
There's another reason for Jain Zar to pull back, now with Fulgrim coming back and it looks like Fulgrim is wielding the last crone sword that would allow the Aeldari to save themselves without having to die that Jain is looking to go after Fulgrim, or draw him out, to get that last crone sword (and this could be where Kharandras has gone, to hunt down Fulgrim and get that crone sword).
He isnt wielding the cronesword
@@seaofenergy2765 you might want to go back and look at the warhammer community shots of Fulgrim, he's definitely wielding the crone sword (Lucius has the Laer blade)
@csdn4483 nah there was some text from GW that said what swords he is carrying. There is no crone sword
@@seaofenergy2765 Where is this text? The warhammer community post in question says: "Some of his weapons are manifestations of Fulgrim’s sheer will, others are trophies taken from worthy opponents, though some have spotted a heavy but relatively plain broadsword among this ever-rotating armoury." It seems strange to highlight the 'relatively plain broadsword'... It's also interesting that the publicity shots don't give a clear view of this sword, even after highlighting it in the text.
@robertwareham8466 thats the one ferrus made him
I know it's higly unlikely, but between abbadon pointing out during arks of omen how unusualy quiet the eldar curently are, the vanishing of karandras, jain-zar leaving the ynnari and becoming "narratively free" again like the other Phoenix lords and the huge release of New Phoenix Lord models coinciding with the release of the emperor's children gets me cautiously hyped something big will happen Lorewise.
The idea of Fulgrim killing karandras and consequently triggering a huge war between the forces of slaanesh and all the current Phoenix lords is something I can't get out of my head, the eldar need an objective and a foil, and having Fulgrim as the champion of slaanesh waging war against the whole eldar species would give new purpose for both factions
But you can't kill a phoenix lord....
@IamtheWV17 yeah, but when you're Fulgrim, you can always yeet the armor into slaanesh's domain... Which is functionaly the same as dying but way more horrifying.
Also, given his patron, I wouldn't be surprised if Fulgrim was capable of doing something like soul vampirism with eldar soulstones, drinking them like margaritas and shit...
@muriomoira ohhh that would be wild.... soul draining phoenix lord armour..... yeeeeesh
Noooooooooo! Karandras lives! Just like Vulken lives! Or else the game breaks.
@benbaxter1047 im sorry, but by GW's rules elves are only allowed to narratively progress and get a W if they get a huge L too.
our faction is powered by our misery, Im not the one who made the rules lol
My gut feeling is that Karandras might be a model we get with an end of edition book like those in Psychic Awakening. "Secrets of the Scorpion" or "Wrath of the Scorpion" something like that.
Also, if the Rana Dandra needs all of the Phoenix Lords to occur, him disappearing so they can't all meet up is real forward thinking.
As it is now, Drastanta of the Shining Spear has been gone for like, FOREVER already. Unless he popped out one of these days, there will never be Rhana Dandra.
And if they need *every* Phoenix Lord to be present, then I suspect that Ah'ra/Drazhar will have to be there as well.
Great video Brent! I'm so excited to go through this codex release and get your videos on everything! Keep up the good work
It's the "Lore Reason" for their Oops. My boys went to LVO a few years back and spoke to a former GW guy. According to the former designer, Primaris was supposed to simply be "True Scale Marines" in plastic, but Marketing stepped in and said "Nobody'd buy them if they were just True Scale Marines, make 'em their own thing!" Not sure how much credence to put into that, but..... Now, the mention of the Spears PL has me going 11th Ed character release???????
I would be really surprised if he doesn't show up in some kind of End-of-Edition narrative sometime in 2026. Similarly to Farsight last Edition.
All these primarchs coming back and we can't hold onto the pheonix lords? slurp harder on smurfs, white tower.
All of this is why I like my Exodites concept that's just a port of my old Wood Elves army into 40k with some conversions. I can play whatever rules and lore I want.
I got the biggest smile on my face today at work when the detachment was reveled! VERY EXCITED!
You lost a Harvester, but you gained a bunker
GG
It would be so funny if Eldar get more lore because a project manager forgot Karandras so they now have to fit him in lol.
I am beyond stoked there is finally a Warp Spiders Phoenix Lord, and I'll be honest, I never really cared for Striking Scorpions, but damn... I think it sucks a ton to lose any Phoenix Lord. It's such an amazing dynamic that if there is an Aspect warrior, there is an Exarch, and there is a Phoenix Lord.
As for the lore feeling weird, you know what mike it feel less weird and make way more sense? Write more books about anything other than Space Marines.
Heya Brent. Thanks as always for the great content!
Great discovery! Thanks for sharing as i would’ve missed it.
GW are probably planning to release an updated Karandras model teaming up with Jaghatai Khan of the White Scars
@@EtherRich23 I expect he will be back in 11th edition
Also missing for several codexes now (despite one being the leader of the Eldar poster boys) Nudahu Fireheart (the big Saim Hann leader) and Iyanna Arienal (from Iyanden)
I'll be sad to lose all of my forge world models (lynx, hornets, Shadow spectres). While I hope they'll come back on plastic sometime, I expect my spectres might work as counts-as swooping hawk models. At least, that seems the closest reasonable substitution.
See this is the thing- if there are an unknown quantity of aspects, there's also an unknown number of phoenix lords. GIB KARANDRAS BAK!
Weird, we got the leak of how to build Karandras in plastic. It looked very legitimate. I honestly think he is going to be back based on that. I could be wrong, but I don't think they are going to get rid of him. Lore wise the elves can't go away until Fuegan destroys chaos. I don't see that happening any time soon. They would be wiping out over half their armies. It would require them to completely reset the game or go out of business and decide the time has come to close out the story.
Where?
@@LoftOfTheUniverse Now I feel like I'm going crazy and can't find it. I swear there was build instruction manual that was shown online. The poster said they got the wrong instructions in there model box and it had Karandras instructions. I watched a video or 2 about it.
@Gray_Falcon it was probably fuegan.
It's a shame Karandras is missing from the refresh, I recon he'll tie in with the reboxing of the scorpions when they get rotated out of kill team and fully into 40k in a year or two.
It's not every Phoenix Lord being around that causes the "Eldar End Times" it's when they're all gathered at the same place or am I miss remembering?
And until they bring back the shining spears Phoenix lords it can't happen anyway
It's when they're all gathered on the same battlefield. I think the idea being to discourage Eldar players from running all the Phoenix Lords in a list since narratively they're supposed to be Primarch tier demigods
@@thatguyonline5083 I just want my Phoenix lords jetbike! The silver flame
Aspect Shrines introduced in-game since the Warp Spiders in 2nd Ed:
Shining Spears.
Crimson Hunters.
And They'll probably never give us a crimson hunter phoenix lord at this point.
Shadow Spectres
@@mrspeigel3593 True enough! Dunno why I forgot them!
I heard that they genuinely forgot about karandras existing, that’s why he didn’t also get an updated model
Excellente vidéo, tout est dit ! Et trop nul Games de nous enlever Karandras et Irilyth, un déjà ça faisait mal, mais deux, alors qu'on a toujours pas Drastanta en plus... ça m'a dégouté à vie. Je n'achèterai plus de fig tant qu'au moins un des deux soit revenu.
This paint project if Aelves will be insane. Banners on everything reeee
Great update!! Love the in depth explanation. Sorry i made a duplicate comment that someone else had already made...... But i figured at least it was 1 more comment!
I love your videos but please look at the volume mix in the intro, it's SO LOUD
It hurts my ears everytime
Not being in the codex doesn't rule out a future model released as part of an event. If they do that they will include the rules in the book that goes with it like they have for the previous times they did something like that.
The eldar army list has changed the least of any 40k army. Every unit that existed in 2nd ed still exists, the shadow spectres and crimson hunters are the only new aspects they've ever released. spiders and spears were both in the 2nd ed codex albeit without models....
The only part of the 2nd ed list they haven't released yet are the exodite dragon knights. It's pretty remarkable if you look at the 2nd ed list just how little has been added or changed to the army.
Thanks for the video!
I had been under the impression that they had forgotten Karandras and were releasing the new mini later but this comes off as GW deciding to not bother with even that which is a slap in the face...
Keep it coming!
Well, his little model may look pathetic on the field, but maybe that's what I want my enemy to think...
Karandras smartened up and joined Ahra on the dark side :)
Imma keep playing with my Shadow Spectres. My group is generally cool with Legends. Karandras will probably come back at some point, but I don't see it ever happening for Iryllith and Shadow Spectres
I think it'd be neat if there were rules for creating your own Aspect Shrine for use in Crusade/Narrative play. I love the idea of my homebrew Craftworld having its own unique kind of Aspect Warrior but it's not something that could really be reflected in the game currently.
I was hoping we would get more on Exodites in next edition.
thanks for the vid
I may well be wrong, but I feel like you've misread the Ynnari and particularly Eldrad's intentions for them. Eldrad is actively trying to prevent the Rhana Dandra, precisely because it will lead to the death of all the eldar and thus the birth of Ynnead (who will supposedly then go on to defeat Slaanesh). That's what the whole ritual/battle on Coheria was about: Eldrad attempting to awaken Ynnead early, so the eldar didn't have to die. He and Yvraine also believe that reuniting the five crone swords is another way of awakening Ynnead, so that's what the Ynnari are currently tasked with doing. If that wasn't the case, there's no reason for Jain Zar to split from the other Phoenix Lords as the Phoenix Lords are already working towards Rhana Dandra.
The way I read that bit about Jain Zar distancing herself from Yvraine is that she is becoming uncomfortable with the ease with which Yvraine will spend lives, when Jain Zar had been convinced by Eldrad that the ultimate goal was to save eldar lives. Jain Zar was also pursued by howling banshees from the Iybraesil craftworld whose intention was to remind her that her first loyalty was to all the eldar, not just the Ynnari, so perhaps that played a part, too. I'm definitely looking forward to reading the new lore when it comes, anyway, when we can get concrete answers to these questions.
Personally, it's my belief that Ynnead isn't what Eldrad believes she is, and in fact the new eldar god is some kind of bait and switch by Slaanesh. N'kari certainly seems to be keeping tabs on Eldrad's progress and doesn't entirely seem to be hindering him, whereas the Slaaneshi daemons have been shown to be far more hostile towards the Phoenix Lords.
Another possibility I think is on the table is that Ynnead simply isn't the eldar god Eldrad thinks she is. Not that she isn't being fed by the deaths of the eldar and is growing in power, that is, but it's probably worth remembering that it's ambiguous what the other eldar gods actually were - it's entirely possible they weren't 'gods' at all (in the warp entity sense), and were rather super advanced pieces of technology created during the war in heaven to fight against the necrons. If that's the case, Ynnead's birth would be more akin to the birth of Slaanesh, and we've already seen how a god created from the psyche of the eldar turns out. I'm not sure why Eldrad believes Ynnead would turn out any different. Or, in fact, why a god of the dead would have any interest in preserving life at all, except perhaps as a gradually replenishing fuel source.
Hillarious - I’mma say this is a soft confirm from GW that Karandras transitioned and is now also wandering around Commoragh as a second Drazhar.
You mean he too turned to the dark side..?
Sad to hear Mr. ShadowSlaughter McMurderDeath and Shadow Specters will not get into the codex. I’m feel like a Legends entry is a step up from an Armory entry, but I’d really rather not see any range (as I don’t collect Eldar) lose models.
This video is short because is the calm before the storm ;-)
Gutted, I really wanted Karandras for my army.
He didn't show up for rolecall. But who knows, probably sometime when they feel like it. Rather when their children are in the company decades from now, they make him.
I'm guessing his model is going to get a design refresh and they're trying to figure out the design
I still own my old Karandras model, and I love the guy! They BETTER not take him out
It's really unfortunate that the newly revived Deathwatch killed every single Shadow Specter in the universe. What are the odds that every single one of these annoying and overstatted creatures were hunted down to the last? Crazy. What I shame I never have to experience fire&fading flat 3 damage off of -1 to hit 5+ invuln infantry that moves 12" ever again.
@@brothertobias hahahahaha. To be fair, they pretty much totally disappeared from competitive lists like a year ago, But I don't doubt they were frustrating to play into farmies with limited mobility
If the Rana Dandra requires all Phoenix Lords to be accounted for, then 'tis a false prophecy.
For never shall we see the battle mask of the Lord of the Crimson Hunters, [content missing]!
@@Tearen0 😆
Likes for the likes god. Comments for the comments throne!!!!
I'm pretty sure that Karandras will get rules for 10th and we'll see him soon. Hopefully leading the second wave of Eldar releases with new Aspects!
I’m glad I opted to make a striking scorpion autarch wayleaper even though it’s not as good. In my head canon, Karan is just an Autarch now
What do you mean Karandras is gone? Go find him.
I refuse to believe this until I see the codex.
TYPICAL, I JUST BROUGHT KARANDRAS...
Screw GW for nixing Karandras - you don't take away from your customers.
Looks like they just focused on the new models, seams very odd to get a scorpion KT set and get rid of the Phoenix lord. I'm sure he will still be legal, and updated model down the line.
they update all the ones I love, include the one I have always wanted and then bye bye to one of my favs :( lol
Something to hopefully look forward to in the future
Kind of crushes my thought that GW were leading us towards 40k being AOS accessioned as its the same outcome with Russ returning
Ffs they are punishing us for their own stupidity of forgetting him
Where did you read that Karandras will get no datasheet/rules? I am curious
I guess we’ll find out when the actual codex comes out. Until then…
It could be back in another way that separate from the actual book release it’s happened often
Centuries? Is he out hunting Necrons?
Seeing how next to nothing lives that long in 40K 😅
This might get lost in the comments. But if possible can you turn down the initial noise from the intro. It's just much louder than the rest of your video.
I'm sad, since Karandras is my oldest model. He is the first model I ever purchased 29 years ago. When I read it the first time I didn't pickup that he wasn't going to be available. Maybe in 11th edition we get a Karandras update vs Drazhar update? Confirmation the Incubi and Scorpions are the same aspect and align them with Ynnari?
Pretty bloody devestated but Lyhkis is helping to soothe it
This comment needs more powerful sounding adjectives. But not adverbs.
@@AlamoMelt 😅
He isn't gone. Just a stupid way for them to say "we forgot to update the model". A 2nd less likely option, he will be added to the Dark Eldar book. This would be to tie the factions closer together.
gotta love those retcons
Wow, I’d completely skipped over that in the article. Interesting. I wonder if he’ll be back in a campaign/crusade pack later
Aren't these old models that are now rebranded?
Who’s ready to find out how eldar will break the game this time?
Current count of playable aspects is ten. IIRC there's an aspect called the Slicing Orbs in the lore, but no idea how they work as they've never been represented in the game.
I wonder if Yvraine can revive arhra and the other phoenix lords back to living bodies. I don't think the data sheet for Karandras is going away
Don't worry about eldar being disbanded, cegorach will of course save us and gw will get rid of all of chaos over us.
It's only logical
RIP Uncle K 😢
Gutted to lose my favourite Phoenix Lord. I heard a while back when the rumours of new sculpts started flying around that GW had straight up forgotten about Karandras in the process of sculpting new stuff. This does have a bit of a whiff of “oh shit we forgot something. Quick, make up some new lore to cover our asses”. 🤦🏼😂
Interesting
I think he'll come back in some sort of box set release later this year.
@@dylanvodden1369 we will find out when the codex drops
dude they did him dirty
Can we trade Baharroth for Karandras? My jump pack sniper unit doesn't need a melee champion, but my melee unit could really do with one.
OK, was waiting to get the GW Karandras but with this news I'll just hit up 3rd party for a new sculpt to use in OPR
That's lame... the Striking Scorpions aren't my favorite Aspect Warriors, but I love their darker counter parts, the Incubi. But not haveing him while Drazhar is running around is a bummer.
Is the video title meant to be is gone ?😂
The article stated him as one of the other PLs. I don't read this as he won't be playable. It's at least not a confirmation. I assume they just don't want to show the old derpy model.
I hope this doesn’t s not true! Could we opt to sacrifice Maugan Ra instead?!
I hope youre wrong about Karandras being excluded in the codex. I regularly run Karandras in my lists.
hm, FW gone, karan gone, 7th ed corsairs codex gone, rumor for new corsair kit foiled, autarch skyrunner gone... i got aLOT to homebrew if i hope to play again XD. not to mention 3d sculpting & printing out some shrines. Hoping the rules are good for yall still kickin it in 10th, but im a bit disappointed for my own sake.
Did we know all the relationships between the Phoenix lords? Also did we already know Asurmen’s name? And as far as Jain goes couldn’t we just as easily explain it as Jain has lost faith in what the Yinnari are? Jain thought Yvraine was something she wasn’t at the beginning and now is disillusioned with the cause now?
Oh my god I literally just made a proxy for karandras 😢
10:28 lies. Crimson Hunters were introduced in 6th edition.
@@AvocadoDandy touche
All the new phoenix Lords are cool but karandras and striking scorpions are the coolest aspect warriors and phoenix lord, this is not ok
For the algorithm :)
Wrong, Karandras is just delayed. He is not gone. There is also absolutely nothing in the article to indicate that Karandras will not have rules in the codex. Unless you have a copy of the codex in hand right now, stop making unnecessary drama!
I’ll be the daemon on the other shoulder and say “YESSS more drama! Do whatever you must for the clicks, the views. Boost the algorithm!”
The article literally states Karandras has gone missing mate
@@CatroiOz Lore wise they say he's missing. As in the story. It does not say he is missing from the codex. The new model isn't ready and they probably don't want to show his derpy model next to all the shiny new ones. This is definitely not a confirmation of him being removed.
So Karandras is like Gandalf at Rivendell. Frodo "where were you?" Gandalf "I was delayed"
Maybe the they just update him later this team an bring him with a Christmas box.
The lore excuse is dumb, they can always just say the Eagle Pilot or whatever Phoenix Lord is gone.
Have you seen the leaked rules for Shrine Tokens? All I can say is Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. They basically get their own fate dice once per Battle.
Would rather have karandras than maganra
we want Karandras!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!