Land Rover Restoration Part 12 - Refurbishing Leaf Springs

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @Jconway651
    @Jconway651 3 года назад +236

    I don’t know where you have been.... but I consider leaving us this long without a video a deliberate abuse.

    • @phuzz00
      @phuzz00 3 года назад +43

      The question is, will Geoff's Landrover be finished before Project Binky?

    • @HeikoQuant
      @HeikoQuant 3 года назад +10

      ​@@phuzz00 Binky has been in paint for what? Five months now? My money is on the Land Rover.

    • @TheAnoniemo
      @TheAnoniemo 3 года назад +5

      @@HeikoQuant Same, this Land Rover isn't being held back my hand made custom brackets.

    • @HeikoQuant
      @HeikoQuant 3 года назад +4

      @@TheAnoniemo Sure. But the brackets are the whole point of Project Binky. Let's get the funk out...

    • @TheAnoniemo
      @TheAnoniemo 3 года назад +4

      @@HeikoQuant Pass the biscuits

  • @growingknowledge
    @growingknowledge 3 года назад +106

    Ah Geoff, just when we think you've been put on permanent house chores you spring back. Always a real pleasure to watch your videos, always too long between them.

  • @andrewhallett-patterson9778
    @andrewhallett-patterson9778 3 года назад +89

    This suggestion may be of value. The mine engineering workshop I supervise in Australia has had exceptional success in spring pack preservation and lifecycle extension by simply encasing the springpack in a highly flexible shrink tube impervious to underbody environments. To ensure this the springpack is disassembled, chemically and mechanically decontaminated, each individual leaf coated with extreme pressure CV joint grease, reassembled and encased, resulting in what is essentially an environmentally sealed lubricated springpack. Another great vid Geoff. Thanks bro.👍👍🇭🇲

    • @markdavis2475
      @markdavis2475 3 года назад +8

      Hi I heard that mine life is very tough on vehicles! Would wrapping the springs in Denso tape help protect them?

    • @andrewhallett-patterson9778
      @andrewhallett-patterson9778 3 года назад +58

      @@markdavis2475 If you want to expose bad engineering design principles, minesite occupation will expose all. Complete product failure is very common. Regarding your question, initial engineering benchmarks were established using 50mm Denso wax impregnated tape simply encasing the springpack after high pressure washing and blowdown to ensure a minimal moisture containment once encased. Initial testing involved a single overlapped, by 25%, encasing later expanded to include double and triple engagements for comparisons. An initial six month trial gave us insight to expand the trial to twelve months. Final results were positive, indicating excellent corrosion protection on both internal and external leaf surfaces, minimal solid and liquid particular ingestion and sufficient surface to withstand mild impacts. The negatives were minimal but could not be overlooked (In a mining suituation). The Denso tape failed when exposed to pressure washing, a site requirement to remove contaminates. This process, once the tape was damaged, exposed the interior surfaces to large qualties of solid and liquid ingestion, causing both chemical and frictional erosion of springpack. Failure was also noted when excessive vertical springpack movement was encountered, resulting in stretching, and if reoccurring, failure by tearing. The tape itself also sweated, with condensation forming under the tape and, on days of extreme temperature, softening and unraveling. At this stage, the previously detailed encasement technique was entering trial phase, so the tape was abandoned. In the civilian world, Denso tape could be successful, but in extreme conditions, failures are unacceptable. Hope this helps bro.👍👍🇭🇲

    • @hanshans387
      @hanshans387 3 года назад +4

      ​@@andrewhallett-patterson9778 super interesting, thanks!

    • @markdavis2475
      @markdavis2475 3 года назад +15

      @@andrewhallett-patterson9778 Wow! What a great reply! Thanks! We use the tape on buried installations and where our kit gets exposed to harsh environments like hot brine vapour, works well, but our parts don't move when in use!

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  3 года назад +31

      Makes sense. Back when leaf springs were the only option I think it was normal for luxury cars to have wrapped springs.

  • @GingerPiston
    @GingerPiston 3 года назад +21

    The intense music really had added to the extreme sense of danger and risk during reassembly, and I could barely contain myself during the copper-ease denouement. Looking forward to the sequel - The Springening.

  • @willjackson5130
    @willjackson5130 3 года назад +55

    I had a friend who put copper grease on his leaf springs, then 6 months later, no warning, BAM!!
    Herpes.

  • @philippm.1271
    @philippm.1271 3 года назад +46

    NOICE, HE IS BACK !

  • @ifitsrusteditsmine
    @ifitsrusteditsmine 3 года назад +12

    Loved the dramatic music over a view of 4 well restored leaf springs.

  • @LandRoverSophie
    @LandRoverSophie 3 года назад +31

    I have been following these videos avidly, they have been a great help to me in my own Series 3 rebuild. Informative and very entertaining as ever!

  • @wyattbiggs802
    @wyattbiggs802 3 года назад +81

    The music makes me feel like I’m playing Half Life

    • @aserta
      @aserta 3 года назад +9

      Or Doom.

    • @NathanBaulch
      @NathanBaulch 3 года назад +4

      Or Quake... sounds very Sonic Mayhem!

    • @Ampera_
      @Ampera_ 3 года назад +8

      "ended up looking suspiciously like a crowbar"

  • @Doughboy1941
    @Doughboy1941 3 года назад +16

    This channel is starting to become like an abusive relationship. You say nothing for weeks on end, but the second you post something new I come running back.

  • @budycelyn
    @budycelyn 3 года назад +8

    2020 just improved immeasurably, just need more of Mr Croker's workmanship... i have a resto to do on my 1977 series 3 but i would rather watch you do yours :)

  • @MiniLuv-1984
    @MiniLuv-1984 3 года назад +21

    Never thought it would be so entertaining watching old leaf springs being revived. Live and learn. Perhaps your aplomb with putting videos together has something to do with that. Can you make an entertaining video of grass growing?

  • @simonguerette9534
    @simonguerette9534 3 года назад +2

    This is it.
    I have found the best RUclips channel there is.

  • @dirk4926
    @dirk4926 3 года назад +8

    I've only changed out bushings in a set of leaf springs once. I was young, didn't have a lot of tools and no shop, it has a long, frustrating job, because I didn't own an axe.

  • @scottcates
    @scottcates 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for posting this. I intend to reburbish a small flatbed, tilt trailer but I have exactly zero experience with leaf springs. I am confident I can conquer the inherent mysteries within the springs now.
    I occasionally re-watch your videos to pick apart your work. On 06/27/2022 it was determined that the penultimate spring disassembly score starts at 1:55.

  • @t.h.o.r.
    @t.h.o.r. 3 года назад +12

    The amount of effort you put into production is epic- I love your vids Geoff. Brutus - My new Stage 1 V8 got his springs sandblasted today!

  • @ryno9732
    @ryno9732 3 года назад +17

    WELLL!!!!! welcome back!! very excited to see this video pop up

  • @ryanms60
    @ryanms60 3 года назад +1

    I would have never guessed a leaf spring video could be so satisfying. Thanks.

  • @adamkelly6264
    @adamkelly6264 3 года назад +7

    every time I walk past the pile of land rover parts in my driveway that I pretend is a long-term project I think "I wonder how Geoff is getting on with his?" and now I know.

  • @mrstanhope1516
    @mrstanhope1516 3 года назад +6

    Welcome back, my Friday just got better 👍

  • @jmunozar
    @jmunozar 3 года назад +6

    Hey Geoffrey, Thanks for not letting this land rover series die!, I was really excited when you posted this video after a while. Cheers man :)

  • @fabiano3807
    @fabiano3807 3 года назад +45

    "ended up looking suspiciously like a crow bar"

    • @Overlord341
      @Overlord341 3 года назад

      Yeah. What, no butter knives handy? I don't know that I've ever looked at a threaded object and thought "now there is a stable prying tool" but I suppose needs must... In any case, thanks for another fantastic video as always.

    • @thebnicho
      @thebnicho 3 года назад +2

      Pics or it didn't happen. :D

  • @alexanderconnell800
    @alexanderconnell800 3 года назад +18

    Welcome back!

  • @philprice12
    @philprice12 2 года назад +1

    When I stripped my springs I wanted to orientate them exactly where they came from . A small angle grinder cutting disc cut a shallow groove 1 -11-111 cuts 1 2 3 and then no cut for 4th position spring on the front curved edge of the spring. So that tells me which way round they fit and which wheel. Then at a different place on all 4 spring assemblies before dismantling I cut a vertical say 1mm groove down the side of each assembly. I then sent them for blasting in one pile knowing I could rebuild them exactly how they were originally on the vehicle by lining up the grooves . Nice video. Phil

  • @mbrown6930
    @mbrown6930 3 года назад +1

    Cracking stuff. Great to see another instalment, I've already watched all the others at least twice. Brilliant commentary and editing. I love the frustration red screen effect when things don't go to plan - we've all been there with nuts and bolts held in by 50 years of rust.

  • @adamcfmacdonald
    @adamcfmacdonald 3 года назад +2

    The hero we need arrives on the week we most need it with deep Landy cuts. Thank you Sir.

  • @vulgivagu
    @vulgivagu 3 года назад +1

    I had a 1966 Rover saloon P6 which had the same leaf spring assembly. The car version had nylon pads at the end of the leaves and were coated with grease that was kept in place by a waterproof canvas gaiter. It worked brilliantly and meant the reduced friction at the ends gave a smooth ride. One of the best cars I ever owned.

  • @johngunning2123
    @johngunning2123 Год назад

    This is a well-made video and I have watched it several times. I've just removed my springs from my 1955 107" Series 1 and stripped down my drivers' side front spring to individual leaves. I've decided to buy a new set of Parabolic Springs that come with U-Bolts, Shackle pins and new spring bushes. Expensive but I don't want to spend my time wire brushing leaves that are 68 years old and full of pitting.

  • @markgarrod4436
    @markgarrod4436 3 года назад +2

    Hi, I had a Rover P5 that the first owner had rapped the springs after greasing in Denso tape. The rest of the car rotted before the springs. Great videos. 🧐😁

  • @alexxconroy
    @alexxconroy 3 года назад +1

    So good to see you again....

  • @ryanwooldridge7546
    @ryanwooldridge7546 3 года назад +3

    God that ending was so intense.
    Glad you're back i can't get enough of your restorations. 👍

  • @BadWaterMotors
    @BadWaterMotors 3 года назад +3

    The clamp and bushing scene was too real it hurt. Love the vids.

  • @MrWilberbeast1
    @MrWilberbeast1 3 года назад +1

    Jeeze I wish I had access to these vids when I was a young fella. So much valuable information. If I end up buying another Land Rover, I’m going to blame you.

  • @definitelynotsnake
    @definitelynotsnake 3 года назад +13

    5:00am getting up for work.
    *Looks at phone
    "yessssssssss"

  • @酒飲み仙人
    @酒飲み仙人 3 года назад +1

    日本人です。所謂、板バネのレストアとは珍しい。過去に日本ではランドクルーザー70、ジムニーが板バネ式でした。板バネの足の長さは、今でも驚異的だったのを思い出します。本当に今回も楽しく観れました。ありがとうございました❗

  • @FlashPan73
    @FlashPan73 3 года назад +1

    Well done!. I look at it this way. If you keep these safe and clean, these can become a temp emergency spare to keep you going if needed, until a new spring arrives.

  • @aserta
    @aserta 3 года назад +3

    On my last leaf unpacking i put teflon film strips in between individual springs, it has pretty much solved my rust problems and the squeaks. And yes, the bolt type is superior, to prevent undoing or snapping, i use a disposable rivet however (torch and hammer on an anvil forms the heads fast and easy).

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  3 года назад +1

      I thought about putting UHMW tape in between the leaves last time. But the post was delayed and I never did it...

  • @TheDaniels5s
    @TheDaniels5s 3 года назад +3

    out of all of my subscriptions this is the channel i like the most and can't wait for new content from , Good Job

  • @thermmaloverload
    @thermmaloverload 3 года назад +6

    yes!!! missed you Geoffrey

  • @PhatPete111
    @PhatPete111 3 года назад +1

    Yes!! he's back!! its like chrismas. We need more of the rage guy, that cracked me up in your old episodes .

  • @zukowski2023
    @zukowski2023 3 года назад +2

    Mr Croker, was just starting to wonder where you had gotten to. Funny stuff, just re-watched the Rover rebuild two days ago, so the timing on this was spot on. Hope your doing well and clearly staying safe. Noticed you took the workshop tour video down a while back, so had the feeling you were up to "something".. Nice job on the springs, copper coat is always the "go to lube" for high pressure, lousy location applications. Thanks for the share!

  • @steamwally
    @steamwally 3 года назад +1

    Great to see you posting again, enjoyed that!
    Copper slip is great stuff, in the right application. Your springs should last forever with that.

  • @chrisunderhill6527
    @chrisunderhill6527 3 года назад +2

    I came for the pillar drill videos. I stayed for literally everything else!

  • @supervivet911
    @supervivet911 3 года назад +2

    Great to see you back, mate! You had me worried there...

  • @ruudmobile6726
    @ruudmobile6726 3 года назад

    Hey Geoff, "Remember 2019.... aaaah...". Reading all the positive and sympathetic comment below... I must admit too... I am addicted... sooo glad to see and hear you again. Not seeing your vids here... I nearly deleted youtube from my favourites... Cheers man!!!!

  • @davidgoodson7878
    @davidgoodson7878 3 года назад

    Too many comments to scroll through so apologies if it's already been said, but a pro tip: if you jam a cold chisel in the small gap end of the spring where it curls over and slightly widen the space by levering it, then the bushing will practically fall out by itself. Same when you push in the new ones. Save the press method for the frame bushes (12/10 on the misery index).

  • @petedig5809
    @petedig5809 3 года назад

    Let me add to the joy of seeing you back. I don't own a Landrover and almost certainly never will but your exploits and videos are always informative and amusing. Realising how much I enjoy them, I've joined your Patreon channel to hopefully help you do some more.

  • @sheep1ewe
    @sheep1ewe 3 года назад +2

    Great video as usual!
    The brooken ones makes excellent knifeblades for foresting and bushcraft knives.

  • @pixelpimp3
    @pixelpimp3 3 года назад +2

    Yesssssss so good to see another Landy video up 🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @hayden6930
    @hayden6930 3 года назад +1

    On my old Toyota I had good success with "switch plate spray' - a product used for lubricating rail switch plates. It's a dry graphite based extreme pressure lube designed to not wash off too easily. In my case I wedged a screwdriver between each spring and squirted it in there. Seemed to help with the ride quite well.

  • @iandavies3894
    @iandavies3894 3 года назад +1

    By far my favorite restoration project. I've missed you Geoffrey!

  • @ferrumlynx1914
    @ferrumlynx1914 3 года назад +8

    Better than Christmas, finally!

  • @thebnicho
    @thebnicho 3 года назад +4

    He's back!! Yay!! Should I mention the P word? You know, that type of spring that causes countless arguments amongst Series fans across the interwebs for the last umpteen years. No, don't mention it? No problem.

    • @munnsie100
      @munnsie100 3 года назад +1

      Fancy seeing you here, Brett!

    • @thebnicho
      @thebnicho 3 года назад +1

      @@munnsie100 Haha, you pop up everywhere too mate. :D

    • @munnsie100
      @munnsie100 3 года назад

      @@thebnicho, it’s just part of being in the omnipresent club, I guess!

  • @ianjoyce5120
    @ianjoyce5120 3 года назад +2

    Good timing Geoff, I binged watched the whole series last weekend.

  • @adriaanvansorgen4977
    @adriaanvansorgen4977 3 года назад

    Geoffrey's videos are the only videos on youtube I actually rewatch a few times.

  • @JamieBainbridge
    @JamieBainbridge 3 года назад +1

    I've seen someone grease the entire leaf stack then wrap it in heaps of thick plastic. Part of their "regular maintenance" is checking the plastic to make sure it hasn't split and let any moisture in, and if so replace it. Over the top? Maybe, but it did solve their pet peeve of hearing leaf springs clank together.

  • @akashenzi
    @akashenzi 3 года назад +2

    Great to have you back! 👏👏👏

  • @LasseMagnussen
    @LasseMagnussen 3 года назад +2

    Visited your channel yesterday, looking for new content. Surely I must have missed something; seeing as it was so long since last time. The Mandalorian can wait.

  • @j.b.6855
    @j.b.6855 3 года назад +1

    Great video. Somehow you make cleaning rust off of leaf springs interesting.

  • @bborkzilla
    @bborkzilla 3 года назад +1

    Appreciating the IRONy of working on rusty springs. I see what you did there!

  • @steveturpin4242
    @steveturpin4242 2 года назад +1

    With an old Landy you always need a large bucket of Anti Seize....."just in case!" There always seem to be cases of "justincase"....hehehehe !.......Great vids Geoffrey.

  • @yavuzdeniz1334
    @yavuzdeniz1334 3 года назад

    I think what you are doing is a marvellous job, best I have ever came across so far. Great!

  • @g2macs
    @g2macs 3 года назад +21

    You don't work for Bad Obsession Motorsport do you?

    • @johnsmith5726
      @johnsmith5726 3 года назад +10

      Waiting and waiting and waiting for Binky or even an escargot and what do we get a C1 OMG. Take care and stay safe fellow Scot.

    • @g2macs
      @g2macs 3 года назад +2

      @@johnsmith5726 :¬)

    • @Overlord341
      @Overlord341 3 года назад +3

      @@johnsmith5726 but..... Nik in a stylish cap? Still, more Escargot please.

  • @Pinzpilot101
    @Pinzpilot101 3 года назад +1

    Originality is one thing, but I have seen posts by people who say that these original type rubber bushes were cracking after less than a years use. The first stime I used Polybushes I was amazed at the difference in feel it made to the Landrover (and I have driven Series 2A and 3 Landrovers New, straight out of the box) I won't use anything but poly bushes these days.

  • @fabiano3807
    @fabiano3807 3 года назад +1

    glad to see that you are alive

  • @ericcorse
    @ericcorse 3 года назад +2

    I like the old scissors jack screw trick.

  • @SimonMurrayPhuket
    @SimonMurrayPhuket 3 года назад +1

    Nice to see you back and thank you for the video as always!

  • @christopherwarner3
    @christopherwarner3 3 года назад

    Glad to see you back,hope all is well!

  • @TBendez
    @TBendez 3 года назад +1

    Really glad to have you back!

  • @Flying0Dismount
    @Flying0Dismount 3 года назад +3

    You should have wirebrushed the springs after the initial sandblasting.. Blasting creates a huge surface area for rust to form, wirebrushing will burnish and smooth the surface and actually help slow the rusting process.

  • @eamontreanor1363
    @eamontreanor1363 3 года назад +1

    About bloody time mate.

  • @greaser5691
    @greaser5691 3 года назад +2

    I hate leaf springs... But then again I had a few Minis with both hydrolastic and rubber cushion suspension, and a Morris Major with a torsion bar front springs, so what would I know? :)

  • @hopsgarage5513
    @hopsgarage5513 3 года назад +1

    Didn't know I was playing Doom lol. Love the music and of course your work.

  • @frogeye22
    @frogeye22 3 года назад

    Great to see another video. If you're not planning on refitting them, they will make nice wall art - above the fireplace perhaps?

  • @scask
    @scask 3 года назад

    Thought the old C-19 had got you then I remembered your in NZ....Welcome back.....

  • @ElCubildelaHerramienta
    @ElCubildelaHerramienta 3 года назад +2

    nice but i was hoping you curve the leaf springs. I sad.

  • @finrambo3594
    @finrambo3594 3 года назад

    Thanks I have this job coming up and was looking at new springs as a cop out .It doesn't look to difficult(or should i say your video makes it look that way).

  • @bejay69
    @bejay69 3 года назад +5

    Guess who's back.....back again.

  • @graemelliott3942
    @graemelliott3942 3 года назад +1

    Hi Geoff, great vid mate, that’s one for the Bush!!!!😃👍🏁🍺

  • @lizowilliam013
    @lizowilliam013 3 года назад

    Finally, some sense of normalcy... we missed you so much sir

  • @stephenwood9380
    @stephenwood9380 3 года назад

    Good to have the Videos starting again , nice one. FYI the design of leaf springs is to flex and move so that the friction between the leaves is to add a form of dampening and I was told you should grease the out side on the spring but not the inside. But if your happy that is all that Matters

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  3 года назад +2

      I could be completely wrong so don't take this the wrong way, but I personally think the 'friction dampening' thing in leaf springs is an old wives tale.

    • @stephenwood9380
      @stephenwood9380 3 года назад

      @@GeoffreyCroker it could be a small factor I agree but leaf springs were around before shock absorbers and no I am not that old. Lol

  • @hannahranga
    @hannahranga 3 года назад +1

    Copper Eze seems like good plan, I've considered using a graphite spray but that's mostly cos work has plenty.

  • @MrButtonpresser
    @MrButtonpresser 3 года назад +1

    2020 needs way more of Geoffrey Croker! Way more.

  • @MartsGarage
    @MartsGarage 3 года назад

    Excellent job, Geoffrey. I just did a similar job on the rear spring on my project 1932 ford sedan. I didn't use the acid, though. May have missed a trick there. I'm trialling some 5th wheel grease on mine. Lets see how it holds up. If I'd spent that time and effort on those springs I'd be sure to use 'em! Mart.

  • @philhyde2635
    @philhyde2635 3 года назад +2

    Another classic Geoff, and the springs are connected to the CHASSIS 🤐

  • @รถก็เยอะคนก็แยะวุ่นวายชิบ

    Long time no see your video, Grate new story, thanks

  • @DDB168
    @DDB168 3 года назад

    Good to see you again. Great job. Never used the copper-eze. Looks the goods.

  • @Geoffpr
    @Geoffpr 3 года назад

    Ah that sweet feeling of another lr restoration video

  • @raywilkins8839
    @raywilkins8839 3 года назад +1

    Good to see you back

  • @ragfour9303
    @ragfour9303 3 года назад

    👌 More please.. I need the inspiration for my series 2A.. bought with a seized engine. I'll be 'tubing' it soon.

  • @erqadezz
    @erqadezz 3 года назад

    I love you videos, really simple and great looking, not to mention the comedy 😂 great job man. Cheers from Poland!

  • @b_mb4948
    @b_mb4948 3 года назад +1

    Oh how I've missed these videos.

  • @BahjatAlaadel
    @BahjatAlaadel 3 года назад +2

    Epic! Good to see you again!

  • @JockeSelin
    @JockeSelin 3 года назад

    I was seriously worried. I thought your alien overlords had decided that your content just wasn’t worthy of our viewership... Then on this day, we get a new vijeo. Amazing. Thank you alien overlords.

  • @munnsie100
    @munnsie100 3 года назад

    So glad to see another video! I've been eagerly waiting to see what happens next!

  • @Johanniscool
    @Johanniscool 3 года назад

    I love this channel so much. Definitely my happy place.

  • @pacomb
    @pacomb 2 года назад

    Geoffrey, I am going to experiment with the grease tape, creating a sort of leather gaiters, full big grease. I've read they work pretty well, as long as you don't cross rivers or ponds. Problem with grease between leafs (normal or copper) in a non enclosed situation, Is that dust will stick a create a nasty grinding paste. Same as bearings if they have grease but no seal. So in my opinion, if you use springs as per original, don't put grease, and just clean them with hight pressure water as much as possible to eliminate dirt and dust. And if you want perfect confort, use grease bands

  • @cracotator
    @cracotator 3 года назад

    Don't stop making videos ! Your skills anf patients is incredible ;)

  • @centurioncaio
    @centurioncaio 3 года назад

    Good to see you again!!!

  • @lukeporter8614
    @lukeporter8614 2 года назад +1

    Hi, as someone who does this professionally with custom purpose built machines and tooling for each step of the process it's interesting seeing how you overcome problems and struggles with basic tools. You seem to be quite knowledgeable when it comes to leaf springs, have you done this kind of work before or just done your research? Have to admit I was watching you clean the rust off the leaves and was about to comment that that they're in pretty bad condition and close to snapping and seconds later you said the same lol.