This is an interesting format, being different from the other members of the The Rest Is... stable, but I like it. And I can see why you can't exactly do chats about "breaking news" in the world of espionage! Looking forward to more.
@@ExiledGypsy Arguably, undemocratic regimes are significantly more fragile, hence events like the Arab spring and the colour revolutions.... plus the need for repressive policies.
@olliestudio45 That is not even the concensus. Of course it depends on if you think the Democratic Republic of North Korea is Democratic. Shah's regime was far more democratic than the Islamic Republic. Isreal is called a Democracy too when it is a theocracy just like the Islamic Republic. It is even more theocratic. How do you define a Democracy. I don't think there is even a consensus on that.
Did iran really get 33pct of profits from anglopersian prior to nationalization? How does that compare to the economics inherent in current leases for example? That seems rather reasonable in a world where when the deal was originally struck (eg when churchill was first lord of the admiralty), the tech to extract oil was emybronic and the market was exceedingly uncertain and id imagine projected to be a fraction of what it turned out to be... This angle is entirely ignored in all this talk that implies a degree of exploitation by the english.
This is so badly edited. But more importantly if according to the Iranian constitution at the time the Shah could appoint and dismiss the Prime Minister, how was removal of Mossadiq a coup? Or was the real coup Mossadeq’s refusal to go a coup? 🤔 Also how can you say the resentment against the US still goes on in Iran? 🤦🏻
Very good lads well done really interesting stuff
Loved this! Excited for the next one:)
This is an interesting format, being different from the other members of the The Rest Is... stable, but I like it. And I can see why you can't exactly do chats about "breaking news" in the world of espionage! Looking forward to more.
Any idea why Amazon Music Podcasts are not carrying this?
7:23, Kermit is a pan-Arabist 'eh. I guess that would have made him anti-Persian.
Would it be unfair to conclude that this is part of a long tradition of toppling democracies and/or legitimate regimes for minor foreign policy goals?
This is. Why people gave up on democracy. It is just so easy to distablise.
@@ExiledGypsy Arguably, undemocratic regimes are significantly more fragile, hence events like the Arab spring and the colour revolutions.... plus the need for repressive policies.
@olliestudio45 That is not even the concensus. Of course it depends on if you think the Democratic Republic of North Korea is Democratic.
Shah's regime was far more democratic than the Islamic Republic. Isreal is called a Democracy too when it is a theocracy just like the Islamic Republic. It is even more theocratic.
How do you define a Democracy. I don't think there is even a consensus on that.
Did iran really get 33pct of profits from anglopersian prior to nationalization? How does that compare to the economics inherent in current leases for example? That seems rather reasonable in a world where when the deal was originally struck (eg when churchill was first lord of the admiralty), the tech to extract oil was emybronic and the market was exceedingly uncertain and id imagine projected to be a fraction of what it turned out to be... This angle is entirely ignored in all this talk that implies a degree of exploitation by the english.
This is so badly edited. But more importantly if according to the Iranian constitution at the time the Shah could appoint and dismiss the Prime Minister, how was removal of Mossadiq a coup? Or was the real coup Mossadeq’s refusal to go a coup? 🤔
Also how can you say the resentment against the US still goes on in Iran? 🤦🏻
bit bad taste laughing while talking about 300 people dying.