I knew Pat Shurmer a tiny bit and ran into him at some point after our draft when we had two 1st rd picks. Without any prodding he said 'we had a GREAT draft'....Branden Weeden and Trent Richardson ...I'll always remember that ..lol
If we are thankful for Myles and love him, trade him to a competent franchise so he has the ability to win. He’s nearing the end of his prime and we’ll be entering a complete rebuild hopefully all the way up to the owner. Get some compensation for him and call it a day.
My problem with that logic is that every team has great players. So if every team trades their great players to contenders so they can compete then we'll just end up with a professional college football arrangement.
@@rctecopyright who says we are trading him to a contender? We are not obligated to do him a solid. I'm not saying send him to the Giants, but a team like the Cowboys would get us good trade value in return.
@@rctecopyright That's essentially what we have right now and for the foreseeable future with Watson on the books and no draft picks. Garrett is nearing the end of his prime. Sell high and buy low. If we just drafted him, keep him. But he's nearing the end of his prime. Get what you can to jump start the rebuild.
That's the wrong way to think about it we aren't replacing Garrett but trying to improve other places on the team. 1 guy is not above the team no matter how good he is. Get 2 1st and a 2nd take your chances obviously I would prefer a new GM since Berry can't draft.
He’s a cornerstone of the franchise and a once in a generation player. Taking care of great players and showing the men that play their guts out with nothing is on the line.. That we value their hard work.. it builds a great team and strong culture. The Browns need Myles for more than what he brings on the field.
@@rodgiek3 wins ain't a great culture. Aaron Donald is an example of a cornerstone and culture changer. If Myles Garrett hadn't thrown Baker Mayfield under the bus, the Browns would be a contender, but he had to berate him for not playing the last game on 2021. Because of that Garrett will play injured in meaningless games or he'll be called a hypocrite for throwing Baker under the bus for not playing because of injury.
Lol. There's snowflakes in here who are cowards who can't handle my comments. Typical of the entire Browns football entity. Why you'll always be losers.
The cold hard truth is that the Browns are in a very difficult position to have a winning season next year and therefore it will be difficult to make it attractive to keep Myles. The team bet big on Watson and lost. The next two years are the cost of that bust. They have a lot of position needs.
@@mej684 this is how dumb Jimmy is you had a great GM in John Dorsey who is widely respected across the NFL landscape and replace him with a young Andrew Berry that has no clue of what he's doing, Haslems don't care about winning they care about 💲💲💲💲
TOTAL AGREEMWNT THAT WE MUST KEEP MYLES GARRET! LISTEN HE IS THE TOP PICK? THAT WAS TOTALLY WORRH THAT FIRST PICK! MANY WILL NEVER REACH THE LOFTY EXPECTATIONS? HE IS THE TOP PICK THAT WAS REALLY WORTH IT! HE RIGHT NOW IS IN THE HALL! AND PLAYERS LIME HIM YOU NEED TO WIN THE SUPERBOWL!
If the Browns can trade Myles to a contender, for two 1st Rounders and a young stud O-Lineman then they should seriously think about it. Then they should use those picks to bolster their O-Line to protect their future QB, so he can actually have an opportunity to develop. But I don't trust Stefanski to develop a new QB with his antiquated high school style offense or AB to select the obvious O-Linemen, who were dominant in college, correctly. The next QB draft class isn't very good so they should or wait another year to find one, but that gives them the needed time to make changes to the staff and build their O-Line for the future. Also, a veteran QB would help to groom the younger QB until they are ready to step in.
The Browns have killed his career. Trade him to a franchise that'll part with this drafts first, second, and third and their second and third the following year. This roster needs to be rebuilt NOW, not over the course of time. Especially with the dead money this team has accrued.
@back2center you said now so that would only count the current picks for this draft lol. When you grow up you will understand the difference between now and 2 years kid.
If Myles was a few years younger, he’d be irreplaceable. But the fact that he turns 30 next season, and the team is awful and in need of a reset, a haul of draft capital is exactly what they need. But, they’ll just continue to live in their delusions.
We didn't have any QBs last year and made the play offs. Maybe Ken Dorsey isn't the guy for this team. Offense has been historically bad one of the worst ever to suit up in NFL history! That puts a lot of pressure on your defense.
False, Garrett is a great player but terrible leader and thus, very tradeable. Your best player should be a great leader, Browns would have been smart to trade him a few years ago for a crazy haul but that's probably out of the question now. Return will be diminished from any real organization who doesn't want a crybaby who takes many plays off and only really specializes in rushing the passer (is not a complete player). He'll be on the wrong side of 30 soon and is probably more serious about racing his porsche, planning his next halloween costume, or dinosaurs than he is about winning a championship. He's really worried people are going to start to understand eventually that the reason the browns aren't a great defense a lot of the time is because he can't lead as the best player on the field.
I knew Pat Shurmer a tiny bit and ran into him at some point after our draft when we had two 1st rd picks. Without any prodding he said 'we had a GREAT draft'....Branden Weeden and Trent Richardson ...I'll always remember that ..lol
Well...at the time it wasn't really that bad of a decision...until those guys played...
If we are thankful for Myles and love him, trade him to a competent franchise so he has the ability to win. He’s nearing the end of his prime and we’ll be entering a complete rebuild hopefully all the way up to the owner. Get some compensation for him and call it a day.
My problem with that logic is that every team has great players. So if every team trades their great players to contenders so they can compete then we'll just end up with a professional college football arrangement.
@@rctecopyright who says we are trading him to a contender? We are not obligated to do him a solid. I'm not saying send him to the Giants, but a team like the Cowboys would get us good trade value in return.
@@rctecopyright That's essentially what we have right now and for the foreseeable future with Watson on the books and no draft picks. Garrett is nearing the end of his prime. Sell high and buy low. If we just drafted him, keep him. But he's nearing the end of his prime. Get what you can to jump start the rebuild.
That's the wrong way to think about it we aren't replacing Garrett but trying to improve other places on the team. 1 guy is not above the team no matter how good he is. Get 2 1st and a 2nd take your chances obviously I would prefer a new GM since Berry can't draft.
Yes he is. But he realizes he’s getting older and the browns are moving in the wrong direction. As good as he is, he’s not taking us to the playoffs
He’s a cornerstone of the franchise and a once in a generation player. Taking care of great players and showing the men that play their guts out with nothing is on the line.. That we value their hard work.. it builds a great team and strong culture. The Browns need Myles for more than what he brings on the field.
@@rodgiek3 wins ain't a great culture. Aaron Donald is an example of a cornerstone and culture changer. If Myles Garrett hadn't thrown Baker Mayfield under the bus, the Browns would be a contender, but he had to berate him for not playing the last game on 2021. Because of that Garrett will play injured in meaningless games or he'll be called a hypocrite for throwing Baker under the bus for not playing because of injury.
Lol. There's snowflakes in here who are cowards who can't handle my comments. Typical of the entire Browns football entity. Why you'll always be losers.
@@rodgiek exactly
Belichick was notorius for letting players go towards the end of their career@rodgiek
All true what G is saying...I think Washington is a great model for what's possible going from a bad qb to a good one who is also a team leader.
The cold hard truth is that the Browns are in a very difficult position to have a winning season next year and therefore it will be difficult to make it attractive to keep Myles. The team bet big on Watson and lost. The next two years are the cost of that bust. They have a lot of position needs.
@@mattarndt4452 very well said 👍
Fire Andrew Berry and find someone who can actually draft a team.
@@mej684 this is how dumb Jimmy is you had a great GM in John Dorsey who is widely respected across the NFL landscape and replace him with a young Andrew Berry that has no clue of what he's doing, Haslems don't care about winning they care about 💲💲💲💲
TOTAL AGREEMWNT THAT WE MUST KEEP MYLES GARRET! LISTEN HE IS THE TOP PICK? THAT WAS TOTALLY WORRH THAT FIRST PICK! MANY WILL NEVER REACH THE LOFTY EXPECTATIONS? HE IS THE TOP PICK THAT WAS REALLY WORTH IT! HE RIGHT NOW IS IN THE HALL! AND PLAYERS LIME HIM YOU NEED TO WIN THE SUPERBOWL!
Myles doesn't deserve another wasted year under Stefanski.
If the Browns can trade Myles to a contender, for two 1st Rounders and a young stud O-Lineman then they should seriously think about it. Then they should use those picks to bolster their O-Line to protect their future QB, so he can actually have an opportunity to develop. But I don't trust Stefanski to develop a new QB with his antiquated high school style offense or AB to select the obvious O-Linemen, who were dominant in college, correctly. The next QB draft class isn't very good so they should or wait another year to find one, but that gives them the needed time to make changes to the staff and build their O-Line for the future. Also, a veteran QB would help to groom the younger QB until they are ready to step in.
Harry Douglas would probably work very well with Mike Vrabel.
The Browns have killed his career. Trade him to a franchise that'll part with this drafts first, second, and third and their second and third the following year. This roster needs to be rebuilt NOW, not over the course of time. Especially with the dead money this team has accrued.
That's a terrible trade we can get better value for Garrett. His value minimum is 2 1st and 2 2nds and a 3rd.
@zombiegoatt4282 What's my last sentence?
@back2center 3 picks are not rebuilding this team lmao. This isn't Madden kid.
@zombiegoatt4282 It's 5 picks, learn to count.
@back2center you said now so that would only count the current picks for this draft lol. When you grow up you will understand the difference between now and 2 years kid.
miles wants a ring he is not gonna stay in cleveland and nobody should blame him he deserves at least to be on a good team
If Myles was a few years younger, he’d be irreplaceable. But the fact that he turns 30 next season, and the team is awful and in need of a reset, a haul of draft capital is exactly what they need. But, they’ll just continue to live in their delusions.
We didn't have any QBs last year and made the play offs. Maybe Ken Dorsey isn't the guy for this team. Offense has been historically bad one of the worst ever to suit up in NFL history! That puts a lot of pressure on your defense.
lol common G letting Myles pick the next coach so you can end up like the raiders who let maxx Crosby convince them AP was the guy
Myles is eventually going to leave. Either now, or by age or injury. So the organization needs to start planning for the inevitable.
Haslem isn't gonna fire anyone after the season he doesn't have the balls especially when both got they're contracts extended
BS...if you can get 2 1st's for him you absolutely do it...nothing less though.
Free Myles. 2 hall of famers in 25 years. Don't waste his career here like you did to Thomas. Clowns will never be a frwnchise worth watching.
False, Garrett is a great player but terrible leader and thus, very tradeable. Your best player should be a great leader, Browns would have been smart to trade him a few years ago for a crazy haul but that's probably out of the question now. Return will be diminished from any real organization who doesn't want a crybaby who takes many plays off and only really specializes in rushing the passer (is not a complete player). He'll be on the wrong side of 30 soon and is probably more serious about racing his porsche, planning his next halloween costume, or dinosaurs than he is about winning a championship. He's really worried people are going to start to understand eventually that the reason the browns aren't a great defense a lot of the time is because he can't lead as the best player on the field.
Sign Cousins when he gets cut, draft DT Michigan, HC Vrabel, keep Schwartz, hire quality OC, fire berry stefanski.
Why would you keep a defensive coordinator that the league has figured out?
@@back2center ask stefanski
@@bigredd1574 I'm asking you.
@back2center coordinators move all over the place in the NFL...if it was as easy as 'figuring someone out' then no one would have a job....lol.
@back2center just because they aren't dominant like they were last year doesn't mean he's been 'figured out'....lol.
Hear me out we trade our 1st round draft pick for Justin fields ?
Hell naw
@ do you trust them to actually pick someone good with the draft pick ?