TACTICS OGRE: REBORN - Hints and Tips for Beginners - 5 Things I Wish I Knew Before I Started!
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I’m pretty sure enemies don’t steal the drops anymore, instead they’re just put into that enemies drop bag, so you can’t miss any drops at all
This is correct.
I think you're right, it's mentioned in the Warren Report that if an enemy gets the loot, you have to kill them to get it back.
Was gonna Google this!
Just make sure you kill that enemy. And what about escaping enemies like some bosses?
Great, I remember in Brigandine the enemies get equipments and items if your Rune Knight or monsters die and also equip them. Good to know that.
1. Loot isn't lost forever. Kill the unit that picked it up and it will be included with theirs.
2. There is an AUTO EQUIP function. On the switch just press "X" while hovering an equipment slot and extra functions will display. I think they call it the context menu in the settings. Not sure what the corresponding key is on the PC/Steam version.
On PC/Steam I think it's left shift which is weird.
I literally came to the comments just to see if anyone mentioned this yet about the Auto-equip
Separate saves is important. But for the biggest choices, the end of chapter ones that lead to the 3 paths, you use the WORLD system to go back and do other paths instead of old saves like in the original.
Having separate saves is what made the difference between me being able to complete a certain quest line vs otherwise being locked out of it.
Love these "5 things I wish I knew before" videos. Very helpful.
Very helpful! Can't wait to pick up a physical copy of this soon.
Tips from the original
Always keep a bow as an extra weapon in most characters: even if there not great with a bow it's helpful to pile on damage to opponents at range.
Canopus: Axe & bow are good but a spear is great. Also don't forget Lans & Warren
Worth taking the time to keep your main units up to date, also afew alternate specialist.
Mages take some work at first but they are worth the effort
Not sure if they changed the training exploit. In the old game you could use AI commands to train up your units. It would take time but you could really focus on improving the way you wanted.
I always do training with full AI. Not much point doing training manually since there's no risk.
The party level cap prevents you from overleveling as well as make it easier for new units to catch up to the experienced units.
I'm loving the level cap so far. The game becomes one where actual tactics is important instead of just bulldozing enemies with overwhelming stat advantage
Lots of comments on #5, worth clarifying that David still has a point:
If an enemy picks up a loot bag, it adds to their loot they drop, BUT...
If you don't kill that enemy before clearing the stage, then the loot is lost, ALSO...
That means the enemy who picked up the loot bag won't drop a stat card, which in many cases are better than the often common loot
I love this style of video for RPG’s. Keep up the good work!
Canopus is in Ogrebattle too and he's an ass kicker there as well. Im really happy this game seems to have gone over well. The amount of strategy games that have popped up recently is so awesome. Thanks David!
Especially when he has a good Bow.
Indeed
Thanks Dave, just started the game. I haven't made it very far, but will use your tips!
Awesome video!! I'm excited to play this game!! Going to start tonight lol 😀
Love the Tactics Ogre content. Currently playing it now, and it has been doing a fantastic job keeping me intruiged.
Hey David, Tx a lot. And yes the birdman is amazing really helps a lot overcoming difficult fights. Saved me many times😀
Canopus is a brute. His stats are through the roof and he has excellent mobilty.
Amazing video! Remember to ALWAYS read the Warren Report 🧙🏼♂️
Never played TO but I was hugely into the original SNES Ogre Battle during high school so I am looking forward to the game. Funny about Canopus because in OB he was a hidden character who was a pain in the neck to get if you didn't read about how to get him to join in Nintendo Power.
Another good tip that I've done this playthrough is to use the recruit ability often. Getting more flyers and classes you don't have yet is super helpful
My recruit percent was always very low or zero. So I removed it and used other skills instead.
@@zakunick1 once people get to critical health the percents usually above 10. At that point I spam the chariot wheel until it works
I bought the game and am loving it !!! Thanks for this video David ! Hope y’all had a good thanksgiving 🍁 🦃 out there ! Sending love from GA ! Keep up the good work dude .
Nice video!
Been playing this game since 1995 but I still need to check in here and see all the mechanics I still haven't figured out.
2 minutes in and I’m already overwhelmed haha
Been waiting for your response about this game! Spent over 10 hours on this so far over the weekend. This masterpiece was always my favorite SRPG and it still is.
Hi David! I actually like this game more than FF Tactics. Played it on PSP and loved it. These are quality tips. Thanks for the awesome video!
Canopus is an absolute beast. I seem to recall using a spear paired with a bow on him though? You might get a little less damage than an axe, but I always loved the reach option to avoid counter attacks.
For the enemy stealing y¿the loot bags, if I remember correctly if you then kill that enemy they will drop both theirs and the items they collected too, so as long as you make sure to kill them before the end of the battle you can recover those
This is helpful thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing game!!! playing it right now!!!
you are right, if enemy gets the loot it's lost forever, unless! you kill it and claim back the loot plus his loot. :) great new feature on Reborn i must say.
I also notice you get extra dialogs from bosses depending on how many enemies you kill from their troops, like venting their frustration, don't remember that happen in previous versions... or was there?
thx my man
Great vid, thanks. I'm wondering if you may talk about the differences in mechanics between Tactics Ogre: LUCT and Tactics Ogre: Reborn. I've played LUCT, but haven't played Reborn yet. Do the changes in the mechanics for Reborn hurt or hinder the experience when compared to LUCT's more original take on the mechanics?
Gonna fire this bad boy up later this week, thanks for the primer 👌
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there is an optimize option. don't know the console controls, but on pc you just rmb on an empty equip slot and it will give you options to optimize equipment or unequip all. in Xbox controls iirc you should press Y to open that menu
Thanks for the video David. I don't know if it's a PS5 exclusive but when I press "triangle" in the equipment menu I get an option to "optimize" gear. Nevermind I checked its "Auto-equip" not exactly the same thing. :(
you don't need keeping separate saves, after beating one rout the "time travel" mechanic opens up, allowing you to travel back at story defining points in time and choosing another rout.
Daggers are OP, I waited to chapter 3 to switch around some weapons to test out different builds, I wish I would have put a dagger on Canopus the minute I got him
Because of their damage? or other stat lines?
@@aaronwentzel8695 Well as far as I've seen no weapon really has an advantage on damage, at least not as of chapter 3. The first finisher is actually a ranged finisher that had the wind element attached to it so Canopus does more damage with it because of being wind element himself. The 2nd finisher has a chance to do Stop. There is still a lot of info yet to be discovered but so far daggers are rocking
I don't know if u heard but they confirmed party members in ff16 for the most part of the game and that in the beginning of the game I think they mean when Clive is a teen that there's a 2nd controllable character
Will have to pick this up at some point. I guess I should do Triangle Strategy first, I dunno
SRPG lover here -- Tactics Ogre is one of my favorites ever and I had high hopes for Triangle Strategy. While TriStrat is also a great game, it's got *nothing* on TO Reborn in terms of engaging story, impactful choices, and character/unit customization to your heart's content. Make the right choice for you! :) About 40 hours into Reborn just 4 days later, and loving every minute.
@@KLNDR Yeah, but I bought Triangle already with a GMG voucher, and Square is notorious for not lowering prices. At the moment, I’m doing a DQ XI playthrough with all Draconian quests, or at least until I feel I can’t progress without disabling some of them, so it would ne a while anyway.
This game is a masterpiece. The only other version of this game I have ever played was the PS1/Snes version. The changes are huge improvements.
I Changed Canopus into an Archer so he could use Great Bows....now I can't change him back to his default class- do not do this.
Excellent video, as always. What a fantastic game with a huge amount of content.
That is why I always made my main character to be wind aligned, because Canopus is. Then spam the affinity spell that raises wind aligned characters and lowered the earth aligned ones.. not sure if they have that spell in this remake though.
They don't
It is a randomly activated autoskill now
So basically the gist of this vidoe is "USE AND ABUSE CANOPUS AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY", Yeah that seems like good solid advice.
I love every change in this version of the game…EXCEPT the level cap. The level cap often causes you to be around 2 levels below the enemies in all of the major fights, and it feels a bit unfairly stacked against you. Some of the bosses can basically one-shot you (especially bad if they have AOE spells or skills) near the end of chapter 3 and onward. I don’t mind the cap, but it should’ve been tweaked a bit. You should be able to go at least 1-2 levels above, not below.
A tip I would give is to have at least a few reserve units that are flexible so that you can have multiple knights, warlocks/witches, clerics, or dragoons in certain major battles. And DEFINITELY get a griffon or two and a dragon or two. It’s a life saver to have extra damage vs certain monster types (dragoons and warlocks), or extra healers…or extra heavy damage dealers/ damage sponges (knights/beasts/dragons)
FYI you can remove the level cap with cheat engine, its very easy, you can look it up on the steam forum for more instruction.
Archers are only good at picking off light armor wearers. Don't expect to do much damage against plate or certain monsters. Ninjas are once again overpowered, and Beast Tamers are very useful as healers with their throw item command.
you just do not know how to play this game arche are pretty good you just need to know how to play and make them strongest
what's hard with this game is that when you're new, you don't know what classes will learn later...so sometimes you change into something, think it's just bad and change into something else.
Likewise, being a class too early when skills aren't available yet is a waste of time.
I also wish I understood the importance of status effects and buffs
I'm not that much of a fan of this type of class system. Unlike Final Fantasy, where you could just switch to a class and have the abilities right there and when you learn their abilities, it's permanent.
I forgot how good not to mention how deep this was.. I made it about halfway through the old version on PSP.. Thank god this latest one seems a little more streamlined..
I believed Octopath Traveler was the first rpg, to use hd sprites and crisp detailed 3d backgrounds. I may think Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together for psp, was the rpg to use hd sprites and detailed 3d backgrounds to come out first. I may point out the psp releases of Final Fantasy 1, 2, 4 and 4 The After Years are first ever games to use hd sprites. Before Octopath Traveler came up with the idea.
if enemy picks up a loot bag its content's are just added to that unit's loot, so you do not loose it forever, it's no longer the case in this version at least. but it used to be that way in psp version.
great tips, but I somehow doubt that David didn't know all these before he started.
#5 isn’t entirely true except for stat bonuses which the enemy prioritizes.
You can kill the enemy that took the lot and all items they took will be added to the bag they drop when dead
Can i ask what version its better? Ps4, Ps5 or switch? Plz
You're wrong about the bags that drop. You can still get them once you kill the enemy that picked it up
The lack of an “optimise” option in the shop is annoying. That was so useful in FFT
Regarding mages, so is it better to stack spells that match their affinity? At the moment I have one wizard, one enchantress and a rune fencer.
I’ve just been kind of throwing spells on them as they are available, I always made sure that at least one spell matched their affinity but should I make them all or nothing specialists?
I find that it’s best to just stick with their element…it usually does the most damage. it might be ok to switch out a spell if you’re fighting a particularly difficult boss and you need to target their weakness, but I mostly stick with their element. And if you use Canopus probably give him wind spells…just because of his passive that can reduce wind defense on nearby units.
I wish that they would release Oger Battle Rise of the Black Queen for PC
When possible, the best way to loot is to recruit the unit, add them to the roster, strip them of all their gear, then dismiss them. That way, you get everything: equipment, items, and spells. This also opens the option of replacing under-leveled units with higher level ones, rather than grinding their levels up.
I'm still in the early game, but I recruited a few characters who seem interesting for now, Like a zombie and a cleric with light element affinity.
As a long-time lover of Final Fantasy Tactics, I'm excited to finally dig into this game! Interesting that the choices in the story actually matter, here. That's not something I normally like in a game, but for TO it feels appropriate to the tone and setting.
And of course I was gonna use Canopus... he's fine af >v>
Haha thirsting after Canopus, there's a new take for the godsend bird man! Love it 😂 would love to hear how you're liking TO Reborn, coming to it fresh.
And yeah, choice routing in other games can feel hollow and cheapen the experience -- but TO does it masterfully, better than any other I've ever seen.
After seeing how long one has to spend in the menu, I was totally turned off the game. But after watching your video, now I wanna try it 😂
I'm tempted although I find this style of JRPG to be a bit difficult for me. Can you be as evil as possible?
Do you not lose Canopus after the first couple battles? Or do you get him back later?
He leaves for 3 or 4 battles but returns before the end of chapter 1
There is Deneb?
Point 5 is no longer true. As long as you kill the enemy that picked a loot bag before the mission ends, you get that loot.
No auto equip is such a bummer
How can i make the ai use buffs they don’t use buffs at all
can i grind levels in the training section? so im over level because im really bad at this game wish it had an easy mode like triangle strategy
there is a level cap between story battles, but I think you can still level up skills but those take a long time.
@@stephenwatson6277 thanks 😉
So far it is a lesser version of the PSP one. A lot of the streamlining choices (skill slots, training Option instead of rando battles, the skill management) make it feel more hollow than anything. It is still fun, but Playing the PSP version really set me up higher hopes.
Oddly to me, FF Tactics Advance is more like Tactics Ogre than its ps1 predecessor.
I always killed all of the enemy units. BUT!! That having been said, there are 3 ethnicities in the game. Killing soldiers of the same ethnic background as yours can lower their loyalty. You can check their loyalty by seeing what they say to you on their status screen. Keep an eye on it. Losing a character you put a ton of effort into sucks.
You don't need separate saves.
No spoilers. It's unnecessary.
Oh myphunk THIS games way too deep holy 💩 WTF I'm like my heads spinning just from the 1st battle screen i didn't even bother paying attention to the stats things maybe i should restart cuz IDK what i like i guess I'll wait n see
So, sounds like this might be worth checking out? Oh boy, too many good games releasing at the same time…
The game actually pronounces Canopus. Why does everyone say it wrong? It rhymes with Cannabis.
Hmm I dont think I'll get this one. It doesn't look significantly different from the last remake of this I played, and I found the gameplay to just be kind of persnickety and frustrating compared to FF tactics. I was hoping this "reborn" would look or feel more upgraded than it seems to be here. Oh well I know there are lots of big fans out there so I'm sure this is well received!
I recommend watching coffee potato's videos on tactics ogre, he knows the game like the back of his hand
Big disagree here, Coffee P's coverage is admirable for people who are hundreds of hours into Tactics Ogre routes, but for new players he's atrocious -- the worst imaginable topic focus, tons of "advice" which is, at best, irrelevant for 99% of players and more commonly misleading & experience-ruining, and horribly misleading video titles are the norm on that channel.
For a new player I'd rather recommend just playing the game blind after maybe a quick video or two like this one, beginner's tips.
@@KLNDR Yes, after watching a few of his vids I totally agree with you. Thanks for calling him out.
I dont get how crossbow works, i mean my archer just deals 1 damage to almost everyone
Oddly enough crossbows seem to work best on non-archer classes. The bow for the archers gives better range and flexibility. But what really matters is the def of the defender.
@@Alamyst2011 lol, but i still need to know what im doing wrong why my crossbows wont deal damage
@@MonoBanana69 Either the crossbow and character combined do not outmatch the defense of the enemy. Usually the case with early archers and crossbows. Or that character needs to work on the mastery and equip it
@@Alamyst2011 So archers are useless in early game?
I think that archers tend to deal better damage to units with light armor (or with low defense). So typically you would use them to snipe the back line and get rid of healers or mages. It might be that they are a slight downgrade compared to how they worked in the psp version…considering that the level cap in this version causes you to typically be 1-2 levels below a lot of the opponents in the more difficult battles, and archers tend to have higher dexterity than strength. There’s also a bit of a rock-paper-scissor element going on…archers do piercing damage, and heavy armor/high defense units are better tackled with bludgeoning weapons. So it’s best to approach them with knights carrying hammers (at least this has been my experience.
gaah.. i hate to say this, but this game is kicking my ass. I thought id get it playing hours and hours of FF tactics. Even tho somewhat similar, it is also very different. =\
Every battle is a challenge. The same team and tactics will not work in every battle. Having numerous classes to choose from is key. Also having them fully updated and equipped.
Beyond that, knowing your affinities and equipping spells to align with affinity is helpful.
Sometimes you will need to train 3 or 4 times before the main battle; just to bring up soldiers that were not required last battle, that would be required for the current one.
The game is difficult but worth the challenge. Its also takes a noticable turn toward easy after chapter 2 imo
Dynast-kings mead is an item purchasable at the shop that has a 100% chance to inflict "breach" which lowers an enemies defense. Using this became nearly required for me against all of the "boss" fights.
Sometimes enemy healers will prioritize curing status effects than healing outright. So using stuff like Poison can be beneficial to stopping them from healing the enemy your trying to focus down because they will waste a turn curing it.
Rune Fencer / Valkyrie is a good early game unit because they have meditate, and can use finisher attacks more often than other classes.
If using a Berserker, wait until Beserk (auto skill) activates then try to use Sanguine Strike (40 MP skill). These stack, and can do an insane amount of damage in a melee AOE.
Chapter 2 has a dungeon that allows you to farm for money, XP, items, and recruits. There also is a bug with the "Baldur Blowgun" that allows you to sell it for more than it costs to craft from scratch. If you are far enough along to craft these then I advise doing so to print that cash! (So you never have to run out of Dynast king meads. Drinks for everybody!)
Use scouting feature in the battle ready screen often. Knowing the enemy team comp can give good advice on what team to take with you. If there are a lot of beasts/dragons then a Dragoon can counter them well. If there is a lot of mages/casters then an extra archer, or someone with silence on can help majorly with disabling then. If there is a boss then a beast master with lobber can let you weaken the boss with Dynast-king mead without getting dangerously close. If there are a lot of undead then an extra Cleric can help so your able to balance heals with excorcisms. If the map has chokepoints, and few alternative paths then less slow melee fighters because they can get in each other's way or a well placed knight can make those chokepoints your advantage instead.
A slept, petrified, or charmed enemy is as good as a dead one until the status wears off. If you can land one of these on an enemy then ignore them to focus on someone else. Silence on a caster basically renders them useless as well.
Poison absolutely shreds. Some weapons also have a chance to proc it. A slightly weaker weapon with a "on hit" status effect is likely more beneficial than a slightly stronger countrrpart.
Don't be ashamed to use the Chariot system. The enemy team tends to have higher level, and more units so its only fair to be able to reverse time once in awhile. There is a title locked behind never using it, but that is arbitrary anyway.
Sorry for the long message! Its a great game that when it "clicks" it really clicks, but it definitely is much harder to get into from a newcomers perspective especially with the level caps and stuff that prevent grinding our way through content.
@@Alamyst2011 good to know thanks! I normally try to have a party i rock with constantly and i think that was messing me up. 👍
@@ry2950 awesome! thanks for letting me know!
There are errors in point #1
You don’t take less damage from your own element, it’s neutral. You take less damage from the element your element is strong to.
Also “opposing element” is incorrect. Only light and dark oppose. The other 6 form an elemental wheel like the wheel from ff11.
I didn’t watch any further. Soon as I saw the errors I realised this video isn’t for me.
"Much maligned PSP"? Seriously?
It wasn’t maligned by me, I loved the thing! But In general, compared to the DS, yeah, it was maligned.
Really wish they didn’t remove the rogue class and replace random battles with those dumbed town training battles. They should’ve allowed you to go into world map battles if you want so you can get gear and money drops as well as recruit. Training battles are so boring and use the same maps over and over without the benefit of drops and recruiting. Such a head scratcher and it kinda kills the world map variety
As someone whose first game in the series is this one (as in I don't know if this is well known or not), starting in chapter 2 there's a dungeon-ish area that is repeatable and you can just go in there and farm for drops, money, recruits, etc. In fact if you ignore this area you won't really be able to craft a lot of the craftable items.
@@shadef3915 oh I know I play this game on PC with the one vision mod (the definitive version of this game) but getting rid of random battles means all those map tiles on the world map besides dungeons are now 1 and done and replaced with the same town map over and over with no threat of dying or recruiting/drops/money etc and with the same enemies. It’s definitely not an improvement
@@sharebear421 Disagree, like Shade said the dungeon maps are plenty for what you feel like you're missing. And getting rid of the world map wandering save scumming or major disruptions to navigating place to place (esp Ch 3 onward) is a huge live-saver. What do you have against Phorampa and the other dungeons? They're literally everything you said you wanted, so the complaining is weird tbh.
@@KLNDR idk im a random battle enjoyer just from playing ffta. Phorampa so far in ch3 only has the one tileset so even if the maps are different I get not being able to do random battles on maps with the city, volcano, indoor, etc tilesets or on those specific maps. Though for all I know the dungeons have varying tilesets later on since I still only really have phorampa for repeatable dungeons.
Maybe they could've made it a setting or something?
@@shadef3915 yeah keeping random battles off but giving the option to be able to go into a map and initiate a battle wouldve been best. Dungeons are fine once you get there but now the world map is basically one and done and kills a lot of the variety it has on PSP. I’m all about variety and training battles are just kinda the opposite of that while also having non of the normal battle mechanics
I think after this. Square enix aren't getting a penny from me. It's not enjoyable for me what so ever
I feel like this could have been a 20 minute video. This comes across a little ADHD, jumping around too much without enough information. Also seeing many of the comments it looks like the information is not 100% accurate.
It's not ca-nope-is, it's cano-pis. Not sure how you even pronounce his name so wrong when this game literally has audible dialogue.
Do you want to edit your post? Both of those pronunciations are the same. I don't see or hear a problem.
@@Crocogator cuhnope-is vs cano-pis. Difficult to write, but his pronounciation is completely wrong, as i said before, by evidence of the actual dialogue in the game. He's either playing on mute, in another language, or he just decided to say it wrong for whatever reason
Not at all feeling this game :/ I’m trying to be open minded but I’m not hopeful. Just a slog of a game so far
Really tires of people thinking ff tactics was the better game. It was a child's version of tactics ogre. It was a joke to beat nothing tactically hard at all. I did play both on the original Playstation and tactics ogre was way harder and more fun. The remake just made the game even better. The only way I will give any attention to ff tactics again is if they actually make it a challage
This game is so bad your characters are trash excessive difficulty you hardly do damage i am so gonna refund this trash game
lol
Someone is getting his ass whooped
Git gud 😂