Ah Geoff, just when we think you've been put on permanent house chores you spring back. Always a real pleasure to watch your videos, always too long between them.
This suggestion may be of value. The mine engineering workshop I supervise in Australia has had exceptional success in spring pack preservation and lifecycle extension by simply encasing the springpack in a highly flexible shrink tube impervious to underbody environments. To ensure this the springpack is disassembled, chemically and mechanically decontaminated, each individual leaf coated with extreme pressure CV joint grease, reassembled and encased, resulting in what is essentially an environmentally sealed lubricated springpack. Another great vid Geoff. Thanks bro.👍👍🇭🇲
@@markdavis2475 If you want to expose bad engineering design principles, minesite occupation will expose all. Complete product failure is very common. Regarding your question, initial engineering benchmarks were established using 50mm Denso wax impregnated tape simply encasing the springpack after high pressure washing and blowdown to ensure a minimal moisture containment once encased. Initial testing involved a single overlapped, by 25%, encasing later expanded to include double and triple engagements for comparisons. An initial six month trial gave us insight to expand the trial to twelve months. Final results were positive, indicating excellent corrosion protection on both internal and external leaf surfaces, minimal solid and liquid particular ingestion and sufficient surface to withstand mild impacts. The negatives were minimal but could not be overlooked (In a mining suituation). The Denso tape failed when exposed to pressure washing, a site requirement to remove contaminates. This process, once the tape was damaged, exposed the interior surfaces to large qualties of solid and liquid ingestion, causing both chemical and frictional erosion of springpack. Failure was also noted when excessive vertical springpack movement was encountered, resulting in stretching, and if reoccurring, failure by tearing. The tape itself also sweated, with condensation forming under the tape and, on days of extreme temperature, softening and unraveling. At this stage, the previously detailed encasement technique was entering trial phase, so the tape was abandoned. In the civilian world, Denso tape could be successful, but in extreme conditions, failures are unacceptable. Hope this helps bro.👍👍🇭🇲
@@andrewhallett-patterson9778 Wow! What a great reply! Thanks! We use the tape on buried installations and where our kit gets exposed to harsh environments like hot brine vapour, works well, but our parts don't move when in use!
The intense music really had added to the extreme sense of danger and risk during reassembly, and I could barely contain myself during the copper-ease denouement. Looking forward to the sequel - The Springening.
This is a well-made video and I have watched it several times. I've just removed my springs from my 1955 107" Series 1 and stripped down my drivers' side front spring to individual leaves. I've decided to buy a new set of Parabolic Springs that come with U-Bolts, Shackle pins and new spring bushes. Expensive but I don't want to spend my time wire brushing leaves that are 68 years old and full of pitting.
Thank you for posting this. I intend to reburbish a small flatbed, tilt trailer but I have exactly zero experience with leaf springs. I am confident I can conquer the inherent mysteries within the springs now. I occasionally re-watch your videos to pick apart your work. On 06/27/2022 it was determined that the penultimate spring disassembly score starts at 1:55.
2020 just improved immeasurably, just need more of Mr Croker's workmanship... i have a resto to do on my 1977 series 3 but i would rather watch you do yours :)
Cracking stuff. Great to see another instalment, I've already watched all the others at least twice. Brilliant commentary and editing. I love the frustration red screen effect when things don't go to plan - we've all been there with nuts and bolts held in by 50 years of rust.
Let me add to the joy of seeing you back. I don't own a Landrover and almost certainly never will but your exploits and videos are always informative and amusing. Realising how much I enjoy them, I've joined your Patreon channel to hopefully help you do some more.
Hey Geoff, "Remember 2019.... aaaah...". Reading all the positive and sympathetic comment below... I must admit too... I am addicted... sooo glad to see and hear you again. Not seeing your vids here... I nearly deleted youtube from my favourites... Cheers man!!!!
Jeeze I wish I had access to these vids when I was a young fella. So much valuable information. If I end up buying another Land Rover, I’m going to blame you.
every time I walk past the pile of land rover parts in my driveway that I pretend is a long-term project I think "I wonder how Geoff is getting on with his?" and now I know.
This channel is starting to become like an abusive relationship. You say nothing for weeks on end, but the second you post something new I come running back.
I had a 1966 Rover saloon P6 which had the same leaf spring assembly. The car version had nylon pads at the end of the leaves and were coated with grease that was kept in place by a waterproof canvas gaiter. It worked brilliantly and meant the reduced friction at the ends gave a smooth ride. One of the best cars I ever owned.
I've only changed out bushings in a set of leaf springs once. I was young, didn't have a lot of tools and no shop, it has a long, frustrating job, because I didn't own an axe.
When I stripped my springs I wanted to orientate them exactly where they came from . A small angle grinder cutting disc cut a shallow groove 1 -11-111 cuts 1 2 3 and then no cut for 4th position spring on the front curved edge of the spring. So that tells me which way round they fit and which wheel. Then at a different place on all 4 spring assemblies before dismantling I cut a vertical say 1mm groove down the side of each assembly. I then sent them for blasting in one pile knowing I could rebuild them exactly how they were originally on the vehicle by lining up the grooves . Nice video. Phil
Never thought it would be so entertaining watching old leaf springs being revived. Live and learn. Perhaps your aplomb with putting videos together has something to do with that. Can you make an entertaining video of grass growing?
Well done!. I look at it this way. If you keep these safe and clean, these can become a temp emergency spare to keep you going if needed, until a new spring arrives.
He's back!! Yay!! Should I mention the P word? You know, that type of spring that causes countless arguments amongst Series fans across the interwebs for the last umpteen years. No, don't mention it? No problem.
Mr Croker, was just starting to wonder where you had gotten to. Funny stuff, just re-watched the Rover rebuild two days ago, so the timing on this was spot on. Hope your doing well and clearly staying safe. Noticed you took the workshop tour video down a while back, so had the feeling you were up to "something".. Nice job on the springs, copper coat is always the "go to lube" for high pressure, lousy location applications. Thanks for the share!
Hi, I had a Rover P5 that the first owner had rapped the springs after greasing in Denso tape. The rest of the car rotted before the springs. Great videos. 🧐😁
On my last leaf unpacking i put teflon film strips in between individual springs, it has pretty much solved my rust problems and the squeaks. And yes, the bolt type is superior, to prevent undoing or snapping, i use a disposable rivet however (torch and hammer on an anvil forms the heads fast and easy).
I was seriously worried. I thought your alien overlords had decided that your content just wasn’t worthy of our viewership... Then on this day, we get a new vijeo. Amazing. Thank you alien overlords.
Good to have the Videos starting again , nice one. FYI the design of leaf springs is to flex and move so that the friction between the leaves is to add a form of dampening and I was told you should grease the out side on the spring but not the inside. But if your happy that is all that Matters
I could be completely wrong so don't take this the wrong way, but I personally think the 'friction dampening' thing in leaf springs is an old wives tale.
I've seen someone grease the entire leaf stack then wrap it in heaps of thick plastic. Part of their "regular maintenance" is checking the plastic to make sure it hasn't split and let any moisture in, and if so replace it. Over the top? Maybe, but it did solve their pet peeve of hearing leaf springs clank together.
On my old Toyota I had good success with "switch plate spray' - a product used for lubricating rail switch plates. It's a dry graphite based extreme pressure lube designed to not wash off too easily. In my case I wedged a screwdriver between each spring and squirted it in there. Seemed to help with the ride quite well.
Too many comments to scroll through so apologies if it's already been said, but a pro tip: if you jam a cold chisel in the small gap end of the spring where it curls over and slightly widen the space by levering it, then the bushing will practically fall out by itself. Same when you push in the new ones. Save the press method for the frame bushes (12/10 on the misery index).
With an old Landy you always need a large bucket of Anti Seize....."just in case!" There always seem to be cases of "justincase"....hehehehe !.......Great vids Geoffrey.
I don’t know where you have been.... but I consider leaving us this long without a video a deliberate abuse.
The question is, will Geoff's Landrover be finished before Project Binky?
@@phuzz00 Binky has been in paint for what? Five months now? My money is on the Land Rover.
@@HeikoQuant Same, this Land Rover isn't being held back my hand made custom brackets.
@@TheAnoniemo Sure. But the brackets are the whole point of Project Binky. Let's get the funk out...
@@HeikoQuant Pass the biscuits
Ah Geoff, just when we think you've been put on permanent house chores you spring back. Always a real pleasure to watch your videos, always too long between them.
Too true.
He did definitely - spring - back :)
This suggestion may be of value. The mine engineering workshop I supervise in Australia has had exceptional success in spring pack preservation and lifecycle extension by simply encasing the springpack in a highly flexible shrink tube impervious to underbody environments. To ensure this the springpack is disassembled, chemically and mechanically decontaminated, each individual leaf coated with extreme pressure CV joint grease, reassembled and encased, resulting in what is essentially an environmentally sealed lubricated springpack. Another great vid Geoff. Thanks bro.👍👍🇭🇲
Hi I heard that mine life is very tough on vehicles! Would wrapping the springs in Denso tape help protect them?
@@markdavis2475 If you want to expose bad engineering design principles, minesite occupation will expose all. Complete product failure is very common. Regarding your question, initial engineering benchmarks were established using 50mm Denso wax impregnated tape simply encasing the springpack after high pressure washing and blowdown to ensure a minimal moisture containment once encased. Initial testing involved a single overlapped, by 25%, encasing later expanded to include double and triple engagements for comparisons. An initial six month trial gave us insight to expand the trial to twelve months. Final results were positive, indicating excellent corrosion protection on both internal and external leaf surfaces, minimal solid and liquid particular ingestion and sufficient surface to withstand mild impacts. The negatives were minimal but could not be overlooked (In a mining suituation). The Denso tape failed when exposed to pressure washing, a site requirement to remove contaminates. This process, once the tape was damaged, exposed the interior surfaces to large qualties of solid and liquid ingestion, causing both chemical and frictional erosion of springpack. Failure was also noted when excessive vertical springpack movement was encountered, resulting in stretching, and if reoccurring, failure by tearing. The tape itself also sweated, with condensation forming under the tape and, on days of extreme temperature, softening and unraveling. At this stage, the previously detailed encasement technique was entering trial phase, so the tape was abandoned. In the civilian world, Denso tape could be successful, but in extreme conditions, failures are unacceptable. Hope this helps bro.👍👍🇭🇲
@@andrewhallett-patterson9778 super interesting, thanks!
@@andrewhallett-patterson9778 Wow! What a great reply! Thanks! We use the tape on buried installations and where our kit gets exposed to harsh environments like hot brine vapour, works well, but our parts don't move when in use!
Makes sense. Back when leaf springs were the only option I think it was normal for luxury cars to have wrapped springs.
2020 just got a bit better, welcome back!
This is it.
I have found the best RUclips channel there is.
The intense music really had added to the extreme sense of danger and risk during reassembly, and I could barely contain myself during the copper-ease denouement. Looking forward to the sequel - The Springening.
I had a friend who put copper grease on his leaf springs, then 6 months later, no warning, BAM!!
Herpes.
that explains a lot..
I have been following these videos avidly, they have been a great help to me in my own Series 3 rebuild. Informative and very entertaining as ever!
Nice to see you here.
We follow yours too
Thanks Sophie 👍
Land Rover channels unite.
This is a well-made video and I have watched it several times. I've just removed my springs from my 1955 107" Series 1 and stripped down my drivers' side front spring to individual leaves. I've decided to buy a new set of Parabolic Springs that come with U-Bolts, Shackle pins and new spring bushes. Expensive but I don't want to spend my time wire brushing leaves that are 68 years old and full of pitting.
So good to see you again....
I would have never guessed a leaf spring video could be so satisfying. Thanks.
Loved the dramatic music over a view of 4 well restored leaf springs.
Thank you for posting this. I intend to reburbish a small flatbed, tilt trailer but I have exactly zero experience with leaf springs. I am confident I can conquer the inherent mysteries within the springs now.
I occasionally re-watch your videos to pick apart your work. On 06/27/2022 it was determined that the penultimate spring disassembly score starts at 1:55.
After watching a ton of your videos this one made me subscribe
NOICE, HE IS BACK !
Hey Geoffrey, Thanks for not letting this land rover series die!, I was really excited when you posted this video after a while. Cheers man :)
WELLL!!!!! welcome back!! very excited to see this video pop up
2020 just improved immeasurably, just need more of Mr Croker's workmanship... i have a resto to do on my 1977 series 3 but i would rather watch you do yours :)
Geoffrey's videos are the only videos on youtube I actually rewatch a few times.
Yes!! he's back!! its like chrismas. We need more of the rage guy, that cracked me up in your old episodes .
Welcome back, my Friday just got better 👍
Best thing on the internet
日本人です。所謂、板バネのレストアとは珍しい。過去に日本ではランドクルーザー70、ジムニーが板バネ式でした。板バネの足の長さは、今でも驚異的だったのを思い出します。本当に今回も楽しく観れました。ありがとうございました❗
Ah that sweet feeling of another lr restoration video
out of all of my subscriptions this is the channel i like the most and can't wait for new content from , Good Job
glad to see that you are alive
I came for the pillar drill videos. I stayed for literally everything else!
Great to have you back! 👏👏👏
Cracking stuff. Great to see another instalment, I've already watched all the others at least twice. Brilliant commentary and editing. I love the frustration red screen effect when things don't go to plan - we've all been there with nuts and bolts held in by 50 years of rust.
Yesssssss so good to see another Landy video up 🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻👍🏻👍🏻
God that ending was so intense.
Glad you're back i can't get enough of your restorations. 👍
Let me add to the joy of seeing you back. I don't own a Landrover and almost certainly never will but your exploits and videos are always informative and amusing. Realising how much I enjoy them, I've joined your Patreon channel to hopefully help you do some more.
Thank you!
Really glad to have you back!
The hero we need arrives on the week we most need it with deep Landy cuts. Thank you Sir.
Hey Geoff, "Remember 2019.... aaaah...". Reading all the positive and sympathetic comment below... I must admit too... I am addicted... sooo glad to see and hear you again. Not seeing your vids here... I nearly deleted youtube from my favourites... Cheers man!!!!
Welcome back!
yes!!! missed you Geoffrey
Jeeze I wish I had access to these vids when I was a young fella. So much valuable information. If I end up buying another Land Rover, I’m going to blame you.
every time I walk past the pile of land rover parts in my driveway that I pretend is a long-term project I think "I wonder how Geoff is getting on with his?" and now I know.
Good timing Geoff, I binged watched the whole series last weekend.
By far my favorite restoration project. I've missed you Geoffrey!
The amount of effort you put into production is epic- I love your vids Geoff. Brutus - My new Stage 1 V8 got his springs sandblasted today!
Cheers 🤙 Brutus looks great 👍
Great to see you posting again, enjoyed that!
Copper slip is great stuff, in the right application. Your springs should last forever with that.
Nice to see you back and thank you for the video as always!
This channel is starting to become like an abusive relationship. You say nothing for weeks on end, but the second you post something new I come running back.
Better than Christmas, finally!
2020 needs way more of Geoffrey Croker! Way more.
I had a 1966 Rover saloon P6 which had the same leaf spring assembly. The car version had nylon pads at the end of the leaves and were coated with grease that was kept in place by a waterproof canvas gaiter. It worked brilliantly and meant the reduced friction at the ends gave a smooth ride. One of the best cars I ever owned.
I think what you are doing is a marvellous job, best I have ever came across so far. Great!
I've only changed out bushings in a set of leaf springs once. I was young, didn't have a lot of tools and no shop, it has a long, frustrating job, because I didn't own an axe.
Finally, some sense of normalcy... we missed you so much sir
When I stripped my springs I wanted to orientate them exactly where they came from . A small angle grinder cutting disc cut a shallow groove 1 -11-111 cuts 1 2 3 and then no cut for 4th position spring on the front curved edge of the spring. So that tells me which way round they fit and which wheel. Then at a different place on all 4 spring assemblies before dismantling I cut a vertical say 1mm groove down the side of each assembly. I then sent them for blasting in one pile knowing I could rebuild them exactly how they were originally on the vehicle by lining up the grooves . Nice video. Phil
Good to see you back
Glad to see you back,hope all is well!
Great to see you back, mate! You had me worried there...
About bloody time mate.
Never thought it would be so entertaining watching old leaf springs being revived. Live and learn. Perhaps your aplomb with putting videos together has something to do with that. Can you make an entertaining video of grass growing?
The clamp and bushing scene was too real it hurt. Love the vids.
Great video. Somehow you make cleaning rust off of leaf springs interesting.
I love this channel so much. Definitely my happy place.
The music makes me feel like I’m playing Half Life
Or Doom.
Or Quake... sounds very Sonic Mayhem!
"ended up looking suspiciously like a crowbar"
yaaaaaa, good to have you back on the you tube mister Geoffrey ! more kiwi goodness keep up the great work mate
Well done!. I look at it this way. If you keep these safe and clean, these can become a temp emergency spare to keep you going if needed, until a new spring arrives.
So glad to see another video! I've been eagerly waiting to see what happens next!
He's back!! Yay!! Should I mention the P word? You know, that type of spring that causes countless arguments amongst Series fans across the interwebs for the last umpteen years. No, don't mention it? No problem.
Fancy seeing you here, Brett!
@@munnsie100 Haha, you pop up everywhere too mate. :D
@@thebnicho, it’s just part of being in the omnipresent club, I guess!
Mr Croker, was just starting to wonder where you had gotten to. Funny stuff, just re-watched the Rover rebuild two days ago, so the timing on this was spot on. Hope your doing well and clearly staying safe. Noticed you took the workshop tour video down a while back, so had the feeling you were up to "something".. Nice job on the springs, copper coat is always the "go to lube" for high pressure, lousy location applications. Thanks for the share!
ooh - long time subscriber...no notification! Glad the RUclips blessed me with putting this in my feed!!!
Great video as usual!
The brooken ones makes excellent knifeblades for foresting and bushcraft knives.
Good to see you back at it! Here's to 2021!
Good to see you again!!!
Welcome back mate!
Hi, I had a Rover P5 that the first owner had rapped the springs after greasing in Denso tape. The rest of the car rotted before the springs. Great videos. 🧐😁
I love you videos, really simple and great looking, not to mention the comedy 😂 great job man. Cheers from Poland!
Appreciating the IRONy of working on rusty springs. I see what you did there!
The "Daktari" channel is crackling back on air! Well, greetings from team Toyota Geoff, nice to have you back and may the best team win.
Don't stop making videos ! Your skills anf patients is incredible ;)
On my last leaf unpacking i put teflon film strips in between individual springs, it has pretty much solved my rust problems and the squeaks. And yes, the bolt type is superior, to prevent undoing or snapping, i use a disposable rivet however (torch and hammer on an anvil forms the heads fast and easy).
I thought about putting UHMW tape in between the leaves last time. But the post was delayed and I never did it...
I like the old scissors jack screw trick.
welcome back Geoffrey, great video great mastery 💪💪💪
I was seriously worried. I thought your alien overlords had decided that your content just wasn’t worthy of our viewership... Then on this day, we get a new vijeo. Amazing. Thank you alien overlords.
Good to have the Videos starting again , nice one. FYI the design of leaf springs is to flex and move so that the friction between the leaves is to add a form of dampening and I was told you should grease the out side on the spring but not the inside. But if your happy that is all that Matters
I could be completely wrong so don't take this the wrong way, but I personally think the 'friction dampening' thing in leaf springs is an old wives tale.
@@GeoffreyCroker it could be a small factor I agree but leaf springs were around before shock absorbers and no I am not that old. Lol
Dis guy deserves more subs... for the quality video he puts... my opinion...!!!
Well done, Sir! Welcome back.
nice to see you back :)
I've seen someone grease the entire leaf stack then wrap it in heaps of thick plastic. Part of their "regular maintenance" is checking the plastic to make sure it hasn't split and let any moisture in, and if so replace it. Over the top? Maybe, but it did solve their pet peeve of hearing leaf springs clank together.
On my old Toyota I had good success with "switch plate spray' - a product used for lubricating rail switch plates. It's a dry graphite based extreme pressure lube designed to not wash off too easily. In my case I wedged a screwdriver between each spring and squirted it in there. Seemed to help with the ride quite well.
Too many comments to scroll through so apologies if it's already been said, but a pro tip: if you jam a cold chisel in the small gap end of the spring where it curls over and slightly widen the space by levering it, then the bushing will practically fall out by itself. Same when you push in the new ones. Save the press method for the frame bushes (12/10 on the misery index).
Woohoo!! He’s back!!!!!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thought the old C-19 had got you then I remembered your in NZ....Welcome back.....
Hi Geoff, great vid mate, that’s one for the Bush!!!!😃👍🏁🍺
Epic! Good to see you again!
🤩
A good video to end the week
This is made 2020 much more better!
Long time no see...welcome back!
Oh how I've missed these videos.
With an old Landy you always need a large bucket of Anti Seize....."just in case!" There always seem to be cases of "justincase"....hehehehe !.......Great vids Geoffrey.
Long time no see your video, Grate new story, thanks
I do love this channel
Yes! An update! Whooohoo!!
Glad to see a new video.. great work mate. Keep it up