Minor technical correction, shunts are not the only way to measure consumption. I've had a Hall Effect monitor for 2 years. It too is bluetooth but goes to a dedicated screen, which I find simpler. It has similar reporting and relay features for under $50 complete.
Oh we're ready, Gary! We're tied to SLC until the end of the month as we finish moving the final things out of our former home once some seasonal tenants move out, selling some things and storing others. Then it's travel time!
Marc, Once you have conditioned your average discharge rates to your Battery Mon, it would be nice to see how it calculates available charge remaining under current load conditions. That's when it becomes really meaningful. The two systems work incredibly well together. Thanks. Gord
If I'm going to be completely honest here, Gord, one of the issues was that I didn't turn on the "battery fuel gauge" prior to filming. 😊 But I'll do exactly what you suggest in our Community tab once we get back to boondocking.
@@GrandAdventure I like the setup. But for me, the new Ford Powerboost with 7.2kw onboard power generation solves all these issues. It uses the FordPass app with FordPass connect to accomplish all the connectivity. When the 3.5 Ecoboost fires up, you can hardly hear it. It is much quieter that most RV generators making it a viable option for boondocking. Plus, you get the use of your RV air-conditioner... a huge plus, especially if your working inside during the summer, like you do. Gord
@@GrandAdventure I forgot to mention that the engine starter is belt driven. It isn't like a standard electric starter motor that whines when it turns over. It just engages the belt drive attached to the crank shaft and turns over the engine silently. You don't even hear the engine start. Which means that when the regenerative electric motor in the transmission needs to start charging the onboard lithium ion battery, it does so without making much noise at all.
Hey Marc, did you consider the Victron BVM 712. We use it with our Victron 3000w inverter and our Color Control GX panel. This battery monitor does look pretty cool. I like the way it integrates with your RV Whisper system. Larry
We did consider the Victron, Larry, but we wanted integration with RV Whisper which the Victron cannot do. Also, holy cow that Color Control GX panel was awfully pricey when we looked at it.
@@GrandAdventure I figured it was something like that, the Whisper system does look cool. We got the Color Control Gx so that we could use the VRM to manage our system remotely from anywhere through the browser. The display is nice, it makes it really easy to check the system every morning, i spend too much time looking at my phone already, LOL. Larry
I am frequently surprised to see lots of expensive lithium ion battery, solar systems, and battery monitoring solution being presented. I bought 3 x 3y old used but tested lithium ion batteries (with 5 to 7y life left), 2 x 120w mobile foldable solar panels that I can place anywhere, 2 x $17 charge controllers, a $30 bluetooth battery monitor that connects to my cell phone, and self-wired everything to be able to charge either / or both at the same time my house batteries and / or chassis battery. And while not perfect, it works pretty well and I am happy. Total investment approx. $1,300.
That's terrific Marty! We all have our reasons for choosing what we do, the same way that some folks go out and buy a brand new diesel one-ton while someone else may want a used mid-size truck. We admire your ability to accomplish so much with so little investment.
Nice monitor and presentation. I'm also looking at the Victron 500A SmartShunt which is similar. I can see why you went the way you did for the integration with the Wnisper system. I looked at the mannual wiring diagram and it appears to have the shunt on the positive side of the ciruit rather than the negative side. I guess it would work but I have never seen that. Having all that exposed metal on the positive current doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I noticed you and The RV Addict wired the shunt on the negative side and it appears to work fine.
Thank you Bruce! Despite that wiring diagram in the manual the original Thornwave Labs PowerMon that we used can be installed on either side of the circuit, positive and negative, but its internal shunt has a limit of 60A which is why we chose the original PowerMon (to install on the negative side) but purchased an external shunt. They now also have available the PowerMon-5S www.thornwave.com/collections/smart-products/products/powermon-5s-bluetooth-battery-monitor-dc-power-meter-with-integrated-500a-shunt with an integrated 500A shunt that we initially planned to use because it will also integrate with RV Whisper, but the brain behind RV Whisper informed us that PowerMon-5S needs to be installed on the circuit's positive side. Knowing that, we chose the route that we did.
@@GrandAdventure I think you made the right choice. Seems to me they got things backwards on the 500 A model. I'm still hanging out on the BLM in beautiful Quartzsite. I went by your campsite yesterday and guess what, it was empty! The long term season ended on the 15th so most folks have left the building with Elvis. You will be pleased to know I did an internet speed test yesterday for Verizon and got 84 mbps download. Come on back!
A few questions. 1. I didn’t see in line fuses between the battery and shunt nor between the battery and PowerMon as suggested by the diagram on page 23. Are they needed? Does make it more complicated as I’m not ready to splice my battery cables. 2. What wire gage is acceptable from the Power Mon to the external shunt? 3. Will this work with two 12Volt batteries connect in parallel? Thank you for the video so far.
Dan, we didn't mount one between the batteries and shunt; however, we did mount resettable circuit breakers between our battery and inverter, and (subsequent to this video) between our solar panels and solar controller, and between our solar controller and our batteries. You only need small gauge wiring between the Power Mon and the shunt, as it carries little current and is a very short run. Yes, it will work with two batteries mounted in parallel. We actually now use it with four wired that way.
What you need even more is the watch RUclipsrs “DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse” Episode titled “Cold Temperature LiFePO4 Heater on a Budget! Beginner Friendly”. Fortunately for you went with Battle Born Batteries, so his suggestion would help you perfectly. Love your show, I live my dreams vicariously through your show. Thanks!
Thank you Delton! We are sure that we will. Actually, Will's videos were extremely helpful to us in deciding how we wanted to go with this setup. He does a fantastic job even if the information he provides occasionally goes over our heads. Will's teardown videos were instrumental in convincing us to avoid some cheaper Chinese battery alternatives, like Ampere Time.
How does the monitor know the sensitivity of the shunt to read correctly (mV/amps)? Shunt needs to be calibrated to get a linear output to calculate sensitivity. They are temperature coefficients that can effect the accuracy. Did you have to manually enter it?
Yes, on the configuration screen there's a place to enter the specifications of the shunt, including sensitivity and voltage range. That's all explained in the monitor's user manual www.thornwave.com/res/btdcpm_um.pdf if you're interested in taking a look at it.
The setup in the app is incorrect for your shunt (at least it was in the video) you need to adjust the shunt resistance and range based on your shunt. It's probably bidirectional 75 or 80mv and the manufacturer should have the resistance number or you can calculate it. As it sits you're not accurately measuring the input and output. It should show your effective range as around the shunt max amperage.
It is indeed bidirectional 75mv, but there's no such option in settings. The manual www.thornwave.com/res/btdcpm_um.pdf provides a configuration example on page 16 for setting the "Sense Resistor" and "Sense Voltage Range". However, one thing we didn't do until after filming was to set up the Battery Fuel Gauge, which was an absolute error on our part.
@@GrandAdventure good deal, it threw me off when I tested it initially with the default settings, I tested several known 20watt loads and saw that the wattage was off by a factor of about 15-20% adjusting the shunt resistance and range corrected it. I believe for your shunt it would be resistance of .15 as best as I can tell with ohm's law.
Jeff, Thornwave's prices have risen around $40 since we did this video. At the moment this setup would cost $139.99 plus an inexpensive shunt. However, the Thornwave uses Bluetooth, so the equivalent Victron unit would be the BMV-712 which is around $100 more, and not the BMV-700.
Can any bluetooth battery monitor be installed onto the Whisperer or only PowerMon? Did you take the negative from the closest battery of the three lithium batteries and did you also take your positive feed from the same battery? On the monitor I have (from a different manufacturer) it can have a feed from the positives of each of my two batteries. I’m not sure why since both positives go to the same place, unless it is just for somehow monitoring each battery. Thank you Marc. Ram 👍🏼👍🏽
Ram, the developer of RV Whisper has to a) have access to the Bluetooth communication protocol of the device to be able to program RV Whisper to work with it, and b) he has to write the programming for each of those devices. For that reason it presently works with just two devices for battery monitoring: the Thornwave PowerMon that's showcased here, and what RV Whisper sells as a "Battery Mole" which is a simple voltmeter. A voltmeter comes with the limitations explained in this video, so even though we have one we upgraded to the PowerMon in this episode. Our batteries are tied together in parallel, so it doesn't matter which battery we hook to the monitor -- the monitor sees all three separate batteries as one big battery bank.
@@GrandAdventure rvwhisper added more support. Current list is: RV Battery Sensors BV2 - Battery Voltage Sensor (DC Volts) Thornwave DCPM1-Thornwave DC Power Meter (2 DC Voltages, 1 DC Amps, Amp Hours, Temperature, Battery State of Charge SOC) Victron SmartShunt VSS1- Victron SmartShunt (1 DC Voltage, 1 DC Amps, Amp Hours, Battery State of Charge SOC) BMRV1- Battery Mole RV (DC Volts, Temperature)
We're still using this setup on a daily basis, Louis. However, when the HooToo router sold out when that video became popular we tried out this one amzn.to/3dPW5lv to see if we could recommend it and we actually prefer it. We now have two of these TP-Link units in the RV.
@@GrandAdventure I have 2 of the AC750 units, purchased to use as range extenders in a month-long airbnb stay a few years ago. We use rvwhisper but don't yet have a wifi setup in the trailer. I'm interested to figure out a good wifi and cell setup to get internet. Hasn't been top priority because we have mostly stayed in places where there is no cell coverage. Suggestions welcomed.
@@acarwile we actually have a RUclips Playlist devoted to that very subject: ruclips.net/p/PLjEHCrqmvs19Znos7nz8hGlwAUFVXjYUn By far the best thing ever for us has been Starlink, which we route through a Pepwave MAX Transit Duo for redundancy and failover. Starlink has completely changed the game for us.
My issue with the bluetooth devices is obsolescence, either planned or un-planned. Company goes out of business, so no upgrades to the app, you get a new version of Android or IOS and bam!!!! totally useless hardware. Company comes out with a new model, wants you to buy it, so they develop a new app, old one is obsolete, again, you are outta luck. Now, if you have a built in display, and possibly an app also, thats OK, the equipment is still useful. Other issue is having a bunch of apps. You got a Mopeka tank app (yes they have a bluetooth monitor too), and this power monitor app, and possibly an app to go with a Hughes portable EMS for your shore cord, possibly one or two more. Becomes kinda a PITA. Now, if someone would develop a single app that handles all of the common Bluetooth items in an RV, that would be great, even if you had to pay for it.
Charles, you raise a very good point in the first paragraph. I've got some confidence, however, in this case. Thornwave has been doing this since sometime around ~2017 or so, and this is their primary product. They've had some success with it so I believe that it'll be around for a while. As far as the second paragraph, that's where RV Whisper comes in. That ties everything together in one place: not only the Thornwave, but also the Mopeka, Hughes Power Watchdog and Mopeka too. It's the single app that handles all of the common Bluetooth items that you're wishing for.
More work and money than just installing an all-in-one device like the Victron Energy SmartShunt 500 amp Battery Monitor (Bluetooth). Not the best choice for viewers to look at. Hope you get good sponsorship money for this recording.
We used the Thornwave specifically for its integration with RV Whisper to have worldwide access to the data, whereas the Victron doesn't integrate with RV Whisper. We paid for the Thornwave, shunt, etc. out of our own pocket, so we must be pretty lousy businesspeople. 😉
@@GrandAdventure sorry look at your last 3 + videos it has nothing to do with any grand adventure at all! But like more of a info commercial I’m sorry I’m not a hater just disappointed good luck !
@@AA5MC Michael, we appreciate your feedback. However, as we've been explaining all winter we're stationary in winter. We stay in Utah to ski, just as we've done since long before the channel (or RVing) was even an idea for us. In past seasons we published lots of how-to, DIY and retrospective videos to get us through the winter months, and this season isn't any different. We'll be resuming travel at the end of this month. And for the record, nothing about the past 3 videos was a commercial because no one paid for the products we installed and explained except for us.
@@AA5MC Hey Michael, I enjoy the traveling and camping videos as well, but I also understand that he just bought a new trailer and he is basically getting it ready for “any grand adventure” that he is planning on going on in future and sharing with us in the upcoming videos. Ram
Why gets a thumbs down,? Because it’s the same Crap that’s why! Since Grand Adventure went full time the channel has changed and the idea of adventure is not a priority! It’s now a life style. For example: When we brought our horses home and not board them any longer thinking we would ride more wrong! We stop riding. this is the same thing . Sorry this is not travel channel anymore 😢
Michael, we appreciate your feedback. However, as we've been explaining all winter we're stationary in winter. We stay in Utah to ski, just as we've done since long before the channel (or RVing) was even an idea for us. In past seasons we published lots of how-to, DIY and retrospective videos to get us through the winter months, and this season isn't any different. We'll be resuming travel at the end of this month.
Also Marc, you folks just purchased a new rig and are outfitting it for your new lifestyle of full time Rving. The traveling will start soon enough. Can't wait. You do a great job of giving us the details of wherever you land.
I appreciate all Marc's content. Whether it's him being out and about or setting up to get ready to be out and about. It's all excellent content and if I don't like something there's always next week.
Nice job, more videos need to be like yours, assume viewers need every step of instruction with good illustration
Thank you Mike!
Thanks for the info. dBm is decibels referenced to a milliwatt, typical absolute power representation for an RF system.
Thanks for the clarification!
Minor technical correction, shunts are not the only way to measure consumption.
I've had a Hall Effect monitor for 2 years. It too is bluetooth but goes to a dedicated screen, which I find simpler. It has similar reporting and relay features for under $50 complete.
Interesting! We will have to read up more on that to become better educated. Thanks for sharing that!
Thank you so much for the fun video!! So important to know what’s left in the tank!
We're pleased that you found it useful, Darisan. As we said in the video, the key to resource management while boondocking is resource monitoring.
What a great device. May have to check it out. Thanks, Marc.
You bet Rob, glad that you found it interesting.
Great video Marc! Very helpful.
Very happy to hear that, Peter. Thanks for watching!
Interesting 🤔
Thanks again for an excellent video…
Thank you!!
Interesting video alot of information for your batteries, looks like a nice system, now it's time to hit the road and test it out .
Oh we're ready, Gary! We're tied to SLC until the end of the month as we finish moving the final things out of our former home once some seasonal tenants move out, selling some things and storing others. Then it's travel time!
Great video and very helpful.
Glad you think so, William! Thank you, and thanks for watching.
Marc,
Once you have conditioned your average discharge rates to your Battery Mon, it would be nice to see how it calculates available charge remaining under current load conditions. That's when it becomes really meaningful.
The two systems work incredibly well together. Thanks.
Gord
If I'm going to be completely honest here, Gord, one of the issues was that I didn't turn on the "battery fuel gauge" prior to filming. 😊 But I'll do exactly what you suggest in our Community tab once we get back to boondocking.
@@GrandAdventure I like the setup. But for me, the new Ford Powerboost with 7.2kw onboard power generation solves all these issues. It uses the FordPass app with FordPass connect to accomplish all the connectivity.
When the 3.5 Ecoboost fires up, you can hardly hear it. It is much quieter that most RV generators making it a viable option for boondocking. Plus, you get the use of your RV air-conditioner... a huge plus, especially if your working inside during the summer, like you do.
Gord
@@gorrdd there's no doubt that the new PowerBoost option from Ford is an interesting development for RV'ers.
@@GrandAdventure I forgot to mention that the engine starter is belt driven. It isn't like a standard electric starter motor that whines when it turns over. It just engages the belt drive attached to the crank shaft and turns over the engine silently. You don't even hear the engine start. Which means that when the regenerative electric motor in the transmission needs to start charging the onboard lithium ion battery, it does so without making much noise at all.
Hey Marc, did you consider the Victron BVM 712. We use it with our Victron 3000w inverter and our Color Control GX panel. This battery monitor does look pretty cool. I like the way it integrates with your RV Whisper system. Larry
We did consider the Victron, Larry, but we wanted integration with RV Whisper which the Victron cannot do. Also, holy cow that Color Control GX panel was awfully pricey when we looked at it.
@@GrandAdventure I figured it was something like that, the Whisper system does look cool. We got the Color Control Gx so that we could use the VRM to manage our system remotely from anywhere through the browser. The display is nice, it makes it really easy to check the system every morning, i spend too much time looking at my phone already, LOL. Larry
Nice information. Does this allow you to see the battery capacity remaining?
Yes it does, Michael, once you calibrate the device per the instructions included.
I am frequently surprised to see lots of expensive lithium ion battery, solar systems, and battery monitoring solution being presented.
I bought 3 x 3y old used but tested lithium ion batteries (with 5 to 7y life left), 2 x 120w mobile foldable solar panels that I can place anywhere, 2 x $17 charge controllers, a $30 bluetooth battery monitor that connects to my cell phone, and self-wired everything to be able to charge either / or both at the same time my house batteries and / or chassis battery. And while not perfect, it works pretty well and I am happy. Total investment approx. $1,300.
That's terrific Marty! We all have our reasons for choosing what we do, the same way that some folks go out and buy a brand new diesel one-ton while someone else may want a used mid-size truck. We admire your ability to accomplish so much with so little investment.
Where'd you get the Bluetooth battery monitor?
Nice monitor and presentation. I'm also looking at the Victron 500A SmartShunt which is similar. I can see why you went the way you did for the integration with the Wnisper system.
I looked at the mannual wiring diagram and it appears to have the shunt on the positive side of the ciruit rather than the negative side. I guess it would work but I have never seen that. Having all that exposed metal on the positive current doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I noticed you and The RV Addict wired the shunt on the negative side and it appears to work fine.
Thank you Bruce! Despite that wiring diagram in the manual the original Thornwave Labs PowerMon that we used can be installed on either side of the circuit, positive and negative, but its internal shunt has a limit of 60A which is why we chose the original PowerMon (to install on the negative side) but purchased an external shunt. They now also have available the PowerMon-5S www.thornwave.com/collections/smart-products/products/powermon-5s-bluetooth-battery-monitor-dc-power-meter-with-integrated-500a-shunt with an integrated 500A shunt that we initially planned to use because it will also integrate with RV Whisper, but the brain behind RV Whisper informed us that PowerMon-5S needs to be installed on the circuit's positive side. Knowing that, we chose the route that we did.
@@GrandAdventure I think you made the right choice. Seems to me they got things backwards on the 500 A model.
I'm still hanging out on the BLM in beautiful Quartzsite. I went by your campsite yesterday and guess what, it was empty! The long term season ended on the 15th so most folks have left the building with Elvis.
You will be pleased to know I did an internet speed test yesterday for Verizon and got 84 mbps download. Come on back!
@@bruceh3786 amazing what happen when the tower empties out. 😄
A few questions. 1. I didn’t see in line fuses between the battery and shunt nor between the battery and PowerMon as suggested by the diagram on page 23. Are they needed? Does make it more complicated as I’m not ready to splice my battery cables. 2. What wire gage is acceptable from the Power Mon to the external shunt? 3. Will this work with two 12Volt batteries connect in parallel? Thank you for the video so far.
Dan, we didn't mount one between the batteries and shunt; however, we did mount resettable circuit breakers between our battery and inverter, and (subsequent to this video) between our solar panels and solar controller, and between our solar controller and our batteries. You only need small gauge wiring between the Power Mon and the shunt, as it carries little current and is a very short run. Yes, it will work with two batteries mounted in parallel. We actually now use it with four wired that way.
What you need even more is the watch RUclipsrs “DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse” Episode titled “Cold Temperature LiFePO4 Heater on a Budget! Beginner Friendly”. Fortunately for you went with Battle Born Batteries, so his suggestion would help you perfectly. Love your show, I live my dreams vicariously through your show. Thanks!
Thank you Delton! We are sure that we will. Actually, Will's videos were extremely helpful to us in deciding how we wanted to go with this setup. He does a fantastic job even if the information he provides occasionally goes over our heads. Will's teardown videos were instrumental in convincing us to avoid some cheaper Chinese battery alternatives, like Ampere Time.
Will should not be your primary nor sole source of information; just a word of caution.
@@peterrocan2542 elaborating is always helpful when making a statement of this nature.
How does the monitor know the sensitivity of the shunt to read correctly (mV/amps)? Shunt needs to be calibrated to get a linear output to calculate sensitivity. They are temperature coefficients that can effect the accuracy. Did you have to manually enter it?
Yes, on the configuration screen there's a place to enter the specifications of the shunt, including sensitivity and voltage range. That's all explained in the monitor's user manual www.thornwave.com/res/btdcpm_um.pdf if you're interested in taking a look at it.
The setup in the app is incorrect for your shunt (at least it was in the video) you need to adjust the shunt resistance and range based on your shunt. It's probably bidirectional 75 or 80mv and the manufacturer should have the resistance number or you can calculate it. As it sits you're not accurately measuring the input and output. It should show your effective range as around the shunt max amperage.
It is indeed bidirectional 75mv, but there's no such option in settings. The manual www.thornwave.com/res/btdcpm_um.pdf provides a configuration example on page 16 for setting the "Sense Resistor" and "Sense Voltage Range". However, one thing we didn't do until after filming was to set up the Battery Fuel Gauge, which was an absolute error on our part.
@@GrandAdventure good deal, it threw me off when I tested it initially with the default settings, I tested several known 20watt loads and saw that the wattage was off by a factor of about 15-20% adjusting the shunt resistance and range corrected it. I believe for your shunt it would be resistance of .15 as best as I can tell with ohm's law.
A bit confused here. $150 for this system when the Victron Smartshunt is only $130. Why?
Jeff, Thornwave's prices have risen around $40 since we did this video. At the moment this setup would cost $139.99 plus an inexpensive shunt.
However, the Thornwave uses Bluetooth, so the equivalent Victron unit would be the BMV-712 which is around $100 more, and not the BMV-700.
How do you check current and other readings on the second battery bank?
Dave, we'd have to go back and check the manual as we haven't wired it for a second battery bank ourselves.
You don't. The only value you can monitor for the second battery is the voltage, shown as V2 in the app. All other values (current, etc.) apply to V1.
Can any bluetooth battery monitor be installed onto the Whisperer or only PowerMon?
Did you take the negative from the closest battery of the three lithium batteries and did you also take your positive feed from the same battery?
On the monitor I have (from a different manufacturer) it can have a feed from the positives of each of my two batteries.
I’m not sure why since both positives go to the same place, unless it is just for somehow monitoring each battery.
Thank you Marc.
Ram
👍🏼👍🏽
Ram, the developer of RV Whisper has to a) have access to the Bluetooth communication protocol of the device to be able to program RV Whisper to work with it, and b) he has to write the programming for each of those devices. For that reason it presently works with just two devices for battery monitoring: the Thornwave PowerMon that's showcased here, and what RV Whisper sells as a "Battery Mole" which is a simple voltmeter. A voltmeter comes with the limitations explained in this video, so even though we have one we upgraded to the PowerMon in this episode.
Our batteries are tied together in parallel, so it doesn't matter which battery we hook to the monitor -- the monitor sees all three separate batteries as one big battery bank.
@@GrandAdventure rvwhisper added more support. Current list is: RV Battery Sensors
BV2 - Battery Voltage Sensor (DC Volts)
Thornwave DCPM1-Thornwave DC Power Meter (2 DC Voltages, 1 DC Amps, Amp Hours, Temperature, Battery State of Charge SOC)
Victron SmartShunt VSS1- Victron SmartShunt (1 DC Voltage, 1 DC Amps, Amp Hours, Battery State of Charge SOC)
BMRV1- Battery Mole RV (DC Volts, Temperature)
Are you still using your Hutu wireless Wi-Fi and if so are you happy with it or have you moved on to something newer?
We're still using this setup on a daily basis, Louis. However, when the HooToo router sold out when that video became popular we tried out this one amzn.to/3dPW5lv to see if we could recommend it and we actually prefer it. We now have two of these TP-Link units in the RV.
@@GrandAdventure I have 2 of the AC750 units, purchased to use as range extenders in a month-long airbnb stay a few years ago. We use rvwhisper but don't yet have a wifi setup in the trailer. I'm interested to figure out a good wifi and cell setup to get internet. Hasn't been top priority because we have mostly stayed in places where there is no cell coverage. Suggestions welcomed.
@@acarwile we actually have a RUclips Playlist devoted to that very subject: ruclips.net/p/PLjEHCrqmvs19Znos7nz8hGlwAUFVXjYUn
By far the best thing ever for us has been Starlink, which we route through a Pepwave MAX Transit Duo for redundancy and failover. Starlink has completely changed the game for us.
My issue with the bluetooth devices is obsolescence, either planned or un-planned. Company goes out of business, so no upgrades to the app, you get a new version of Android or IOS and bam!!!! totally useless hardware. Company comes out with a new model, wants you to buy it, so they develop a new app, old one is obsolete, again, you are outta luck. Now, if you have a built in display, and possibly an app also, thats OK, the equipment is still useful.
Other issue is having a bunch of apps. You got a Mopeka tank app (yes they have a bluetooth monitor too), and this power monitor app, and possibly an app to go with a Hughes portable EMS for your shore cord, possibly one or two more. Becomes kinda a PITA. Now, if someone would develop a single app that handles all of the common Bluetooth items in an RV, that would be great, even if you had to pay for it.
Charles, you raise a very good point in the first paragraph. I've got some confidence, however, in this case. Thornwave has been doing this since sometime around ~2017 or so, and this is their primary product. They've had some success with it so I believe that it'll be around for a while.
As far as the second paragraph, that's where RV Whisper comes in. That ties everything together in one place: not only the Thornwave, but also the Mopeka, Hughes Power Watchdog and Mopeka too. It's the single app that handles all of the common Bluetooth items that you're wishing for.
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More work and money than just installing an all-in-one device like the Victron Energy SmartShunt 500 amp Battery Monitor (Bluetooth). Not the best choice for viewers to look at. Hope you get good sponsorship money for this recording.
We used the Thornwave specifically for its integration with RV Whisper to have worldwide access to the data, whereas the Victron doesn't integrate with RV Whisper. We paid for the Thornwave, shunt, etc. out of our own pocket, so we must be pretty lousy businesspeople. 😉
How did you get a “thumbs down” before you’ve even shown the video.
I’ll give you a “thumbs up” and cancel it out.
Ram
It happens every week. Haters will be haters.
@@GrandAdventure sorry look at your last 3 + videos it has nothing to do with any grand adventure at all! But like more of a info commercial I’m sorry I’m not a hater just disappointed good luck !
@@AA5MC Michael, we appreciate your feedback. However, as we've been explaining all winter we're stationary in winter. We stay in Utah to ski, just as we've done since long before the channel (or RVing) was even an idea for us. In past seasons we published lots of how-to, DIY and retrospective videos to get us through the winter months, and this season isn't any different. We'll be resuming travel at the end of this month. And for the record, nothing about the past 3 videos was a commercial because no one paid for the products we installed and explained except for us.
@@AA5MC
Hey Michael, I enjoy the traveling and camping videos as well, but I also understand that he just bought a new trailer and he is basically getting it ready for “any grand adventure” that he is planning on going on in future and sharing with us in the upcoming videos.
Ram
Why gets a thumbs down,? Because it’s the same Crap that’s why! Since Grand Adventure went full time the channel has changed and the idea of adventure is not a priority! It’s now a life style. For example: When we brought our horses home and not board them any longer thinking we would ride more wrong! We stop riding. this is the same thing . Sorry this is not travel channel anymore 😢
Michael, we appreciate your feedback. However, as we've been explaining all winter we're stationary in winter. We stay in Utah to ski, just as we've done since long before the channel (or RVing) was even an idea for us. In past seasons we published lots of how-to, DIY and retrospective videos to get us through the winter months, and this season isn't any different. We'll be resuming travel at the end of this month.
Also Marc, you folks just purchased a new rig and are outfitting it for your new lifestyle of full time Rving. The traveling will start soon enough. Can't wait. You do a great job of giving us the details of wherever you land.
I appreciate all Marc's content. Whether it's him being out and about or setting up to get ready to be out and about. It's all excellent content and if I don't like something there's always next week.