With Valve having billions of dollars there is no excuse to give anything less than a technical and competitive masterpiece. Anyone who defends major corporations like Valve, EA, or Activision, etc. is an idiot. Everyone absolutely should criticize these rich companies that fail to deliver. We are paying for their vacation homes and cars. They can make a great game for fucks sake
I think the crosshair following the spray pattern is going to be fantastic to players who are still learning spray patterns and how to follow them, much easier to see them on action than remember the path
not only that but i never liked how you aim was not you actual aim for a game design perspective i always hated that the shoot is not following the crosshair, i understand the mechanic but for me it was bad, as a player i put the crosshair on the enemy and i expect it to be the correct AIM, if the shoot is not going there then why the crosshari is there? in quake i just aim and shoot, this makes much more sense, now i can say this is good game design, for me before it was annoying.
@@Moco26 Quite a bit? I can't see anyone who wants to play seriously keeping this on. I find people turn off dynamic crosshairs pretty soon once they have a grasp on the movement mechanics, I suspect this will be the same
My biggest issue with the smoke changes were how shooting through them would create small vision holes, but hearing you say it isn't as pronounced as you thought is really making me excited to try it myself!
@@TheWarOwl Then it is fine for me. But in the video they made it looked weird, a smoke disappearing and then coming back after you stopped shooting. And then the scene where the HE killed half the smoke but then after two seconds the smoke came back somehow, that is unreal.
@@manuelgogeissl I think shooting through the smoke is more pronounced the farther away from the smoke you are from it or for the victims, likely to discourage people from spamming smokes as much. The HE is definitely a counter to smokes now. You shouldn't be expecting realism to CSGO, but it is realistic: The smoke is consistently replenished from the grenade until it runs out of fuel. So, when someone throws a grenade, it clears the air and that stays clear until the smoke grenade is able to replenish it. That is also the reason why smoke grenades work with a short delay after landing: They don't canonically spawn a puff of smoke, they release it from within themselves instead, and that takes some time.
From trailer I thought that the gap bullets will create would be too big but I got beta and tested it and it really isnt that big of a change, it basically makes spraying into smoke beneficial for your opponents because you are exposing your position first
The crosshair thing is literally a dream come true. Even on weapons that I know the recoil (somehow), it would be great because sometimes I just can't see the bullets and I forget the part of the pattern i'm on.
Cross hair following the spread is actually nothing but similar to games where you can aim down sight like pubg . It actually allows you to not memorize patterns for each gun and just keep it on target while spraying . This helps for long distance sprays
CSGO aim down sight/scope shoot sideway or up during spraying (lol). Like spraying SSG 553 the bullet always go 45degree to the NE of the scope, imagine that.
Its more beneficial for new - intermediate players imo because they can use the crosshair but once you know the pattern the bullet tracers do a good enough job of providing feedback without cluttering your target with a crosshair. Great for adapting to sprays, bad for aiming them
@@TheClanFollows is bullet tracer broken in CSGO? for example it is visible in Negev but completely zero on Bison. I can see them on SSG 553 while on scope but when tracer hit it gave no hit (squirt) effect.
The reason why the game FEELS smoother even when you have lower FPS is because the frametimes in CS2 are way more stable compared to CS:GO. From the multiple performance tests i've seen, no matter how much FPS you're getting, the frametime graph looks so smooth that it almost makes you think Vsync is on.
I been telling this to people since CS2 got announced. The lower fps really won’t matter because 90% of the reason why you needed so much fps in cs comapred to other games was because of the god awful frame times at lower fps and even higher fps it’s so inconsistent. Plus if this gets vulkan support I’m certain the fps will be similar to csgo only a bit lower
People underestimate just how important frametimes are and how much of a difference they make. The Steam Deck's 40hz mode has insanely good frametimes that it makes the experience feel smoother than it should
5:38 I know the crosshair following the recoil is icky to you and some others, but I think that's gonna be a very VERY good opportunity for newer players to get in, because one of the things that throws people off is the shooting. The crosshair following recoil makes that much more streamlined, as I find it falls in line with some of the more "standard" military styled shooters like Battlefield or COD, where you want to adjust your crosshair (red dot, acog) so you hit those shots.
That is what many gamers (that are better than average) need to understand. You need the big casual playerbase because then the devs will care more about the game. The top 20% and then the top 50% will adapt - will make whatever work. I think some "better than average" players are just scared that "below average players" will become more difficult - well... That sounds like a skill issue and go practice more.
The thing that really gets me about the people wanting this removed is the fact that there is pretty much no downside to it. - It improves the new player experience - It makes changes to spray patterns (though unlikely,) easier to adapt to - It visualizes critical information - It can be toggled off - It makes RCS cheats redundant, because the information is already available to the player
looks like cheating to me. literally decades of training just... pointless now. whatever, the game was already ruined when they turned long range AK fights into an RNG fight.
The visibility is an extreme improvement. I have eye issues and i have a really hard time seeing small color changes such as black to very dark gray and it gives me eye strain. This looks extremely good for someone like me that is unable to see T-heads in dark spots
I really liked the 'follow recoil' crosshair setting. It felt satisfying to shoot and see it bounce around the recoil pattern. I also felt like it was easier to control my sprays once you get used to the tracking. I actually like this setting a whole lot like better than the smokes update. Give it a fair shake - Play an entire match with it on. I guarantee you will miss it when you turn it off afterwards. There is something really satisfying about the bounce for real don't sleep on it!
Yes that looked huge to me watching this video. The sheer idea that counterstrike now actually shoots where the crosshair is aimed is mind blowing to me. Spray patterns will be so much easier to follow now
That has been in Csgo for years, I forget what the console command is but there is a console command that makes your crosshair move with recoil the exact same way
It takes away the competitiveness of the game. Counter strike was never meant to and never should be about the recoil following the crosshair. It is a mechanic the player must learn to get good at the game. If a new player isn’t willing to learn then idk what to say.
@@S3rkist It's barely a thing and most players had to practise it against a wall to actually know the spray pattern, either that or just look it up. It was pointless and more just practise with being able to follow it because variance still increases as you continue your spray. The practise aspect, which is the important one, still remains. Edit: Also as skill level increases needing the visual indicator to adjust your spray leaves you behind people who actually know the spray pattern.
The issue is it lowers the skill ceiling of spraying. I'm all for having this be available for training purposes (like you can do in CSGO) but in actual matches it cheapens the shooting to me
The process of blood getting dried should be a little more slower, which will give the information to the opponent or teammate, that someone was here, long gone, still here, or might be close. That will build curiosity in players during matches and we will surely see some players using that info (how much the blood has dried) in a great way.
Thank you so much war owl for your dedication over the years to us and our beloved game. Your videos are always top notch, covering the what we want to know while skipping all the bs and clickbait. Thank you.
okay now idk about everyone else but for the last month or so, i’ve been getting zero bullet tracers with the negev. the bullets are entirely invisible. now cs2 may fix this for me but additionally laying down bullet hell pipe at long range with the negev and the new crosshair just feels like something that’ll fix a lot of my issues. being able to turn it on or off with a keybind or even set it to enable itself upon using specific weapons would be great i feel like
@@mrhulloxog834 fuck off lol. i'm disabled, i'm not built like other people, i just have fun in deathmatch and the other minigames and wouldn't you know it, deathmatch will drop negevs as bonus point weapons and gun game is self explanatory. why go out of your way to be a judgemental asshole
Wait the crosshair follows the spray? THAT'S BRILLIANT I LOVE IT! Not only does this help casuals and new players learn sprays it's a great accessibility feature.
@@BibleClinger It baffles me why it was cheat protected when this feature could've really helped me learn the game and not quit like I did. Seriously this is the kind of feature that will really help the onboarding process for new players, especially since we're about to get a lot of Valorant players trying the new game
@@deco90014 It's an existing console command in CSGO, but it requires you to set sv_cheats to 1 in the console first. Only the host can do that. That is what is meant by "cheat protected." Another example of a cheat protected console command is "noclip" which lets you fly around with no friction and no collision. It also requires you to first type in sv_cheats 1. These type of commands are meant for use in private servers for testing, debugging, or other purposes (maybe to film footage of the game that you can't otherwise obtain, etc. etc..). They can be used to cheat in normal matches, which is why they are disabled by default. Also, when you have sv_cheats set to 1, you can't unlock achievements on that server during that time.
I'm glad you got into the beta, and I'm REALLY glad that it's leaving you feeling optimistic! Looking forward to the next few months, getting into the beta myself, and trying things out!
1:48 This is actually so untrue. Under-performers are already probably not comming, and will not just randomly start playing well unless you give them a reason to. For literally 8 years now when I’ve asked a bottom frag how they made it so far in life without hands, they don’t finish at the bottom 😂 Something awakens inside of you when people call you out, it’s a necessary evil.
Man, i fell in love with CS again thanks to your CS:GO videos and am following your CS content religiously. (Notifications are turned on only on your channel 😜) I hope to learn everything about CS2 from you, just like in the old days. Thanks for beeing a teacher for all generations, including us, grownup kids with kids and families of their own, that stil love video games, and making us better players and teammates. Keep up your awesome work.
I’m so pumped that valve is making games again. Even if it’s source 2 and it’s still counter strike, the amount of hand made items and hard work they’ve dedicated to it. Hyped
They started working on this right after Half Life Alyx shipped so they've pretty much been working on games for 6 years which is great to see. I remember Gabe saying a few years back they were working on 3 new games internally so this must have been one of them
People complain too much. Valve isn’t going to toss out new games every year just to rake in cash - they’re only going to release a game (or update) if it’s actually significantly impactful and worthwhile, rather that regurgitating the same old designs under a new name. Like a certain recognizable individual once said: “professionals have standards”
@@joao34386Aren't they "regurgitating the same old designs under a new name"? All I see is CSGO but under the name "CS2" with slightly better graphics and animations. I get it, you like it, you love it and I respect that, but denying this is basically the same thing while talking about how other companies "regurgitate the same old designs under a new name" is just too much. This is exactly what Overwatch 2 did. Slap a "2"in the end and expect new people to come. This is more of a CSGO: Remastered or remake. Very mediocre for a "CS2" in my humble opinion.
Personally I'm glad they added a crosshair follows the recoil option. As a fairly casual player (by CS standards) who plays a lot of different games, including shooters, it was maddening to have to 'guess' where my bullets were going because the crosshair was functionally useless after the first shot.
They should just have the option to turn it off or on . I wanna try both . I like memorizing spray patterns it's more of a challenge and feels good to drag your spray from one person to the next relying on muscle memory
@@fullmetalsasquach8229 "They should have the option" when they do have the option insinuates you believe that is a possibility yeah. Guys still a dick tho.
I really like this idea. If the anticheat won't allow third party HUDs, we should at least be able to customize the default one to personal preference.
yess, I like most changes they did (from what I saw so far, I dont have access to beta) but I prefeer the older ingame UI, no special reason, my brain is just used to it by now, so I hope there is an option in settings to go back to the current one but yeah, they can change the main menus all they want
Was thinking this myself while he was talking about it. Like - why isn't it modular, let me put them near the crosshair (Or even mini versions so I never have to leave the center) Hell, even turn the crosshair into a lightweight radar so I never look away again.
its nice to hear that player visibility improved. My first impressions from the comparison screenshots were that visibility in general decreased because of the lower contrast but it makes sense that this actually boosts player visibility, the thing we care about.
Contrast can be a bit confusing as a term in a case like this. Since contrast is used as the amount of difference between 2 things, like a black cube in front of a white wall has a high contrast. The closer together that we move the colors the less contrast they will have. However, in a 3D world we have lighting to consider too. Instead of changing the colors of the cubes, we could change the lighting in the scene. If the lights are turned all the way down, the whole scene is black and there is again no contrast between the objects. With cs2, they lifted the shadows which brings out more of the actually contrasting colors. You could think of it more like a higher dynamic range. A picture with a low dynamic range can have very high contrast as in there will be very dark areas and very light areas but the detail will be lost. As opposed to a picture with high dynamic range which can capture more detail in those dark and light areas.
Seeing you making these videos again make me nostalgic. I used to watch your videos back when you did solo queue to global elite 8 years ago. I'm glad to see you're still doing well
You summarized the frustration (and in my case the jealousy too) that a lot of csgo content creators feel about who gets access to the beta really well. Looking forward to more Warowl videos!
I'm actually super excited to see what map creators can now do with new improved tools that source 2 brings. I think maps are going to be so much better in the future!
Stumbled upon this on my recommendation tab after years of not watching and boy did I miss that non-existent closer at the end of the video, CS2 looks great!
Their explanation of "sub-tick updates" is basically what most big multiplayer games have. The server still runs on a set tick rate, you simply can't be processing inputs every .0001ms for every player and expect it to sync up. On top of that what I suspect they're doing is calculating the precise moment the player hit their input by including the processing/input delay with each packet sent to the server. The server then verifies the shot on the next tick, but rolls back the server based on the delay information that was included in the input, to more accurately calculate player positions/states at the exact point of the input. The game still runs on ticks, it's just that the server verification end of things is done more accurately, if the server is 64 tick, it will be better than CSGO, but it's still only performing those checks 64 times a second, which can result in sloppy/sluggish control on the player end of things. It's just speculation but I believe this is why the tests feel weird, they're likely testing on a lower tickrate to see the lowest they can go with their subtick system while still feeling smooth. Maybe an attempt to make running official servers cheaper? I think you can test the server delay by shooting near a smoke and seeing how long it takes for the lighting on the smoke to react to your shot. Since the smoke is server side, your client needs to get that information from the server and it's clearly delayed in some clips.
its so wholesome to see how far counter strike and its editions have come and evolved, the dust that we all used to love has now really turned itself into a piece of fine crafted art.
5:38 ngl I love this as an option sure it looks wonky but it is some what really helpful for maybe new players ? Or just some people who want a different kind of aiming I like this one, really hope Valve dont delete it
I really love the smokes. This is the best thing about it so far imho. Not sure how I like the everything is bright and shiny look. I'm okay with shadows usually. What I feel is annoying is the tracers added to the sniper rifles. That just feels wrong. Not sure if I like the card symbol in the bottom middle. It is kind of a cool idea but I think it can also be distracting. Oh, and I really liked the new end game screen. Highlighting the Steam avatars and stuff is really nice. Big improvement, also with the drops on the right side and no need to switch between stats and the rest anymore.
I have less than 60 hours on CSGO. I've been a fan of your channel for years because you are so charismatic, funny and good at making videos. ... But i think I'm gonna be playing this videogame!
Hoooooly its probably been several years since I've seen your vids in my feed. I was considering watching something to learn more about CS2, man I used to watch your content all the time. LETS GO!
Was shocked when I saw how brutal it is, even forgot that there's blood splatters in csgo because I've got clear decal bind to my movement and shooting keys.
Eventhough it might help with spotting enemies. I feel like the lack of contrast makes a lot of scenes (especially in their showcase) look worse than the originals. Still I am glad that they some active shadow casts... then again I never played CSGO and probably won't because it's just not my kind of game. Hope yall enjoy your update
I can't wait. The crosshair option showing your recoil is gonna be great for beginners who think they're shooting the opponent but don't understand the mechanics. It'll let beginners get better faster and honestly I'm for it.
I love the lighting and visibility changes. I'm sure there will be some folks who complain that CS is "becoming a kiddy arcade shooter like valorant" or something, but it looks great.
I haven't played Counterstrike in half a decade; and I likely won't again outside of a group of friends going "Let's do something nostalgic" and re-installing Condition Zero. Nothing wrong wit the game, I just have consistently 150+ ping and poor skill; and CS isn't the place for that. Still love you, Warowl.
I think I'd like it most for pistols, but more aggressive recoil might make me want to just chance it with the center screen crosshair. Surely it'll be possible to set this up with binds.
I don't even play counterstrike, I literally just watch this channel because War Owl is a funny dude. I have mixed feelings about this, because as a TF2 player, it gives me some small glimmer of hope to know that Valve hasn't completely abandoned their multi-player shooters. at the same time, I am VERY salty that we've been waiting on the promised Heavy update for FIVE M̷̼̄̕ ̴̨̛̰̣̬̗͋Ȍ̶̥̙̈́ ̷̟͔̬̦̦̆́͛͊͊T̷̻̱̃̉ ̶̝̹̮͍͌̈H̵̟̼͈̺̃̈́ͅ ̶̥͚̣͎̄̌̌̈́͜E̴̟̟̺̼͛̄͂͜ ̵̣̳̬͙͆̒͒R̴͍̮̩̓ ̸͓̲̺͉̟́̊ ̸̮̑̅̀͘̕F̵̧̛̰̦̊̃͒ ̴̡̯͐̏͗Ų̶̝́̊ ̵͙͉͐́͂̋C̶̙͑̉̈̒ ̴̝͠K̶̭̯̤̇ ̶̨̠͔̥̓̔Ĩ̶̭͛͋̃̕ ̸̘̝͍̅̀̌̀ ̫N̷͗̑͝ ͚̻̝ ̷̦̅̅̈́G̷̮̾̈́̒ ̷̨̣̪͊̓̊͜ ̸̛͓̻̍Y̵̗̊̽͋̽͌ ̴̮̰̳̻̰̈́̕Ĕ̷̖̻̝̑̋̚ ̴̛̪͙͈̽͠A̵͇̿͐̌͋̕ ̷̝̙̭̾R̶̰̭͌̑͗ ̸̡̤̔̂S̵̗͉̾̐̀!!! Maybe someday we'll get a source 2 port of TF2. Maybe someday in the 2050s, or 2040s if they really put a rush on it. *huffs copium* Yeah.... Someday.
they only complaint that i have is that the maps looks too bright, as this is only a limited time beta i hope they will tune down the brightness to some degree as it will more closely resemble real life lighting and will be easier on the eyes
The bright lighting of the maps is actually the change I like the best (coupled with the de-cluttering of the maps, I don't get why so many devs think that by putting garbage everywhere in their maps they make them more aesthetically appealing).
Profit isn't tied to releasing a game every two years like with the other two big FPS franchises, so they take their time, even if it's far too long for their own good.
A couple of things: First, Valve absolutely owes you. Second, I played CSGO for like a week, half a decade ago. your opinion of CS2 is crucial to whether or not I play it. Don't underestimate the power of a loyal fanbase.
I tried donating to you from my PC before, but that requires me to add a credit/debit cars to my account for some reason. Works without one from Android tho, so here you go. Keep up the good videos, I really enjoy watching them! :)
One thing I havent seen anyone else mention yet, is the sound radius indicator on the mini map now. Similar to Valorant, and I think its a nice little UI buff for audio-visual clarity
I'm really going to miss you when Valorant 2 comes out. You're the most wholesome CS Content Creator out there and your departure would be a major detriment to the game and the community. Looking forward to more pre-release content on CS2 but I hope you don't get too burned out on it.
I played cs2 for a few hours and went back to csgo. The movement felt off somehow, and my performance got worse the more I played it. I think everything you said in this video was perfectly summed up.
I played CS:GO from 2015 - 2018. When I went back on playing CS on 2021, It felt like the sensations are not the same, so I uninstalled it. Later, I found out about Valorant. Played it for about 6 months. At first, I thought it was a good replacement for CS. But then, I felt out of love. CS is still in my heart. So, I uninstalled it. Then this video of WarOwl just popped up on my youtube home, I just got excited! Finally, CS will be reborn!!! PS. I am a WarOwl subscriber and watcher since 2015
The comment about the movement is what has me most worried. The only thing that keeps me coming back to cs is the movement tech. If that doesn't feel as good as before idk whether I'll continue playing the game.
Valorant does have 128 tick update rate. When you mentioned it originally in your valorant video, there was a bug where the update rate would go down when you had more than 128fps, but it has been fixed for a long time.
For the "CSGO creators not getting access" thing, I do agree with you as well as other creators but then I also saw youtubers whining that they didn't get access just to put a 30 second gambling ad right after. Really makes you wonder why Valve wouldn't want these guys to be the face of their shiny new game huh.
no way! idk how my kid brain processes it, but when i tried getting back into cs a few years ago i remarked about how "cluttered" it was? like i didnt know what was going on. but looking at it now i appreciate the sort of bright increased exposure of the environment. it makes the players stand out also "i actualy like counter strike" thats your best joke yet /s
I am actually someone who watches you for a long time, and never really played cs go. Used to play warface, and now I play valorant for the last 6 months so yeah... waiting for cs go 2 to start
1:48 "It's like yelling at an underperforming teammate. You're not gonna make him play better, you're only gonna make him not want to talk to you." I really wish my parents had realized that when I was little.
I play cs since 1.5 and I am not sick of dust 2 .. .It's my favorite map and I never get tired of it. I am the 64tick matchmaking dust 2 only warrior - endboss. When they removed watching mid from Tspawn with the AWP I was punching the monitor..VALVE! Bring back those early round kills!
"1hp, 1v3, bomb at b" Eminem has been real quiet since this dropped
quite what?
@@unclesam8862 quite flabbergasted
lmao hahaha 😂😂
@@unclesam8862 I think he meant to write "quiet"
I think he should've stuck with the rhyme scheme lol.
"I'm a T, 1hp, 1v3, bomb in B, and I'm in CT"
WarOwl knows the community so well he had to tell everyone to not scream at valve when things dont go their way
I think that’s most gaming communities, sadly.
With Valve having billions of dollars there is no excuse to give anything less than a technical and competitive masterpiece. Anyone who defends major corporations like Valve, EA, or Activision, etc. is an idiot.
Everyone absolutely should criticize these rich companies that fail to deliver. We are paying for their vacation homes and cars. They can make a great game for fucks sake
At least the CS community isn't as awful as the Dota community
@@rusi6219 "And other funny jokes you can tell your friends"
@@mastershooter64 big of you to assume that CS players have friends
Only having dust 2 in this is like some strange form of psychological torture
İts not that bad man
Wdym, it's the best map
@@IAm-zo1bo Mirage is 10 times better tho.
@@fitmotheyap i can wholehartetly tell you that playing hours of only dust 2 scrimmage will make you go insane.
Its only psychological torture if you have bad preaim.
just getting back into cs and warowl is always the first person i go to
man i fully forgot that you used to play so much csgo back in the day
real respect real
yo?
@@case3177 ???
flamingo csgo videos real?
we need the cs highlights
7:05 best part of the vid for me. What separates Warowl from the tipical entertainer/content creator is his character and honesty. Thx keep it up! :)
I think the crosshair following the spray pattern is going to be fantastic to players who are still learning spray patterns and how to follow them, much easier to see them on action than remember the path
not only that but i never liked how you aim was not you actual aim for a game design perspective i always hated that the shoot is not following the crosshair, i understand the mechanic but for me it was bad, as a player i put the crosshair on the enemy and i expect it to be the correct AIM, if the shoot is not going there then why the crosshari is there? in quake i just aim and shoot, this makes much more sense, now i can say this is good game design, for me before it was annoying.
It has lowered the skill gap quite a bit
@@Moco26 Lowered it for who, the first three ranks? Even mid ranks nowadays know spray patterns by heart.
It definitely makes the game more accessible which is a good thing
@@Moco26 Quite a bit? I can't see anyone who wants to play seriously keeping this on. I find people turn off dynamic crosshairs pretty soon once they have a grasp on the movement mechanics, I suspect this will be the same
never ask a man:
His height
His size
The amount of money in his bank
Whether he got the cs2 beta code or not
its not a code...
Why would you have to ask height or size? You blind?
@@thishandleistaken1011 not that size :)
@@thishandleistaken1011 Texting through a phone?
@@monke6966 oh we talking wieners
My biggest issue with the smoke changes were how shooting through them would create small vision holes, but hearing you say it isn't as pronounced as you thought is really making me excited to try it myself!
at most itll allow you to confirm if Exactly where ur shooting has an enemy which can be strong too just not that OP
it is only really effective when shooting through the corners of it, which I actually really like.
@@TheWarOwl Then it is fine for me. But in the video they made it looked weird, a smoke disappearing and then coming back after you stopped shooting. And then the scene where the HE killed half the smoke but then after two seconds the smoke came back somehow, that is unreal.
@@manuelgogeissl I think shooting through the smoke is more pronounced the farther away from the smoke you are from it or for the victims, likely to discourage people from spamming smokes as much.
The HE is definitely a counter to smokes now. You shouldn't be expecting realism to CSGO, but it is realistic: The smoke is consistently replenished from the grenade until it runs out of fuel. So, when someone throws a grenade, it clears the air and that stays clear until the smoke grenade is able to replenish it. That is also the reason why smoke grenades work with a short delay after landing: They don't canonically spawn a puff of smoke, they release it from within themselves instead, and that takes some time.
From trailer I thought that the gap bullets will create would be too big but I got beta and tested it and it really isnt that big of a change, it basically makes spraying into smoke beneficial for your opponents because you are exposing your position first
The crosshair thing is literally a dream come true. Even on weapons that I know the recoil (somehow), it would be great because sometimes I just can't see the bullets and I forget the part of the pattern i'm on.
The crosshair effect has always been in CSGO but you can only use it with cheats on
yeah that's somebody who I as a casual player will utilize.
Cross hair following the spread is actually nothing but similar to games where you can aim down sight like pubg . It actually allows you to not memorize patterns for each gun and just keep it on target while spraying . This helps for long distance sprays
CSGO aim down sight/scope shoot sideway or up during spraying (lol). Like spraying SSG 553 the bullet always go 45degree to the NE of the scope, imagine that.
Its more beneficial for new - intermediate players imo because they can use the crosshair but once you know the pattern the bullet tracers do a good enough job of providing feedback without cluttering your target with a crosshair. Great for adapting to sprays, bad for aiming them
would it make sense to have a keybind to switch between the crosshair modes?
@@TheClanFollows is bullet tracer broken in CSGO? for example it is visible in Negev but completely zero on Bison. I can see them on SSG 553 while on scope but when tracer hit it gave no hit (squirt) effect.
just made the game super dumb now...
so glad you got into the beta man, love you warowl :)
No homo
@@carljohnsonGSF That’ll be 40k, pls.
@@idgafur ahahaha I get it cam thomas
gay
@@MrFriendlyCsgoContent thats not very mrfriendlycsgocontent of you
The reason why the game FEELS smoother even when you have lower FPS is because the frametimes in CS2 are way more stable compared to CS:GO. From the multiple performance tests i've seen, no matter how much FPS you're getting, the frametime graph looks so smooth that it almost makes you think Vsync is on.
I been telling this to people since CS2 got announced. The lower fps really won’t matter because 90% of the reason why you needed so much fps in cs comapred to other games was because of the god awful frame times at lower fps and even higher fps it’s so inconsistent.
Plus if this gets vulkan support I’m certain the fps will be similar to csgo only a bit lower
@@jamrah8713 il already has vulkan, but i'm not sure if it's native or dxvk, to use it type -vulkan in launch parameters
@@VanitasFR Dang it vulkan?
People underestimate just how important frametimes are and how much of a difference they make. The Steam Deck's 40hz mode has insanely good frametimes that it makes the experience feel smoother than it should
I don't know man. I've been getting FPS drops and screen tearing in CS2, but not CSGO.
5:38 I know the crosshair following the recoil is icky to you and some others, but I think that's gonna be a very VERY good opportunity for newer players to get in, because one of the things that throws people off is the shooting. The crosshair following recoil makes that much more streamlined, as I find it falls in line with some of the more "standard" military styled shooters like Battlefield or COD, where you want to adjust your crosshair (red dot, acog) so you hit those shots.
I'm an actual noob in CS but this is quite useful for when I get back to it.
That is what many gamers (that are better than average) need to understand. You need the big casual playerbase because then the devs will care more about the game. The top 20% and then the top 50% will adapt - will make whatever work.
I think some "better than average" players are just scared that "below average players" will become more difficult - well... That sounds like a skill issue and go practice more.
The thing that made it look really weird is that the big crosshair was moving and the small one was static. It should be the other way round.
The thing that really gets me about the people wanting this removed is the fact that there is pretty much no downside to it.
- It improves the new player experience
- It makes changes to spray patterns (though unlikely,) easier to adapt to
- It visualizes critical information
- It can be toggled off
- It makes RCS cheats redundant, because the information is already available to the player
looks like cheating to me. literally decades of training just... pointless now. whatever, the game was already ruined when they turned long range AK fights into an RNG fight.
The visibility is an extreme improvement. I have eye issues and i have a really hard time seeing small color changes such as black to very dark gray and it gives me eye strain. This looks extremely good for someone like me that is unable to see T-heads in dark spots
11+ years and how many video series later- our man still doesn’t have a closer and it’s the best one on RUclips
I really liked the 'follow recoil' crosshair setting. It felt satisfying to shoot and see it bounce around the recoil pattern. I also felt like it was easier to control my sprays once you get used to the tracking. I actually like this setting a whole lot like better than the smokes update. Give it a fair shake - Play an entire match with it on. I guarantee you will miss it when you turn it off afterwards. There is something really satisfying about the bounce for real don't sleep on it!
Yes that looked huge to me watching this video. The sheer idea that counterstrike now actually shoots where the crosshair is aimed is mind blowing to me. Spray patterns will be so much easier to follow now
That has been in Csgo for years, I forget what the console command is but there is a console command that makes your crosshair move with recoil the exact same way
It takes away the competitiveness of the game. Counter strike was never meant to and never should be about the recoil following the crosshair. It is a mechanic the player must learn to get good at the game. If a new player isn’t willing to learn then idk what to say.
@@S3rkist It's barely a thing and most players had to practise it against a wall to actually know the spray pattern, either that or just look it up. It was pointless and more just practise with being able to follow it because variance still increases as you continue your spray. The practise aspect, which is the important one, still remains.
Edit: Also as skill level increases needing the visual indicator to adjust your spray leaves you behind people who actually know the spray pattern.
The issue is it lowers the skill ceiling of spraying. I'm all for having this be available for training purposes (like you can do in CSGO) but in actual matches it cheapens the shooting to me
The process of blood getting dried should be a little more slower, which will give the information to the opponent or teammate, that someone was here, long gone, still here, or might be close.
That will build curiosity in players during matches and we will surely see some players using that info (how much the blood has dried) in a great way.
Yeah... I will just keep my clear decals bind so I won't notice anyways
ragdolls and killfeed already suficed for checking from where and when teammate died, but this could be neat foe the dangerzone mode
Wouldn't your teammate who shot the guy and caused the blood splatter just give you that information.
@@busteraycan what about on opponent side?
Your team shot them so you should already know this
Thank you so much war owl for your dedication over the years to us and our beloved game. Your videos are always top notch, covering the what we want to know while skipping all the bs and clickbait. Thank you.
"I think I might be in an abusive relationship with a video game" - Every TF2 player
It's nice and it feels good that I'm not a streamer nor famous person yet still have access to CS2. It warms my little heart.
Happy for you bro
I would genuinely like to see MrOwl play a full match with the new crosshair setting
"COUNTER STRIKE, BUT THE CROSSHAIR IS FUQKED"
okay now idk about everyone else but for the last month or so, i’ve been getting zero bullet tracers with the negev. the bullets are entirely invisible. now cs2 may fix this for me but additionally laying down bullet hell pipe at long range with the negev and the new crosshair just feels like something that’ll fix a lot of my issues. being able to turn it on or off with a keybind or even set it to enable itself upon using specific weapons would be great i feel like
@@Blodwynnn as a boomer, it just aint right son
@@Blodwynnn LOL maybe get good and use real weapons
@@mrhulloxog834 fuck off lol. i'm disabled, i'm not built like other people, i just have fun in deathmatch and the other minigames and wouldn't you know it, deathmatch will drop negevs as bonus point weapons and gun game is self explanatory. why go out of your way to be a judgemental asshole
Wait the crosshair follows the spray? THAT'S BRILLIANT I LOVE IT! Not only does this help casuals and new players learn sprays it's a great accessibility feature.
Fun fact: That crosshair option was already in CSGO, but cheat protected.
@@BibleClinger It baffles me why it was cheat protected when this feature could've really helped me learn the game and not quit like I did. Seriously this is the kind of feature that will really help the onboarding process for new players, especially since we're about to get a lot of Valorant players trying the new game
@@BibleClinger what do you mean "cheat protected"? If you need a mod or cheat to make it work, I don't think it count as available
@@deco90014 sv_cheats 1. You can enable it if you are the server admin.
@@deco90014 It's an existing console command in CSGO, but it requires you to set sv_cheats to 1 in the console first. Only the host can do that. That is what is meant by "cheat protected." Another example of a cheat protected console command is "noclip" which lets you fly around with no friction and no collision. It also requires you to first type in sv_cheats 1. These type of commands are meant for use in private servers for testing, debugging, or other purposes (maybe to film footage of the game that you can't otherwise obtain, etc. etc..). They can be used to cheat in normal matches, which is why they are disabled by default. Also, when you have sv_cheats set to 1, you can't unlock achievements on that server during that time.
I'm glad you got into the beta, and I'm REALLY glad that it's leaving you feeling optimistic! Looking forward to the next few months, getting into the beta myself, and trying things out!
1:48 This is actually so untrue. Under-performers are already probably not comming, and will not just randomly start playing well unless you give them a reason to. For literally 8 years now when I’ve asked a bottom frag how they made it so far in life without hands, they don’t finish at the bottom 😂 Something awakens inside of you when people call you out, it’s a necessary evil.
Man, i fell in love with CS again thanks to your CS:GO videos and am following your CS content religiously. (Notifications are turned on only on your channel 😜)
I hope to learn everything about CS2 from you, just like in the old days.
Thanks for beeing a teacher for all generations, including us, grownup kids with kids and families of their own, that stil love video games, and making us better players and teammates.
Keep up your awesome work.
I’m so pumped that valve is making games again. Even if it’s source 2 and it’s still counter strike, the amount of hand made items and hard work they’ve dedicated to it. Hyped
They started working on this right after Half Life Alyx shipped so they've pretty much been working on games for 6 years which is great to see. I remember Gabe saying a few years back they were working on 3 new games internally so this must have been one of them
@@ADreamingTraveler Exciting to see what the last one is. Unless they mean that Steam Deck tech demo thing, that'd be sad.
People complain too much. Valve isn’t going to toss out new games every year just to rake in cash - they’re only going to release a game (or update) if it’s actually significantly impactful and worthwhile, rather that regurgitating the same old designs under a new name.
Like a certain recognizable individual once said: “professionals have standards”
@@joao34386Aren't they "regurgitating the same old designs under a new name"? All I see is CSGO but under the name "CS2" with slightly better graphics and animations. I get it, you like it, you love it and I respect that, but denying this is basically the same thing while talking about how other companies "regurgitate the same old designs under a new name" is just too much. This is exactly what Overwatch 2 did. Slap a "2"in the end and expect new people to come. This is more of a CSGO: Remastered or remake. Very mediocre for a "CS2" in my humble opinion.
@@ironpamf agreed. I wish they would've have just made a new CS game from the ground up, or better yet?, Left 4 Dead 3 or Half-Life 3.
Personally I'm glad they added a crosshair follows the recoil option. As a fairly casual player (by CS standards) who plays a lot of different games, including shooters, it was maddening to have to 'guess' where my bullets were going because the crosshair was functionally useless after the first shot.
They should just have the option to turn it off or on . I wanna try both . I like memorizing spray patterns it's more of a challenge and feels good to drag your spray from one person to the next relying on muscle memory
@@fullmetalsasquach8229 They do have the option :)
@@fullmetalsasquach8229 lmao u really thought they just replaced the crosshair system that worked for years?
@@Sieztt wow I didn't know you were a mind reader , Im hard pressed to find where in my comment I insinuated that . Nice try there big shoots
@@fullmetalsasquach8229 "They should have the option" when they do have the option insinuates you believe that is a possibility yeah. Guys still a dick tho.
Maybe the UI can be more customizable like a drag and drop where you can arrange it however you like
I really like this idea. If the anticheat won't allow third party HUDs, we should at least be able to customize the default one to personal preference.
make the same as the crosshair menu ingame now.
So you can change everything with console commands and the ingame menu
yess, I like most changes they did (from what I saw so far, I dont have access to beta) but I prefeer the older ingame UI, no special reason, my brain is just used to it by now, so I hope there is an option in settings to go back to the current one
but yeah, they can change the main menus all they want
Was thinking this myself while he was talking about it. Like - why isn't it modular, let me put them near the crosshair (Or even mini versions so I never have to leave the center)
Hell, even turn the crosshair into a lightweight radar so I never look away again.
That is actually how all mobile fps games do it. Partially because the screen is the controller and the control preferences vary, but still
hehe nice to see you again, I quit CS like 5 years ago but I am seriously considering starting again! glad you are doing great on YT :)
its nice to hear that player visibility improved. My first impressions from the comparison screenshots were that visibility in general decreased because of the lower contrast but it makes sense that this actually boosts player visibility, the thing we care about.
Contrast can be a bit confusing as a term in a case like this. Since contrast is used as the amount of difference between 2 things, like a black cube in front of a white wall has a high contrast. The closer together that we move the colors the less contrast they will have. However, in a 3D world we have lighting to consider too. Instead of changing the colors of the cubes, we could change the lighting in the scene. If the lights are turned all the way down, the whole scene is black and there is again no contrast between the objects.
With cs2, they lifted the shadows which brings out more of the actually contrasting colors. You could think of it more like a higher dynamic range. A picture with a low dynamic range can have very high contrast as in there will be very dark areas and very light areas but the detail will be lost. As opposed to a picture with high dynamic range which can capture more detail in those dark and light areas.
Literally just came on RUclips to see if you have uploaded a new video and while rewatching the one from yesterday, you delivered. Thanks, WarOwl!!
Seeing you making these videos again make me nostalgic. I used to watch your videos back when you did solo queue to global elite 8 years ago. I'm glad to see you're still doing well
Same for me 😊
You summarized the frustration (and in my case the jealousy too) that a lot of csgo content creators feel about who gets access to the beta really well. Looking forward to more Warowl videos!
20k sub andy xd
I'm actually super excited to see what map creators can now do with new improved tools that source 2 brings. I think maps are going to be so much better in the future!
Stumbled upon this on my recommendation tab after years of not watching and boy did I miss that non-existent closer at the end of the video, CS2 looks great!
Loved you for almost a decade Warowl! Glad you’re in the beta, you definitely deserve it.
Thank you for everything that you do WarOwl!
Their explanation of "sub-tick updates" is basically what most big multiplayer games have. The server still runs on a set tick rate, you simply can't be processing inputs every .0001ms for every player and expect it to sync up. On top of that what I suspect they're doing is calculating the precise moment the player hit their input by including the processing/input delay with each packet sent to the server. The server then verifies the shot on the next tick, but rolls back the server based on the delay information that was included in the input, to more accurately calculate player positions/states at the exact point of the input.
The game still runs on ticks, it's just that the server verification end of things is done more accurately, if the server is 64 tick, it will be better than CSGO, but it's still only performing those checks 64 times a second, which can result in sloppy/sluggish control on the player end of things. It's just speculation but I believe this is why the tests feel weird, they're likely testing on a lower tickrate to see the lowest they can go with their subtick system while still feeling smooth. Maybe an attempt to make running official servers cheaper?
I think you can test the server delay by shooting near a smoke and seeing how long it takes for the lighting on the smoke to react to your shot. Since the smoke is server side, your client needs to get that information from the server and it's clearly delayed in some clips.
The tribes music at the start legit took me on such a nostalgia trip I had to re-watch the intro
Dude that clutch at the beginning!!!!! So good!!!
its so wholesome to see how far counter strike and its editions have come and evolved, the dust that we all used to love has now really turned itself into a piece of fine crafted art.
5:38 ngl I love this as an option sure it looks wonky but it is some what really helpful for maybe new players ? Or just some people who want a different kind of aiming I like this one, really hope Valve dont delete it
I like it to practice recoil patterns and to fully understand your weapon
@@tsidkenuo yeeeee
It's always been in CSGO. Just requires cheats to be enabled.
@@TunaIRL ohh
I really love the smokes. This is the best thing about it so far imho. Not sure how I like the everything is bright and shiny look. I'm okay with shadows usually. What I feel is annoying is the tracers added to the sniper rifles. That just feels wrong. Not sure if I like the card symbol in the bottom middle. It is kind of a cool idea but I think it can also be distracting. Oh, and I really liked the new end game screen. Highlighting the Steam avatars and stuff is really nice. Big improvement, also with the drops on the right side and no need to switch between stats and the rest anymore.
I have less than 60 hours on CSGO. I've been a fan of your channel for years because you are so charismatic, funny and good at making videos.
... But i think I'm gonna be playing this videogame!
Hoooooly its probably been several years since I've seen your vids in my feed. I was considering watching something to learn more about CS2, man I used to watch your content all the time. LETS GO!
The new crosshair following the spray option is insane, I love it!
Well this wasn't the first video about cs2/ the beta but clearly the best one, thank you warowl for uploading quality content
i love the blood decals but i wish the grenades did more visual damage
Was shocked when I saw how brutal it is, even forgot that there's blood splatters in csgo because I've got clear decal bind to my movement and shooting keys.
Eventhough it might help with spotting enemies. I feel like the lack of contrast makes a lot of scenes (especially in their showcase) look worse than the originals.
Still I am glad that they some active shadow casts...
then again I never played CSGO and probably won't because it's just not my kind of game. Hope yall enjoy your update
I came back to his channel just to hear his input. Great video WarOwl
WarOwl has words? What a world we live in.
I can't wait. The crosshair option showing your recoil is gonna be great for beginners who think they're shooting the opponent but don't understand the mechanics. It'll let beginners get better faster and honestly I'm for it.
I love the lighting and visibility changes. I'm sure there will be some folks who complain that CS is "becoming a kiddy arcade shooter like valorant" or something, but it looks great.
people have been boosting colour saturation in CSGO, because the brightness was too dim.
@@sety5591 For the longest time I had no idea you could do that. I just squinted to see people on dust 2 lmao
I've been following your content for more than a decade now and damn Counter-Strike 2 and you still have no closer
I haven't played Counterstrike in half a decade; and I likely won't again outside of a group of friends going "Let's do something nostalgic" and re-installing Condition Zero. Nothing wrong wit the game, I just have consistently 150+ ping and poor skill; and CS isn't the place for that.
Still love you, Warowl.
I think I talk for everyone when I say you should do a de_amigo stream when Valve releases the tools to make maps
I really wish that they did tf3 cause they would be a world wide phenomenon
This really does look like the CS we all wanted. Let's hope it lives up to the hype.
This is the review I have been waiting for! Thanks brother :-)
After seeing the tweets, hearing the self reflection bit in this video. Good job man way to go!
I actually love that crosshair change so much. Recoil is the thing I hate the most in val/cs
I think I'd like it most for pistols, but more aggressive recoil might make me want to just chance it with the center screen crosshair. Surely it'll be possible to set this up with binds.
I don't even play counterstrike, I literally just watch this channel because War Owl is a funny dude.
I have mixed feelings about this, because as a TF2 player, it gives me some small glimmer of hope to know that Valve hasn't completely abandoned their multi-player shooters. at the same time, I am VERY salty that we've been waiting on the promised Heavy update for FIVE M̷̼̄̕ ̴̨̛̰̣̬̗͋Ȍ̶̥̙̈́ ̷̟͔̬̦̦̆́͛͊͊T̷̻̱̃̉ ̶̝̹̮͍͌̈H̵̟̼͈̺̃̈́ͅ ̶̥͚̣͎̄̌̌̈́͜E̴̟̟̺̼͛̄͂͜ ̵̣̳̬͙͆̒͒R̴͍̮̩̓ ̸͓̲̺͉̟́̊ ̸̮̑̅̀͘̕F̵̧̛̰̦̊̃͒ ̴̡̯͐̏͗Ų̶̝́̊ ̵͙͉͐́͂̋C̶̙͑̉̈̒ ̴̝͠K̶̭̯̤̇ ̶̨̠͔̥̓̔Ĩ̶̭͛͋̃̕ ̸̘̝͍̅̀̌̀ ̫N̷͗̑͝ ͚̻̝ ̷̦̅̅̈́G̷̮̾̈́̒ ̷̨̣̪͊̓̊͜ ̸̛͓̻̍Y̵̗̊̽͋̽͌ ̴̮̰̳̻̰̈́̕Ĕ̷̖̻̝̑̋̚ ̴̛̪͙͈̽͠A̵͇̿͐̌͋̕ ̷̝̙̭̾R̶̰̭͌̑͗ ̸̡̤̔̂S̵̗͉̾̐̀!!!
Maybe someday we'll get a source 2 port of TF2. Maybe someday in the 2050s, or 2040s if they really put a rush on it.
*huffs copium*
Yeah.... Someday.
Jabol ah ah
Valve is the medic and we are heavy
they only complaint that i have is that the maps looks too bright, as this is only a limited time beta i hope they will tune down the brightness to some degree as it will more closely resemble real life lighting and will be easier on the eyes
Flashbanged by the floor’s reflections of the sun
The bright lighting of the maps is actually the change I like the best (coupled with the de-cluttering of the maps, I don't get why so many devs think that by putting garbage everywhere in their maps they make them more aesthetically appealing).
I havent played cs in a long time but i still watch ur videos!
im so impressed by the ability of making the graphics way better while still having that csgo look and good brightness and visibility
The more I see Valve games the more i'm convinced that Valve is the only video game studio that actually knows how to make games
There are still plenty
Profit isn't tied to releasing a game every two years like with the other two big FPS franchises, so they take their time, even if it's far too long for their own good.
You must be 10 lol
rockstar games
A couple of things: First, Valve absolutely owes you. Second, I played CSGO for like a week, half a decade ago. your opinion of CS2 is crucial to whether or not I play it. Don't underestimate the power of a loyal fanbase.
I tried donating to you from my PC before, but that requires me to add a credit/debit cars to my account for some reason. Works without one from Android tho, so here you go. Keep up the good videos, I really enjoy watching them! :)
One thing I havent seen anyone else mention yet, is the sound radius indicator on the mini map now. Similar to Valorant, and I think its a nice little UI buff for audio-visual clarity
Therapist: "Halal warowl doesn't exist, he can't hurt you."
Halal Warowl: 0:00
6:00 i'm never clearing decals in cs2 that blood is so satisfying to look at
I'm really going to miss you when Valorant 2 comes out. You're the most wholesome CS Content Creator out there and your departure would be a major detriment to the game and the community.
Looking forward to more pre-release content on CS2 but I hope you don't get too burned out on it.
Loved the Tribes OST on the background xD
I played cs2 for a few hours and went back to csgo. The movement felt off somehow, and my performance got worse the more I played it. I think everything you said in this video was perfectly summed up.
The "Ten more years of content" sounded like "A HUNDRED EPISODES MORTY" in my head
actually I love the crosshair matching the spray. it makes controlling spray much more easier like in RS6.
Who the fuck plays CS with a controller? Hopefully not ranked.
I never knew... I would miss someone's voiceovers xD my gawd, its been a while, glad to be back
this is why i followed you... :D cant wait to play this. I really hope that the tickrate really is 128 when this goes live
I played CS:GO from 2015 - 2018. When I went back on playing CS on 2021, It felt like the sensations are not the same, so I uninstalled it. Later, I found out about Valorant. Played it for about 6 months. At first, I thought it was a good replacement for CS. But then, I felt out of love. CS is still in my heart. So, I uninstalled it. Then this video of WarOwl just popped up on my youtube home, I just got excited! Finally, CS will be reborn!!!
PS. I am a WarOwl subscriber and watcher since 2015
The comment about the movement is what has me most worried. The only thing that keeps me coming back to cs is the movement tech. If that doesn't feel as good as before idk whether I'll continue playing the game.
Valorant does have 128 tick update rate. When you mentioned it originally in your valorant video, there was a bug where the update rate would go down when you had more than 128fps, but it has been fixed for a long time.
i am happy you got the bet, it feels like i got it. Ty for sharing it with us
That headshot with 1 bullet left at 1:03 was just soo damn satisfying
For the "CSGO creators not getting access" thing, I do agree with you as well as other creators but then I also saw youtubers whining that they didn't get access just to put a 30 second gambling ad right after. Really makes you wonder why Valve wouldn't want these guys to be the face of their shiny new game huh.
I like how WarOwl's closure is him saying "I still have no closure"
no way! idk how my kid brain processes it, but when i tried getting back into cs a few years ago i remarked about how "cluttered" it was? like i didnt know what was going on. but looking at it now i appreciate the sort of bright increased exposure of the environment. it makes the players stand out
also "i actualy like counter strike" thats your best joke yet /s
@00:40 this is 🔥🔥 can’t wait for the album
I am actually someone who watches you for a long time, and never really played cs go. Used to play warface, and now I play valorant for the last 6 months so yeah... waiting for cs go 2 to start
Was I the only won that screamed "LET"S GO!" when he cluched that round 1v5, like I was watching the superbowl
I really can't wait for this if only to finally get my hands on the Source 2 Hammer Editor in a game I can actually play.
Oh my god I love the crosshair moving with the spray
Dude, you are the best CS content creator, period.
1:48 "It's like yelling at an underperforming teammate. You're not gonna make him play better, you're only gonna make him not want to talk to you."
I really wish my parents had realized that when I was little.
Nice Tribes 2 music there +1 gave me severe nostalgia
One of these days you need to jump scare people with an actual closer
When you said less frames my hearts started pounding and now i think my laptop might not be able to handle that
I play cs since 1.5 and I am not sick of dust 2 .. .It's my favorite map and I never get tired of it. I am the 64tick matchmaking dust 2 only warrior - endboss.
When they removed watching mid from Tspawn with the AWP I was punching the monitor..VALVE! Bring back those early round kills!
2:58 - "I get enough dark, depressing and gritty in my real life." Hits home hard rn, honestly made my day.
nice clutch, haven't looked at this channel since 2014 lol
The former engineer-"I'm right about this" hahaha