Sony 135 1.8 GM Review - Bokeh King or Money Pit?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июл 2020
  • Sony pulled out all the stops and made what is arguably their current flagship lens, the 135 1.8 GM. But how does it hold up? Is it all hype, or is it the bokeh monster everyone's been hoping for? Let's find out!
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  • @WesPerry
    @WesPerry  4 года назад +6

    I guess I need to elaborate on my AF assessment. First of all: I had no issues with it at all. It was great! Excellent even! Just not “the very best”. That’s all. Just not a full 10/10, which you should know by now is very uncommon for me to award.
    It Would have been a 10/10 had it not been so common for other reviewers to say it’s the very best of any lens Sony makes, forcing me to compare it to the whole lineup. Otherwise I would have compared it just to prime portrait lenses and it would have won handily. But AF is a very broad subject, and incredibly variable depending on the situation.
    Additionally, I tested it on not just the a7Riv, but also on the a9 and the a7iii. I just used only image samples from the a7Riv.

    • @simonp8088
      @simonp8088 3 года назад +2

      Which lens would you say is a 10/10? Not trying to troll, just wondering as a way to normalize your reviews and to give me a comparative baseline.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад +2

      It’s pretty much impossible to get a 10/10 in AF, because it seems that there are always trade offs of some kind.
      I gave the 35GM a 9.5. It’s much faster than the 135GM (almost apples to oranges, since it is much easier to accomplish at that focal length, though). It lost a half a point due to the excessive focus breathing unfortunately. Otherwise it would have been a 10. Silent and effortless.
      The 35 1.4 ZA was once ranked as a 10, but I have since lowered it to a 9. (I update my spreadsheet as time goes by and comparisons and standards change). It was one of the first Sony lenses with their direct drive motor, and compared to any other wide aperture lens it was bonkers good. No one had done near instant AF in a wide aperture lens like that before.
      But now that sort of thing is more common, and the 35 GM is even faster.

    • @simonp8088
      @simonp8088 3 года назад +1

      That is a swell answer. Also because i have the 35gm. Thanks!

  • @kucekto
    @kucekto 4 года назад

    Long waited for this review! Thank you very much.

  • @channkrp
    @channkrp 4 года назад

    Really appreciate the honest review Wes.

  • @WilliamLesourd
    @WilliamLesourd 3 года назад +7

    The 135 GM f1.8 is my favorite lens so far. I use it particularly to create panoramic landscapes (with up to 8 vertical shots stitched together). So sharp with a great color rendition. As far as autofocus is concerned, I sometimes miss the focus on moving subjects, but I believe it’s because I haven’t found the best focus setting for the lens yet. It’s expensive, but worth every cent.

  • @ShaneBethlehem
    @ShaneBethlehem 4 года назад +9

    I have watched/read many reviews of people praising this lens and it is so hard to find an honest opinion on it, thanks for a great video as always! you had some sweet sweet 85 shots also in this vid

    • @sjm.photos
      @sjm.photos 4 года назад +2

      check out my channel i have also shot some reviews on the 135gm vs the sigmas. and honestly love the 135gm i personally think its worth every penny. but everyone has different views.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +5

      Always ready to pepper other/unrelated videos with 85GM shots 😂

    • @sjm.photos
      @sjm.photos 4 года назад +1

      @@WesPerry i never used the 85mm gm but had the batis which worked well. but its ergonomics were terrible all slippery so hard to even undo it to remove it from the camera sometimes.

    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen 4 года назад

      I agree; I think that there must be a strong psychological compulsion to comply or at least connect one's views with those of other reviewers - yet Sony are masters of salesmanship and many reviewers are either ambassadors or very sweetened, so it becomes too convenient for them to praise uncritically. This is why analysis and journeys of perspective are more significant than conclusions.

  • @simonp8088
    @simonp8088 3 года назад +2

    Hey Wes, i like your haircut. It’s the same as mine! Great job!
    Oh and thanks for the lens review. You’ve kind of grown on me like a fungi. Good job!

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад +1

      I am a pretty fun guy 😂

  • @TW-iu9zy
    @TW-iu9zy 4 года назад +7

    ... great review, Wes. 👍🏻 It is one of the best lenses I ever use. And it‘s in the same class with the 20/1.8 G or the 24/1.4 GM. I use the 135/1.8 for my for my journalistic work, perfect.

  • @jimmyqballs
    @jimmyqballs 3 года назад +3

    I love this lens to bits! I used it a lot for sports. Football, soccer, indoor track, wrestling, basketball and hockey, and the autofocus with the a9 and even a7r iv was amazing. Even at iso 12,800 1/1000th it would find faces in basketball, and had no issues staying locked onto fast moving hockey players as they swung by me (I usually sit in the penalty box for a period or two)

    • @novljanin
      @novljanin 6 месяцев назад

      do u think that they are better than 70-200mm f4 II?

    • @novljanin
      @novljanin 6 месяцев назад

      well i do video mainly, so versaility of 70200 is for me win
      @@jimmyqballs

  • @kylewolfe_
    @kylewolfe_ 3 года назад +1

    Hey what's up Wes! I had no idea you're on RUclips. I was looking through reviews of this lens and clicked on this video without checking the channel name. As soon as you sat down I was like "Wow no way is that Wes Perry?!" Good to see more of your content. I was impressed with the production quality. Hope all is well man!

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад +1

      Haha yeah, I’ve been hanging out here for a while now ;)
      Nice to see you here finally! 😂

  • @MrTroglog
    @MrTroglog 3 года назад +2

    I shot a beach volleyball tournament with the 135 gm the photo's were amazing

  • @jarrod7465
    @jarrod7465 2 года назад +6

    I'm glad you said what I was thinking. I don't like how clinical this lens is. Also the bokeh tends to cats eye A LOT. I know it's subjective but I want round soft bokeh. I own the 85 GM and it's my favourite lens, purely because it renders better backgrounds and circular bokeh throughout the frame. I think a lot of reviewers get caught up on "sharpness" being the most important thing. In reality it's like third or fourth on the list for me. Basically all modern professional lenses are sharp enough.

  • @christophkolberg4458
    @christophkolberg4458 2 года назад

    Nice review and very honest. After some month of 135GM usage, I really feel with you. The 85GM is sort of magical. The 135GM is just a super perfect lens. The 85GM has character, also my 35 1.2 Sigma. I miss this on the 135GM and also on my 50 1.4 SonyZeiss.

  • @felixbrandau4751
    @felixbrandau4751 2 года назад

    I love that you talk about character it’s the most important thing for me

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  2 года назад

      Not enough people do, in my opinion!

    • @felixbrandau4751
      @felixbrandau4751 2 года назад

      @@WesPerry For sure. I love zeiss lenses for their 3d pop.

  • @ak4939
    @ak4939 3 года назад

    I had the A-mount version of this lens and loved it. I will be getting the E-mount as well. Appreciate your thoughts on it.

    • @MrRalboi919
      @MrRalboi919 2 года назад

      I have the Zeiss Sonnar 135mm 1.8za with the LA-EA5 adapter paired with a Sony A7RIV its a beast still and it has character, but thats subjective lol

  • @PH61a
    @PH61a 3 года назад +1

    By far my favourite lens!! To me it has enough 'character' and it's the best 135 out there too.

  • @denisj13
    @denisj13 4 года назад +1

    Great review as always. I’m also using 135gm+A7R4 and the quality of the image is so superb.
    Btw, what’s your thoughts on the new 12-24gm? Do you see yourself using 12-24gm over 16-35gm for your type of work? 12mm seems interesting but I feel like it’s going to require a lot of creativity when it comes to portraits and such.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      I haven’t used it myself, but from what I’ve seen, although it’s an amazing new class of lens, the image quality is slightly below that of the 16-35GM. Which only stands to reason, really, as it must be incredibly difficult to create such a lens.

    • @David.1984
      @David.1984 3 года назад

      @@WesPerry just FYI, according Marc Alhadeff reviews on A7R4, the 12-24GM F/2.8 is sharper than 16-35GM F/2.8
      sonyalpha.blog/2019/11/10/which-lenses-to-maximise-the-potential-of-the-sony-a7riv/

  • @lassepetersen684
    @lassepetersen684 4 года назад

    There it is, finally the 135 GM review :)
    Nice work! I enjoyed your brave but honest review. While i personally am not with you on your points about the image character and the auto-focus speed of the particular lens. I respect that you keep things honest and that you stick to it.
    On a side note I must say that i miss the kitchen setup! You sitting down in that dark couch does not come across in the same homey manner as before.
    But I am looking forward to your opinion on the A7RIV, no matter the "studio" ;)

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      I’m still evolving the studio look. It got put on hold when covid started.
      And I definitely don’t expect people to agree with me on everything. A lot of subjectivity goes into a photography review. That’s one of the most fun parts of the hobby/profession ;)

    • @lassepetersen684
      @lassepetersen684 4 года назад +1

      @@WesPerry
      Do not get me wrong, the quality of your videos are persistently brilliant and i love them :D
      You are absolutely right about the subjective part of reviews and i respect you sticking to your honest opinion, it makes it even more worth while watching.
      Keep on the good work, am looking forward to the opinion about the A7RIV as i have been eyeing that camera myself :P

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      Subjectivity will continue during that review. It’s a camera designed for some pretty specific use cases ;)

  • @zgravity00
    @zgravity00 4 года назад +3

    I could not justify my purchase because of the price. But last month I found a barely used second hand 135mm gm lens at $1550, and I snatched it within a nano second! $1550 is a lot of money for many of us, it gives me great pleasure when shooting with this lens.
    I also love how this lens has practically zero CA.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      That’s a pretty sweet deal!

    • @PH61a
      @PH61a 3 года назад

      @@WesPerry I bought it for €1489 new last December...

    • @jimmygimbal
      @jimmygimbal 3 года назад +1

      I waited and waited. Got a brand new one for $1400 off of local sales.

  • @robertbohnaker9898
    @robertbohnaker9898 Год назад

    Ok Wes. Your comments “ Not the fastest , not the best” perked my interest. So I’m very interested to know what is your favorites that you didn’t mention. That would be very interesting and most helpful. Thanks 😊

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  Год назад

      Presently I would put the 35GM and 70-200GMii pretty far ahead of it.
      Ag the time I even found the original 70-200GM was superior in AF in a lot of applications. (Some say it was lacking, but I found it was much better at long and fast focus pulls than the 135)

  • @Carlos_Vasquez
    @Carlos_Vasquez 3 года назад

    Awesome!

  • @35mmraw
    @35mmraw 4 года назад +1

    Great review WP. I have this lens coupled with the A9. My only problem with this lens is the serial number is a sticker, and despite my care is starting to peel. Pretty silly. Otherwise, if the focal length is where you need it, and you're undeterred that the lens it too clinicy (technically too perfect), it's an amazing piece of gear.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      Yeah, that’s annoying about all the Sony camera gear. I wouldn’t know what half my serial numbers were if I didn’t have them written down.

  • @sheldonang2193
    @sheldonang2193 3 года назад

    How would you rate the bokeh and image quality of 135 at F1.8...vs the 70-200 GM at 135mm and F2.8...is it noticeably different?

  • @stefan_becker
    @stefan_becker 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great review! This is exactly the feeling that I had when using this lens. I prefer the focal length and rendering of the Sigma 105mm 1.4 over the 135mm GM. If the Sigma 105mm only wasn't that large and heavy! Because of this weight issue the 135GM usually is in my bag instead of the Sigma 105mm 1.4.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      Although I haven’t used the Sigma 105, from what I’ve seen, I definitely agree. Love the character of all the images I’ve seen. But that massive front element makes it a super unbalanced and unwieldy lens!

  • @artmaltman
    @artmaltman 4 года назад

    Superb review and comparisons, thank you. For rendering beauty, check out the Samyang 85mm f/1.4 AF FE. Gorgeous, IMHO. As for the 135mm, well that focal length does have more compression (more "flat") than the 85mm. Oh yeah, be sure to check out the new Tamron 70-180mm f/2.8. I'm getting gorgeous images with it, and the background is almost always creamy and awesome, but not always; sometimes a bit rocky though, still have to figure that one out.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      My Tamron review might be ready next week! 😉
      And yeah, I’m a bit on the fence with the background rendering. The bokeh is unexpectedly busy at times, but super creamy at other times. The copy I have, at least, has some really ugly bokeh balls when you look super close. But so do the 55 and 35 Sony/Zeiss lenses and no one ever cares. Haha.

  • @ZadieBear
    @ZadieBear 4 года назад +1

    135 is not a focal length i use a lot, so i ended up buying the Batis 135 when it was on sale last fall for $1300. For everything I use 135 for, the Batis is a perfect compromise. I do have the 85GM, which is perfect for me. Another focal length i shoot portraits at is 200....i use the Canon 200 2.8L w a metabones adapter....AF isn’t great but the sharpness is good and bokeh is better on my A7R3.

  • @antdx316
    @antdx316 3 года назад +1

    You are definitely an 85mm shooter. Those were some epic shots at 6:10-6:25. The 135mm GM is made for headshot photos. For interior/exterior, 12mm-14mm are best for obvious reasons.

  • @reallukx
    @reallukx 4 года назад

    Wes, any chance to hear your take on new sigma 100-400 vs sony 100-400 ?

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      I’m afraid I don’t have a take there. Haven’t heard enough about the Sigma, and they’re both outside of my wheelhouse for photography, so I likely won’t be getting my hands on either of them any time soon. Sorry!

  • @keithsmathers9815
    @keithsmathers9815 4 года назад +5

    I love this lens for sports action photography. My 70-200 GM has been resting while I use this lens exclusively for mtb and motocross. 85 GM fails due to AF. I will add the Sony 85 f1.8 for when I get too tight on shots. f1.8 is much better than f2.8 for my work. I tried f1.4 with GM but just too shallow a depth of field for my liking with sports. My photo sales have gone up considerably since using it over the 70-200. Character value for me is 10.

    • @themarksmanABP
      @themarksmanABP 4 года назад

      hey, any way to see examples of your sport images with this lens? are you on instagram?

    • @keithsmathers9815
      @keithsmathers9815 4 года назад +1

      @@themarksmanABP @keithsmathers

    • @keithsmathers9815
      @keithsmathers9815 4 года назад

      @@themarksmanABP ht
      tps://instagram.com/p/CBgQ3DNH4L-/

    • @sheldonang2193
      @sheldonang2193 3 года назад

      How would you rate the bokeh and image quality of 135 at F1.8...vs the 70-200 GM at 135mm and 2.8...is it noticeably different?

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen 4 года назад

    Useful and interesting review. It sounds like 135mm is too graphically-rendered for your taste - probably the slight volume that 85mm still has left helps lift the subject how you like it. Roger Ciccala had some interesting notes about this lens and the Sigma relating to how different lenses change sharpness according to the resolution/frequency of the camera - as I recall, he found that the Sigma was better suited to higher frequencies and resolution. I just watched an amazing seminar with Leica's lead optical designer on the Leica Singapore channel, which you may wish to check out.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      That does sound interesting!

  • @cstone710
    @cstone710 3 года назад

    This lens is much sharper then the 85 GM might want to revisit that comparison.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      Maybe I got a bad copy (I don’t think I did), but in the center they’re very similar. At least when pixel peeping on the a7Riv.

  • @bhaskarpatel7233
    @bhaskarpatel7233 3 года назад +1

    Nice..Sunrise films

  • @grapesfarming9976
    @grapesfarming9976 Год назад +1

    Please give review on Sigma 135

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  Год назад

      I’d expect a new DN version Sigma 135 fairly soon (entirely new optical design), and am waiting for that to appear before begging for a loaner from somebody…. Anybody? Haha

  • @paulfoster5648
    @paulfoster5648 4 года назад

    How would this compare to the sigma 105 mm f1.4 in crop mode giving an aperture of F2 using the A7R4 (which is what I went for)?

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      They’re both very clinical in their rendering, and similarly excellent in optical performance. I find I prefer the look of the 105, though. It’s a bit more distinctive. That’s a subjective opinion, though.
      The 105 is a much more unwieldy lens, very front heavy by comparison to the 135GM. Where you would have the greatest gains with the GM is in AF. The Sigma just can’t touch it. Most other portrait lenses can’t. It’s a shame I was forced to compare the AF to sports lenses (due to the dozens of people who insisted it should be one), as otherwise it would have been a 10.

  • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
    @youuuuuuuuuuutube 4 года назад +1

    About the AF, did you use the A7R IV instead of the A9? People who claim it's a sport lens are using the A9 with it.
    For example, the 200-600 doesn't work well with the A7R IV at all, but works great with the A9.
    Just wondering if you've also used the A9, because I think that whenever you test AF, you should eliminate any potential bottleneck, so, use the fastest camera available, and same for testing IQ, the camera with the highest resolution should be used.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      Yeah, I did try it on the a9, and although it was of course a bit better, it still wasn’t “the best”. Just of the lenses I’ve used, I would put the 55 1.8, 35 1.4, 70-200GM, and 16-35GM above it for AF responsiveness.
      Don’t get me wrong, it’s great, especially for a wide aperture portrait lens. I just don’t think it’s “the best” 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @joegophotos
    @joegophotos 3 года назад

    So what would you say is the best lens (great bokeh) to pair with the A9 - just getting into portrait photography so want something versatile, snappy, super sharp with good bokeh - price not an option

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      Probably the new Sigma 85 DN Art. I don’t find 135mm to be a terribly versatile focal length, but that definitely a matter of opinion.

  • @anafishing946
    @anafishing946 3 года назад

    Recently got one, when you detach it from camera body, do you feel some inside parts are moving back and forth when you shake it? I am not sure it is a defective or the new linear motor unit.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      Yeah, mine did that, too. I think that’s just the way it is.

    • @anafishing946
      @anafishing946 3 года назад +1

      @@WesPerry Thank you for reply!

    • @joe2snj
      @joe2snj 3 года назад +2

      The 20mm f1.8 G does the same, its due to the focus mechanism being on rails for very very fast back and forth movement rather than the more traditional circular methods of moving the optical elements.

  • @sjm.photos
    @sjm.photos 4 года назад +1

    owned sigma 135 and now the sony 135gm also used and compared and reviewed on here the 105 sigma and the sony 135gm is just a win win best lens ive ever used. hardly comes off my camera . sony 135gm eye af in almost complete darkness was just nuts when i couldnt even see the models face. its a professional lens and i think unless you have the spare budget or are earning plenty its a lens most people wont go for. as it is a premium lens

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      It’s hard to beat native glass for AF. I doubt there’s a wide aperture Portrait Lens that does better AF.

    • @sjm.photos
      @sjm.photos 4 года назад

      @@WesPerry using it for wildlife and products aswell it is brilliant especially on the a7riv

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      Sorry to say I had a different experience there. Found it to be just a little slower than I’d like on the a7Riv. For me, compared to the 70-200 on the a9 it’s just not even close. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @sjm.photos
      @sjm.photos 4 года назад +1

      @@WesPerry the af system on the a9 is twice as fast though different beast

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      Yeah, another misconception I’m tackling in my next video. I’ve heard SO MANY PEOPLE say the AF in the a7Riv is “basically the same” as the a9....yeah it’s great, but that’s a big ol nope. Haha

  • @joakimolsson1024
    @joakimolsson1024 4 года назад

    Current best value seems to be the Samyang AF 85mm f/1.4. I'm not a hardcore portrait shooter but i love the look of this lens!

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      I prefer the rendering (and the price!) of the Viltrox 85 1.8.

  • @sailing619
    @sailing619 3 года назад

    6:09 Is the water fountain real? It looks not in the same line with the couple?

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      It is quite real yes. It’s just that they’re edge lit with a flash, so they’re popping more. The water is also back lit with the flash to make the droplets show. It was quite a dreary day, so I needed to give it some kick.

  • @TreParker2016
    @TreParker2016 4 года назад +1

    100 percent agree with your observations after using this lens for runway low light I just couldn’t justify the cost of this lens. It just isn’t consistent enough as it should be; I have used it with iv and the riii and it’s clinical. I got a great bargain on the Zeus batis 135mm and OMG but it kills this lens people give it a hard time because of its cost, but I was fortunate to get the 135 brand new at 50% of the cost and I’m so glad I didn’t buy this lens.

    • @PH61a
      @PH61a 3 года назад

      I guess you're one of the few that prefers the Batis over the GM. I myself wouldn't change my 135GM for that Batis, no way. I 'only' paid €1489 for the GM so the difference is not that much. But hey: everyone is free to choose :-)

  • @thinkinginpictures4071
    @thinkinginpictures4071 3 года назад

    Yep, 70-200mm all the way. If you need the 135mm FL, the legendary 135mm 1.8 ZA is now an incredible value. Not as sharp wide open, but IMO still wins in overall rendering.

  • @aiseurnae5976
    @aiseurnae5976 3 месяца назад

    I agree with most you said. And yes, as opposed to most people say, this is not the sharpest Sony lens, by exemple my 35mm GM is sharper wide open.
    However I think the 135mm GM has a lot of "POP" (if POP refers to the ability of the lens to make the subject stands out, like if it was cut and pasted to a background).
    I use the 135mm GM and the 85mm GM since a very long time and to my eyes, the 135mm GM has much more POP. Mainly because the lens is sharper wide open and the OOF are not as smooth as the 85mm GM.
    Also, the 85mm GM, again to my eyes, has much nicer colors and tones, nicer bokeh, more sense of volume and more delicate local contrast. The 135mm GM is sharper, especially wide open, has faster AF, higher contrast and almost zero CA.
    In my opinion, the 135mm GM is a boring lens, it's an almost perfect lens for test charts with almost zero character. The 85mm GM on the other hand is a magical lens.
    However, lenses like the 85 and 135mm batis have better local contrast and colors.

  • @stevekupris4133
    @stevekupris4133 3 года назад

    How's the sharpness compared to the MF Samyang 135mm f2 UMC?

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      I don’t personally know, but I’ve heard some people (who I wouldn’t necessarily trust) say the Samyang is sharper, and some people (who I Would likely trust) say the Sony is pretty clearly sharper.
      Not to say the samyang isn’t sharp. It’s just this particular lens is kindof next level in its sharpness and edge to edge consistency.

  • @erickyanez6297
    @erickyanez6297 3 года назад +1

    Great review! Thanks. I have been craving for a "nice" 135mm since I switched from Nikon. This was a focal length very popular in the yesteryear of film photography. All manual, sharp, small and cheap. And many with very interesting "character" in their images. Seems Sony just went for sharp, sharp, sharp, sharp... Kinda disappointing. Since I really want autofocus and a relatively light set up my best bet is adapting the Canon 135 f/2.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад +1

      There’s also the Batis 135 2.8 if you want small and light ;)

    • @erickyanez6297
      @erickyanez6297 3 года назад

      @@WesPerry Yep. Only thing it's a full stop of less light, and for a f/2.8 it's mighty expensive.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад +1

      Well, you Were looking for smaller and lighter. Hehe
      The price is indeed a bit much, though. Such is the blue badge tax.

    • @erickyanez6297
      @erickyanez6297 3 года назад

      @@WesPerry Hahaha... True, we can't get everything we want, he. I had very high hopes on this lens, but the performance, price, and weight... Anyway, great review. I appreciate the info you put out there so we can make informed decisions ;-)

  • @PhotoTrekr
    @PhotoTrekr 4 года назад +1

    I hope it's for me. I just ordered one.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      😬🤞🏻😂

    • @PH61a
      @PH61a 3 года назад

      You won't regret it for one second...

  • @terencemorrissey4413
    @terencemorrissey4413 4 года назад +1

    Sounds like the 85mm F/1.4 and 70-200mm F/2.8 would be a good combination for portraits

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      That’s definitely a personal preference. I don’t use a 70-200 much. Usually just during outdoor wedding ceremonies and sports. For portraiture I almost exclusively use the 85 1.4 and sometimes the 16-35GM.

    • @terencemorrissey4413
      @terencemorrissey4413 4 года назад

      Wes, what aperture would you use for headshot type portraits ? At F/1.4 or F/2 both eyes and tip of nose won’t be in focus. I did a Pikto workshop in 2013 with portrait photographer V. Tony Hauser and he wanted to see both eyes to the tip of the nose in focus. F/1.4 or F/2 works with little kids since their face is so small.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      Aperture varies depending on the look I’m going for. Anywhere from f/1.4 to f/8
      For standard business-style headshots, I won’t usually go any wider than 2.8. For fun stuff I’ll often do 1.4. For fashion style, more like f/5.6 to f/8

  • @joegophotos
    @joegophotos 2 года назад

    Is ti worth it to buy it used for $1600 ? I have a Sony A1

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  2 года назад +1

      Umm, yeah, that’s a decent price.

    • @TheSpaceBrosShow
      @TheSpaceBrosShow 2 года назад +1

      @@WesPerry Just got one for 1425. Ayyyyy

  • @afonsosantos8364
    @afonsosantos8364 4 года назад

    If you allow ElectronicFrontCurtain to be/stay ON then the bokeh will suffer a bit. Try again with EFC off

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      Oh I’m quite aware of this. Any time my shutter speed was over 1/250s I turned it off.

  • @arize84
    @arize84 4 года назад

    This is a solid and balanced review. I eagerly anticipated the release of this lens and was hoping it would retain the character of the Sony A mount 135mm (what I still believe is the best 135mm ever made). I was disappointed by the severely clinical and modern look of the new lens. I now keep an adapted canon 135L for my 135 needs. Sure the Canon is long in the tooth, not nearly as sharp, vignettes like crazy and has quite a bit of chromatic aberration; but it's portrait lens and perfection is far from necessary, what is more important is that it have a beautiful and engaging imaging to its character rather than come across as a very well spec'd engineering product.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      The million dollar question is (or is it the $3000 question?) , can you have a “modern lens” with great image quality and still have amazing character as well?
      The 85 GM comes the closest for me. But it’s still a bit dry. Then there’s the 55 1.8, which is essentially the classic lens perfected. Very sloppy rendering, exceeding sharp, great character. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @arize84
      @arize84 4 года назад

      @@WesPerry Funny enough, the lens that does it for me is the Sigma 105 (assuming you can get past the ridiculous size). It's too sharp and too contrasty (both issues can be solved in post) but rendering is so beautifully done. That said, it could simply be that I just really like how 105mm renders rather than anything Sigma did.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      I almost mentioned that one. I’ve never used it, but I’ve loved everything I’ve seen from it.
      I’d find it way too awkward, though, I think.
      At least that’s what I keep telling myself 😏

  • @GilbertTV
    @GilbertTV 4 года назад +2

    im waiting for the new Samyang 135mm... sadly Sony one out my price range ..

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      Out of Most people’s price range.

    • @sjm.photos
      @sjm.photos 4 года назад

      the old samyang mf lens is gorgeous to use i had it before remember and it was producing lovely images but it wasnt easy but it did slow shoots down somewhat. here is my wales video when i did a shoot in the mountains. ruclips.net/video/e2CCWTpkqzI/видео.html

  • @MyBernis
    @MyBernis 4 года назад

    Autofokus is different on the A7r IV compared to the A9 - and the 135mm is a sports lens compared to any other normal focal length lens. On my A7r IV the Auto-Focus is really not that good. But this is due to the camera as the 135mm shines on the A9.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      I guess I should have noted in the AF section that I did try this lens on not only the a7Riv, but also the a9 and the a7iii. I just pulled all my image samples from the a7Riv.

    • @MyBernis
      @MyBernis 4 года назад

      Hi Wes, and you experienced also issues on the A9? I have the original A9 and the 135mm GM is by far the best autofocusing lens I ever used. Unfortunately I do not have the 400 and 600mm but from all others this is the best. And I use it for everything which could be fast. Dogs, kids, sports etc. The lens never let me down and is reliable all over.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      I think you must have misunderstood my AF assessment if you think I had “issues”. There were no issues at all. I just didn’t find it to be “the very best”. That’s not an issue, it’s just...a thing. Haha

    • @MyBernis
      @MyBernis 4 года назад

      Ok. I do find it the very best. At least in the Sony lens lineup. What lens is better performing ?

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      I find the 55 1.8, 35 1.4, 70-200 2.8, and 16-35 2.8 to all be a little better in general. I haven’t tested Every lens in the lineup, though. But they all have their strengths and weaknesses (which would take many thousands of words for me to totally elaborate on).

  • @wadeduvall7026
    @wadeduvall7026 3 года назад

    I wonder if the AF would be better on the A9...

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      I did test it on the a9, and it is just a little bit better than on the a7Riv. Again, not bad at all, just not mind blowing ;)

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      For instance, if my son is on the swing, swinging toward me and away, it can’t keep up at all. Whereas the 70-200gm, 55 1.8, 35 1.4, 16-35GM on the a9 mostly keep up in that super challenging circumstance. (Just of the lenses I’ve extensively used).

  • @oriomenoni7651
    @oriomenoni7651 4 года назад

    I'm still waiting for an 85/1.2 Sony.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      YESSSSS

    • @ralphtime
      @ralphtime 3 года назад +1

      It’s probably gonna weigh more than that 70-200. 🤣 but ima still ready for it.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      Da bull more than the Tamron 70-180, at least 😏
      (But I guess I’m holding out for the Sigma. The Tamron doesn’t quite do it for me).

  • @likeris2
    @likeris2 Год назад

    I do street photography with Canon 1dx 24mm f1,4 II and I want Sony a7c with 135mm f1.8 GR for my video.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  Год назад

      Some people are quite pleased with the Samyang 135 1.8 as well! Autofocus not as reliable, though.

    • @likeris2
      @likeris2 Год назад

      @@WesPerry I am not intrested in samyang.

  • @rizatamin
    @rizatamin 4 года назад +2

    Im dying for the 85mm GM mark II with newest AF motor.i really miss using that focal length but i guess im stuck with 70-200 GM for now 😔 i could get the 85 1.8 which is fast but i want that 1.4 bokeh from the GM..

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      I was going to say that in the video but skipped over it. There’s a rumor that it’s going to be the 85 1.2 GM 😳

    • @rizatamin
      @rizatamin 4 года назад

      Wes Perry i hope sony release their lens roadmap like other manufacturers to keep their users excited but too bad they’re still clueless on how marketing works these days 🤔

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      Yeah for some reason they seem to have given up on issuing roadmaps. I guess they figure they have enough lenses now and don’t need to bother.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      The fact that they haven’t done a “development announcement” or “early look” at the a7Siii and a7iv yet to counteract the R5 hype boggles my mind. Those are probably 99% finished at this point and just in final testing.

    • @TW-iu9zy
      @TW-iu9zy 4 года назад

      Wes Perry ... so, you waiting for the new a7s? Are you satisfied with the specs that are now leaked on SAR?

  • @ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck
    @ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck 4 года назад

    Bought an 85 1.8 and use it on my Sony A6600. Same effect

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      Not Quite the same. That would be the equivalent of 127mm f/2.7

    • @ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck
      @ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck 4 года назад

      @@WesPerry i thought it's only the focal length and not the aperture?

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +2

      It’s both. Everyone forgets about aperture, though.

    • @ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck
      @ChoicesHabitsAttitudeLuck 4 года назад +1

      @@WesPerry never thought your still awake it's 430am here in Regina LOL

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +2

      I don’t sleep much. I have a newborn. 😒😂

  • @kagisokeitheile6341
    @kagisokeitheile6341 4 года назад

    I’ve seen reviews bout 70-200 GM focus issues. Fro and Manny say it back focuses

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      I can only speak from my own experience, but I can’t say I ever had that issue with it. Perhaps it was solved with a firmware update before I got my hands on it (they reviewed it probably a year before i did and it’s now on V5 firmware).

  • @86BBUB
    @86BBUB 3 года назад

    Nice review. Piano is super annoying.

  • @afonsosantos8364
    @afonsosantos8364 4 года назад +1

    Also hope you don't mind a bit of (unsollicited but bruttaly honest) advise: your studio work shows your relative lack of studio experience, I wouldn't post too much of it for a while longer ;-)

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      I knew those pics would draw some “hope you don’t mind” people out of the woodwork 😂
      I was in someone else’s studio and didn’t really have control over the lighting. Just taking pictures for comparison/image samples at that point. There are other, better shots from that shoot being saved for the a7Riv video. (Even then, not a lighting setup I would have used myself).
      But then again, “better” is quite subjective ;)

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад

      I will, however, concede the obvious: I’m vastly more experienced with couples and environmental portraiture than I am with individuals in the studio. Which is one of the reasons why I was in the studio of/with one of the top portrait photographers in eastern Canada for that shoot. 😉
      I’m sure the image samples he’ll come up with will be significantly better than mine 😏

  • @cstone710
    @cstone710 3 года назад

    Stop down the worlds sharpest 135 1.8 lens to get the most out of it? You dont spend 2k on this lens to stop it down!!

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      Just saying it gets even sharper when you stop it down! I wasn’t blown away by the sharpness wide open as people made it sound. Only marginally sharper in the center than the 85GM wide open, if at all. Away from center it quickly outpaces the 85 though.

    • @PH61a
      @PH61a 3 года назад

      To my experience it's as sharp as it can get at f1.8. Check this crop: www.flickr.com/photos/heuts/49825655247/in/dateposted-public/ Click on the photo to enlarge it even more! Here's the non cropped version: www.flickr.com/photos/heuts/49825334656/in/dateposted-public/

  • @navis5284
    @navis5284 3 года назад

    Money pit... Owned and sold. Not much character to this lens. Technically nice lens; and boring.

  • @Mikeyyshoots
    @Mikeyyshoots 4 года назад

    First

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  4 года назад +1

      Feels like it's been a while. haha

    • @Mikeyyshoots
      @Mikeyyshoots 4 года назад

      Wes Perry it has been

  • @jharvell1166
    @jharvell1166 3 года назад

    The 135 Gm is garbage....

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      That’s quite the hot take.
      Care to elaborate? 🤔

    • @jharvell1166
      @jharvell1166 3 года назад +1

      Wes Perry I’m only messing around. The 135 GM is amazing. I had a wave crash into my camera bag. All my Sony and Sigma lenses where sitting in water. The only lens that didn’t survive was the Sigma 105.

    • @WesPerry
      @WesPerry  3 года назад

      Well okay then. Haha