Many thanks go out to 🏆#Georgios over at 🏆#quippr for getting a hold on these CPUs for my review. #NotSponsored 🤗🤩 Is the 13600K a worthy successor to the 12600K? 🤔😅
The stopped watching as soon as I realised that diffrent motherboard, RAM etc have been used. It's like testing one car on the motorway and another on a national road. Yes, both roads are made of tarmac, but....
The difference the mobo makes is within the margin of error. Also, getting a Z790 board for the 13600K is more realistic and can help it reach its “full potential”(kinda). At most, the mobo and RAM differences create a 1%-3% difference in performance. If you upgrade from a 12600K to a 13600K for 1-3% performance boost, you are stupid.
I was gaming on an old 9700k that wouldn't stop crashing...I was going to wait for 14th gen in a few months but instead based on reviews like this decided to go with a z790 and a 12600k to hold me over until 15th gen comes out the end of next year. picked it up for under $200 as well! Excellent comparison
you forgot to mention one of key differences, L2 cache is more than doubled, and thats the biggest difference between 12 and 13. gen. Even if clocked the same, 13 gen will always be ahead, but in games the difference is huge.
Yea but 100Watts more power and Close to the limits of the cooler in temperature... If you want a large cache, better switching the whole system to AMD and get one of their X3D CPUs with much better power consumption and lower temperatures... Yea, it is the most expensive upgrade path though....
I'm sorry but using a different Motherboard and RAM is not the correct way to test the performance of a CPU, no matter how similar those components are. They will influence the performance as some of the memory tuning configurations are decided automatically by the Motherboard.
If i was in a position of owning 12600k, i would probably jump straight to 13700k or 13900k. 13600k is awesome but the difference is too small to be justified. Plus you can oc 12600k quite well 5.1ghz on all p cores is pretty much guaranteed, so the gap will shrink to stock 13600k quite a bit
all depends on GPU... 3090 is cap for this cpu. my 13600kf in cinebench r23 max. 150w with score 24700p. idle system watching this video, many launchers in background 29w , gpu 4070ti 14w. if i oc cpu to 5,4 and 4,2 WITHOUT RAISING VOLTAGE goes to 25800p in c23. consumes same 150w reported by HWinfo, temps are 70°C max... so many reviews i dnt understand. mobo gigabyte gaming X Z790 ddr5 with ram 6400 cl32 1T....
The xmp profiles should be shown as well, many boards sets different values for those, so controlling xmp profiles is of utmost importance when one is comparing between different brands of mobos.
xmp profiles scare me, really... they're so loose on mobos that they're more likely to fry your ram and/or your cpu than anything else. mobo xmp profiles overvolt the living sh out of everything...
Raptor Lake's extra E-cores really help productivity workloads, and the extra L2 cache really helps boost gaming performance. Higher clock and memory speeds benefit general performance. Unfortunately, the underlying architecture and fabrication process are identical. So these performance increases come at the cost of higher power draw and heat.
While power numbers under C23 are noticeably higher under load …. For general gaming thou, the Intel CPUs are actually quite efficient 🤤🤩. Regardless of what you choose, either cpu will serve you well.
Nice information, ATM the i5 12600kf costs ALMOST half of the i5 13600k, would it be enough for a 4070ti at 1440p? not planning to upgrade until 2026 at least
Any chance of doing the same comparison (with the RTX3090) between a 12700K and 13600K? I believe they are pretty evenly matched in games, and the 12700KF can be found for much cheaper than the 13600K at present.
I bought now my 12600kf for 150 euros passing by a i5 3570k of the 2012! ( Great cpu and still working perfectly). This 12600k rulez for the price! And Power consuption. I think at the moment is the best option for the quality/price. I think i will wait others 10 years to change for anorher cpu 🙂. There is no reason to buy a new one, after 3/4 generations if you don t want to waste money.
@@twiittter due i just got the 12600kf on amazon new for $140 with tax and it was around $100 cheaper than any 13600k I could find! Total steal along with the $100 z690 gigabyte ud ax board
So... will a 240 AiO be enough for the 13600k? ... or for the 13700K, for that matter? It handles my 12600K (slightly OCed) just fine, but I wonder if it would be enough for those 13-gen CPUs...
hello my friend. i'm using i5 12600k with a msi b760 wifi ddr4 and my cb r23 score is sigle 1864, mult core 16545. is this normal? does it have to do with the motherboard? thanks. like
3900x from the day it was released. still do not feel the need to upgrade. hell i use the very basic settings on the ryzen master. 1.275v and 3925mhz as max on all cores. it really interesting, since i still do not feel like i need to even upgrade my stock cooler (repasted twice). thing is quiet as a bee outside the window... no drops, no spikes... i will get a 40-50 pound cooler for cpu, when i will start feeling like the thing's lacking and it will give another 0.25V and it will give me all-core 4.2 stable. no prioritizing but clean all-core is beautiful.
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El problema es que usted usa una 3090 que lo más probable que el 12600 se quede corto con la 3090, sería bueno probar estos procesadores con 3070 y 3080 para ser más justo
i would pick the 12600k to oc it to 5.1 or 5.3 should close the gap .......... an overclock 12600k should be fine with paring 4080 or 7900XTX ( 4090 would be bottleneck ) i'm gaming 1080p & 2560x1080p
@@koviniseziukas7668 yes, it runs like a champ and can pretty much handle any task day to day, I really did want to overclock it but i have a B series motherboard so my only option was to underclock it, and even then it still performs the same using less wattage! I genuinely love it so much! 🤩
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Many thanks go out to 🏆#Georgios over at 🏆#quippr for getting a hold on these CPUs for my review. #NotSponsored 🤗🤩
Is the 13600K a worthy successor to the 12600K? 🤔😅
The stopped watching as soon as I realised that diffrent motherboard, RAM etc have been used. It's like testing one car on the motorway and another on a national road. Yes, both roads are made of tarmac, but....
wish i saw this earlier
Ty
both roads are made of tarmacbut....😂😂😂😂
Damn, wish I saw this sooner
The difference the mobo makes is within the margin of error. Also, getting a Z790 board for the 13600K is more realistic and can help it reach its “full potential”(kinda). At most, the mobo and RAM differences create a 1%-3% difference in performance. If you upgrade from a 12600K to a 13600K for 1-3% performance boost, you are stupid.
I was gaming on an old 9700k that wouldn't stop crashing...I was going to wait for 14th gen in a few months but instead based on reviews like this decided to go with a z790 and a 12600k to hold me over until 15th gen comes out the end of next year. picked it up for under $200 as well!
Excellent comparison
you forgot to mention one of key differences, L2 cache is more than doubled, and thats the biggest difference between 12 and 13. gen. Even if clocked the same, 13 gen will always be ahead, but in games the difference is huge.
That's correct!
Usually 1% low is the indicator but somehow did not reflect much in this video. Weird enough
Yea but 100Watts more power and Close to the limits of the cooler in temperature... If you want a large cache, better switching the whole system to AMD and get one of their X3D CPUs with much better power consumption and lower temperatures... Yea, it is the most expensive upgrade path though....
overclock 12600K and it is pretty much same thing for gaming at least. It's $140 now. It's almost half the price.
This is correct,but if you overclock an i5 13600k,you have an i7 13700k stock...
Costs of temperature higly increase. 13/14th gen are so hots in stock.
I'm sorry but using a different Motherboard and RAM is not the correct way to test the performance of a CPU, no matter how similar those components are. They will influence the performance as some of the memory tuning configurations are decided automatically by the Motherboard.
Very little difference....
If i was in a position of owning 12600k, i would probably jump straight to 13700k or 13900k. 13600k is awesome but the difference is too small to be justified. Plus you can oc 12600k quite well 5.1ghz on all p cores is pretty much guaranteed, so the gap will shrink to stock 13600k quite a bit
all depends on GPU... 3090 is cap for this cpu. my 13600kf in cinebench r23 max. 150w with score 24700p. idle system watching this video, many launchers in background 29w , gpu 4070ti 14w. if i oc cpu to 5,4 and 4,2 WITHOUT RAISING VOLTAGE goes to 25800p in c23. consumes same 150w reported by HWinfo, temps are 70°C max... so many reviews i dnt understand. mobo gigabyte gaming X Z790 ddr5 with ram 6400 cl32 1T....
@@pe3ke117wait I wanna try to get it for my rx 6600 xt and I wanna get the 12600k
The xmp profiles should be shown as well, many boards sets different values for those, so controlling xmp profiles is of utmost importance when one is comparing between different brands of mobos.
xmp profiles scare me, really... they're so loose on mobos that they're more likely to fry your ram and/or your cpu than anything else. mobo xmp profiles overvolt the living sh out of everything...
Raptor Lake's extra E-cores really help productivity workloads, and the extra L2 cache really helps boost gaming performance. Higher clock and memory speeds benefit general performance. Unfortunately, the underlying architecture and fabrication process are identical. So these performance increases come at the cost of higher power draw and heat.
While power numbers under C23 are noticeably higher under load …. For general gaming thou, the Intel CPUs are actually quite efficient 🤤🤩. Regardless of what you choose, either cpu will serve you well.
Nice information, ATM the i5 12600kf costs ALMOST half of the i5 13600k, would it be enough for a 4070ti at 1440p? not planning to upgrade until 2026 at least
Yes, of course. It's a good combination. in 1440p there is no much difference between both cpu.😎👍
12600k overclocked to 5.2ghz+ without any issues, makes the entire 13th and 14th gen irrelevant +-5% increase
Any chance of doing the same comparison (with the RTX3090) between a 12700K and 13600K? I believe they are pretty evenly matched in games, and the 12700KF can be found for much cheaper than the 13600K at present.
Any more on this?
I bought now my 12600kf for 150 euros passing by a i5 3570k of the 2012! ( Great cpu and still working perfectly). This 12600k rulez for the price! And Power consuption. I think at the moment is the best option for the quality/price. I think i will wait others 10 years to change for anorher cpu 🙂. There is no reason to buy a new one, after 3/4 generations if you don t want to waste money.
Got mine (12600k with graphics, used) for $120 usd. Upgraded from 12100f mainly for emulation, RPCS3 and Yuzu.
@@twiittter due i just got the 12600kf on amazon new for $140 with tax and it was around $100 cheaper than any 13600k I could find! Total steal along with the $100 z690 gigabyte ud ax board
So... will a 240 AiO be enough for the 13600k? ... or for the 13700K, for that matter? It handles my 12600K (slightly OCed) just fine, but I wonder if it would be enough for those 13-gen CPUs...
No it won't be. You will need a good quality 360 Aio, especially for the 13700K.
With an OC? No. If you do an undervolt and don't push the clocks, yes.
hello my friend. i'm using i5 12600k with a msi b760 wifi ddr4 and my cb r23 score is sigle 1864, mult core 16545. is this normal? does it have to do with the motherboard? thanks. like
I think is the lack of e cores. I have a 13600t and get 18000 in cb r23 with ddr4 3200 and a h610 motherboard.
@@nomadmax1865 and how do I resolve this? thanks.
3900x from the day it was released. still do not feel the need to upgrade.
hell i use the very basic settings on the ryzen master. 1.275v and 3925mhz as max on all cores. it really interesting, since i still do not feel like i need to even upgrade my stock cooler (repasted twice). thing is quiet as a bee outside the window... no drops, no spikes... i will get a 40-50 pound cooler for cpu, when i will start feeling like the thing's lacking and it will give another 0.25V and it will give me all-core 4.2 stable. no prioritizing but clean all-core is beautiful.
Cool story
@@uhoh4961 did you bring milk+cookies?
try oc both cpus to the same speed on the p core they wil performe the same within the margin of error
А если заблокировать на 12600к частоты в 5,1 Ггц, и снять лимиты, то в играх преимущество старшего поколения уйдёт в рамки погрешности..
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El problema es que usted usa una 3090 que lo más probable que el 12600 se quede corto con la 3090, sería bueno probar estos procesadores con 3070 y 3080 para ser más justo
So are you gonna compare the i3
i would pick the 12600k to oc it to 5.1 or 5.3 should close the gap .......... an overclock 12600k should be fine with paring 4080 or 7900XTX ( 4090 would be bottleneck ) i'm gaming 1080p & 2560x1080p
What gpu where you using
habe ein 13600K, würde sich ein umstieg auf 7800x3d lohnen? ich spiele nur @1440p
wow so 1st gen is better if you care about power
Can i5 12600kf run with 6000mhz ram?
I run with 5600hz ram
Its possible but not really. I have a 6400mhz ram but its unstable, blue screens sometimes. Dropped to 5400 and no more issue. (On ROG B760i)
No, definitely not, thats stupid, 12600k is a beast.
I'm getting the i5-12600k soon, gladly switching from an i7-2600K 😂
me too. how it runs ? did you get it ?@@MajorGunner
@@koviniseziukas7668 yes, it runs like a champ and can pretty much handle any task day to day, I really did want to overclock it but i have a B series motherboard so my only option was to underclock it, and even then it still performs the same using less wattage! I genuinely love it so much! 🤩
90€ difference with those two. For 90€ you can get 32GB DDR5. 12600k still good.
@@MajorGunner Do some benchmarks with current CPU. Then do the same with new 12600k. Make a comparison chart. Get inspired.