I love when your students are in my age or older. It gives me hope that my golfing time is not over and I still have many more years to golf and that you still can improve your swing.
Jeff - You worked very hard during these two hours. Keep at it. Once you finally feel it you will wonder why it was so hard and your swing will be the envy of all your buddies for the rest of your life.
At one point when he's handed the orange whip (feels more like a club than the rope) he says to the Doc; "I feel wild." That's because he's been trying to steer the club down the target line, like almost everyone does. I'd love to see the Doc and @HolyGrailOfGolf do an hour-long clinic together. Two of the best - coming from different angles - instructors I've ever seen. By about 33:55 the rope work has him directing fluid energy at the 7 o'clock position without him being told to do that. Same result, different ways to get there.
This guy is impressive at 72. Still in great shape and now that he's being Kwonified, he will be hitting it 40 yards longer than the other retired guys he plays with!
I'm really enjoying these videos. Dr Kwong has so much knowledge and experienced it's staggering. He gets right to the point and wastes no time. Also want to comment on this students amazing fitness and swing for a man 72 years of age, wow.
Fascinating how each video is slightly different. While the good doctor's goal and high level principals for each person are always the same, but invariable each person needs a slightly different adjustment. Also fascinating how the doctors advice, if taken in a vacuum, could be contradictory, but that's simply because each person may be doing the wrong thing, but from direct opposite ends of the spectrum. For example, some people on the downswing don't shift to the left enough, while others shift too much. Eventually (if we watch enough of the good doctor's videos and practice his drills) we will all get better, slowly but surely. Unfortunately, experimenting at home/range never beats seeing the good doctor in person.
@@geoffbaker8139 As I get older - I am always looking to improve but one of the primary interests is developing a swing that protects me from injury - like Dr Kwon has said all speed/power comes from interaction with the ground - everything else is manipulation - and those manipulations cause injuries
dr kwon, did u use Mike Austin in any of your analysis early on? i’m watching old teaching videos of his and they pretty much match with your moment patterns. very interesting especially the push and turn . his protege even used happy gilmore as an example
During warm ups before the session, I was averaging just under 250 yards. Now I'm averaging 270 yards. I am working on 2 swing issues. The first is getting rid of old swing components. inside takeaway, lateral move on the downswing and an exaggerated wrist cock. The second is is incorporating Dr. Kwon's swing mechanics. Moving away from the old to the new does not happen without significant effort. The feel of the shot as I get closer to the new swing though is amazing. Can't wait for this summer !
@@geoffbaker8139 wow answering questions directly from the man of the hour! I am 75 years old golfer and extremely impressed by your answers. I appreciation the fact that exploring your new and improved swing was quite a task and hopefully you will take it to the golf course this spring. All of us regardless of age want more distance in our swing without sacrificing accuracy. What I have leaned from watching DrKwon teach you and many others are specific ways to incorporate ( through his various steps and drills) how our body must move in the order to use effective ground forces at play during an actual golf swing. Correct? I think the bottom line is that golfers must focus on two shift and turn swings: Shift and turn on the backswing and then shift and turn on the downswing. However isn’t the key to a successful shifts and turn is that our body must do both exactly at the same time? Have you mastered this double compound move yet? And can you do with your different irons compared to your driver? After watching Dr Kwon videos and seeing an old video from Gary Players telling us that our naval area including our abdominal and oblique muscles groups must play a key role in everyone of our golf swings; I personally feel I am good to go come this spring. And I am hoping to lower my handicap as well. Cheers 😃⛳️👍🥂
Dr Kwon, after watching hundreds of hours of your videos over this year and practicing almost daily (I am retired so am time rich) I think I have a pretty good idea of what is required to reprogram my swing to be to be more of a shun rhythm body driven swing. However, in far away New Zealand, working on your own with out your expert eye and guidance I can assure your viewers that, if they are anything like me, this is a VERY slow process. My understanding is that the hips and shoulders must rotate continuously without stopping to take advantage of the additional muscle power available from a rapid stretch-shorting cycle. To some extent this conflicts with your instruction to let the backswing mature and “spend more time up there”. Am I correct in believing that I should wait at the top of the backswing until I feel the shoulders reverse rotation due to the lead leg action turning the hips? The timing of the re-centreing and lead leg kick them needs to be such that the shoulders do not stop moving at the top of the backswing.
you're over thinking it, use the rope drill to help with the timing and tempo. It shouldn't be a slow process, I've helped some friends with these drills and it takes one or two range sessions, and they've increase their swing speeds by over 10mph.
The time you have at the top is actually used to prepare the body for the DS. Slight re-centering and dropping of the lead side occurs during a mature transition. The golfer can also develop a substantial amount of torque by using the ground in this phase.
@@drkwongolf I had a sneaky feeling you have helped a few, your ability to demonstrate a true swinging motion is blatant to me. Keep up the hard work because your defiantly making a difference.
My old swing path fights with the new movement for dominance. I ended up muscling the swing to help get the movement right which defeats the whole idea. It also wore me out. Watching the video again and doing the reprograming over allows me to muscle less and move more as the reprograming intended. I am committed to the Dr. Kwon's process and am excited to work through this. Fun !
@@geoffbaker8139 Geoff, Have you had any problem with early extension while trying to incorporate Dr Kwon's movements into your swing? (I'm approximately your age and build. I've always had and early extension issue and think that following Dr Kwon could actually make it worse.) Thanks.
@@ln5738 I have a tendency to set up with the ball too far away. The club sets up inside the ball at address. I am trying to correct this. This can lead to early extension, though it has not been a problem for me. Starting the downswing like starting a motorcycle and the feeling of the left leg rotating counter clockwise ( not sliding) gives me plenty of room for the right hip to drive forward without extension. It also helped to blend this new leg power with my old power source (hips, core and shoulder) so the power works as one unit
I love when your students are in my age or older. It gives me hope that my golfing time is not over and I still have many more years to golf and that you still can improve your swing.
How awesome is it that a man who is 72 yrs old - and above average player is working hard at getting better - I love it
Jeff - You worked very hard during these two hours. Keep at it. Once you finally feel it you will wonder why it was so hard and your swing will be the envy of all your buddies for the rest of your life.
At one point when he's handed the orange whip (feels more like a club than the rope) he says to the Doc; "I feel wild." That's because he's been trying to steer the club down the target line, like almost everyone does. I'd love to see the Doc and @HolyGrailOfGolf do an hour-long clinic together. Two of the best - coming from different angles - instructors I've ever seen. By about 33:55 the rope work has him directing fluid energy at the 7 o'clock position without him being told to do that. Same result, different ways to get there.
This guy is impressive at 72. Still in great shape and now that he's being Kwonified, he will be hitting it 40 yards longer than the other retired guys he plays with!
The amount of mental focus and physical effort that Geoff puts in is unbelievable
I'm really enjoying these videos. Dr Kwong has so much knowledge and experienced it's staggering. He gets right to the point and wastes no time. Also want to comment on this students amazing fitness and swing for a man 72 years of age, wow.
I wish I could do the same thing in 11 years. ^_^
Fascinating how each video is slightly different. While the good doctor's goal and high level principals for each person are always the same, but invariable each person needs a slightly different adjustment. Also fascinating how the doctors advice, if taken in a vacuum, could be contradictory, but that's simply because each person may be doing the wrong thing, but from direct opposite ends of the spectrum. For example, some people on the downswing don't shift to the left enough, while others shift too much. Eventually (if we watch enough of the good doctor's videos and practice his drills) we will all get better, slowly but surely. Unfortunately, experimenting at home/range never beats seeing the good doctor in person.
The good doctor has excellent mimetic skills as well as outstanding observation ability.
Cheers
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Great work Jeff, The Doc didn’t go easy on you and if you’re like me you wouldn’t want him to
34:00 this must be a real work out after all. But glad to see the effectiveness of it.
At 1:46:16 Dr Kwon shows us how we all swing - really funny
^_^
Doesn't the shift and turn (shurn) move the arms and hands? In other words, body is the engine.
Yes. The body first! You can add the arm/wrist motion later to fully use the mobility allowed.
Don’t know about you Jeff but I’m ready for a rest, put the orange whip down and take a breather. Swing is looking great, how as your game changed?
Swing has improved. Using the lower body gives a more consistent swing. Arms still try to sneak in. Improved distance as well with less effort
@@geoffbaker8139 As I get older - I am always looking to improve but one of the primary interests is developing a swing that protects me from injury - like Dr Kwon has said all speed/power comes from interaction with the ground - everything else is manipulation - and those manipulations cause injuries
dr kwon, did u use Mike Austin in any of your analysis early on? i’m watching old teaching videos of his and they pretty much match with your moment patterns. very interesting especially the push and turn . his protege even used happy gilmore as an example
No, but several people mentioned him before.
Hi,Dr.Kwon. I have been waiting videos of you teaching people about my age. Can you tell me Jeff’s driving distance after you trained. Thanks.
During warm ups before the session, I was averaging just under 250 yards. Now I'm averaging 270 yards. I am working on 2 swing issues. The first is getting rid of old swing components. inside takeaway, lateral move on the downswing and an exaggerated wrist cock. The second is is incorporating Dr. Kwon's swing mechanics. Moving away from the old to the new does not happen without significant effort. The feel of the shot as I get closer to the new swing though is amazing. Can't wait for this summer !
Your reply give me great encouragement. Thank you so much.
Bravo!
@@geoffbaker8139 wow answering questions directly from the man of the hour!
I am 75 years old golfer and extremely impressed by your answers.
I appreciation the fact that exploring your new and improved swing was quite a task and hopefully you will take it to the golf course this spring.
All of us regardless of age want more distance in our swing without sacrificing accuracy.
What I have leaned from watching DrKwon teach you and many others are specific ways to incorporate ( through his various steps and drills) how our body must move in the order to use effective ground forces at play during an actual golf swing. Correct?
I think the bottom line is that golfers must focus on two shift and turn swings: Shift and turn on the backswing and then shift and turn on the downswing. However isn’t the key to a successful shifts and turn is that our body must do both exactly at the same time?
Have you mastered this double compound move yet? And can you do with your different irons compared to your driver?
After watching Dr Kwon videos and seeing an old video from Gary Players telling us that our naval area including our abdominal and oblique muscles groups must play a key role in everyone of our golf swings; I personally feel I am good to go come this spring. And I am hoping to lower my handicap as well. Cheers 😃⛳️👍🥂
Jeff is gonna ache in the morning
^_^
@@drkwongolf I started to ache on the flight home. It was more than worth it. Swing has really improved
Dr Kwon, after watching hundreds of hours of your videos over this year and practicing almost daily (I am retired so am time rich) I think I have a pretty good idea of what is required to reprogram my swing to be to be more of a shun rhythm body driven swing. However, in far away New Zealand, working on your own with out your expert eye and guidance I can assure your viewers that, if they are anything like me, this is a VERY slow process.
My understanding is that the hips and shoulders must rotate continuously without stopping to take advantage of the additional muscle power available from a rapid stretch-shorting cycle. To some extent this conflicts with your instruction to let the backswing mature and “spend more time up there”.
Am I correct in believing that I should wait at the top of the backswing until I feel the shoulders reverse rotation due to the lead leg action turning the hips? The timing of the re-centreing and lead leg kick them needs to be such that the shoulders do not stop moving at the top of the backswing.
you're over thinking it, use the rope drill to help with the timing and tempo. It shouldn't be a slow process, I've helped some friends with these drills and it takes one or two range sessions, and they've increase their swing speeds by over 10mph.
The time you have at the top is actually used to prepare the body for the DS. Slight re-centering and dropping of the lead side occurs during a mature transition. The golfer can also develop a substantial amount of torque by using the ground in this phase.
How much lateral movement should there be in the backswing?
not as much as the before swing shows
As much as you feel comfortable as long as the sequence is right (shift first and turn).
Have you ever taught a major champion or gave a lesson to one.
Several came to the Lab actually over the years. The most recent one is I think Hideki Matsuyama in 2019.
@@drkwongolf I had a sneaky feeling you have helped a few, your ability to demonstrate a true swinging motion is blatant to me. Keep up the hard work because your defiantly making a difference.
He’s running out gas. That’s a lot of swings for somebody that’s 72
I agree. ^_^
My old swing path fights with the new movement for dominance. I ended up muscling the swing to help get the movement right which defeats the whole idea. It also wore me out. Watching the video again and doing the reprograming over allows me to muscle less and move more as the reprograming intended. I am committed to the Dr. Kwon's process and am excited to work through this. Fun !
@@geoffbaker8139 Geoff, Have you had any problem with early extension while trying to incorporate Dr Kwon's movements into your swing? (I'm approximately your age and build. I've always had and early extension issue and think that following Dr Kwon could actually make it worse.) Thanks.
@@ln5738 I have a tendency to set up with the ball too far away. The club sets up inside the ball at address. I am trying to correct this. This can lead to early extension, though it has not been a problem for me. Starting the downswing like starting a motorcycle and the feeling of the left leg rotating counter clockwise ( not sliding) gives me plenty of room for the right hip to drive forward without extension.
It also helped to blend this new leg power with my old power source (hips, core and shoulder) so the power works as one unit
Are you recommending going past horizontal in the actual swing on the course or just as a training device with the step drills?
In the actual swing on the course.