747 Landing Goes Wrong, Near Engine Pod Strike
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that autoland was showing how safe and modern planes are nowadays, spectacular
If by modern you mean something much older than granny, then yeah 🤷♂️
And that was a sim, not that it would be much different irl.
@@Shadow__133that’s not a simulator…
@@joanor71e48 That is 100% a sim. Look at the center column projected behind the physical one. Still, I said that is irrelevant as “it wouldn’t be much different irl”.
@@Shadow__133 and how would there be sunlight in a simulator
@@Shadow__133I thought you meant MS flight sim and was thinking they superimpose video of actual people over the animation now 😂 I would like to see more pro flight sim vids showing all sorts of conditions
The autoland was super impressive planes are incredibly safe!
Autoland: Now I understand why Mentour said in another video "Your job here is to constantly monitor the instruments, nothing else! Otherwise you easily get spatially disoriented" - yep, that's what happened to me after 2 seconds 🤣!
that autoland looked scary, it called out "100" and nothing was visible lmao
That's why it's there. Awesome technology
I like how chill the two guys were after being struck by lightning
You would be surprised how often it actually happens...
That was a proper British reaction, no screaming or anything haha
@@VroomAndPew In a big plane, it's not that big of a deal. In a smaller one, it's can be a little scarier.
@@VroomAndPew I've heard it's something like every commercial airliner flying gets struck at least once a year.
I can't imagine doing an autoland like that. You really have to put a lot of trust into the automation to land an aircraft in visibility so bad you can't even see the runway until 30ft.
There's something so astounding about watching a plane take off or land! The sheer physics of it all is amazing!
The auto land is very impressive. I was on an L1011 back in 1984. I was able to visit the flight deck & asked the pilots about everything. I told them I was a nervous flyer & the pilot said the plane could land itself in Montreal (Mirabel Airport). GPS, TCAS & many other improvements have made it safer to fly.
The L-1011( was CAT IIIB autoland out of the factory. First airplane so certified. It was sweet. Consistently would autoland as good or better than you could. Not an autoland in a crab like the Boeings do (I don’t know about 787. Flew them up through the 747-400), but at 100feet it would establish a slip and land 1-2-3 just like you’re supposed to.
I loved the 747, especially the -400, but on its best day it wasn’t an L-1011. Nothing I flew even came close.
@@georgiathai4961 Agreed, the L-1011 was a one of a kind beauty.
@@dwmzmm IMHO, the most beautiful looking plane ever built.
I was in the jumpseat up front in 767-300ER back in the late 90's where the pilots did an autoland with near zero visibility until we were 50 feet off the runway. Watching this left me speechless which says a lot. So impressive seeing it for yourself.
That 787 landed like a dream, it mist nothing. 😉👍
I love the phrase "a troubled landing"
Going back to the early 70's we had an emergency landing after an engine caught fire, that was scary. Then in the early 90's approaching landing in outback Alice Springs and with limited fuel, we followed a Cesna which crashed on the runway, we had to pull up very quickly, that was a bit hairy. But then in 2006 landing at Heathrow our QUANTAS pilot announced were were landing in heavy fog, he got that right, you couldn't see the runway at all even after the landing. But the landing which for me was a bit hairy not being able to see a thing was so perfect I hadn't even realised we had touched down. Hat's off to the pilot and the technology.
That B747 made a perfect landing despite the windy conditions.
I tried Autoland once in a 737-400 in the mid nineties but that was in visual conditions. It was hard enough to trust the system then. However it landed better than most of my landings as a junior FO.
I was on an SAA 747-400 landing in fog bound LHR. Captain said first time using it. I believe it had HUD. Was able to land beautifully while others had to go around.
When I think about it, the autoland might feel hard to trust, but really everything in a modern passenger aircraft is hard to trust, especially the flight computers that might have a bug lurking in them. I can kinda understand what makes autoland work, but I can't understand what it takes to manage and coordinate quality control for each component of every aircraft, all of which have to work (or indeed fail) in a predictable way that the pilots have been trained to manage. I just learned a 787 has 4 million parts. I think the 747 had 6 million. When you have millions of variables, something's going to go wrong at some point. Ok, instruments fail, engines sometimes have to be shut down, tires can blow, but what about those gremlins in all the computers? They are probably not there, but how would we know?
Don't get me wrong, I love flying, and the most important variable is the safety record. Modern aircraft are safer than anything that flew 30 years ago. I just think too much sometimes. I wouldn't want to be the one in charge of all that quality control, especially for a plane that was designed and built by separate teams on 4 continents.
thanks for another great video!
Loved that SilkWay landing… almost every SilkWay 747 landing I’ve seen is a spectacle😁
I really like the Dreamliner, looks sleek and interior is real nice.
That second 747 Pilot knows how to make all those tires Bark!
1:10 That was a perfect landing.
Wow. A lot happened during this short video. Great stuff.
That autoland is scary! You'd have to really trust the aircraft!!
You'd really have to trust the computer flying the aircraft...
@@applejacks971 Yea but thats kinda the same.. Because the computer is inside aircraft, right?
@@applejacks971 You really, really have to trust the humans who designed and implemented the computerized autoflight system and remembered to account for all eventualities - including the one where stuff happens and the pilot decides to execute the go-around mode! ;-) Peace and love. grin...
@@gcorriveau6864 🤣👍
Best one yet.
My sense of scale isn't quite there, but it looked like the inner engine nacelle was just a couple feet away from a very expensive repair bill. And no surprise for the wheel smoke; landing obliquely ensures there's skidding along at least one axis.
Lots of dramatic moments, be they accidental or in the case of that helicopter, deliberately induced.
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO
That last bit was cool.
Just agree.
what a great selection of videos as always, even if i missed this video when it was posted ☺🤣
The autoland was fantastic!
20 years ago saw a nosedive from a helicopter at château renard, Mont ventoux france. Could almost feels the wash.
Reminded me of the opening credits of Magnum P.I.
Great video!😸
Me: “Huh, that Dreamliner’s pretty out and up for auto land.”
Plane: “100”
Nice alignment on the ILS.
We need 10 more seconds of aviation
The helicopter pilots in Switzerland do that all the time. You can always tell if they have passengers on board or not. If they are going at a sedate pace, they have paying customers on board, if they come in like their pants are on fire, they are empty.
I am of the opinion that a certain amount of "crazy" is bred into a good helo pilot. Some of the stunts they pull off is amazing.
@@chrisharris7893 After reading *Chickenhawk* - a book about UH-1 pilots in the Viet Nam War, I'd completely agree! Some fantastic sorties stories like the pilot landing in the middle of a vicious firefight on a beach near Da Nang, picking up as many Marines as he could and trying to take off so overloaded that he had to bounce the Huey repeatedly off the sand on the beach to get the thing airborne! The Huey pilot who after a messy and bloody Dust-off would land his Huey in a shallow part of the Perfume River in Hue whereby the water would ingress to the rear compartments and wash out all the blood and guts from the soldiers they had MedEvac'd earlier. Hehe, landing a Huey in the river to clean it! Respect.
@@chrisharris7893 Did you ever see a hawk fold its wings and basically drop from the sky? That. In a helo. Over a cliff and down the sheer rock. When they are doing ski rotations, they literally go to the edge, point their nose down 50deg and drop.
The 747-8 landing with the tire smoke and braking action with the brakes I'm surprised the fusible plug didn't melt on the wheels! The fusible plugs operates as a safety valve when dangerous temperatures, rather than dangerous pressures, are reached in a closed vessel. Fusible plugs are commonly installed in aircraft wheels, most typically in those of larger or high-performance aircraft
Teasing us that the Cargolux was going to be the one where one of the landing gear bogeys flew off.
Never mind his bogeys, I should think the pilot's under-crackers flew off due to high speed/pressure bowel evacuation!
thank goodness for Blancolirio
@@drforjc Indeed. Even though he couldn't show the video, he drew our attention to it.
Cool
wow hard landing by this 747, I can't imagine what would have happened if the engine had actually hurt the ground...
Id think the ground would hurt the engine more.
In 1969 the first Pan Am 747 sent to Renton to prepare the flight test plane for delivery, caught one landing gear bogie on the sea ramp for boats, lost that bogie and landed on remaining gear 12 wheels plus used one engine as a ski, It flew and was delivered awhile later after repairs. Renton has 5000 ft runway, pilot tried to use the whole runway, Second time they did that lands at 1000 ft from sea ramp and stopped it in 2000 ft. First pilot was nervous
Great plane!
@@JamesAnderson-mr2sg Thanks fot this story ! I imagine there was tension in the cockpit !
I am sure, I saw it right after in happened, sitting in the middle of the runway with all the slides deployed
The first auto-landing of a commercial flight was aboard a British Hawker-Siddley Trident in 1965 on a flight from Paris to Heathrow, London. Not so new after all.
Thank God we have autoland now 😮 because at 50, there was barely 10% visibility.
Why should planes have all the fun : HELICOPTER
Comments are interesting. Everyone needs to look at the ailerons. This guy had full right aileron input right after touchdown. Pilot error here. When landing these big jets you need to be super vigilant to keep the wings as level as possible. If I see an FO letting a wing down more than 3-4 degrees I start making inputs to correct it.
They teach you that over at Atlas?
@@TB-um1xz Well, they should. The 747 doesn't have a lot of margin when it comes to bank during landing/touchdown. I believe the outer engine strikes at around 6.5° - correct me if I'm wrong. A twin engine such as the 777, on the other hand, has a margin well over 10° (13.5, I believe) and the slats strike even before the turbines.
@@maxwiegand3871 they should not have 2 pilots touching the flight controls at the same time.
You are not a pilot.
Look at the windsock. They are coming with a right crosswind. It is standard to add some aileron into the wind after touchdown to prevent that wing from coming up. But this pilot added a bit too much a bit too early.
On the 787 autoland I noticed they skipped the “approaching minimums”, “minimums”, “continue” routine
The silkway B747 had a spoilers on the right wing 1 to 2 seconds before the spoilers on the left wing.
i noticed that too
What was the RVR on that autoland landing?
That autoland looks like a go-around to me?
The 747 landing spoilers came up on the right hand side before the left.
Cargolux…..hold my beer!
That Silly SilkyWay plane...
low visiility is a massive understatement lol so crazy
0:55 - I'm old but anyone else hear the "AIRWOLF" theme song? Hehe
Excuse me if I wrong...
In the last video, the autoland, I saw the captain with one hand on the controls... Possibly, if something went wrong I believe.
CargoLux is the new AeroSucre
Prestwick is my local airport 😀
YoU oWe Us 9 SeCoNdS!😂
@74gear was this you?
AP did all the job.
2:30 that landing at ORD was amazing!!!!
The 747 crew took "the yoke to the side of the wind" very seriously !
I always wonder how a landing gear can handle such a bank angle. I thought each of the 4 main landing gears of the 747 is a stiff assembly without tha ability to compensate the bank angle. So how come there is no broken axle or something?
Strong materials, good design and proper maintenance
Surely the 787 landing was way below the decision altitude or minimums or whatever it is that says you have to go around if you can’t see the runway yet
Thumbs up, but no Aerosucre? 🤔
Did the pilot flying the 747 put too much rudder and therefore causing the plane to swing like that?
Auto land was just awesome 😎 was on a flight to Montreal back in 95 on a 767. It was same as this. No visibility until 50’off the ground. I’m sure she didn’t have auto land 😅
2:51😢
I suspect this is dust on the runway, rather than smoke from hot rubber: 1:15
Nope, it looks exactly like the light blueish white colored burnt tire smoke.
What was up with the camera tho in that airplane clip? 🤔😬
Quit treating those 747’s so rough…they’re classics….don’t make them anymore!😁
747 landing went fine.
"Saved my Bacon!" Am now OK to travel in an aircraft knowing as a passenger we need to have faith in modern electronics....But was holding my breath with that computer/brain flying.
For a second there I thought Pepsi had their own 747.
the RVR was less than 300 feet gees
For a moment there I thought Navy pilots were landing on aircraft carriers 🤣🤣🤣
I have to question whether the 787 at the end was really an autoland procedure. Standard procedure on the autoland is the FO (right seat) is the pilot flying on final down to the threshold, and the Captain (left seat) has his right hand on the throttles (in case of a last second GA), and then the Captain takes over control of the plane as soon as it touches the ground. In this video, the Captain (left seat) appears to be flying the plane on short final, at least he has his left hand on the yoke, which is not the normal procedure for a true autoland.
Wrong. The fo doesn't have to be the pilot flying, and the 787 can track the centerline after touchdown so there is no need to take over the controls straight after touchdown. No one was controlling the plane,during an autoland you can and should actually put your hands on the yoke just in case as it's not a tesla.
The yoke doesn't stay stationary with the ap engaged, but it actually moves according to the ap inputs.
@@Hk-uw8my maybe wrong for the 787, but what I was describing is based on a video that I saw on the @MentourPilot channel, which I believe applied to the procedure for autoland in the 737. Considering he is a real world commercial pilot flying the 737, I don't believe that @MentourPilot would make this up.
@@kevindigo22 he didn't make that up, you just got it wrong and without context.
Even on the 737, The fo doesn't have to be the pilot flying, it can be both pilots depending on what was scheduled just like with normal landings. Or it would just be a mentour pilots airline specific procedure , so not applied by everyone else.
Also, most 737s can't track the centerline after touchdown , as the autopilot is simply not connected to the rudder, and this is surely the norm for mentour 's airline. Hence why in this case, the autopilot must be disconnected after touchdown.
But keep in mind that is still not true for all 737s. There is a specific version of the NG with a fail operational autopilot , and which has a rudder channel .
Therefore, with them just like with the 787, there is no need to disconnect the autopilot straight after touchdown anymore. As Boeing states in the manual, such planes will use localizer signals and main gear tracking to maintain the centerline, so the pilots can just wait until they are about to exit the runway before disconnecting the autopilot.
Finally, guarding the controls(yoke throttle and rudder) during an autoland should be considered from common sense alone, even though Boeing still took the time to specify it in the book.
@@Hk-uw8my My comments were based on reporting what I saw in a video, and I believe it to be a credible video created by a real world pilot that flies the 737. The only thing wrong is that I thought the procedure shown in that particular video that I watched applies to all autolandings in all aircraft, when it clearly does not. It is now clear to me that autoland procedures are not all the same, they vary by aircraft type and capability, aircraft age and level of avionics, by company operation procedures, by crew training and qualifications, by external conditions such as RVR, and probably other factors I am not even aware of. Thanks for helping me learn.
Lol B747 camera angle only nice landing
Captain Joe, is that you?
10 seconds : *DISAPPEARS*
True, but we got an extra five seconds last week so I'm letting this one slide.
@@cheztaylor8 Ok :)
THATS MY LOCAL AIRPORT I SAW IT
Perfectly acceptable, why is this even on the channel?
#1 - speed brakes appear to have deployed asynchronously.
Nope. They deployed exactly as designed. Look at the ailerons....
I agree, the OP is wrong. The PF has full right aileron, which will limit the spoilers on the left side.
@@TB-um1xz … You’re right. Little crosswind from the right with too much aileron use messed things up a little.
1m13se #Captain Joe?? 😜
Videoshopped-?
Steep dive = straight down.
I thought you couldn't even auto land without certain visibility conditions?
The 787 has IR HUD.. the pilots can see clearly as if it a sunnyday
You owe us 9 seconds of aviation
Never heard this one before … 🙄
The quality of that last clip makes up for a few seconds 'missing'.
*10 seconds
if autopilot can land safely why needs pilot landing at all? can it solve all the troubled landings this channel has posted?
I wonder why the helicopter would make such a steep dive. Isn't that dangerous?
Not as much as the video makes it seem no but yes it can be if you don't know what you are doing. And the answer would be because it's fuckin awesome 👍 😎
I guess minimums don't exist with autoland?
The landing limits for full auto landing are very low. Basically, zero. Varies depending on the airport limitations.
In fact. Auto land must be used in very poor ceiling/ visibility. It is known as Category iii autoland.
You owe us 9 minutes of aviation
During autoland, the pilot are required to still hold the controler in case?
Yes. It is mandatory just in case pilots need to take over the plane manually.
Not a silky smooth landing then
idk what to say ;o
I’d give that a 7. Not out of 10, but on the Richter Scale.
No way the autoland should be used in that low of visibility.
The last one is never a B747.
Helicopter pilot had no business flying the way he/she did. No regard for the people and homes below.
This and the next video on a380 should have-had a lot of comments and re-enactment win gamer communities by now. Along with solutions to bad this and lousy that.
Thumbs down for editing the thumbnail for more drama!
The first one didn't look that terrible
Way over correction on 747.
Autoland is for pilots with limited skills landing in adverse conditions, I've retired from flying 747's and didn't use autoland I prefer landing manually keeping my landing skills sharp
So "Captain", does that mean your career is littered with illegal landings below minimas?
I'll drive