Ah yes, FromSoft and their very intricate quest design. If you don't give poo poo pee pee the stone of yabba dabba doo at exactly 10:48 on a rainy Thursday night, your quest is fked. I love FromSoft and own the games they have, but unless you have guides like this, you're screwed.
Fr, actual Doo Doo caca, can't get anything done in this game without a guide telling me the exact times and locations I need to do everything in order or else a quest or npc gets locked , dumb af
The worst part is when you burn the sealing tree without starting any of the questlines you get permanently locked out of them and the game doesn’t tell you lol. How am I supposed to know that without a guide? Terrible design
@@landengilberti2480 i tryd with thiollier a few times until i chose to do it alone because he wasnt coming inside the boss arena. I beated the boss alone and i was able to collect his armor set after resting at a grace in the boss arena
@@Kevvv890k Thiollier is absolutely useless. Summon Ansbach if you want to, but Thiollier just means Boss has more HP while he himself does absolutely no damage at all.
@levampblaze6312 so basically I burnt the shadow tree before I began his quest, and once you burn the shadow tree it locks you out from multiple npc quests, so because I burnt the tree before talking to him , he disappeared and i couldn't summon him during the final boss
@@bigchinbrother9069 I’ll give fromsoft props for a lot, but their esoteric, very vaguely explained quests have always been fucking atrocious. Basically can’t do them without following a Wiki, which I didn’t want to have to do my first playthrough of the DLC. Because of this choice, I’m now finding out that I’ve locked myself out of a lot of quests and rewards. Don’t really want to have to go into NG+3 to do it all over again.
@levampblaze6312 If you still need it explained, basically if you unlock the final area of the map via defeating Romina and using Messmer's Kindling, you are locked out of the NPC quests.
if you pulled the lever before getting to the fourth floor here’s what you can do: spawn at the grace that has freya and go down the stairs right in front of the spawn. it’ll be one flight of stairs and then you go right to swing around those and there will be another flight going down again and then keep going forward passed one of the fire knights, through a pathway that gets narrow right after the knight and then shortly after that you’ll see a doorway to your left with bats right outside and if you head right after that you’ll see the stairs going down to the fourth floor and then go back and go down further passed another fire knight, down more stairs and there you’ll find the grace and cross
Dawg thats hilarious because youre fully right. In a way its like real life. You really have to put two and two together and if you have droop lip like me youll miss everything 🤣
they are more like randomized egg hunts. You don't know where to look, nobody tells you you have to go to a place you have previously been. You don't really know who you have to talk to for a quest, like in this case leda, she had nothing to do with the quest, yet she is somehow involved in it. It's just lazy design tbh. You just go back and forth and hope you progress.
I went back to where ansbach was standing and he was gone but there was a summon sighn that let me join a fight between ansbach and leda. For helping ansbach i recieved ansbach's bow
@@saurabhtantry5550 weird because there should be a help ansbach and a help leda in the spot ansbach was standing Help ansbach If you want all the rewards for both sides
Update only took like a minute to kill him, that bow hits hard an he shoots fast lol. I also got the bow an his armour. Same rewards I guess??? That sucks lol was hoping for different rewards, because he definitely cooler than the girl.
@@killtality8066 there are different rewards! If you help Leda go back and speak with her after the invasion and you get a new talisman doing so locks you out of a spell you get from ansbach after he helps with the final boss
PSA: I found Sir Ansbach's summon sign in the first floor right AFTER burning the tree, then I went and spoke to Leda, found new dialogue about how he couldn't be trusted, then went ahead to the first floor and saw the 2 signs in his last location. I don't know if other people's attempts are the same or differ, but if you tried everything else, this could be it. Hope this helps.
U should have done all this before burning the tree so u could get both rewards after encountering them in the final two bosses. U haven’t fully messed up but I believe u can’t get all rewards, just one depending on who u help
Once you give Ansbach the scroll and exhaust his dialogue, you can just reload the area via quitting out to receive the letter, there’s no need to go and talk to Leda.
@@danieldominguez2419 I just killed her near the grace she’s at bro she dropped her armour and sword or if you don’t give her the letter an come back after the enir ilm fight her shield supposed to drop apparently
Leda has her own quest that triggers summons fights. 2 that im aware of now against hornsent and ansbach!!! You get to choose who to side with!!! Read my comment above
suggest thiollier does nothing. she just says nah hes kool. Suggesting Hornsent triggers a summons fight in the shadow keep and you have to choose sides. If u choose Leda you get all of Hornsents gear. Then go bk n talk to Leda and she decides to kill Ansbach next. Do this quest in the vid and when Ansbach disappears you will get another summons fight and have to choose sides!!!
I went to ansbach first before freja and gave him the scroll before i talked to her. Now he's gone and never gave me the letter for her even though i exhausted his dialogue. Then freja is just stuck and I have no letter to give her?? Is this just a bug or is this story line to strict
Nah hes gettin bodied right now. This fool failed to mention this quest is tied with Ledas quest I killed hornsent with her and got all his gear and about to kill Ansbach aswell and prob gettin all his gear!!! Read up top for my comment on how to do this quest properly if you want weapons n gear!!! Ledas the boss my boi Ansbach a washed up old man and needs to be put down lol!!!!
@samnyce I don't know about you, but Ansbach is the only one who had my back when I got jumped by Leda and her goons. He damn near killed Leda by himself. Besides, I still got all their gear at the end.
So I did the part for Ansbach but Freya is still there (Ansbach was gone before I could give his help to Freya and she’s just there but he’s gone (I already aided him against Leda). Should he still be available to summon later?
@@solairethesunlightwarrior8813 fr and i hate that one of the best talismans is locked behind siding with leda to kill ansbach, reminds me of killing alexander for a early boost in aow damage
I don’t know if this only applies after the patch but you can still complete these side quests after you burn the tree. I just did Thollier’s and Ansbach’s quests after I used Mesmer’s Kindling.
You missed a step right before burning the tree. After both ansbach and freyja are gone you need to reload the area where ansbach was. He left a gold summons for you and you need to aid him in a fight against leda. No idea if that's required for the questline but better do it to make sure
@@ConCon interesting! Seems things are different for some folk. I couldn't talk to leda about hornsent either. Great video man appreciate all you do for people!
IF Ansbach is gone but there are no summon signs, it’s possible that Leda is focusing on a DIFFERENT PERSON. Specifically, from the golden hippo grace, go out the right door (it might need to be opened from the other side first) go up the stairs, and immediately to the right, look on the ground for summon signs. Use the red one, and after this is complete, go talk to Leda again, exhaust dialog, and THEN go check where Ansbach used to be
After you give Ansbach Freyja's letter, he responds, you go back to the grace but once going back to where Ansbach is, you have a choice, help Freyja or Ansbach. That information is left out of this video. So which is it?? Help Ansbach or Freyja?? Guess it's up to you where you want your quest to go. Still a great video/tutorial on this part. Helped me out a bunch. Thanks :)
Note for the early questline if niether of them are in Shadow Keep: After the Great Rune is broken just outside the Shadow Keep, talk to Ansbach and Freyja about the event. Exhaust both of their dialogues completely and then rest at a grace to move them forward, they should now be in Shadow Keep.
So mine was out of order, i didnt know what to do w them and i killed mesmer and thats when i gave him the scroll and i got pretty much most dialogue except the letter. I did find a letter on the site of grace w michellas cross saying i think leda going to rauh bridge but i have no idea how to get there or where it is
Thanks for the walkthrough. Also even if you burn the shadow tree you can still complete both Thollier and Ansbachs questline and get them as summons. The only way to lock yourself out of ansbach is if you kill him or do not give him the scroll.
I just beat radahn on my ng+7 main file... now I want to go through with my more fresh int/faith character... I bet it's a LOT easier this time around lol
@@all149 hey figured it out. spawn at the grace that has freya and go down the stairs right in front of the spawn. it’ll be one flight of stairs and then you go right to swing around those and there will be another flight going down again and then keep going forward passed one of the fire knights, through a pathway that gets narrow right after the knight and then shortly after that you’ll see a doorway to your left with bats right outside and if you head right after that you’ll see the stairs going down to the fourth floor and then go back and go down further and you’ll see more stairs going down to the grace and a cross
No joke got a glitch from Ansbach, so... when you talk to him before Radahn I got the prompt to tell him about Mohg's death. Then once i clicked that it came up saying "God Slain" and it gave me the Radahn remembrance and i went to his boss room and site of grace was there with Ansbach dead on the right. So yeah it insta killed Radahn.
You can get his bow an armour back at the first place you talked to him, but if you beat the dlc I don't think you'll be able to get it... But go back to the first spot an should be two summon signs one red one gold, so far from what i know 100% the red summon will give you his stuff idk about the gold
I was able to do the questlines after already burning the tree, I think its because I had not yet confronted leda at Enir-Ilim yet. so thats great to know.
I find it funny that "if you burn the tree some NPC's will dissapear", which makes sense but I haven't finished all NPCs rn and I didn't burn the tree but Thiollier and St. Trina are the only NPCs that are still existing. I did finish ansnach for that part tho.
I thought I fckd up this quest because after Ansbach and Freyja stuff the invasion mark wasn't popping..... But when I got to Leda he was there to summon somehow I think it was because I helped hornsent against Leda
Okay cool. I haven't found the fourth floor I guess. I find relief that I didn't screw up the quest but also would have never figured this out on my own at the same time lol
I aided Hornsent during the leda questline now i did all the Sir Ansbach quest but when leda comes for him , they just disappeared ? no summon signs at all as well as freya
Yeah I’m ngl, I burned the tree before I finished ansbachs/freyja quest in shadow keep. I would still complete their quest before you burn the tree just to make sure but I don’t think it locks you out
i see, this was why my last bostfight was so difficult. as i havent finished 2 of these npc's quest, i have no one to summon. i thought the only way was to git gud, play OP weapons or play Wall of China strat. in the end i defeated the boss using the new bonk build (also bonked my desk a few times) in 4 hours of epic cursing moments
I first told with him about the secret, now he is nowhere to be found. Can me someone help. The knight leda already wanted to join the hornsent so i guess i didn't anything wrong.
I pulled the lever to move the statues and now i cant pull it agian to get to the grace edit: from messmers boss arena cross the bridge and turn right and you can jump down on a platform and then jump again and you'll get to the grace
Hi. Figured out a solution. Go to the room beneath the Seventh floor bonfire where Freyja is. Then drop down onto the hand of the suspended corpse, then walk accros the ledge and drop down to the bonfire.
I hate how the messmer fight its in a random fucking door after opening so many in the shadow keep, it locks you in a cutscene when you open it, and it locked me out of leda's quest. Now i cant do the leda vs horsent nor the ansback vs leda. Great quest desing!
I went to Freya first and started speaking to her. This resulted in her attacking me afterwards. I had to go to the curch of vows to remove her aggro on me lol
Apparently these guys were figuring everything out without me bc while I've been dying and training for the shadow keep (I can't even get past the first sets of stairs after the hippo), they've been moving around and deciding they want to kill each other without a single decision from myself 😭 I don't know what to do
Once you get to the final boss you don’t have to summon him to progress the quest, I would recommend not summoning him as doing so scales the bosses health along with the other quest npc doing the same making the fight far more difficult
No idea what I did wrong but I entered the room that Ansbach is in as soon as I got to that place and he was marked as an enemy and tried killing me. So, I killed him not knowing anything about this quest line. Now I’m eyeing up Freyja because I’m pretty sure the only way I’m getting anything from her is to kill her now. These quests are too obscure.
Try to go to the church of inhibition in the normal World. There is a big statue where you can give her a tear and it will grand you absolution. Maybe she will be alive after that
When I return to Ainsbach on the first floor, to give Freya's message, instead of him being there, I get a red and gold summoning sign. One to help Leda to kill him, and another to help him against Leda.
Okay so I got to the point before you burned the tree (haven’t progressed far enough in story) and when I went back I had the summons “be summoned to Addis sir ansbach” and “assist needle knight Leda” at the first floor of storehouse
Doing this without a guide is nothing short of ridiculous. I wonder if Fromsoft will ever decide to make their quests more consumable for the average player.
Thanks for the no spoiler warning dude, any competent player let alone RUclipsr making a guide should know to include a spoiler warning before spoiling a major event, I'd watch it's shatter, he's respectful about that sort of thing and makes extremely competent quest guides
So I actually beat Mesmer and burned the tree before doing any of this and the were both still in shadow keep and I was able to go to ansbach laughing about freyja through and through.
The suggesting is more to do with the other npcs quest lines. Where your at with them you can suggest them. Leda later will say ansbach is one she will fetter out.
If sir ansbach does not give you the letter to give to Freya, rest at site of grace to reload the area and return to ansbach he will give you the letter after reloading .
After I got the shield I went to first floor but the dude disappeared before I could pass on the letter. Edit:- After I defeated Messmer I got the sign to either assist Leda or Ansbach. Wait the 2nd npc Thiollier has already been defeated by me. They are now lying near St. Trina. Can I still summon her during last boss battle?
Eat St Trina’s nectar until she tells you to kill miquella, then tell that to thiollier, reset site of grace, and if thiollier is saying “A-ah” you will be able to summon them
@@fake_7106 there’s a difference between a quest being ‘spoon fed’ and a quest being almost impossible to complete without clear guidance. People miss out on key rewards because it’s unclear on what they have to do in the next step of the quest, and sometimes accidentally mess up the quest by killing a boss… which the game encourages you to do. It’s trashy design.
I burned the tree and both thiollier and ansbach questlines and npcs were there adterwards. Havent beaten last boss yet though so hopefully they spawn there yellow summon sign for me
I was doing the quest, but when I went to get the letter from Ansbach he just disappeared, Freyja is still there and I’ve exhausted all of her dialogue
Not sure if it's still relevant to you but from what I'm aware of you don't need to summon him and you can find his corpse in the final boss arena to get his loot
Ok so problem I killed freya before handing her the letter ansbach wasn’t in the sore house but his summon sign to help him kill Leda was idk what in gods name I did but I got a whole new guest line 😂
Ah yes, FromSoft and their very intricate quest design. If you don't give poo poo pee pee the stone of yabba dabba doo at exactly 10:48 on a rainy Thursday night, your quest is fked. I love FromSoft and own the games they have, but unless you have guides like this, you're screwed.
Fr, actual Doo Doo caca, can't get anything done in this game without a guide telling me the exact times and locations I need to do everything in order or else a quest or npc gets locked , dumb af
The worst part is when you burn the sealing tree without starting any of the questlines you get permanently locked out of them and the game doesn’t tell you lol. How am I supposed to know that without a guide? Terrible design
@@deadshotz8745and worse is they expect you to figure this out on your own. Ik it’s purposeful design, but it’s still fuckin’ terrible!
It’s outrageous how you have to do a random gesture infront of a random statue to access one of the most important areas for the game’s lore
If you dont like the game, leave a bad review and dont play it again
the fact the final boss with both summons on plus 7 has like 200,000 health is insane 😭😂
@@landengilberti2480 i tryd with thiollier a few times until i chose to do it alone because he wasnt coming inside the boss arena. I beated the boss alone and i was able to collect his armor set after resting at a grace in the boss arena
@@Kevvv890kSummoning Thiollier gives the boss extra health
@@Kevvv890k Thiollier is absolutely useless. Summon Ansbach if you want to, but Thiollier just means Boss has more HP while he himself does absolutely no damage at all.
I’m on plus 9 it’s great 😅
@@DTraiN5795 plus 7 is Max
I only found out he helps you in the final fight AFTER i burnt the tree, so now i can't get his help , awesome
Can you explain properly?
@levampblaze6312 so basically I burnt the shadow tree before I began his quest, and once you burn the shadow tree it locks you out from multiple npc quests, so because I burnt the tree before talking to him , he disappeared and i couldn't summon him during the final boss
@@bigchinbrother9069 I’ll give fromsoft props for a lot, but their esoteric, very vaguely explained quests have always been fucking atrocious. Basically can’t do them without following a Wiki, which I didn’t want to have to do my first playthrough of the DLC. Because of this choice, I’m now finding out that I’ve locked myself out of a lot of quests and rewards. Don’t really want to have to go into NG+3 to do it all over again.
@levampblaze6312 If you still need it explained, basically if you unlock the final area of the map via defeating Romina and using Messmer's Kindling, you are locked out of the NPC quests.
I was going to go back and figure out these quests after climbing the tower…..my plans!
if you pulled the lever before getting to the fourth floor here’s what you can do: spawn at the grace that has freya and go down the stairs right in front of the spawn. it’ll be one flight of stairs and then you go right to swing around those and there will be another flight going down again and then keep going forward passed one of the fire knights, through a pathway that gets narrow right after the knight and then shortly after that you’ll see a doorway to your left with bats right outside and if you head right after that you’ll see the stairs going down to the fourth floor and then go back and go down further passed another fire knight, down more stairs and there you’ll find the grace and cross
Thank you so much I was looking for this in the comments
Thank you so much!
You save me brother thank you
Thank you so much ♥️
Holy you saved me, thank you
These cant even be considered as quests. They're more like riddles or puzzles.
Dawg thats hilarious because youre fully right. In a way its like real life. You really have to put two and two together and if you have droop lip like me youll miss everything 🤣
I did the ansbach quest on my first blind playthrough. But i did miss the thollier questline.
they are more like randomized egg hunts. You don't know where to look, nobody tells you you have to go to a place you have previously been. You don't really know who you have to talk to for a quest, like in this case leda, she had nothing to do with the quest, yet she is somehow involved in it. It's just lazy design tbh. You just go back and forth and hope you progress.
Poor quest design. Lockout because i gave the scroll before talking to freyja
I literally just did this. God I hate how they still are so shitty in the quest design department. It’s just stupid
Just close session and start game again, got the letter that way.
I didn't get the letter first try, but restarting session did the trick
@@RattenKaterCharr it gave me the letter but I cant tell freyja abt it
I also just did this if they swapped freyas and ansbachs locations i think i would be slightly less frustrated
@@RattenKaterCharrYou the real hero, thank you 🙏🏻
ansbach is honestly my favorite npc in this
Dude igon is my favorite, even if his questline is super short. just becasue his VA did such a good job with his lines
@@arknaw9097 CURSE YOU BAAAAAAAYLE!!!
@@arknaw9097 i like him too
“One thing is certain, my dear lord deserved better” Mohg beat the allegations but at what cost..😔
well too fucking bad for me because he completely disappeared because i gave him the fucking scroll before meeting Frejya! fuck you FromSoft
I went back to where ansbach was standing and he was gone but there was a summon sighn that let me join a fight between ansbach and leda. For helping ansbach i recieved ansbach's bow
After 4:08, I went to storehouse, and I couldn’t find the golden sign the floor. They’ve just both disappeared completely
@@saurabhtantry5550 weird because there should be a help ansbach and a help leda in the spot ansbach was standing
Help ansbach If you want all the rewards for both sides
I'm going to help Leda I'll let you know what reward I get. I'm not much of a bow guy so thanks for letting Us know your reward.
Update only took like a minute to kill him, that bow hits hard an he shoots fast lol. I also got the bow an his armour. Same rewards I guess??? That sucks lol was hoping for different rewards, because he definitely cooler than the girl.
@@killtality8066 there are different rewards! If you help Leda go back and speak with her after the invasion and you get a new talisman doing so locks you out of a spell you get from ansbach after he helps with the final boss
PSA: I found Sir Ansbach's summon sign in the first floor right AFTER burning the tree, then I went and spoke to Leda, found new dialogue about how he couldn't be trusted, then went ahead to the first floor and saw the 2 signs in his last location. I don't know if other people's attempts are the same or differ, but if you tried everything else, this could be it. Hope this helps.
I didnt burn the tree, I gave the letter to freyja and when i went back to ansbach I saw the two summon signs.
U should have done all this before burning the tree so u could get both rewards after encountering them in the final two bosses. U haven’t fully messed up but I believe u can’t get all rewards, just one depending on who u help
Imma try this brb
great now my quest is messed up he just dipped after i gave him the scroll
Same here lmfao
any luck finding him?
@@perccobain na, quest is done for apparently, if you messed up there..thats it
@@danieldominguez2419 woooowwww
I guess we all goofed
Once you give Ansbach the scroll and exhaust his dialogue, you can just reload the area via quitting out to receive the letter, there’s no need to go and talk to Leda.
You get a shield from it tho
Bro wtf I have him the script he disappeared and she’s stood there saying she should’ve asked for his advise lmao
@@Chucky-wf1xh me too man, did you ever found a solution?
@@danieldominguez2419 I just killed her near the grace she’s at bro she dropped her armour and sword or if you don’t give her the letter an come back after the enir ilm fight her shield supposed to drop apparently
Leda has her own quest that triggers summons fights. 2 that im aware of now against hornsent and ansbach!!! You get to choose who to side with!!! Read my comment above
4:20 scadu is the old english word for shadow. Pronounced the same way.
3:01 I did you the St Trina and Thiollier quest line first or in the middle of this one and ended up with suggesting Thiollier
Same! Is there’s any other way?
@@OhoudMainAcc it's fine leda wont bother thiollier as she doesnt seem him as threat. If you do leda just talks to you as if you answered the hornsent
@@Chippaization thanks! I finished the dlc tho
suggest thiollier does nothing. she just says nah hes kool. Suggesting Hornsent triggers a summons fight in the shadow keep and you have to choose sides. If u choose Leda you get all of Hornsents gear. Then go bk n talk to Leda and she decides to kill Ansbach next. Do this quest in the vid and when Ansbach disappears you will get another summons fight and have to choose sides!!!
me watching after i burned the damn tree ....
I went to ansbach first before freja and gave him the scroll before i talked to her. Now he's gone and never gave me the letter for her even though i exhausted his dialogue. Then freja is just stuck and I have no letter to give her?? Is this just a bug or is this story line to strict
Same
Same
yep me too.. this sucks
Its a FromSoft quest line. If you don't do exactly what they expect you to do 100% of the way through, you 'fail' their quest.
Better luck on NG+.
@@Tsukasa-TheWizard or, like a smart person, reload a backup save so you don't have to screw up lmao :)
My boy Ansbach is a real one
Nah hes gettin bodied right now. This fool failed to mention this quest is tied with Ledas quest I killed hornsent with her and got all his gear and about to kill Ansbach aswell and prob gettin all his gear!!! Read up top for my comment on how to do this quest properly if you want weapons n gear!!! Ledas the boss my boi Ansbach a washed up old man and needs to be put down lol!!!!
@samnyce I don't know about you, but Ansbach is the only one who had my back when I got jumped by Leda and her goons. He damn near killed Leda by himself. Besides, I still got all their gear at the end.
Damn I missed it, I’ll have to get it next play through , I will come back to this very helpful video though! Cheers ! ❤️
So I did the part for Ansbach but Freya is still there (Ansbach was gone before I could give his help to Freya and she’s just there but he’s gone (I already aided him against Leda). Should he still be available to summon later?
Do you get ansbach weapons if u didn’t summon him in last boss fight?
Yeah
Ansbachs quest is awesome, Leda is a fanatic
@@solairethesunlightwarrior8813 fr and i hate that one of the best talismans is locked behind siding with leda to kill ansbach, reminds me of killing alexander for a early boost in aow damage
I don’t know if this only applies after the patch but you can still complete these side quests after you burn the tree. I just did Thollier’s and Ansbach’s quests after I used Mesmer’s Kindling.
I was watching your Sea of Thieves Tall Tale videos the past few weeks, now I see you on the Elden Ring DLC! Love your content man, keep it up 🔥
You missed a step right before burning the tree. After both ansbach and freyja are gone you need to reload the area where ansbach was. He left a gold summons for you and you need to aid him in a fight against leda. No idea if that's required for the questline but better do it to make sure
Might have to do with another questline, I visited it multiple times, nothing in this video activates that battle.
@@ConCon interesting! Seems things are different for some folk. I couldn't talk to leda about hornsent either. Great video man appreciate all you do for people!
yea there are two signs , one to help leda and one to help ansbach and i dont know what to choose lol
IF Ansbach is gone but there are no summon signs, it’s possible that Leda is focusing on a DIFFERENT PERSON.
Specifically, from the golden hippo grace, go out the right door (it might need to be opened from the other side first) go up the stairs, and immediately to the right, look on the ground for summon signs. Use the red one, and after this is complete, go talk to Leda again, exhaust dialog, and THEN go check where Ansbach used to be
After you give Ansbach Freyja's letter, he responds, you go back to the grace but once going back to where Ansbach is, you have a choice, help Freyja or Ansbach. That information is left out of this video. So which is it?? Help Ansbach or Freyja?? Guess it's up to you where you want your quest to go. Still a great video/tutorial on this part. Helped me out a bunch. Thanks :)
i never took part in the summons fight and the quests still progressed
Note for the early questline if niether of them are in Shadow Keep: After the Great Rune is broken just outside the Shadow Keep, talk to Ansbach and Freyja about the event. Exhaust both of their dialogues completely and then rest at a grace to move them forward, they should now be in Shadow Keep.
I looked on Google for a good 20 minutes and didn't find anything. You're a lifesaver.
I didnt do the quest right and i burned the tree but still have the scroll. Am i stuck with it? Can i give it to anyone?
So mine was out of order, i didnt know what to do w them and i killed mesmer and thats when i gave him the scroll and i got pretty much most dialogue except the letter.
I did find a letter on the site of grace w michellas cross saying i think leda going to rauh bridge but i have no idea how to get there or where it is
You can buy a lantern from a nomadic merchant in the weeping peninsula, it helps to light up dark areas
I'd say using the npc summons makes the last boss fight harder. I'd suggest just doing it with ur personal summon and no one else
Great video, very helpful. I just want to add that you can still complete the quest after burning the Scudutree. At least I was able to complete it
How
Ansbach is nowhere to be found
Thanks for the walkthrough. Also even if you burn the shadow tree you can still complete both Thollier and Ansbachs questline and get them as summons. The only way to lock yourself out of ansbach is if you kill him or do not give him the scroll.
@@superbakerman921 explain how please I’m stuck
Literally the most level headed dude in the entire game.
I gave ansbach the rites and he just fucked off what do i do man
Ong bro same
Then freja is just stuck too
I just beat radahn on my ng+7 main file... now I want to go through with my more fresh int/faith character... I bet it's a LOT easier this time around lol
Followed your guide exactly and no items after beating the game! Thanks for making me waste my time!!
i used the lever before the quest and didnt reach the fourth floor grace is there other way to get there?
Same thing
Went back to the lever but i cant pull it back
I think we ruined this quest
@@all149 hey figured it out. spawn at the grace that has freya and go down the stairs right in front of the spawn. it’ll be one flight of stairs and then you go right to swing around those and there will be another flight going down again and then keep going forward passed one of the fire knights, through a pathway that gets narrow right after the knight and then shortly after that you’ll see a doorway to your left with bats right outside and if you head right after that you’ll see the stairs going down to the fourth floor and then go back and go down further and you’ll see more stairs going down to the grace and a cross
No joke got a glitch from Ansbach, so... when you talk to him before Radahn I got the prompt to tell him about Mohg's death. Then once i clicked that it came up saying "God Slain" and it gave me the Radahn remembrance and i went to his boss room and site of grace was there with Ansbach dead on the right. So yeah it insta killed Radahn.
Okay but when and where do we get Ansbach's armor set ? That's what i really wanna know
You can get his bow an armour back at the first place you talked to him, but if you beat the dlc I don't think you'll be able to get it... But go back to the first spot an should be two summon signs one red one gold, so far from what i know 100% the red summon will give you his stuff idk about the gold
@@killtality8066 okay thanks a lot ! Next time i play i will do so ! Didnt burn the tree yet so i guess they won't be there yet
@@killtality8066 I’m pretty sure if u don’t fight him and beat the final boss u get everything and also his scythe
I we back to anbach in the first floor and I got 2 summons signs a gold and red one
I was able to do the questlines after already burning the tree, I think its because I had not yet confronted leda at Enir-Ilim yet. so thats great to know.
I find it funny that "if you burn the tree some NPC's will dissapear", which makes sense but I haven't finished all NPCs rn and I didn't burn the tree but Thiollier and St. Trina are the only NPCs that are still existing. I did finish ansnach for that part tho.
After all this is said and done if you go back to where Ansbach was, there are two summon signs. Help ansbach, or help Needle Knight Leda.
I thought I fckd up this quest because after Ansbach and Freyja stuff the invasion mark wasn't popping.....
But when I got to Leda he was there to summon somehow
I think it was because I helped hornsent against Leda
Huh guess I’m used to it actually did all questlines first play through. Had some help though
Okay cool. I haven't found the fourth floor I guess. I find relief that I didn't screw up the quest but also would have never figured this out on my own at the same time lol
I aided Hornsent during the leda questline now i did all the Sir Ansbach quest but when leda comes for him , they just disappeared ? no summon signs at all as well as freya
Same here I aided hornsent and Ansbach is gone but no sign
@@Darth_malefic If you aided hornsent you do not need to do anything else as Leda will not try and invade ansbach
@@BrockDuma So he will be still able to help us to fight the final boss?
@@levampblaze6312 As long as you gave him the scroll, he'll be available to summon for the final boss.
Yeah I’m ngl, I burned the tree before I finished ansbachs/freyja quest in shadow keep. I would still complete their quest before you burn the tree just to make sure but I don’t think it locks you out
i see, this was why my last bostfight was so difficult. as i havent finished 2 of these npc's quest, i have no one to summon. i thought the only way was to git gud, play OP weapons or play Wall of China strat. in the end i defeated the boss using the new bonk build (also bonked my desk a few times) in 4 hours of epic cursing moments
Can confirm that once you’ve started the quest lines for each of them, you can still complete them after burning the tree
I first told with him about the secret, now he is nowhere to be found. Can me someone help. The knight leda already wanted to join the hornsent so i guess i didn't anything wrong.
I pulled the lever to move the statues and now i cant pull it agian to get to the grace edit: from messmers boss arena cross the bridge and turn right and you can jump down on a platform and then jump again and you'll get to the grace
figured out what to do? i am at the same spot
Same
Hi. Figured out a solution. Go to the room beneath the Seventh floor bonfire where Freyja is. Then drop down onto the hand of the suspended corpse, then walk accros the ledge and drop down to the bonfire.
@@euancaven9561 ty man gonna try it out now
@@euancaven9561 well either i didnt understand what u ment but i cant seem to understand where i need to go aftter i drop down
I hate how the messmer fight its in a random fucking door after opening so many in the shadow keep, it locks you in a cutscene when you open it, and it locked me out of leda's quest. Now i cant do the leda vs horsent nor the ansback vs leda. Great quest desing!
I went to Freya first and started speaking to her. This resulted in her attacking me afterwards. I had to go to the curch of vows to remove her aggro on me lol
Do you need to summon them for the final fight to get their equipment?
Did you ever find out? I really don't want to summon them it makes the fight worse.
@@chewychewbacca203 Same
Havent figuered it out yet
@@TarnishedZorro you don't need to summon
@@chewychewbacca203 Figuered it out myself but thank you🙏
Apparently these guys were figuring everything out without me bc while I've been dying and training for the shadow keep (I can't even get past the first sets of stairs after the hippo), they've been moving around and deciding they want to kill each other without a single decision from myself 😭 I don't know what to do
Once you get to the final boss you don’t have to summon him to progress the quest, I would recommend not summoning him as doing so scales the bosses health along with the other quest npc doing the same making the fight far more difficult
No idea what I did wrong but I entered the room that Ansbach is in as soon as I got to that place and he was marked as an enemy and tried killing me.
So, I killed him not knowing anything about this quest line. Now I’m eyeing up Freyja because I’m pretty sure the only way I’m getting anything from her is to kill her now.
These quests are too obscure.
I was fighting enemies around freyja and I ended up killing her by mistake what can I do? Please someone help me I don’t know how to reset a quest
Try to go to the church of inhibition in the normal World. There is a big statue where you can give her a tear and it will grand you absolution. Maybe she will be alive after that
When I return to Ainsbach on the first floor, to give Freya's message, instead of him being there, I get a red and gold summoning sign. One to help Leda to kill him, and another to help him against Leda.
Okay so I got to the point before you burned the tree (haven’t progressed far enough in story) and when I went back I had the summons “be summoned to Addis sir ansbach” and “assist needle knight Leda” at the first floor of storehouse
Doing this without a guide is nothing short of ridiculous. I wonder if Fromsoft will ever decide to make their quests more consumable for the average player.
Thanks for the no spoiler warning dude, any competent player let alone RUclipsr making a guide should know to include a spoiler warning before spoiling a major event, I'd watch it's shatter, he's respectful about that sort of thing and makes extremely competent quest guides
i burned the tree and did this quest + Thiolliers quest after and the only thing that changed speaking to leda which was skipped
I talked to them in library after burning the tree, I don't know about others because I didn't do their quest lines.
is this where u also get the blade of anbach incantation ?
Yes
If arnsbch doesn’t give you freyes letter just quit to main menu load back in and he gives it to you
Tried doing this quest got two summoning songs to either help sir ansbach or Leda. Helped ansbach and got his bow and leda’s rune.
So I actually beat Mesmer and burned the tree before doing any of this and the were both still in shadow keep and I was able to go to ansbach laughing about freyja through and through.
@@OGJackmandoo Same. When I went back, it said this be summoned to fight for Anbach or Freya.
The suggesting is more to do with the other npcs quest lines. Where your at with them you can suggest them. Leda later will say ansbach is one she will fetter out.
If sir ansbach does not give you the letter to give to Freya, rest at site of grace to reload the area and return to ansbach he will give you the letter after reloading .
When i go to freya there isnt the option to suggest anything..
I did burn the scadu tree and was still able to progress Sir ansbach’s quest
I forgot Ansbach was even a character. Just completely forgot about his existence. I didn't even see him in that one room in the library.
If you’ve done the St. Trina questline, the hornsent dialogue option with Leda will be replaced with Thiollier.
After I got the shield I went to first floor but the dude disappeared before I could pass on the letter.
Edit:- After I defeated Messmer I got the sign to either assist Leda or Ansbach.
Wait the 2nd npc Thiollier has already been defeated by me. They are now lying near St. Trina. Can I still summon her during last boss battle?
Eat St Trina’s nectar until she tells you to kill miquella, then tell that to thiollier, reset site of grace, and if thiollier is saying “A-ah” you will be able to summon them
i went to the grace and freyja was dead and sir ansbach was no where to be found
Me too
Rest at a site of grace
did you already burn the tree
@@iatethebeans1033 the main game one?
@@PlyYxl no the one in the dlc after the PURPLE boss
guys i already killed leda and i cant complete the quset as ansbac wont give me the letter to freya? any tips and help or the ques it ruined?
Didn't realize that romina guarded the scadutree i been avoiding her 😭😭 guess imma have to die to her 40 more times again
I l9ve how sticky the footsteps sound when walking on the colossal hornsent
Do u guys know if i need to summon ansbach and thioller for the last fight to complete thier quest or can i just go in solo
I wanna kno too
I also need an answer :c
Hey do you know already?
@@Dooood89 You don't need to. When you finish the battle, just reload the area and their bodies will be laying on the floor next to the gate
@@gmegis oh god Bless thank you
They could not design this quest any worse they should have moved them both so many players would get locked out
Btw you absolutely have to talk to Freja before the storehouse or else she will not show up. I just tested it
The absolute state of fromsoftware’s quest design in 2024. But hey, 9/10 amirite? 😂
@@Zeusexiness if you wanted to be spoon fed you shoulda stayed a baby
@@Zeusexiness googoo gaga ahh
@@fake_7106 there’s a difference between a quest being ‘spoon fed’ and a quest being almost impossible to complete without clear guidance. People miss out on key rewards because it’s unclear on what they have to do in the next step of the quest, and sometimes accidentally mess up the quest by killing a boss… which the game encourages you to do. It’s trashy design.
Yeah the optional quests are way too complicated but the rest of the game stands just fine on its own
Freyja at the library doesn't spawn.... How? 😢
MUST SUMMON FOR GANK SWUAD FIGHT! I did all of this and got Ansbach to the gank squad, did not summon him, defeated Leda and now he has disappeared.
bro explain how to get the incantation from him, there’s another part to it
Will this complete the quest if i prefer having my online buddies help me instead of those two NPCs?
Do you have to summon Ansbach at Leda for him to appear at the final boss?
Ansbach wasn't there after I gave his letterto Freyja. Just a summon sign to assist Leda...
I burned the tree and both thiollier and ansbach questlines and npcs were there adterwards. Havent beaten last boss yet though so hopefully they spawn there yellow summon sign for me
If you kill ansbanch, does it give you the furious blade of ansbanch enchantment???
No you need to complete his quest for that
I was doing the quest, but when I went to get the letter from Ansbach he just disappeared, Freyja is still there and I’ve exhausted all of her dialogue
Do you have to summon ANSBACH in the final boss for him to be there after the fight?
there's bug that no option for "Tell freyja's decision",and only show "Give scroll"
must be other tiggers beyond talking to both of them
i went to ansbach after giving the letter to freyja but he was gone right after. any suggestions?
im in the same situation, managed to solve it?
Do you need to summon Ansbach at the final Boss to get His loot?
Not sure if it's still relevant to you but from what I'm aware of you don't need to summon him and you can find his corpse in the final boss arena to get his loot
@@applebapple8443 thank you
Yeah killed him Yesterday without summon and His corpse was there for loot but still thanks
Ok so problem I killed freya before handing her the letter ansbach wasn’t in the sore house but his summon sign to help him kill Leda was idk what in gods name I did but I got a whole new guest line 😂
Thx for not spoiling the last boss,I’ve managed to go this long without any spoilers
No problem
I did both after the tree was burned surprisingly