considering all the tropical systems the NC coast has gone thru the last 5 years, and all the heavy flooding...I'm surprised a bridge hasnt settled like this before.
I had the pleasure of working with Jay and Chris during my tenure at CLNA between 2007-2011. During that span, they were a father/son crew on the 119. You couldn't have asked for much better employees, or men. Glad to see they're still working together in some capacity.
@Levi Langershank Why was your dog running around loose? If you’re that concerned, the dog should have been in a fenced-in area or on a leash. For that matter, how do you know the train crew was even aware they ran over your dog?
In the UK we inspect rail bridges after heavy rain. They used to send the first train over slowly to test the bridges, but then one fell in to the raging torrent and a dozen people died. Then we realised this was a bad idea... See Glanrhyd Bridge collapse
@@lawrence18uk But the UK is a country where human safety normally comes first. Not money. Look at many car recalls. They used the concept of. We will do a recall when cost of litigation exceeds cost of recall.
I disagree that there was piss poor insection. There had clearly been no inspection for some considerable time. Piles like those don't rot away quickly.
I was going to do the wise guy comment, "Just put a few shims under it." Then they did! Nice stereo audio, I can hear the ducks from right to left starting @ 7:20.
Pretty nice video...of a not often seen situation. I'm glad they didn't show the engineer changing his pants...cause you know he had to after he went over the dip! Glad nothing derailed, that would have been a whole 'nother story..... Thanks for posting this, glad there's a happy ending (Soorta) 🙂😉
A bunch of guys and at least one girl some blocks of woods and a good cup full of common sense and it's job done. Where did the blocks come from? Now, if this had happened in my country, the good old UK, hell we'd have had all the emergency services and the Health & Safety Executive out in force, a working and working sub committee and God knows who else and the track would have been closed indefinitely. I missed the Rivers Authority and Conservation England and no doubt a few more I've forgotten. All of that apart I would have loved sitting on the bank and doing a spot of fishing, as long as those big lizard things with bloody big teeth aren't present! Nice video as well.
Omg, goodness gracious, that was frighting, 😦😨😮💯😱😵 I'm so glad they got that car off that bridge like they did, or they coulda lost it, WOW, nice job boys ✌️👍
Nice video but not sure how many safety rules were broke. People climbing under and on the bridge when it could collapse at any moment. Even on the car as it was being moved. It worked but could have been a disaster. Track looks like it needs a lot of work. I am sure if the TSB sees this they will have a long talk with this railroad.
Not being there I do not have all the facts some of the things I seen on the video from ony watching it once here's what I see. No three step several times, Attempting to release the hand brake from the ground, Mounted the car by was of the Coupler Operating Lever instead of the Side Ladder then traverse around to the end of the car, Poor radio procedures with the engineer and No Job Briefing observed to give the engineer a complete understanding (this may have been done off video) if the video was edited. Noone with PPE / HVA. In everything we do in railroading there are always risk as for the men in the water someone has to do some type of visual inspection. After all being said everything went well and not further damage or waterway contamination to deal with . Good Job Gentlemen.
I paused at 1:52... my guess is that they split the train and left the car with its bogies on solid track and made temp repair to move the car or pulled it over the damage... Let's see... Well done 👍!
I like how the armchair engineer lady shouted "oh don't do it". No clue whatsoever, there are active railroad lines where trains lean more than this car did on that broken part of the bridge.
You know they ran the risk of sinking the pilon further along with the bridge deck and the rail, thus making the train even more unstable. Sketchy as hell if you ask me.
The bridge at river interlocking on the northeast corridor is just as bad! I worked for NS for years and AMTRAK was always stuffing more cribbing under it. I asked a forman the one day while getting a switch to go down the Sparrows Point branch and he told me the bridge pillions were rotted away and they just keep adding more cribbing.
Holy smokes, aren't these bridges inspected regularly ? Looks like old wood timbers in the water that are most likely rotten and the weight pushed them into the river bottom. I wouldn't drive my car over that bridge and never a train of thousands of tons.
Exactly! Some things I have little fear of but, a LOT of respect, a la front coil springs on a 1960's Ford Mustang; dealing with a situation like this damaged trestle takes it to a whole different level.
Ok on this one they could of put portable winches around the hopper car , and winch up that track and please cribbing under theTrussel beams, That would of got this car off of the Trussel the river has so often the river bed , they are going to have to replace the pileons under the rails, kool nice job 👍 thanks buddy BigAl California.
You say STOP or GO not ho ho ho or whoa whoa whoa. I saw a man almost get crushed by a bus backing up because he yelled whoa and the bus driver thought he was saying go.
@Ian Dunbar well not that i expect a Trumponian to be impressed by facts but last year the US infrastructure investments reached an all-time low of 2.3 % relative to the U.S. GDP ... to my knowledge last year there was a republican president in power... www.cfr.org/backgrounder/state-us-infrastructure
there's many thousands of miles of rail and thousands of rail bridges across the U.S.... no way to guarantee there soundness at ALL TIMES... however inspections do take place... but even then, neither the man that inspected nor the creations themselves are PERFECT... so there are times that problems show themselves absent an inspection as in this case... also you are correct about lack the of infrastructure attention... seems like the only time we pay close attention to something like this is AFTER we have an issue
@@piercehawke8021 2020.cartersxrd.net/CX2020/2020.05.19.html found pictures of people pondering the problem. I would think the railroads would condemn the bridge on their own. I also found an article quoting a fisherman who says the that bridge was rotten 30 years ago. Seems the railroad has dodged a bullet because they didn't dump a train into the creek which might have killed somebody and would certainly be ridiculously expensive to cleanup. Regardless, it's easy to imagine that laws were the violated every time a train rode the trestle and easy to imagine train engineer and conductor feeling worried for their lives as they did it. m.thewashingtondailynews.com/2020/04/22/train-trestle-buckles-over-runyon-creek/
If it's a short line Railroad, they might be operating on very thin margins and have no ability to justify or even fund replacement of the trestle. The lost revenue likely can't fund a replacement and they even if it was insured it would be depreciated down to Zero by now. Now that it has collapsed, any quick repairs might have to meet modern code but I have no idea what regulatory environment exists in that county. I'd love to know how that plays out
@@JamieMurdock90 Equipment appeared on the site yesterday, so looks like work is about to start-I understand there will also be work on the Pamlico River Trestle which is very nearby on the same line.
@@JamieMurdock90 What you just described spooked me. Here in Arizona; a major RR bridge in the Phx area, it had a partial collapse and, a load of lumber caught fire. Thank God no fatalities/serious injuries but still...........and, said bridge was quickly fixed. ruclips.net/video/hqpd5fCLsRI/видео.html
wow we thought it was bad here for rail maintenance here wow i am happy does not look that way here sure we have derailments here but the track is better looking here
Why do so many American railways look like they haven't been maintained for like a century? As a train driver, I'm certainly happy I don't have to work there.
Because they're inevitably tiny short-line railroads who just need the track to be good enough to haul non-hazardous freight around at 10mph usually. These companies generally have tiny budgets, a handful of customers and an equal handful of employees. Keeping the track maintained to a condition that would satisfy RUclipsrs would require vastly more money than the income they receive from servicing their customers... and besides that, what's the point in keeping a 15 mile long railroad maintained to 50mph standards?
@@RicCarter will you be allowed to to repair it? I can imagine in some areas government would enforce modern ordinances that would condemn the entire trestle. Curious to know if there is off the shelf electronic sensor technology that could monitor The Trestle going forward and predict failure based on increasing vibration and deflection @ weight. My brief work in sensing and machine learning software was geared toward sending alarms before catastrophic failure. I would think pre failure changes always occur, but that has to be continuously measured and analyzed with software to be made visible. The sensors and the math and the wireless transmission is all standard technology, but creating the system that could do that would be expensive. That's why I asked if there was something off the shelf already. Luckily the train wasn't dumped into the water! If you knew what pilings needed work based on their performance you could maintain The Trestle based on actual priority and have confidence that it can handle the load you ask of it.
@@JamieMurdock90 I work for a local County government in Florida and we are trying to get some crossings replaced. CSX has pretty much told us to pound sand. 😁
Yeah, how dull, but as the description says, they had to..."devise a plan". wow soon as I saw it I thought...split the train, pull car slowly back off the weak section.
In Germay this line would be put out of service immediately by the EBA Federal Railway Agency. But I have seen mainlines in the US exsp UP which are worse
This isn't exactly a mainline, except in the sense that it's probably this shortline's ONLY line, haha. There are federal standards for track maintenance with different tiers for 10mph, 25mph, 40mph and so on. Needless to say, 10mph track doesn't have to be maintained to the highest standards.
@@nicholaswhitfield9341 even a short line would be closed with this standards here Germany has app 67 minor training accidents a year the US over 3500 not counted those which were not reported
@@steffenrosmus1864 Because lines like these simply wouldn't exist in Germany. Lightly trafficked branch lines owned by tiny companies with a handful of employees and a number of customers you can count on two hands aren't going to look like a high-speed mainline. The numbers don't work.
@@nicholaswhitfield9341 how do you know those lines would not exist in Germany. Around my hometown there were 3 of them and all in far better shape. I worked for the Federal RR Administration for 35 years and had to supervise those lines.
I don’t know much about trains, but if I was the foreman, I would pull that car with chain, not with another car, just in case the trestle would give out.
In U.S.A. vedo molto spesso che le ferrovie sono in uno stato di manutenzione che è paragonabile ai paesi più poveri dell'Africa, si tratta di una vergogna mondiale che dimostra come la speculazione privata non ha nessuno scrupolo etico.
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Not fer nuthin' but all of the track shown in this clip seems to be lacking in maintenance. Just watching that loco wobbling at low speed is enough to make that obvious to us armchair quarterbacks.
First, the zoom lense compresses the footage, making the wobble appear to be much worse than it actually is. Second, it’s a low-budget shortline. Tracks like this are restricted to low speed operation because of its condition. Even on a well-maintained, high speed mainline, equipment and infrastructure can still fail.
@@Mark-jl6tl ... you said it yourself... it's the condition of the tracks that restricts the speed. I live along a short line and I see rail maintenance on a regular basis, even though the normal speeds probably don't go over 40 mph. BTW, I think the word you are looking for is "distorts", not "compresses" the image. Even with the obvious distortion, the tracks should not appear bumpy, but should have a gradual curve.
@@rupe53 In this case, both adjectives are applicable. But this whole subject opens a can of worms. As I mentioned in a couple of other responses, at what point does it make it economically feasible to rebuild a shortline back to Class A mainline status? IMO, if the shortline operator cannot financially maintain a safe physical plant without government assistance, then they shouldn’t be given operating rights in the first place. I don’t mean to come across as a hard ass, but a track such as the one seen in the vid shouldn’t have to be maintained for passenger speed operating conditions, but it the infrastructure should still be inspected/maintained regularly for safe, slow-speed operations. That said, things still go bump in the night. Even a brand new car can have a premature failure at times.
@@Mark-jl6tl .... yes, inspected on a regular basis. Even simple things have a normal life span. Take wooden utility poles. They last for decades but at some point (say 40 - 50 years) they need spot checks to look for signs of failure. Same goes for bridges on our roads. Speed doesn't always dictate wear. Quite often it's age, regardless of how often it's used.
@@rupe53 Correct. I don’t want to run this particular railroad in to the ground. They may have done everything correctly, according to FRA standards, but something could have still failed prematurely. I am not a bridge(or railroad)expert, but common sense should prevail here. If a structure has been semi-submerged in water for any length of time, there are going to be obvious forces of nature at work here, even more so than just wooden ties laid in ballast on fairly level ground. Any rail line, big or small, should have a regular maintenance program in place to inspect structures such as these to prevent such issues from happening. Again, not to say that this particular operation didn’t have that in place, because as I mentioned, things still fail, be it aging or otherwise. My point is that we, as humans, cannot prevent everything from happening. It’s easy to point the finger of blame, but sometimes issues are simply beyond human control.
Yea, that line had its big derail last year, they're still working on it-happily, that was molten sulfur and NOT some of the other stuff that travels that line
This is what happens when you don’t regularly take care of the infrastructure- keep making profits but don’t reinvest in repairs and protecting what’s already there - typical US economics.
It’s not just economics, it’s also ethics. It’s a low-budget shoreline. Oftentimes, a handful of local shippers lobby to keep a track open, local officials get a grant for the line to get upgraded, then the local shippers bail out anyway, leaving the track to become economically unfeasible to operate, leading to its abandonment. Then local officials get another grant to turn it into a rails-to-trails that few people end up using. Simple answer: Stop government bailouts, on all levels.
A Ferro Cement grade beam at solid resistance in the river bed would help too. Blast out the mud with a 50 K psi water jet. Cheap and easy
Couldn t have worked out better !!!
considering all the tropical systems the NC coast has gone thru the last 5 years, and all the heavy flooding...I'm surprised a bridge hasnt settled like this before.
Professionally done. Nice to see there is still some competence in this world.
Scabbing in a few pieces of cribbing is "professional"????
I had the pleasure of working with Jay and Chris during my tenure at CLNA between 2007-2011. During that span, they were a father/son crew on the 119. You couldn't have asked for much better employees, or men. Glad to see they're still working together in some capacity.
@Levi Langershank that is very sad to hear you lost your dog. Dogs can be like family.
Did your dog die? It didn't actually say that.
@Levi Langershank Why was your dog running around loose? If you’re that concerned, the dog should have been in a fenced-in area or on a leash. For that matter, how do you know the train crew was even aware they ran over your dog?
Love the short lines, never know whats around the next curve, nasty track . Great video , thanks
Thanks. The greatest things get done when folks don't have all the tools and finances.
Next time someone says their piles are giving them trouble, they might work for the railway.
And also gives new meaning to a pain in the caboose................
Seeing this makes me have more respect for TYCO Train set's from the 70s🤣
11:50 in ...YAHHHHAAAAAYYY !!!! G O O D J O B !!!! EXCELLENT !!!!!
Now that's something you don't see everyday. I'm glad every one was safe.
Great video and top of the line workers saving the situation, thanks
well maintained bridge
I'm glad that the Bridge didn't collapse in the water.
not yet but later
That horn is the one of the original MSTS's gp38-2!!
Something like that doesn't happen overnight. It's piss poor inspection and maintenance
It can happen over night if there was a flood, but then inspections should've been done.
In the UK we inspect rail bridges after heavy rain. They used to send the first train over slowly to test the bridges, but then one fell in to the raging torrent and a dozen people died. Then we realised this was a bad idea... See Glanrhyd Bridge collapse
@@lawrence18uk But the UK is a country where human safety normally comes first.
Not money.
Look at many car recalls.
They used the concept of.
We will do a recall when cost of litigation exceeds cost of recall.
I disagree that there was piss poor insection. There had clearly been no inspection for some considerable time. Piles like those don't rot away quickly.
@@IIGrayfoxII This same country where individuals sue corporations thinking that’s their winning lotto ticket.
Koollove nice beautiful train horn nice loud from Indiana Terry ☮️❤️
"Yes, that is a problem. We have our top men working on it. TOP Men!"
Fools! Burecratic fools!!
I was going to do the wise guy comment, "Just put a few shims under it." Then they did! Nice stereo audio, I can hear the ducks from right to left starting @ 7:20.
Go to a big box store and grab some shims. Problem solved.
Yikes! You missed the best part! ...anyway, that bridge needs replaced, NOT patched up!
Pretty nice video...of a not often seen situation. I'm glad they didn't show the engineer changing his pants...cause you know he had to after he went over the dip! Glad nothing derailed, that would have been a whole 'nother story.....
Thanks for posting this, glad there's a happy ending
(Soorta) 🙂😉
A bunch of guys and at least one girl some blocks of woods and a good cup full of common sense and it's job done. Where did the blocks come from? Now, if this had happened in my country, the good old UK, hell we'd have had all the emergency services and the Health & Safety Executive out in force, a working and working sub committee and God knows who else and the track would have been closed indefinitely. I missed the Rivers Authority and Conservation England and no doubt a few more I've forgotten. All of that apart I would have loved sitting on the bank and doing a spot of fishing, as long as those big lizard things with bloody big teeth aren't present! Nice video as well.
Very good video!
Omg, goodness gracious, that was frighting, 😦😨😮💯😱😵 I'm so glad they got that car off that bridge like they did, or they coulda lost it, WOW, nice job boys ✌️👍
Nice video but not sure how many safety rules were broke. People climbing under and on the bridge when it could collapse at any moment. Even on the car as it was being moved. It worked but could have been a disaster. Track looks like it needs a lot of work. I am sure if the TSB sees this they will have a long talk with this railroad.
Not being there I do not have all the facts some of the things I seen on the video from ony watching it once here's what I see. No three step several times, Attempting to release the hand brake from the ground, Mounted the car by was of the Coupler Operating Lever instead of the Side Ladder then traverse around to the end of the car, Poor radio procedures with the engineer and No Job Briefing observed to give the engineer a complete understanding (this may have been done off video) if the video was edited. Noone with PPE / HVA. In everything we do in railroading there are always risk as for the men in the water someone has to do some type of visual inspection. After all being said everything went well and not further damage or waterway contamination to deal with . Good Job Gentlemen.
@@ericerickson7544 Pretty Awesome and detailed summary for "Not being there" thanks! Glad I scrolled all the way to the end.
No Gators to, uh, "help ya", huh? Every day's a question mark. Great job, folks.
I paused at 1:52...
my guess is that they split the train and left the car with its bogies on solid track and made temp repair to move the car or pulled it over the damage...
Let's see...
Well done 👍!
"We'll fix it up REAL gud! Yee-yeet!"
Building Americas new high speed rail for the 21 century..
Out off Service for manny Jear's 😬😳😎
we are a car/highway country... there's no demand for high speed passenger rail here
I like how the armchair engineer lady shouted "oh don't do it". No clue whatsoever, there are active railroad lines where trains lean more than this car did on that broken part of the bridge.
You know they ran the risk of sinking the pilon further along with the bridge deck and the rail, thus making the train even more unstable.
Sketchy as hell if you ask me.
Cool video. Would love to shoot this line the next time I have a trip to Greenville.
We hope it reopens soon
Big deal: we do that all the time on the Ben Franklin Camden, NJ/Philadelphia, Pa
The bridge at river interlocking on the northeast corridor is just as bad! I worked for NS for years and AMTRAK was always stuffing more cribbing under it. I asked a forman the one day while getting a switch to go down the Sparrows Point branch and he told me the bridge pillions were rotted away and they just keep adding more cribbing.
To quote Spock, "fascinating."
Or Emperor Palpatine saying.... DO IT!
Man I wouldn't get under that thing working you don't know when or if that bridge will collapse even more?
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Long-time friends of the family!
thank you for detail video
Holy smokes, aren't these bridges inspected regularly ? Looks like old wood timbers in the water that are most likely rotten and the weight pushed them into the river bottom. I wouldn't drive my car over that bridge and never a train of thousands of tons.
The wooden ones are all from previous trestles long replaced
The railway civil engineers should take care of this problem
I kinda think they did just that ^^^
Love the horn on the engine shown in the video
I bet that was a rough ride across in the engine! Glad everyone was okay though.
At 11:15 There was a bit of a communication problem. Engineer did not have a clear direction.
there is also some editing of the video and communication
close call... way too much excitement for a regular ol' railroad workday
Exactly! Some things I have little fear of but, a LOT of respect, a la front coil springs on a 1960's Ford Mustang; dealing with a situation like this damaged trestle takes it to a whole different level.
Woo, those tracks look in pretty poor condition to me, like the bridge?
Wow I hope they get that train trestle fixed immediately
That's got to be against health and safety regulations, to walk under a broken bridge while the train is on top of it.
Not in good ol’ Carolinas
It's not broken it's just damaged.
Train weight wasnt on that part look at the bogies
@@tylerbonser7686 Broken or damaged, it really doesn't matter.
@@zzirSnipzz1 -Some weight had to be on it. Like with logging, they never step on or over rigging lines, regardless of tension being on it or not.
Ok on this one they could of put portable winches around the hopper car , and winch up that track and please cribbing under theTrussel beams, That would of got this car off of the Trussel the river has so often the river bed , they are going to have to replace the pileons under the rails, kool nice job 👍 thanks buddy BigAl California.
Might just work
I'm not 100% sure I'd be climbing under tracks supported by collapsed pilings. But that's just me.
And that's why you're not on that job.
You should have zoomed out further just in case it came off the tracks...
You say STOP or GO not ho ho ho or whoa whoa whoa. I saw a man almost get crushed by a bus backing up because he yelled whoa and the bus driver thought he was saying go.
The bridge looks sketchy from the start, the tracks look shltty, why is American rail infrastructure so broken?
@Ian Dunbar well not that i expect a Trumponian to be impressed by facts but last year the US infrastructure investments reached an all-time low of 2.3 % relative to the U.S. GDP ... to my knowledge last year there was a republican president in power...
www.cfr.org/backgrounder/state-us-infrastructure
there's many thousands of miles of rail and thousands of rail bridges across the U.S.... no way to guarantee there soundness at ALL TIMES... however inspections do take place... but even then, neither the man that inspected nor the creations themselves are PERFECT... so there are times that problems show themselves absent an inspection as in this case... also you are correct about lack the of infrastructure attention... seems like the only time we pay close attention to something like this is AFTER we have an issue
Anybody know what repair was done to put the bridge back in service?
That is a good question; that whole bridge looked a bit sketchy.
@@piercehawke8021 2020.cartersxrd.net/CX2020/2020.05.19.html found pictures of people pondering the problem. I would think the railroads would condemn the bridge on their own. I also found an article quoting a fisherman who says the that bridge was rotten 30 years ago. Seems the railroad has dodged a bullet because they didn't dump a train into the creek which might have killed somebody and would certainly be ridiculously expensive to cleanup. Regardless, it's easy to imagine that laws were the violated every time a train rode the trestle and easy to imagine train engineer and conductor feeling worried for their lives as they did it. m.thewashingtondailynews.com/2020/04/22/train-trestle-buckles-over-runyon-creek/
If it's a short line Railroad, they might be operating on very thin margins and have no ability to justify or even fund replacement of the trestle. The lost revenue likely can't fund a replacement and they even if it was insured it would be depreciated down to Zero by now. Now that it has collapsed, any quick repairs might have to meet modern code but I have no idea what regulatory environment exists in that county. I'd love to know how that plays out
@@JamieMurdock90 Equipment appeared on the site yesterday, so looks like work is about to start-I understand there will also be work on the Pamlico River Trestle which is very nearby on the same line.
@@JamieMurdock90 What you just described spooked me. Here in Arizona; a major RR bridge in the Phx area, it had a partial collapse and, a load of lumber caught fire. Thank God no fatalities/serious injuries but still...........and, said bridge was quickly fixed.
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wow we thought it was bad here for rail maintenance here wow i am happy does not look that way here sure we have derailments here but the track is better looking here
So why did the pilings give way? Thanks for posting. Good on ya mates.
old steel seems to have compressed, but have not heard official explanation
@@RicCarter, I was thinkin' that the posts just sank deeper in the ground.
The train is too heavy for the bridge😂
@@princesunnyboy, Somehow that explanation leaves me wondering how you determined that the train was too heavy for the bridge.
@@WJack97224 well keep wondering 😂😂😂😂
Why do so many American railways look like they haven't been maintained for like a century? As a train driver, I'm certainly happy I don't have to work there.
Because they're inevitably tiny short-line railroads who just need the track to be good enough to haul non-hazardous freight around at 10mph usually. These companies generally have tiny budgets, a handful of customers and an equal handful of employees. Keeping the track maintained to a condition that would satisfy RUclipsrs would require vastly more money than the income they receive from servicing their customers... and besides that, what's the point in keeping a 15 mile long railroad maintained to 50mph standards?
Great video. Has trestle been replaced/repaired yet?
no, hoping work will start soon, bids in
@@RicCarter will you be allowed to to repair it? I can imagine in some areas government would enforce modern ordinances that would condemn the entire trestle. Curious to know if there is off the shelf electronic sensor technology that could monitor The Trestle going forward and predict failure based on increasing vibration and deflection @ weight. My brief work in sensing and machine learning software was geared toward sending alarms before catastrophic failure. I would think pre failure changes always occur, but that has to be continuously measured and analyzed with software to be made visible. The sensors and the math and the wireless transmission is all standard technology, but creating the system that could do that would be expensive. That's why I asked if there was something off the shelf already. Luckily the train wasn't dumped into the water! If you knew what pilings needed work based on their performance you could maintain The Trestle based on actual priority and have confidence that it can handle the load you ask of it.
@@JamieMurdock90 I work for a local County government in Florida and we are trying to get some crossings replaced. CSX has pretty much told us to pound sand. 😁
@@JamieMurdock90 equipment and materials placed yesterday, looks like work soon.
@@subicstationditosailor4053 hmmm Hillsborough or Pinellas perhaps?
Is there video of the bridge repair operation?
will be when repairs begin
@@RicCarter, Good on ya mate.
About as exciting as watching lint gather in my belly-button! I had time to fetch me some beers and get back to the site. Thanks!
Yeah, how dull, but as the description says, they had to..."devise a plan". wow soon as I saw it I thought...split the train, pull car slowly back off the weak section.
That looked like the State road workers. 1 working and 10 standing around with their phones in there hands. Cool catch.
do you see all the bents and caps and corbel blocks that's a trestle
it’s must be hot there ay?
My late father grew up in Little Washington on Willow St!!
PINETOWN! My neck of the woods
In Germay this line would be put out of service immediately by the EBA Federal Railway Agency. But I have seen mainlines in the US exsp UP which are worse
Germany has their shit together, thats for sure
This isn't exactly a mainline, except in the sense that it's probably this shortline's ONLY line, haha. There are federal standards for track maintenance with different tiers for 10mph, 25mph, 40mph and so on. Needless to say, 10mph track doesn't have to be maintained to the highest standards.
@@nicholaswhitfield9341 even a short line would be closed with this standards here Germany has app 67 minor training accidents a year the US over 3500 not counted those which were not reported
@@steffenrosmus1864 Because lines like these simply wouldn't exist in Germany. Lightly trafficked branch lines owned by tiny companies with a handful of employees and a number of customers you can count on two hands aren't going to look like a high-speed mainline. The numbers don't work.
@@nicholaswhitfield9341 how do you know those lines would not exist in Germany. Around my hometown there were 3 of them and all in far better shape. I worked for the Federal RR Administration for 35 years and had to supervise those lines.
We have our 11 best people on it. (No I mean "on" the bridge)
And one went under the broken bridge while the train was still on top.
Just grab 2 handyman jacks and a railroad tie... have er fixed in no time!
Hey man, you got a car bumper jack?
Don't forget some 2x4's to shim it up with.
Nice background. Scenic river. Looks like bolts holding the sections together sheared off when I guess the pilings failed.
No gate at this location?
👍good work
Is this near black water jacks?
exactly
That'll take LOTS of cans of Fix-a-flat!
I don’t know much about trains, but if I was the foreman, I would pull that car with chain, not with another car, just in case the trestle would give out.
Yeah, train cars can pull a domino effect so when one flips, the ones around get flipped as well.
@@cezarcatalin1406 👍
@@cezarcatalin1406 Forgot to mention a small chain, so it would be strong to pull but, not strong enough to resist a yank.
Ok fans, that's our excitement for today. Everyone can go home. Thank you.
Pretty cool! Thanks
Just pull it out already.... it’s obviously safe considering they are under it
has this been repaired?
equipment and materials started rolling in yesterday
Sounded like hold up to me.
Now that is scary!
Phil Swift here....
I SAW THIS TRAIN IN HALF
Looks Like underside of GW bridge.
Old sounding Nathan 3m train horn
they need some better words that dont sound so much alike "pull" what did you say whoa, "go" Oh go
To me it sounded more like he said hold on when he actually said pull on it
i’ve seen a lot worse but this is some bumpy rail
In U.S.A. vedo molto spesso che le ferrovie sono in uno stato di manutenzione che è paragonabile ai paesi più poveri dell'Africa, si tratta di una vergogna mondiale che dimostra come la speculazione privata non ha nessuno scrupolo etico.
East bound and hopefully not down. 10/4. Ha.
don't laugh, Bandit is back! Seth MacFarlane is teaming up with some of the biggest names in comedy to develop a Smokey and the Bandit TV series. You made me look it up! no network yet, hope it Airs soon...
That is one SAD horn
Boy this line has been pretty neglected those tracks look like they were laid by a crew of drunks.
Вот вам и Америка, мост устал жестко😃
Такой лабуды полно наа ЖД в Америке. Сам видел часто.
Это и смешно мостом назвать.
Just more one business day at office.
The railtrack and bridge like in some third world country...
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Not fer nuthin' but all of the track shown in this clip seems to be lacking in maintenance. Just watching that loco wobbling at low speed is enough to make that obvious to us armchair quarterbacks.
First, the zoom lense compresses the footage, making the wobble appear to be much worse than it actually is. Second, it’s a low-budget shortline. Tracks like this are restricted to low speed operation because of its condition. Even on a well-maintained, high speed mainline, equipment and infrastructure can still fail.
@@Mark-jl6tl ... you said it yourself... it's the condition of the tracks that restricts the speed. I live along a short line and I see rail maintenance on a regular basis, even though the normal speeds probably don't go over 40 mph. BTW, I think the word you are looking for is "distorts", not "compresses" the image. Even with the obvious distortion, the tracks should not appear bumpy, but should have a gradual curve.
@@rupe53 In this case, both adjectives are applicable. But this whole subject opens a can of worms. As I mentioned in a couple of other responses, at what point does it make it economically feasible to rebuild a shortline back to Class A mainline status? IMO, if the shortline operator cannot financially maintain a safe physical plant without government assistance, then they shouldn’t be given operating rights in the first place. I don’t mean to come across as a hard ass, but a track such as the one seen in the vid shouldn’t have to be maintained for passenger speed operating conditions, but it the infrastructure should still be inspected/maintained regularly for safe, slow-speed operations. That said, things still go bump in the night. Even a brand new car can have a premature failure at times.
@@Mark-jl6tl .... yes, inspected on a regular basis. Even simple things have a normal life span. Take wooden utility poles. They last for decades but at some point (say 40 - 50 years) they need spot checks to look for signs of failure. Same goes for bridges on our roads. Speed doesn't always dictate wear. Quite often it's age, regardless of how often it's used.
@@rupe53 Correct. I don’t want to run this particular railroad in to the ground. They may have done everything correctly, according to FRA standards, but something could have still failed prematurely. I am not a bridge(or railroad)expert, but common sense should prevail here. If a structure has been semi-submerged in water for any length of time, there are going to be obvious forces of nature at work here, even more so than just wooden ties laid in ballast on fairly level ground. Any rail line, big or small, should have a regular maintenance program in place to inspect structures such as these to prevent such issues from happening. Again, not to say that this particular operation didn’t have that in place, because as I mentioned, things still fail, be it aging or otherwise. My point is that we, as humans, cannot prevent everything from happening. It’s easy to point the finger of blame, but sometimes issues are simply beyond human control.
Clearly poor bridge maint.
glad the chemical cars don't cross here
Yea, that line had its big derail last year, they're still working on it-happily, that was molten sulfur and NOT some of the other stuff that travels that line
This is what happens when you don’t regularly take care of the infrastructure- keep making profits but don’t reinvest in repairs and protecting what’s already there - typical US economics.
It’s not just economics, it’s also ethics. It’s a low-budget shoreline. Oftentimes, a handful of local shippers lobby to keep a track open, local officials get a grant for the line to get upgraded, then the local shippers bail out anyway, leaving the track to become economically unfeasible to operate, leading to its abandonment. Then local officials get another grant to turn it into a rails-to-trails that few people end up using. Simple answer: Stop government bailouts, on all levels.
Time for some divers to do the hard work ;)
Africa ?? almost...! What a poor condition the tracks and bridge are in !
That's bad 😲😮😬
You were so focused on taking pics forgot to zoom in at tracks
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a trestle bridge is all wooden and this bridge isn't
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trestle_bridge
No. Just NO.