Let me get this straight. In Canada if you’re a repeat violent offender your caught and immediately released over and over. But if you’re a normal citizen getting attacked with your mom in your home you have to go to jail and pay lawyers. Great job Canada
Let no good deed go unpunished: "On September 19 at 10:40 a.m., one man saw another man place a small child in the trunk of a vehicle at a strip mall in Yarmouth. The child was placed in the trunk and left there unattended while the man was inside a store. The man came out of the store a short time later and removed the child from the trunk and put her in the back seat of the car. The witness called police, and he confronted the man with a firearm he retrieved from his vehicle. He tried to keep the man from leaving with the child before police arrived but was unsuccessful. The entire interaction was captured on surveillance video. Police arrested the witness for firearms offences. He was taken to the detachment for processing. RCMP made inquiries to locate the man and child, and found them in Yarmouth County. The man was arrested and taken to Yarmouth RCMP. The man and child are known to each other and the child was in the man's care at the time of the incident. The man, a 33-year-old from Yarmouth, was released on conditions and is facing charges of: Criminal Negligence · Abandonment · Forcible Confinement The witness, a 19-year-old man from Yarmouth, was released on conditions and is facing charges of: Careless Use of a Firearm · Possession of a Weapon for a Dangerous Purpose · Using a Firearm in the Commission of an Offence"
And you are Surprised??...Give your head a shake....you live in Canuckistan....where the Sheeple need to keep quiet and ....DO EXACTLY AS THEY AS THEY ARE TOLD!!!. 😂
@@halielouya453 EDIT: I read the statement wrong lol Ok so if the attacker is pointing a gun at him and then Mian instead shoots in to the ceiling, what will the attacker plausibly do with the firearm he is pointing at Mian? Should he, pray tell shoot in to the ceiling too? Only a complete fool assumes that when the attacker has a firearm out, that you should instead shoot in to the ceiling. That round may go in to an upstairs apartment and kill a kid by the way if they lived in a building. Could you be any more dense with that assumption given we know for sure the attackers were armed?
In the us a lawyer is basically required have a reasonable case and can face sanctions and be disbarred for having an unreasonable case. Ideally, bad cases get dismissed with prejudice by the judge. But you also have to remember that the purpose of legal procedure is to find the facts and render judgment in a case. It's very dangerous to create a situation where representing someone (a right guaranteed, I believe, by the canadian charter of rights?) Becomes professionally dangerous and makes it more or less impossible for people to get legal representation. And what even happens with public defenders in this case? In this case it's the crown vs a citizen, so really the solution is to put political pressure on whomever selects whatever Canadian district attorneys are called to make sure they aren't criminally prosecuting people.
@@alexs7670 Government employees with no fear of imposing excessive injustices, will impose it. We *can* write rules to protect government employees from honest errors, and also rules which utterly remove that protection when they become tyrants. Slippery slopes *can* be made safe by installation of robust anti-slip devices. I'm an engineer, and my fear of the consequences of a terrible mistake makes me a *better* engineer.
So he's victimized twice!! Once from the criminals and then the Justice system!! There should be a process in place for a victim to recoup his legal cost.
If the system worked that way it would sure do wonders to weed out frivolous cases like this. Yet in the same breath your average thug would be unaffected because those people don't have jobs and their defense is paid for by the taxpayers anyway. Really a win-win for the average working citizen, which is why it will never happen.
Intruders had a firearm, zip ties and rope… truly unbelievable this man was charged. If I were him, regardless of the outcome, I would be at peace knowing I potentially saved my families life. What a country we live in. These laws will never change.
I would be at peace knowing I'm a righteous badass against cops, soft-minded prosecutors, and armed thugs, which all appear to be one and the same in this unfortunate story.
Be concerned, at a minimum, because the government has stolen your means of self-defense, is unlikely to return them, and the surviving attackers can plainly see that the government has their backs should they decide to get some revenge for their fallen fellow criminal.
And what would have happened if the bad guys didn't have a gun, zip ties and rope.... presumably the murder charge would have stuck and he would go to jail. In the dead of night there's no time to try to devine the bad guys intent rather there's only time to act. He was very fortunate that they were armed they way they were...and now he's sits unarmed, helpless against the likely return of these losers...just like the politicians like it. The idiots who make up these ridiculous laws often have round the clock ARMED protection so to them this all seems perfectly reasonable.
You know that there is heavy political pressure to always arrest whenever somebody uses a firearm against a person at all, in your home, against armed kidnappers, doesn't matter. If you even contemplate having a gun in case of a life or death circumstance in your home you will fail the test. It's not something I need to worry about with my living situation however for so many people the government is forcing them into victimization. If they keep his firearms that's just disgusting, he's already out so much and he's the victim here. There's so much political pressure against guns the government is literally treating the victim as if he's the criminal. Makes me sick.
I agree 100% and feel this man could have his life put in serious danger from this moment onward as a result of this incident, he really needs his guns like never before. So much so, that if taken away, could be the motivation to purchase an illegal gun. It’s an unnecessary nightmare for an innocent man & his family.
@@Ken-gv6sb You know that the political arm of the prosecution that pushed for this is counting on this and is going to try to engineer whatever circumstance they can to spot check the storage of the guns. If the homeowner is rightfully and logically afraid of reprisals from the gang and stores his firearms and ammo in such a way that he could access them in an emergency then they're going to charge him and send him away for 10 years. They absolutely itch to get into gunowners homes to check on how difficult it is to access firearms and ammo, it's disgusting, go after actual criminals who don't bother with any of this. It's a performative charade so they can say look we're doing something about gun violence despite it literally being a completely different subset of people who don't have PALs or gun safes who commit it all. They're so far gone off the deepend and hate gunowners that they're giddy about ruining totally normal people's lives. Conversely they also have a huge soft spot for criminals especially if they're high up on the victim ladder that they're soft on people who actually victimize others with firearms.
@@bencheevers6693 I feel the same. In fact I believe it’s another chapter in the Justice Industry where so much taxpayer money is milked by a chosen few perpetuating crime that nothing will ever be done about it. If only the public knew how much taxpayer’s dollars are wasted defending criminals while saying we can’t afford schools, hospitals and old age pensions. Getting tough with law abiding gun owners is obviously nothing more than a political stunt to appease the blind masses and goes against the advice of police chiefs across canada. As George Carlin once said: “It’s a great big club and you ain’t in it”
@@bencheevers6693 its not hate its chaos. these are all just means to an end. tyranny requires chaos to thrive. housing, justice, medical system education.... its not just coincidence that these foundations of western society are under attack. i hate to be conspiratorial but it is the simplest answer occams razor
This political environment coming from an entitled, enabled Prime Minister who knew nothing BUT private armed security his entire childhood while his father was PM. The man has no grip on reality.
There was no case and this didn’t really establish any rights at all, as we would if this went to trial and he won establishing case law. So this was just a waste of time and hopefully a learning experience for the authorities to do investigations before wrongful arresting someone for defending themselves.
@@paulburton8264 No he should be able to sue the men and women personally who did the actions that caused his harm. In other words the cops involved in laying charges and the crown prosecutors and or judges who did not dismiss them immediately. Why the fuck should the rest of us have to pay for their idiocy?
How does a prosecutor go 'oh this man shot and killed one of FIVE armed assailants who broke into his home? Welp, time to charge him with 2nd degree murder' like that prosecutor is deeply unfit and quite frankly an added layer of danger to the community. In my humblest opinion.
Prosecutors who lay charges that are clearly stupid, such as in this case, ought to be penalized. There needs to be some sort of incentive for them to not proceed with charges in cases like this where the established evidence is so clear.
@@paulburton8264 Trudeau has definitely made it worse but it was fucked long before he came along. I know a fair number of police officers and they are all without exception increasingly frustrated with what’s happening.
He can but one of the things you'd have to prove is that the police acted in bad faith, like for example, they knew who he was and had a prior history with him as a protestor/activist or something like that and put him though this intentionally/willfully, to cause him financial damages and intentional mental anguish. You're unlikely to win if the police acted in good faith but did a poor investigation and simply screwed up or could have done better.
@@NewsNowVictoria He was a firearms owner that lawfully used his firearms and they arrested and charged him without any evidence, let alone compelling evidence. That seems to not be a good faith situation to me?
Wrong, despite the lies the media and current government spews. We absolutely do have that right in Canada. Full stop. Any charges are corruption/incompetence and you end up fighting it like this guy. A similar situation happened a few years ago near my area. Husband and wife had a home invasion where they were taken hostage. Their adult son was living at home and selling drugs. (That's the reason for the invasion) he wasn't at home at the time it started. Came home mid point. Caused a distraction, and the father was able to grab the gun from one invader and shot one. He spent 2 years in court but did walk away an innocent man. They just want you to think you can't. That's the sickening thing...
See, I agree with castle doctrine- I just don't agree with the people who salivate at the chance to kill a bad guy with their gun, as opposed to someone who has a gun just in case.
@@fandomcringebucket Well.... those are the uneducated types who don't understand the concept of liability. They also don't know what PTSD is. A select few of them don't have a conscience either. Having to point a firearm at somebody is bad enough. That's power in your hands. Even if you're absolutely justified? You still have to go through criminal, civil and then live with it the rest of your life.
@@fandomcringebucketI agree. I support the idea of castle doctrine but not the idea of itching to play Rambo. If someone breaks into your house you should be able to defend yourself, your family and your home. However for example if a non-violent person with a mental impairment let's themselves into my home because they were lost or wandered off, I don't think they deserve to be harmed for an innocent mistake. Legislation and expectations ought to be nuanced enough to differentiate without always having to run to the courts.
What really helped this man is he showed restraint by only firing one shot and he never chased after the other intruders. I pray this will be an example for our justice system.
I've written and said this a hundred times: The police almost always take the position, "Let the courts decide". That's all well and good for them but the innocent guy has to go through hell and financial hardship until the charges are withdrawn or thrown out.
Gun owners who are members of a range typically are members of one of two organizations that provide INSURANCE to pay for the legal costs he incurred..
This concept removes the separation of powers. Cops should never be allowed to lay charges. They should only be allowed to lay information and the charging should be the responsibility of the prosecutors office. You will hear constantly the defence of “cops not qualified to give a legal opinion” when being cross examined in court yet somehow they magically have the power to make a legal determination to lay a charge in the first place??? Ridiculous. Thus any time a cop lays a charge is a violation of law.
I was so glad to hear his charges were dropped. I live in the next town over. He should have never been charged to begin with. One should be able to protect their home.
@@444mopar: This is similar in nature to how the gov't is manipulating the legal system with the C-19 cases... They don't want to admit they are wrong, so they merely insist that since they have temporarily suspended their grievious actions - that somehow no legal harm or foul was committed on their part, simply because the restrictions are not in force atm; even though they could be reinstated at a moment's notice (but they do not want any legal precedent set to prevent them from acting in the exact same manner if the opportunity ever arises again)!! This isn't "Justice" - it's legalised entrapment with an automatic built-in escape clause for The Monarchy... The Gov't. doesn't have to play fair or be "honourable" because they have carte blanche to do as they please in their manipulated de facto entitlement system.
"And they had masks" Actually, an intruder with a mask is less scary than an intruder without a mask. Having a mask implies that you'll live and they don't want you to be able to identify them. No mask implies that they aren' worried about identification, so assume they'll kill you.
That logic doesn't check out so much these days, with cameras everywhere. Even if they haf the worst attentions, a mask could only help prevent their identification.
Dropped the charges ! AT WHAT COST ? How much did this guy have to pay a lawyer/lawyers till the crown dropped the charges for something the police and crown should NEVER have gone ahead with in the first place. His life turned upside down and I am sure many sleepless nights. Charges dropped ...... but we will bankrupt you ! They leave you feeling that YOU are the criminal instead of what you are, the victim. That is Canadian justice. SAD
Taken to jail, leaving his household undefended while at least 3 criminals on-the-loose, targeting that household - THEY KNOW THE ADDRESS - should be obvious.
before anyone says this was a victory reminder he spent 2 weeks in jail, had to post a 100k+ bond and had to turn over all his firearms and was under house arrest his entire trial. score one for the good guys!
I'm glad the charges were dropped. One should have the right to defend their home and loved ones when people break into your home with God, only knowing what they were going to do.
We need a "castle doctrine" like some of the states in the U.S......in Canada our home is our castle too and the right of self defence comes from God not Marxist liberals!!! Nuff said!
@@user-mq9co4tl1w Not only that but no more double jeopardy. There is another video on Ian Runckle's channel where the prosecutor appealed the acquittal on someone and kept dragging the poor guy back into court until they finally got him! Total B.S.
This is exactly why a lot of people south of the boarder and elsewhere think we don’t have the right to protect ourselves! Good for the gentleman that won! And shame on the justice system but this is a great outcome 👍🏻
You would hope so but they won't listen. Maybe SOME individual officers will but the organizations as a whole absolutely WILL NOT change. Canadians need to stand up for themselves!
It is my opinion that the system will take every opportunity to discourage anyone from thinking they can act independently even when it's entirely legal.
it is very sad to hear that the guy lost a lot of money on top of all this. Furthermore if you are assaulted by 5 masked men inside your house at night, imagine the psychological trauma that you should probably have afterwards...
The system should've immediately provided counselling or some kind of psychological support for having gone through the trauma, instead of compounding the trauma.
In the US they have the Felony Murder rule which applies the charges to accomplices when another dies during the commission of a serious crime. In other words, if you & your buddies decide to commit a home invasion and one of them gets killed by the victim, then you get charged as an accomplice to murder. Seems very fair. In Canada we charge the victim
Absolutely insane. He spends time in jail and pays huge bail, yet repeat violent offenders are released same day with no bail. Our court system has lost its mind.
I feel so sorry for this man. We were in exactly the same situation in February. 5 armed men broke into our house. I woke up looking down the barrel of a handgun. My son and I were tied up and they stole everything. Still suffering from PTSD.
I would like to see the person in the Crown who authorized the charges/arrest and have them answer in Parliament for exactly why they took this approach and how they will never let it happen again.
Two questions come to mind ... Did the police act independently without consultation with the Crown Attorney prior to charging this man in the interest of getting a murder charge for their stats ? Next , If this was a police officer and his mom's home that got attacked would a criminal charge had even been considered ?
The police do not have the power to lay charges. All they may do is recommend laying charges. The crown prosecution reviews the evidence then decides whether or not to lay charges.
Thank God the charges were dropped. I feel so awful for him and his mom for going through double tragedy of being attacked by thugs and then the government.
The police and prosecutors should face criminal charges, absolutely disgusting that he would be charged in the first place, what a pathetic legal system.
It is just so absolutely ridiculous that the police charged the victim! Didn't he go through enough?? In the states, the police would be telling him; "Good job!" or "Saved us some work". But in Canada, this is a clear example of how idiotic it is. The people who decided to charge him should be sued !!!!
I can't believe the Prosecution can get away with this. So, so disturbing. It makes you concerned if you are ever a victim of a crime. He can't even count on the law to protect him now, as he has no gun and some of the criminals are still at large.
I live in a nearby city, Halton region. Is there a way to officially let the prosecutors and police know how frankly pissed I am with what they did him? Charge now, ask questions later. Disgusting.
They still make you go through the process and punish you with the long dragged out process. They need to send a message to tell people that you are NOT allowed to defend yourself against anyone. not against criminals, not against the mentally ill but most importantly, you cannot defend yourself against the government.
There should be some recompense when prosecutors do this, and penalties for the prosecutors. We do not give them the job to oppress civilians like this.
Just my 2 cents but no one who defends their own life and family from an intruder should ever be charged with murder, they should be given an award for getting rid of human trash.
Say what you will about the USA however one thing they definitely got right is if an intruder forces their way into your home you are allowed to protect yourself and your family.
This has also happened in England! An old man managed to stab one of the intruders with his own screwdriver…brought to the terrifying break-in to threaten the elderly homeowners! The police frightened the couple MORE by arresting him. There was public outrage until he was released & apologised to by the police!! His wife had severe Alzheimer’s & was asleep in bed. The other home invader headed upstairs (towards her bedroom) whilst the other held he husband, threatening him with the screwdriver. The husband panicked to save his vulnerable wife & managed to stab the home robber with his own weapon…
this is NOT good news. one of the most clear cut self defense cases but only released after being thrown in jail, spend life savings on legal fees and all of this took months.
It is the way the law is worded. Change one word from "shall" to "may" and instead of having mandatory charges laid, it gives the police the option to actually investigate the facts first before deciding whether or not to lay charges.
Unfortunately the word 'shall' is there because the police in this country previously would always lay charges against specific groups of people, but not lay charges against other specific groups of people ... one group gets the benefit of the doubt while the other group did not. We need clearly defined intelligent laws, not police that have the discretion to pick and choose. They haven't evolved enough yet to be given that privilege.
@@daveklassen7052 I disagree. It was reworded as part of the government trying to appear to be getting tougher on firearms offences several years ago. Police have the discretion to lay or not lay charges in all other areas except firearms offences but you continue to think your way.
The police and prosecutors should be charged with some sort of malicious prosecution. At the very least those who charged him should be publicly identified and shamed as the evil individuals that they’ve proven themselves to be.
Ian, why couldn’t he bring a civil suit for all the time and money he lost? It might make them think twice before doing this again to someone else. Thanks for covering this. Hope you feel better soon!
I’m a huge backer of the RCMP, but crap like this is why people say F the police or defund the police. They do no favours for their brand when they pull this crap.
he was charged to have a chilling effect on every other person who might be in that situation to make them call the police instead of risking their freedom when facing a valid threat.
We need a system where a Crown prosecutor is held accountable for using the law to further an agenda. Completely unacceptable. This young man needs community support for protecting his mother and home. Not to mention the possible lasting trauma that he may be dealing with. If there's not already a GoFundMe page set up to assist him and his family, there should be.
Canada has a legal system, not a justice system. Kid should’ve not had to pay $130,000 bail, be stripped of his firearms, and license. Punished for defending his family. This country is disgusting.
This shouldn't have been an issue in the first place, self defense period, these clowns trying to charge him for murder should have their asses fired for incompetence and wasting tax payers money like that, unbelievable.
Thanks for your input on this! As a legal firearms owner, I’ve always wondered what the consequences would be for self defense in your own home. I think its appalling the legal costs are on him, that he had to post bail and can’t recover that money, and now has a criminal record. The legal fees should be billed to the people that illegally entered his home!! Totally to the one guy they caught, then disbursed among the remaining criminals once they’re caught. I’m sure the one criminal would have reason to give up his buddies knowing he alone as to pay for the legal defense of the true victim. My belief is when you’re convicted of a serious crime such as this your forfeit all rights and are held fully accountable for damages caused by the illegal actions. Totally unjust for the victim in this!! 🤬
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Let me get this straight. In Canada if you’re a repeat violent offender your caught and immediately released over and over. But if you’re a normal citizen getting attacked with your mom in your home you have to go to jail and pay lawyers. Great job Canada
Let no good deed go unpunished:
"On September 19 at 10:40 a.m., one man saw another man place a small child in the trunk of a vehicle at a strip mall in Yarmouth. The child was placed in the trunk and left there unattended while the man was inside a store. The man came out of the store a short time later and removed the child from the trunk and put her in the back seat of the car. The witness called police, and he confronted the man with a firearm he retrieved from his vehicle. He tried to keep the man from leaving with the child before police arrived but was unsuccessful. The entire interaction was captured on surveillance video.
Police arrested the witness for firearms offences. He was taken to the detachment for processing. RCMP made inquiries to locate the man and child, and found them in Yarmouth County. The man was arrested and taken to Yarmouth RCMP. The man and child are known to each other and the child was in the man's care at the time of the incident.
The man, a 33-year-old from Yarmouth, was released on conditions and is facing charges of:
Criminal Negligence
· Abandonment
· Forcible Confinement
The witness, a 19-year-old man from Yarmouth, was released on conditions and is facing charges of:
Careless Use of a Firearm
· Possession of a Weapon for a Dangerous Purpose
· Using a Firearm in the Commission of an Offence"
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@@paulburton8264 Shit was like this for a while now. Back before he was still making questionable Halloween costume choices.
More like Great Job Trudeau 🦠💀💩🖕
Not one Canadian has ever been convicted for defending themselves in their own home. Not one...ever!
The fact that he was charged at all is disgusting. There needs to be severe repurcusions on these prosecuters
It was sent as a message to what happens to you if you use a gun to defend yourself with a gun in this country
The prosecutors will get promotions and raises.
Prosecutors don't make the law...stupid politicians do.
They stole his property, incarcerated him unjustly and "left him holding the bag." And we call this our "justice" system."
And you are Surprised??...Give your head a shake....you live in Canuckistan....where the Sheeple need to keep quiet and ....DO EXACTLY AS THEY AS THEY ARE TOLD!!!. 😂
Legal system - not justice system!
It’s absolutely disgusting what this country has become
It's always been this way. It was only a veneer of freedom that kept people in the dark till society had become corrupt enough to see it.
@@halielouya453
EDIT: I read the statement wrong lol
Ok so if the attacker is pointing a gun at him and then Mian instead shoots in to the ceiling, what will the attacker plausibly do with the firearm he is pointing at Mian? Should he, pray tell shoot in to the ceiling too?
Only a complete fool assumes that when the attacker has a firearm out, that you should instead shoot in to the ceiling. That round may go in to an upstairs apartment and kill a kid by the way if they lived in a building.
Could you be any more dense with that assumption given we know for sure the attackers were armed?
The process is the punishment. It cost him 10’s of thousands of dollars for no reason.
Court should order to reimburse
buy insurance. that's your best protection against this until law is changed.
and this is the INTENT...
@@hughchen9683? That’s your advice? Victimless crime then huh? Idiot.
hopefully he had firearm liability insurance, there are some good ones that are affordable and cover half a million dollars in lawyer fees
It needs to be possible to prosecute the prosecutors when they impose such obvious prolonged deliberate unjust suspension of rights.
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Prosecutor has 'qualified immunity'
In the us a lawyer is basically required have a reasonable case and can face sanctions and be disbarred for having an unreasonable case. Ideally, bad cases get dismissed with prejudice by the judge.
But you also have to remember that the purpose of legal procedure is to find the facts and render judgment in a case. It's very dangerous to create a situation where representing someone (a right guaranteed, I believe, by the canadian charter of rights?) Becomes professionally dangerous and makes it more or less impossible for people to get legal representation. And what even happens with public defenders in this case?
In this case it's the crown vs a citizen, so really the solution is to put political pressure on whomever selects whatever Canadian district attorneys are called to make sure they aren't criminally prosecuting people.
@@alexs7670 Government employees with no fear of imposing excessive injustices, will impose it.
We *can* write rules to protect government employees from honest errors, and also rules which utterly remove that protection when they become tyrants.
Slippery slopes *can* be made safe by installation of robust anti-slip devices.
I'm an engineer, and my fear of the consequences of a terrible mistake makes me a *better* engineer.
Private prosecutors are a thing in Canada. I think Ian Thomson (house firebombed years ago) sued.
The accused should be regarded as a hero for protecting his mother!
Agreed, however that requires common sense and we as a country seem to be running low on that these days
He is the hero to all the gun enthusiasts of this amazing country.
So he's victimized twice!! Once from the criminals and then the Justice system!! There should be a process in place for a victim to recoup his legal cost.
If the system worked that way it would sure do wonders to weed out frivolous cases like this. Yet in the same breath your average thug would be unaffected because those people don't have jobs and their defense is paid for by the taxpayers anyway. Really a win-win for the average working citizen, which is why it will never happen.
Intruders had a firearm, zip ties and rope… truly unbelievable this man was charged.
If I were him, regardless of the outcome, I would be at peace knowing I potentially saved my families life. What a country we live in. These laws will never change.
I would be at peace knowing I'm a righteous badass against cops, soft-minded prosecutors, and armed thugs, which all appear to be one and the same in this unfortunate story.
Be concerned, at a minimum, because the government has stolen your means of self-defense, is unlikely to return them, and the surviving attackers can plainly see that the government has their backs should they decide to get some revenge for their fallen fellow criminal.
Brought to you by Marxist liberals.....Yup...just saaad!!!!
I'm sure he's at peace with his actions, but I imagine his incarceration, gun seizure, and legal bills make a difficult situation almost impossible.
And what would have happened if the bad guys didn't have a gun, zip ties and rope.... presumably the murder charge would have stuck and he would go to jail.
In the dead of night there's no time to try to devine the bad guys intent rather there's only time to act. He was very fortunate that they were armed they way they were...and now he's sits unarmed, helpless against the likely return of these losers...just like the politicians like it.
The idiots who make up these ridiculous laws often have round the clock ARMED protection so to them this all seems perfectly reasonable.
You know that there is heavy political pressure to always arrest whenever somebody uses a firearm against a person at all, in your home, against armed kidnappers, doesn't matter. If you even contemplate having a gun in case of a life or death circumstance in your home you will fail the test. It's not something I need to worry about with my living situation however for so many people the government is forcing them into victimization. If they keep his firearms that's just disgusting, he's already out so much and he's the victim here. There's so much political pressure against guns the government is literally treating the victim as if he's the criminal. Makes me sick.
I agree 100% and feel this man could have his life put in serious danger from this moment onward as a result of this incident, he really needs his guns like never before. So much so, that if taken away, could be the motivation to purchase an illegal gun. It’s an unnecessary nightmare for an innocent man & his family.
@@Ken-gv6sb You know that the political arm of the prosecution that pushed for this is counting on this and is going to try to engineer whatever circumstance they can to spot check the storage of the guns. If the homeowner is rightfully and logically afraid of reprisals from the gang and stores his firearms and ammo in such a way that he could access them in an emergency then they're going to charge him and send him away for 10 years. They absolutely itch to get into gunowners homes to check on how difficult it is to access firearms and ammo, it's disgusting, go after actual criminals who don't bother with any of this. It's a performative charade so they can say look we're doing something about gun violence despite it literally being a completely different subset of people who don't have PALs or gun safes who commit it all. They're so far gone off the deepend and hate gunowners that they're giddy about ruining totally normal people's lives. Conversely they also have a huge soft spot for criminals especially if they're high up on the victim ladder that they're soft on people who actually victimize others with firearms.
@@bencheevers6693 I feel the same. In fact I believe it’s another chapter in the Justice Industry where so much taxpayer money is milked by a chosen few perpetuating crime that nothing will ever be done about it. If only the public knew how much taxpayer’s dollars are wasted defending criminals while saying we can’t afford schools, hospitals and old age pensions. Getting tough with law abiding gun owners is obviously nothing more than a political stunt to appease the blind masses and goes against the advice of police chiefs across canada.
As George Carlin once said: “It’s a great big club and you ain’t in it”
@@bencheevers6693 its not hate its chaos. these are all just means to an end. tyranny requires chaos to thrive. housing, justice, medical system education.... its not just coincidence that these foundations of western society are under attack. i hate to be conspiratorial but it is the simplest answer occams razor
This political environment coming from an entitled, enabled Prime Minister who knew nothing BUT private armed security his entire childhood while his father was PM. The man has no grip on reality.
Finally things go the right way for self defence !Everyone has the right to survive not corporations .Self defence is a human right,not a privelege.
Sadly he still had the financial burden and the memories of being hassled by the police when he needed help from them the most.
@@jacobkudrowich that's why there should be compensation for innocent people .The legal costs plus any loss of income and freedoms
Not in a fascist state. And ca is a fascist state
@@gbear1005 actually we are closer to communist dictator ship Which technically Chinada is .The difference is state run media vs corporate run media .
There was no case and this didn’t really establish any rights at all, as we would if this went to trial and he won establishing case law. So this was just a waste of time and hopefully a learning experience for the authorities to do investigations before wrongful arresting someone for defending themselves.
"You're under arrest!"
"For what, Officer?"
"Don't worry about it, we'll find a reason later..."
“Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime.” - Lavrentiy Beria, head of Joseph Stalin's secret police
In Canada we shouldn't have to spend our lifes savings to defend our clear innocence in cases like this. We need castle laws here
He should be able to sue the Crown for all costs plus interest
@@paulburton8264 No he should be able to sue the men and women personally who did the actions that caused his harm. In other words the cops involved in laying charges and the crown prosecutors and or judges who did not dismiss them immediately.
Why the fuck should the rest of us have to pay for their idiocy?
How does a prosecutor go 'oh this man shot and killed one of FIVE armed assailants who broke into his home? Welp, time to charge him with 2nd degree murder' like that prosecutor is deeply unfit and quite frankly an added layer of danger to the community. In my humblest opinion.
Prosecutors who lay charges that are clearly stupid, such as in this case, ought to be penalized. There needs to be some sort of incentive for them to not proceed with charges in cases like this where the established evidence is so clear.
I'm ashamed to be canadian.
Yup🎉🎉🎉
Why can't the prosecutor be sued for malicious prosecution?
The Canadian justice system is beyond ridiculous. Not a lick of common sense to be found.
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@@paulburton8264 Trudeau has definitely made it worse but it was fucked long before he came along. I know a fair number of police officers and they are all without exception increasingly frustrated with what’s happening.
Laws in Canada protect criminals, not victims. Self defense laws are way overdue to be revamped and rewritten.
Can't he sue for wrongful arrest/jail, legal expenses, lost work time?
This is Canada, not the United States. The Crown will appeal any suit, with your tax dollars, until you are bankrupt.
He can but one of the things you'd have to prove is that the police acted in bad faith, like for example, they knew who he was and had a prior history with him as a protestor/activist or something like that and put him though this intentionally/willfully, to cause him financial damages and intentional mental anguish. You're unlikely to win if the police acted in good faith but did a poor investigation and simply screwed up or could have done better.
@@NewsNowVictoria He was a firearms owner that lawfully used his firearms and they arrested and charged him without any evidence, let alone compelling evidence. That seems to not be a good faith situation to me?
@@alanjackson1015 Then you don't understand how it actually works. Read my comment again.
I truly hate the Canadian justice system, it gives criminals laughable sentences and tries its absolute hardest to try to ruin victims lives.
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Since we no longer have a justice system, we should treat criminals with a "Shoot, shovel and shut up," attitude.
Self defense, especially in one’s castle, is a human right.
Except in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, New York, California, Canada, Sweden, Hawaii....
Wrong, despite the lies the media and current government spews. We absolutely do have that right in Canada. Full stop. Any charges are corruption/incompetence and you end up fighting it like this guy. A similar situation happened a few years ago near my area. Husband and wife had a home invasion where they were taken hostage. Their adult son was living at home and selling drugs. (That's the reason for the invasion) he wasn't at home at the time it started. Came home mid point. Caused a distraction, and the father was able to grab the gun from one invader and shot one. He spent 2 years in court but did walk away an innocent man. They just want you to think you can't. That's the sickening thing...
See, I agree with castle doctrine- I just don't agree with the people who salivate at the chance to kill a bad guy with their gun, as opposed to someone who has a gun just in case.
@@fandomcringebucket Well.... those are the uneducated types who don't understand the concept of liability. They also don't know what PTSD is. A select few of them don't have a conscience either. Having to point a firearm at somebody is bad enough. That's power in your hands. Even if you're absolutely justified? You still have to go through criminal, civil and then live with it the rest of your life.
@@fandomcringebucketI agree. I support the idea of castle doctrine but not the idea of itching to play Rambo. If someone breaks into your house you should be able to defend yourself, your family and your home. However for example if a non-violent person with a mental impairment let's themselves into my home because they were lost or wandered off, I don't think they deserve to be harmed for an innocent mistake. Legislation and expectations ought to be nuanced enough to differentiate without always having to run to the courts.
What really helped this man is he showed restraint by only firing one shot and he never chased after the other intruders.
I pray this will be an example for our justice system.
I've written and said this a hundred times: The police almost always take the position, "Let the courts decide". That's all well and good for them but the innocent guy has to go through hell and financial hardship until the charges are withdrawn or thrown out.
Yep even though it's a total violation of their oath AND the charter when they do it! It's TOTALLY illegal.
Gun owners who are members of a range typically are members of one of two organizations that provide INSURANCE to pay for the legal costs he incurred..
This concept removes the separation of powers. Cops should never be allowed to lay charges. They should only be allowed to lay information and the charging should be the responsibility of the prosecutors office.
You will hear constantly the defence of “cops not qualified to give a legal opinion” when being cross examined in court yet somehow they magically have the power to make a legal determination to lay a charge in the first place??? Ridiculous.
Thus any time a cop lays a charge is a violation of law.
I was so glad to hear his charges were dropped. I live in the next town over. He should have never been charged to begin with. One should be able to protect their home.
They didn't even drop the charges because they thought he was innocent. They dropped them because they didn't think they could prove his guilt.
more of a Guilty until proven innocent kind of system it feels like....
How sad is that
@@NightWarp it is
Not only that they also dropped the charges because they were afraid of losing in court and setting a self defense precedent.
@@444mopar: This is similar in nature to how the gov't is manipulating the legal system with the C-19 cases...
They don't want to admit they are wrong, so they merely insist that since they have temporarily suspended their grievious actions - that somehow no legal harm or foul was committed on their part, simply because the restrictions are not in force atm;
even though they could be reinstated at a moment's notice (but they do not want any legal precedent set to prevent them from acting in the exact same manner if the opportunity ever arises again)!!
This isn't "Justice" - it's legalised entrapment with an automatic built-in escape clause for The Monarchy...
The Gov't. doesn't have to play fair or be "honourable" because they have carte blanche to do as they please in their manipulated de facto entitlement system.
"And they had masks"
Actually, an intruder with a mask is less scary than an intruder without a mask.
Having a mask implies that you'll live and they don't want you to be able to identify them.
No mask implies that they aren' worried about identification, so assume they'll kill you.
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You're absolutely right, other than him going for his rifle, that's another thing that saved them.
That logic doesn't check out so much these days, with cameras everywhere. Even if they haf the worst attentions, a mask could only help prevent their identification.
Maybe in the 80s this actually meant something, nowadays it doesn't mean anything. Ever heard of "no face, no case"?
@@user-nk3re4dj5hwrong. His analysis is exactly right. You are talking about a whole other topic.
Dropped the charges ! AT WHAT COST ? How much did this guy have to pay a lawyer/lawyers till the crown dropped the charges for something the police and crown should NEVER have gone ahead with in the first place. His life turned upside down and I am sure many sleepless nights.
Charges dropped ...... but we will bankrupt you !
They leave you feeling that YOU are the criminal instead of what you are, the victim.
That is Canadian justice. SAD
House owner gets immediately arrested and taken into custody, welcome to Canada!!!
Glad to hear charges were dropped but it’s sad that he went through this unnecessarily
Taken to jail, leaving his household undefended while at least 3 criminals on-the-loose, targeting that household - THEY KNOW THE ADDRESS - should be obvious.
So, out of five assailants, three are at large, one is dead, the last is in custody? Can he sue this dude to recover his expenses?
I hope he can sue the prosecutors for legal fees
before anyone says this was a victory reminder he spent 2 weeks in jail, had to post a 100k+ bond and had to turn over all his firearms and was under house arrest his entire trial. score one for the good guys!
Yeah and a regular person may have lost their job in that time or lost their home if they didn't have enough in savings to float their mortgage/rent.
I'm glad the charges were dropped. One should have the right to defend their home and loved ones when people break into your home with God, only knowing what they were going to do.
Shouldn't be just at home. You're even more exposed outside your home.
That comma really makes a difference. If someone was breaking into my home with God, not sure anything I do is going to help :-p
@@Coldheart322 Oooh! Instant lightning bolts flying everywhere!
We need a "castle doctrine" like some of the states in the U.S......in Canada our home is our castle too and the right of self defence comes from God not Marxist liberals!!! Nuff said!
@@user-mq9co4tl1w Not only that but no more double jeopardy. There is another video on Ian Runckle's channel where the prosecutor appealed the acquittal on someone and kept dragging the poor guy back into court until they finally got him! Total B.S.
This is exactly why a lot of people south of the boarder and elsewhere think we don’t have the right to protect ourselves! Good for the gentleman that won! And shame on the justice system but this is a great outcome 👍🏻
Hopefully this will send a message to the OPP and other police services
You would hope so but they won't listen. Maybe SOME individual officers will but the organizations as a whole absolutely WILL NOT change. Canadians need to stand up for themselves!
It would be Halton Regional Police! Not the OPP
@@WiseguyKevIn2 does it matter, our police officers, and not all but I would say most, are "just doing my job" so, meh, eff all man.
Not likely
It is my opinion that the system will take every opportunity to discourage anyone from thinking they can act independently even when it's entirely legal.
it is very sad to hear that the guy lost a lot of money on top of all this. Furthermore if you are assaulted by 5 masked men inside your house at night, imagine the psychological trauma that you should probably have afterwards...
The system should've immediately provided counselling or some kind of psychological support for having gone through the trauma, instead of compounding the trauma.
Now that the charges have been dropped, could the actual victim in all of this apply to a victims assistance fund to cover some of the costs?
Yes, but even if approved it’ll be a drop in the bucket in terms of the actual cost to the victim who was charged with murder
Police and Crown Prosecutors: "are we really the baddies here?" You betcha.
In the US they have the Felony Murder rule which applies the charges to accomplices when another dies during the commission of a serious crime. In other words, if you & your buddies decide to commit a home invasion and one of them gets killed by the victim, then you get charged as an accomplice to murder. Seems very fair.
In Canada we charge the victim
How can the prosecution get to drop the case without any consequences? The homeowner doesn't even get his day in court to prove his innocence.
Absolutely insane. He spends time in jail and pays huge bail, yet repeat violent offenders are released same day with no bail. Our court system has lost its mind.
Thank you for keeping us informed of this story.
that man should not have been charged in the first place this is disgusting behavior by the government and is malicious prosecution
The Crown should have to reimburse all his legal expenses.
thanks Runkle! yeah side with the homeowner not the invaders!!!!
I - Can he sue for malicious arrest
2 - Can he get the charges removed with prejudice so they can’t come after him again?
Get well soon, Runkle. At least they did drop the charges, but the poor guy is still out a ton of $. What bullshit they put him through! SMH
Does he have to go through a revocation case to get his PAL, firearms and other properties back from the courts and police?.
I bet they were all destroyed, and he'll never be "allowed" to have a PAL again.
@@JK-gq5rl I am not so sure about that, especially if he has had all charges dropped
I feel so sorry for this man. We were in exactly the same situation in February. 5 armed men broke into our house. I woke up looking down the barrel of a handgun. My son and I were tied up and they stole everything. Still suffering from PTSD.
I would like to see the person in the Crown who authorized the charges/arrest and have them answer in Parliament for exactly why they took this approach and how they will never let it happen again.
Two questions come to mind ... Did the police act independently without consultation with the Crown Attorney prior to charging this man in the interest of getting a murder charge for their stats ? Next , If this was a police officer and his mom's home that got attacked would a criminal charge had even been considered ?
I was thinking the same.
The police do not have the power to lay charges. All they may do is recommend laying charges. The crown prosecution reviews the evidence then decides whether or not to lay charges.
@@444mopar You're absolutely right.
Thank God the charges were dropped. I feel so awful for him and his mom for going through double tragedy of being attacked by thugs and then the government.
Avoiding the embarrassment of taking it through a preliminary inquiry.
It is extremely concerning that it took them 5 months to drop the charges. What a f-ing disgrace.
Idea:
Do an on-camera interview with the defendant and/or his lawyer!!
The police and prosecutors should face criminal charges, absolutely disgusting that he would be charged in the first place, what a pathetic legal system.
It is just so absolutely ridiculous that the police charged the victim! Didn't he go through enough?? In the states, the police would be telling him; "Good job!" or "Saved us some work". But in Canada, this is a clear example of how idiotic it is. The people who decided to charge him should be sued !!!!
I can't believe the Prosecution can get away with this. So, so disturbing. It makes you concerned if you are ever a victim of a crime. He can't even count on the law to protect him now, as he has no gun and some of the criminals are still at large.
Goes to show how sick this country has become
I live in a nearby city, Halton region. Is there a way to officially let the prosecutors and police know how frankly pissed I am with what they did him?
Charge now, ask questions later. Disgusting.
Did they not believe there was a threat?
In the USA lawyers would be lining up to file lawsuits against the municipality.
They still make you go through the process and punish you with the long dragged out process. They need to send a message to tell people that you are NOT allowed to defend yourself against anyone. not against criminals, not against the mentally ill but most importantly, you cannot defend yourself against the government.
They drag the person through the mud and then drop the charges. This country is so broken.
Can he sue the dead perpetrator's estate ?
You'd have to to hire an investigator or firm to find out if, A. if they actually have money to go after and B. their address.
There should be some recompense when prosecutors do this, and penalties for the prosecutors. We do not give them the job to oppress civilians like this.
Just my 2 cents but no one who defends their own life and family from an intruder should ever be charged with murder, they should be given an award for getting rid of human trash.
Say what you will about the USA however one thing they definitely got right is if an intruder forces their way into your home you are allowed to protect yourself and your family.
@@444mopar you would be surprised that in some states you can still get fucked over
Never should have been charged in the first place!
Yeah, that's what frustrated me about it, the whole, "Oh, people might be after you. You CANNOT defend yourself." That's total BS.
Also the smear of his name. Even though he was released, good luck getting a job after a potential employer googles his name, which they will.
They put him through hell. It's shameful for Canadian police to accuse the defender. Too bad he can't sue his persecutors.
As a cop Im glad this man was not brought through a trial, I wish they didnt let optics determine if they lay charges but thats a deeper issue
This has also happened in England! An old man managed to stab one of the intruders with his own screwdriver…brought to the terrifying break-in to threaten the elderly homeowners! The police frightened the couple MORE by arresting him. There was public outrage until he was released & apologised to by the police!!
His wife had severe Alzheimer’s & was asleep in bed. The other home invader headed upstairs (towards her bedroom) whilst the other held he husband, threatening him with the screwdriver. The husband panicked to save his vulnerable wife & managed to stab the home robber with his own weapon…
this is NOT good news. one of the most clear cut self defense cases but only released after being thrown in jail, spend life savings on legal fees and all of this took months.
It is the way the law is worded. Change one word from "shall" to "may" and instead of having mandatory charges laid, it gives the police the option to actually investigate the facts first before deciding whether or not to lay charges.
Unfortunately the word 'shall' is there because the police in this country previously would always lay charges against specific groups of people, but not lay charges against other specific groups of people ... one group gets the benefit of the doubt while the other group did not. We need clearly defined intelligent laws, not police that have the discretion to pick and choose. They haven't evolved enough yet to be given that privilege.
@@daveklassen7052 I disagree. It was reworded as part of the government trying to appear to be getting tougher on firearms offences several years ago. Police have the discretion to lay or not lay charges in all other areas except firearms offences but you continue to think your way.
The police and prosecutors should be charged with some sort of malicious prosecution. At the very least those who charged him should be publicly identified and shamed as the evil individuals that they’ve proven themselves to be.
The police has zero choice. Who you want to go after is the law and prosecution. This is just disgusting he got charged at all.
Ian, why couldn’t he bring a civil suit for all the time and money he lost? It might make them think twice before doing this again to someone else.
Thanks for covering this. Hope you feel better soon!
What a waste of court resources
Courts should not be in any team. They should impartially interpret the law.
It all made sense as soon as you said "Ontario."
Canada, where the victims are charged as criminals and the criminals are considered victims.
Couldn't say it better. The state of affairs makes me so sad.
Should never have been charged in the first place!
Lesson from this is that a single fatal shot could be argued as not excessive use of force. A cop would have emptied his magazine.
You're right, because I've seen videos of both!
😮😮Sounds like a huge waste of time and money for both the victim and the taxpayer.
Imagine successfully fending off a group of home invaders just to get robbed and kidnapped by the people who are supposed to be protecting you. Smh
This is absolutely terrifying and should never happen.
I’m a huge backer of the RCMP, but crap like this is why people say F the police or defund the police. They do no favours for their brand when they pull this crap.
How do Canadians lobby to bring logic & fairness back into the judicial process?
He shouldn't have been charged in the first place.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away
Try living in rural Canada. It’s not minutes, it’s hours or even never
@@paulthiessen6444 yep
he was charged to have a chilling effect on every other person who might be in that situation to make them call the police instead of risking their freedom when facing a valid threat.
We need a system where a Crown prosecutor is held accountable for using the law to further an agenda. Completely unacceptable. This young man needs community support for protecting his mother and home. Not to mention the possible lasting trauma that he may be dealing with. If there's not already a GoFundMe page set up to assist him and his family, there should be.
Canada has a legal system, not a justice system.
Kid should’ve not had to pay $130,000 bail, be stripped of his firearms, and license.
Punished for defending his family. This country is disgusting.
How come in the US people can sue for wrongful prosecution but no in Canada?!
This shouldn't have been an issue in the first place, self defense period, these clowns trying to charge him for murder should have their asses fired for incompetence and wasting tax payers money like that, unbelievable.
Thanks for your input on this! As a legal firearms owner, I’ve always wondered what the consequences would be for self defense in your own home. I think its appalling the legal costs are on him, that he had to post bail and can’t recover that money, and now has a criminal record. The legal fees should be billed to the people that illegally entered his home!! Totally to the one guy they caught, then disbursed among the remaining criminals once they’re caught. I’m sure the one criminal would have reason to give up his buddies knowing he alone as to pay for the legal defense of the true victim. My belief is when you’re convicted of a serious crime such as this your forfeit all rights and are held fully accountable for damages caused by the illegal actions. Totally unjust for the victim in this!! 🤬
There should be a box for files at the CPS labelled "Did society a favour"
Agreed totally laws need to be changed when it comes to protecting yourself and family against clowns like that