India is not China's enemy. Don't worry. China develops advanced weapons to make Uncle Sam more peaceful. China suffered a century of humiliation in the past (1840-1945). China wants to make sure that she will not be humiliated again in the future.
I m a Malaysian. Do you know that China brokered peace between Saudi and Iran？ 1. USA, not China, is the threat of the world nations. Since the end of WWII to 2001, roughly 248 military conflicts occurred in 153 regions around the world, of which the US waged 201, accounting for 80 percent of all wars worldwide. China has traded with SE Asian for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another. When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan conquered China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire. Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium. After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government: 1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free. 2. Make opium legal in China. Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French, with supports from the US and Russia from behind, started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor. In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance(Japan, Russia, Britain, France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris. In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone. Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles. Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his famous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from. In just 30 years, the CCP have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height. For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported.
Exactly well said..! China were attacked, colonialized, humiliated, robbed and burned, brutally attacked and occupied by Japan's aggression; including most of currently ASEAN countries, etc. China is saying no more being or facing threats, containment or surrounded anymore. China has the universal rights of self defense.
China’s this great leap doesn’t happened in overnight, in last couple of decades China spend massively in their Education sector that’s why China first became superpower in technology & manufacturing and now with same educated and skilled workforce China started to dominate in Defense sector too, today China’s education budget is nearly 900 billion dollars where India spends roughly 60-70 billion dollars on education, how supposedly we can match China terms of technology. ?
it never was part of india.. So india worry about china taking back the land india's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin in TheWire South Tibet was illegally annexed by India and illegaly renamed as Arunachal Pradesh by India. It must be returned by India to the Tibetans and China
The more Indians speak negatively about China, the more jealousy it shows, why? Lots of intelligent Indians, build your own. The jealousy is so obvious and pathetic.
@@jteeezy275 indeed! Look at Indian politicians in the diaspora speak - they are full of European colonial mentality. Too jealousy of China while worshipping Europeans (USA, UK, Australia or Israel). What have Indians learnt from Ukraine war with Russia? Nothing at all
I am very curious, what is India worried about? India is not China's strategic opponent now, at least in the next 30 years. What India needs to do now is industrialization, not a high-level arms race with China. India is not qualified to have a high-level arms race with China.
It is because of extreme jealousy and delusion on the parts of endia. endia believes they are "superpower", far more superior than China. Whereas China believes they are still a "developing country". But reality is the total opposite.. and as deluded as endians are, some still have some sense of reality.. and the reality is that China is way more superior than endia. Hence this makes many endian feeling bitter.
There's no race but you guys have occupied Indian territory and have been threatening to occupy more territory. So, the fear is absolutely justified. In 1960s when the Highway construction in Aksai Chin by CCP was raised by India, CCP leadership actually apologized and said they will work towards solving the "confusion". Then they visited India said"we are brothers" and there's no dispute to the Indian territories. Very next year, CCP forces attacked India and dislodged Indian position from Aksai Chin. India lost the war. China lost world's trust.
@@dkq986 Are you lying or is it your government? Or is it your textbooks? In 1962, it was India's so-called "Forward Policy" that violated Chinese territory. From the perspective of China's interests, India's high arms race with China is in line with China's interests. Please continue.
India wants to be a target for China to feel super important!!! Why else do they think China needs 6th gen to threaten Indians in their sandals 😂😂 It's a message to the West and India thinks China is talking to them specifically 😂😂😂 Indian cringe it's like when someone pretty waves in your general direction and you wave back and then you find out it's someone more handsome and capable behind you 😂😂😂
@@wionporky9937 In fact China wanted collaboration several times in the history. Indian leaders (Slaves in fact) was always motivated by the west in term of Superpower. They never realised that the west won't allow anyone to take their position. They used and are using India to prevent China to takeover the west. And in future if India could able in autonomous development, Pakistan and Other countries will be used to stop India. That's the case for the west. Unfortunately Indians can't realise the fact.
The best response for India to take is to shut up its mouth for the next 50 years and come out with some revolutionary systems to show then, may be there is a chance. Rest assured that other nations ain't sitting on the fence waiting for India too. Secondly, China's quantum leap in tech snd defence/offence aint aim st India as many Indian media wish to portrait. India has to work hard for it and not by just talking. Anyway, why India is so arrogant and hostile towards China over the border issues which is the remnant of past colonial power's greed and imperialism. Even the disputed border lines have a English name, McMohon Lines, to start with, not Indian. Thirdly, there are just too many BS made and fed to the public by Indian past and present leaderships over the border issues. And with the western propaganda often in play to the western agenda, and not Indian again. Hence, everything has became so complicated and a matter of national pride nowadays regardlessly. Guess China is more composed, calm, rational, consistent and decisive on the matter. But India has the opposite by constantly stirring national emotions and confrontations to WIN votes and elections. Hence, a lot of harsh talks, chest beating and hostility made but without much positive results but otherwise or missing of opportunity for a Win-Win scenerio in India's quest for industrialization. A typical Trademark of India, it seems.
When China does something significant, the Indian media especially, will be jumping up and down. It's as though China is focusing its every effort on India, in the minds of most Indians. I think it is due to an inferiority complex that keeps getting worse with each advancement China made. Talk is cheap. Like you said, they should stop talking and start the difficult task of getting down to serious work.
Very well said. That's exactly what I wanted to say. I'm tired of explaining or arguing with my fellow Indians regarding their anti China stand and obsession. China never considers India as their rival or enemy. It is we Indians, totally brainwashed by our government and western propaganda, that keep talking about China and keep portraying as villain. Thank gawd recently many people came to the realisation that there is no comparison and we are more at fault.
Its funny because what happens inside is clearly has a co-relation with what you can do outside. There seems to be less inside problems when your capability to do things outside increases.
As usual the democracy system is the most corrupted, deceptive and manipulative. Politicians need to up the ante and also divert their citizens from real issues.
India illegal occupied South Tibet, Ladakh and other parts of China, Tibet. India is an aggressive country that also illegally occupied Kalapani of Nepal. The media and other social platforms always talk of fighting the Chinese since they were defeated in the 1962 border clashes. This seething injury still hurt their hearts. They are unwilling to negotiate for peaceful settlement even when Zhou En-Lai offered the exchange of South Tibet (Arunachal Pradesh) for Asai Chin. Now again, they planning to increase their military capability,
@@jameschu512 obviously, you are not Indian. Most Indians wouldn’t know that China was willing to trade south Tibet with Indian’s claim of Aksai Chin before but now it is off table. China will not recognize Indian occupied south Tibet even if they give up their claim.
@@jameschu512 obviously, you are not Indian. Most Indians wouldn’t know that China was willing to trade south Tibet with Indian’s claim of Aksai Chin before but now it is off table. China will not recognize Indian occupied south Tibet even if they give up their claim.
Even per capita GDPwise, India is only 1/5 of China’s, but India has always spent way much more on military percentage GDPwise comparing to China, UK 2.3% or France 2.1%, The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute calculated India’s defense expenditure at 2.4% of GDP in 2023. “By comparison, China, with its much larger economy than India’s, spends about 1.7% of its share of GDP on defense,” India has become a country of war monger, yet to see what’s has lagged behind with China lost counts including some of which the global GDS network, ISMB, nuclear reaction tech, Hypersonic missiles, drone techs, robotics, AIs, 3d printing, space techs are all far behind, even the electricity required to run a wind tunnel like CHina’s JF 22 the world’s fast speed wind tunnel, which will reach Mach 30, that’s the backbone of all aviation vehicles development including 6th gen fighter, space craft, hypersonic missiles, air freighter like Y-20 or Y-40, domestic plane like C919 or 929, even us ‘s wind tunnel can reach Mach 5 only now, Chinas power generations is 2 times of us, plus all the infrastructures like HST net work, Bridges, green energy, tunnels, highways, fully automatically run sea ports ,even China’s shipping building capacity is 232 times of US, India has raised too high a bar to catch up with the most advanced fields of CHina, and the world’s most advanced, by looking at the host and guests, they all speak English, a language of their old master, the colonized,none of them even speaks Indian at all, that’s a clear sign of least self respect lacking(or is there a unified language for Indians to speak besides English?) i bet lots of the development China has made includes domestic and foreign educated intellectual asset’s devotion, i rarely see any India’s students studied abroad willing to return to India after graduation, yet China probably has a 98% return rates of US educated students after graduation, comparing with Indians, the smartest one obviously don’t love India at all. Indian are clearly braggarts, not diligent builders ,you reap what you sow.
No worry. India has Tejas, the most advanced stealth fighter jet in the world. We hear a lot and continually people discussing about the Tejas. But the stealth technology of this fighter jet is so advanced that only very few people see it flying and we are uncertain about their credibility.
World Ranking : No 1. India No 2. India Delhi No 3. India Mumbai No 4. US No 5. Russia No 6. Japan No 7. France No 8. Australia No 9. Israel . . No 33. China
To even suggest India to catch up or be on par with China is fanciful. India mindset are entrenched when it comes to quality or production. They have no pride in their work ethic. But Indian pride are pure mystery
and then dont know how to make and then talk more about aquisition as if some one is ready there and giving bharath what ever it wants lol useless engineers for starters
You can't dig well when you are thirsty. You have elected anti national Govt for decades I.e. Congress. Their interest never to make Country strong and even made secret pact with enemycountry. Now when problem is on door step everyone is cocky. You will reap what you sow. Don't complain start doing what you can.
India needs a style of gov't the unites its people, not a political system allows for one party to use religion to pit on group against another. Or you need a new leader that unites its people, invest in education, development, etc. Unfortunately, when this gov't is in power, they might not be in power after their term is up. 💡
Just send in a request to King Charles…we miss the good old colonized days….we all can speak English as our first language…..take us back. Bye bye Mahatma!
Not only military advancement. Their incredible infrastructure, it’s subways , high speed rail , 5G networks ,its non cash economy, its EVs , drones , robodogs, robots, highways , nuclear power , solar ,etc etc etc. And lately Deepseek which is their very impressive AI model that outperformed US AI models that has better GPUs and excessive budgets. Cmon even US is falling behind , just visit a first tier Chinese city V US, it’s not even close.
@ You mean India still has a caste system , corruption , a wide disparity in wealth and is at least 50 years behind China and the gap is growing. Look at the pollution levels of Chinese cities 30 yrs ago compared to today and look at Indias deadly smog. India has a long long way to go , China has been a non cash economy for more than a decade now. Have you even seen their cities - go look at Indian vlogs of their travel experiences in China.
India is not fixing its problems like Largest Population , Largest corruption, Largest environmental pollution, road Infrastructures a good example can be Chennai Banglore highway such a problem
China shares borders with 13 countries and has settled their border issues peacefully except with India. It is time to negotiate a peaceful settlement.
India immediate needs is to grow its economy since it opines that China military build up is to deter US adventurism over Taiwan. To join in an unnecessary arms race with China simply not to feel left out will retard India economic growth. What does India have which makes China wanting* to invade it???? Pride, ego or self glorification???
Lol Indian immediacy = to Western immediacy = 100yrs from now 😂🎉🎉 and they still wonder why China has overtaken them by having meetings about China catching up or rising for about 70yrs!
India has a world richest family, so the people are happy with that. the most important things for Indians to worry are developing the world most powerful military.
India should focuses more effort on solving it's own internal problems rather than constantly making comparison itself with china and boasting itself no 1.
China and India lack mutual trust is more on the India side rather than China side. Contrary to many Indian's believe, China does not have much hostility against India. But India is hostile against China. India pulls out from RCEP in last minute because of China, India is against Belt and Road initiative because of Pakistan, India actively joins US's effort in containing China. India has to think hard on what is the most pressing issue for India: Is it the risk posed by China's rapid development or is it the lack of desired progress of India's economic development. Regardless how much military budget India plans to increase, India will not be able catch up with China because China GDP is 4.5 time of India. Back 40 years ago, right at the beginning of China's economic reform, Deng Xiaping decided to cut the military budget by half despite facing the threat from Soviet Union and had a border war with Vietnam. Things gradually improved since that time. India can take a lesson from that.
India should be more understanding of why China wants to make sure it never again gets humiliated by the white west in particular. I am a black African woman and I grew up feeling India could be a country that was more on the side of the global majority and the global south....... But alas me and my family have now come to the conclusion that India is the west's poodle, the yes man of the west in asia. On the other hand I now see China as being on the side of the global majority. I have even told my Indian friends this. I never imagined that India that was itself once colonised would stoop so low as to become America's henchman in asia.
These jokers are discussing whether China is a threat to India.. Please stop all these illusions that India is a superpower, and to compare India with China is an insult to China because China is on another level, whereas this India is comparable with Pakistan or Zimbabwe... The Himalayas are a natural barrier for both countries to wage any war against each other and to fight over a barren .desolate and frozen land is stupid strategy and senseless.. India should get rid of the shackles of colonialism and demand the returm of treasures..jewelery..and gold amounting to 45 trillion dollars and claim the reparation costs inflicted by the British during its colonial era on India instead of arguing and trying to project and flex its military muscles which in fact it has none against China.. These jokers look so stupid and naive discussing about China threat..
Pulling down India's reasons: No 1. Democracy No 2. Rahul Gandhi disturb Modi No 3. No water No 4. No air to breath No 5. No enough rest No 6. Quarrel with with wife at home before leaving house to work No 7. No electricity No 8. China No 9. Xi Jin Ping disturb India
Indians can only sing and dance. Oh, take some peg of alcohol, some try to establish foreign philosophy some struggle to keep own identity. Everyone barks more does less. This is India 😂
The best strategy for India is to make friends with China. By so-called increasing defense budget, improving government efficiency will not narrow the gap between India and China simply because India is far behind China in terms of infrastructure, long-term planning. Today even the US is way behind China in hypersonic technology. Therefore, India should have self-awareness, don't try to always compare it with China.
China is only developing its own military. Why is India's reaction so great? In China's eyes, there is no India. India still needs to develop its economy well, and don't indulge in the dream of a superpower. China's economy is five times that of India, and it is a world industrial power, accounting for 35% of the world's industry. Now it is impossible for India and China to compete.
'contested borders', the borders were carved out by the colonial Britain for the creation of india without tge consent of the Chinese. What is there to contest? Britian took Chinese land in creating India. Return it.
Indians should not be alarmed at the development of China military technology as they are designed to counter US aggression planning to play the Taiwan card. These military gears are purely self defense and never in its plan for invading India. India should cooperate with China on technology grounds as shown by the coherent relationship between US and EU. Built a strong Asia market together, defence together for the people instead of giving the west the gaps to disrupt Asia rise in next 10 to 30 years.
India should focus more on domestic issues, including women's rights, public health, equitable education, and environmental pollution. Once these issues are resolved or show significant progress, the nation's overall strength will greatly improve. At that point, advancements in military capabilities will naturally follow.
India is certainly not china’s enemy. In fact, they should be friends. India suffered more than hundred years of humiliation from the British too. Unfortunately, India seem to have forgotten about it.
Don't you think this program is simply a waste of time? In industrial production of practically anything, India is not within anything within the next 3 decades!
I think India does not need to spend money on the development of aircraft engines, but how to quickly build toilets, manufacture chips, manufacture locomotives and wheels for high-speed railways, and how to mass-produce shoes, toys, furniture, etc. A fourth-rate country always worries about what first-rate countries do. India is a country that is strong in empty talk, weak in practical work, and does not know itself, and has mysterious self-confidence.
India please don't be concerned about China's military’s superpower. China is not a threat to any country. I would be concerned if I was an American Pentagon official 😂
India don’t worry regarding China…china is not a colonizer in nature & will never be one…in the history of China there’s never be a nation China had colonized…China is expanding its military power. with only one purpose …to defend its territory….not to wage war.
at 0:40, why should India be concerned about China military great leap forward ? China is NOT an aggressive country as in China's long history, they have not invade, conquer or colonize any country BEFORE. And they will very likely will NOT do that in the future. So best is not to be too concern but work together with China and Russia to create a better world. At the same time, improve your military and science area. The world need great leaderships to lead world to a better peaceful world. China military advancement is mainly for defensive only in case their country is under attack. It is in the best interest of every country in the world that they are in good term with their neighbors. Becos your neighbors are just next door only and can look out for each other in case needed help (of any kind)
it never was part of india.. So india worry about china taking back the land india's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin in TheWire South Tibet was illegally annexed by India and illegaly renamed as Arunachal Pradesh by India. It must be returned by India to the Tibetans and China
Is for people like you.... Why complete with China??? Like I say do the best for India... Don't look outward look inward... Isn't that the highest consciousness???
Alarming situation and gov't is busy fighting with opposition on petty matters or finding temples under each Mosque in India, instead of working hard on National Defense!
Because China is a reality we have to live with and defend against in case of a war. For us it not like the US that the countries are on the opposite sides of the world. China is on our border.
@@MrXperx If China wanna takeover India, they could have did it in 1962 where the whole Indian army were compromised and captured, and New Delhi were wide open very inviting, the Chinese are not interested in India. 😁😁
@@MrXperx Even the Myanmar war lords suggested to china to merge with China but the Chinese was not interested, it has 1.4 billions to manage, enough headache.
I want to bring out the follies spread by these generals esp gen shankar. He keeps on crying defense budget percentage to gdp is less or bringing down by modi govt. This foolish general conveniently omits the fact that indias gdp is rising year on year. Net result is that fund available to defense forces are more every year ie, 2% of 2 trillion economy vs 1.5 % of 4 trillion economy.. can this general tell which is more.. ? In upa era, the defense minister antony did not make even a single strategic purchase for defense forces for long ten years. Where were these generals then? They happily took their salary wagged their tails. They never said a word in support of our armed forces. Now they find problems in everything modi govt does Just when the nation is trying to move forward, these veteran crabs want to pull the nation down. i have been following this gen shankar on his channel for so long. Now a pattern emerges. His agenda is to push anti modi agenda subtly. Its time to hold this fellow accountable from now on. We kept our mouth shut out of respect to our veterans, but when they do propaganda, i lose respect for them.
China is already working on 7 or 8G fighters may skip 7G. By the time India come out with there first prototype China 6G will be in mass production. At current production rate China will have 1000 5G J20 by 2030.
India and China should be friends instead of enemies. There is a natural barrier between the two countries, the Himalaya. It is extremely difficult for one to permanently intrude to the other side. Thus, stay calm, be friends.
5 things should come in Feb25 budget: - Integrated engine program (like IGMDP), flying test-bed, 130kn engine with France. - SSN & N-carrier co-development with France. - comprehensive detection radar, Sub detection, SATs, ISTAR, and missile defence grid covering Himalayas and IOR. - Revamp defence procurement/ Bureaucracy. Shorten procurement cycle/red-tapes. Bulk orders+indigenous improvements even with L1/L2 to boost industrial capacity. - Take it as an opportunity to Increase defense capital-Acquisition/procurement budget by 50% to modernization against new threats.
Thanks for taking up an embarrassing topic with honesty and objectivity. What a mature, thoughtful discussion minus the stupid jingoism that we see on several other channels.
Bad things can sometimes turn into good things. After the Five Eyes countries have clearly abandoned India as a frontline pawn against China, it is time for India to calm down, return to the reality that India will never be able to inherit the Tibetan territories stolen by the British, and start working with China to restore the 1500 -years long friendly relationship. So that India can focus its vast potential on peaceful economic development. This will be in the best interest of the people of India and the world.
India not only lagging behind in military equipment ..it's lagging in every aspect with china ..economy , technology,..seriously India need culture revolution in order to catch up
Modi's nation is digging deep, deep n deep to unearth Mahabharat period Pushpak vimaan that will certainly outclass China 's sixth generation fighters.
feelings of entitlement and unrealistic expectations (and sadly, arrogance). Not dissimilar to the inner soul-searching over India's dismal olympic medal performance - that a country of India's size and population somehow deserves to be amongst the leading olympic nations but cannot muster a single gold medal and is beaten by its hated enemy and one of the poorest and most dysfunctional economies in the world, Pakistan, let alone china. As I recall, the unrealistic comparison (a constant in the Indian discourse in almost every domain) with China's gold medal performance was a dominant theme in the Indian media/press. But the comparison was always, ridiculous, like comparing an elephant with a snail. India doesn't invest in top tier sport (and that is totally appropriate given its overall poverty, its immense socio-economic priorites) to the extent that china does - perhaps, with the exception of badminton and yet the expectation is Indian gold medals galore (remember the national agony over Vinesh Phogat's appeal over disqualification amd the faint possibiity that she might get the silver?). I recall in the 80s. when the LCA project was announced and the wholly and wildly optimistic timelines for GTRE to introduce the Kaveri (can I humbly suggest this is a critical national flaw in the Indian character), it was obvious back then that the timeline was unrealsitic and here we are 40 years later. How many of India's universities and research institutes figure in the world's top 100 universities for cuting edge research, again compared to china? BTW, its been a long haul for china to develop leading universities and research institutions in the aftermath of the cultural revolution and in its own search for adequate turbofan technology. china imported a ToT spey engine factory in 1975 but eventually had to mothball it because it didn't have the requsitte metallurgical science to develop the alloys. as we know, it is only in the last 5-6 years that china is able to produce reasonable turbofan engines for the airforce so it has taken 45 years or so (their engines' MTBO is likley to be behind western tech) inspite of billions of $ of investment (and also a dysfunctional bureacracy as well as silos in the early days). china is now probably a world leader in ram/scram jet engine. so again, India's unrealsitic expectations (of course, DRDO's dysfunctional bureacrcy magnified the problem but then, dysfunctional bureacrcy is another national Indian flaw?). India doesn't have cutting edge science and hasn't invested in science so any increase in the miltary budget will only have a small impact. neither the us or russia will share the turbofan technology to the fullest edtent (GE have just said they will transer 80%, RR has taked about it but 100% is unlikely. Russias said no, and Safran may be considering but their tech is not leading edge (the M88 almost qualifies as a legacy engine but beggars can't be choosers - I mean for both the french and inda - btw, turkey is likely to face the same problem.
(1) Indian foot soldiers (SEPOYS) in the British Army formed part of the Eight Nation Alliance that invaded China in 1900. (2) To rectify trade imbalance, the British imported INDIAN OPIUM into China, demanding payment in silver. They used this to buy tea, silk, porcelain from China. By 1839, opium sales to China paid for the entire British TEA TRADE. Btw the British smuggled Tea Plants from China into India for planting.Tea came from China to India. (3) Conclusion: India owed China BLOOD DEBT which China forgiven and forgotten! Yet India is the ONE whose always thinking China wants to harm her. China had the Atomic Bomb before India and could had attack India back then. So India please remember China is NOT your enemy. China is a pratical country. China even accepted India Buddhism to be part of its culture. China does not envy or hate India. So be friends, India and China can be the richest countries in the world like before the Colonisers came.
India must find its own path rather than play all sides and must do their best to retain their best and brightest STEM people in India and not Silicon Valley or American hospitals, research centers or gov’t!!
What do you mean out of our reach? 😂 Struggling to BUY 4.5 Gens, yet they have 2 5th Gen, an Advance flanker, drones in abundance and variety, international space station... yet we go around killing our own citizens because they might have a cow in the back.... how advanced.....
4 generation which you call 3rd generation is tejas and is flying and 5th generation which you call 4 th generation AMCA is in devlopment face and will fly by 2030s
While submitting Income Tax return, there should be option to optionally donate additional funds to "Indian Defense Theaterisation and upgrade effort". Also, government should increase R&D budget, space research budget, defense budget etc. strategic investments and start bringing knowledgeable people / resources to transfer critical technology from outside. Also, Private sector is excellent choice👌it cuts out the corruption at its root because of product competitiveness.
Difference between India n China...is that China is disciplined, focused n single minded...where as India is d total opposite in all aspects and highly politicised...that is y India so very sad 2 say will never catch up with d Chinese...
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India is not China's enemy. Don't worry. China develops advanced weapons to make Uncle Sam more peaceful. China suffered a century of humiliation in the past (1840-1945). China wants to make sure that she will not be humiliated again in the future.
I m a Malaysian.
Do you know that China brokered peace between Saudi and Iran？
1. USA, not China, is the threat of the world nations. Since the end of WWII to 2001, roughly 248 military conflicts occurred in 153 regions around the world, of which the US waged 201, accounting for 80 percent of all wars worldwide.
China has traded with SE Asian for 2000 years. In those years, they had been the world’s biggest powers many times. Never once they sent troops to take our land. Admiral Zhenghe came to Malacca five times, in gigantic fleets, and a flagship eight times the size of Christopher Columbus’ flagship, Santa Maria. He could have seized Malacca easily, but he did not. In 1511, the Portuguese came. In 1642, the Dutch came. In the 18th century the British came. We were colonised by each, one after another.
When China wanted spices from India, they traded with the Indians. When they wanted gems, they traded with the Persian. They didn’t take lands. The only time China expanded beyond their current borders was in Yuan Dynasty, when Genghis and his descendants Ogedei Khan, Guyuk Khan & Kublai Khan conquered China, Mid Asia and Eastern Europe. But Yuan Dynasty, although being based in China, was a part of the Mongolian Empire.
Then came the Century of Humiliation. Britain smuggled opium into China to dope the population, a strategy to turn the trade deficit around, after the British could not find enough silver to pay the Qing Dynasty in their tea and porcelain trades. After the opium warehouses were burned down and ports were closed by the Chinese in ordered to curb opium, the British started the Opium War I, which China lost. Hong Kong was forced to be surrendered to the British in a peace talk (Nanjing Treaty). The British owned 90% of the opium market in China, during that time, Queen Victoria was the world’s biggest drug baron. The remaining 10% was owned by American merchants from Boston. Many of Boston’s institutions were built with profit from opium.
After 12 years of Nanjing Treaty, the West started getting really really greedy. The British wanted the Qing government:
1. To open the borders of China to allow goods coming in and out freely, and tax free.
2. Make opium legal in China.
Insane requests, Qing government said no. The British and French, with supports from the US and Russia from behind, started Opium War II with China, which again, China lost. The Anglo-French military raided the Summer Palace, and threatened to burn down the Imperial Palace, the Qing government was forced to pay with ports, free business zones, 300,000 kilograms of silver and Kowloon was taken. Since then, China’s resources flew out freely through these business zones and ports. In the subsequent amendment to the treaties, Chinese people were sold overseas to serve as labor.
In 1900, China suffered attacks by the 8-National Alliance(Japan, Russia, Britain, France, USA, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary). Innocent Chinese civilians in Peking (Beijing now) were murdered, buildings were destroyed & women were raped. The Imperial Palace was raided, and treasures ended up in museums like the British Museum in London and the Louvre in Paris.
In late 1930s China was occupied by the Japanese in WWII. Millions of Chinese died during the occupancy. 300,000 Chinese died in Nanjing Massacre alone.
Mao brought China together again from the shambles. There were peace and unity for some time. But Mao’s later reign saw sufferings and deaths from famine and power struggles.
Then came Deng Xiao Ping and his famous “black-cat and white-cat” story. His preference in pragmatism than ideologies has transformed China. This thinking allowed China to evolve all the time to adapt to the actual needs in the country, instead of rigidly bounded to ideologies. It also signified the death of Communism in actually practice in China. The current Socialism+Meritocracy+Market Economy model fits the Chinese like gloves, and it propels the uprise of China. Singapore has a similar model, and has been arguably more successful than Hong Kong, because Hong Kong being gateway to China, was riding on the economic boom in China, while Singapore had no one to gain from.
In just 30 years, the CCP have moved 800 millions of people out from poverty. The rate of growth is unprecedented in human history. They have built the biggest mobile network, by far the biggest high speed rail network in the world, and they have become a behemoth in infrastructure. They made a fishing village called Shenzhen into the world’s second largest technological centre after the Silicon Valley. They are growing into a technological power house. It has the most elaborate e-commerce and cashless payment system in the world. They have launched exploration to Mars. The Chinese are living a good life and China has become one of the safest countries in the world. The level of patriotism in the country has reached an unprecedented height.
For all of the achievements, the West has nothing good to say about it. China suffers from intense anti-China propagandas from the West. Western Media used the keyword “Communist” to instil fear and hatred towards China. Everything China does is negatively reported.
@@kwokholuk8723 This is the Attitude that
will get India to lose it’s Land to China. 🤦🏻♂️
Exactly well said..! China were attacked, colonialized, humiliated, robbed and burned, brutally attacked and occupied by Japan's aggression; including most of currently ASEAN countries, etc. China is saying no more being or facing threats, containment or surrounded anymore. China has the universal rights of self defense.
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I’m afraid it’s a waste of time telling that to the Indians
China’s this great leap doesn’t happened in overnight, in last couple of decades China spend massively in their Education sector that’s why China first became superpower in technology & manufacturing and now with same educated and skilled workforce China started to dominate in Defense sector too,
today China’s education budget is nearly 900 billion dollars where India spends roughly 60-70 billion dollars on education, how supposedly we can match China terms of technology. ?
India's weapon Chinese most fear of = The angry face of Palki Sharma of Firstpost, China's fighter jets will flee seeing Palki's face
@@jrkr7357 You forgot cow dung missiles ??
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Every govrrnment if Far East spend heavily on their Education before defence budget.
Human Resource can be built from within.
HEY, I LIKE BIG BIG WOMEN.
endia invest in education? What kind of education?? 🤣🤣🤣
India: China, China, China!!
China: Who are you again?
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@@clipwat1511 exactly
bharat india- i im bharat who you fear
it never was part of india.. So india worry about china taking back the land india's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin in TheWire
South Tibet was illegally annexed by India and illegaly renamed as Arunachal Pradesh by India. It must be returned by India to the Tibetans and China
You are right India is not an enemy of China, so why worry, live your own lives
we are enemies. there is space for only one big power in india
Indian still think they should be as good as Chinese, whatever Chinese have they should have.
The more Indians speak negatively about China, the more jealousy it shows, why? Lots of intelligent Indians, build your own. The jealousy is so obvious and pathetic.
@@jteeezy275 indeed! Look at Indian politicians in the diaspora speak - they are full of European colonial mentality. Too jealousy of China while worshipping Europeans (USA, UK, Australia or Israel). What have Indians learnt from Ukraine war with Russia? Nothing at all
My Indian friend, you are too far behind to match China's achievements. Spend wisely and forget about defense against China.
I am very curious, what is India worried about? India is not China's strategic opponent now, at least in the next 30 years. What India needs to do now is industrialization, not a high-level arms race with China. India is not qualified to have a high-level arms race with China.
It is because of extreme jealousy and delusion on the parts of endia.
endia believes they are "superpower", far more superior than China.
Whereas China believes they are still a "developing country".
But reality is the total opposite.. and as deluded as endians are, some still have some
sense of reality.. and the reality is that China is way more superior than endia.
Hence this makes many endian feeling bitter.
The right strategy comes from the right positioning. India's problem is that it always overestimates itself, so their strategy is unrealistic.
There's no race but you guys have occupied Indian territory and have been threatening to occupy more territory. So, the fear is absolutely justified.
In 1960s when the Highway construction in Aksai Chin by CCP was raised by India, CCP leadership actually apologized and said they will work towards solving the "confusion". Then they visited India said"we are brothers" and there's no dispute to the Indian territories. Very next year, CCP forces attacked India and dislodged Indian position from Aksai Chin.
India lost the war. China lost world's trust.
@@dkq986 so why dont you take the land back????? dung-dian......😂😂😂
@@dkq986 Are you lying or is it your government? Or is it your textbooks? In 1962, it was India's so-called "Forward Policy" that violated Chinese territory.
From the perspective of China's interests, India's high arms race with China is in line with China's interests. Please continue.
India is never a target of China.
Why is India so sensitive?
India should use action not talking to narrow the GAP.
India wants to be a target for China to feel super important!!!
Why else do they think China needs 6th gen to threaten Indians in their sandals 😂😂
It's a message to the West and India thinks China is talking to them specifically 😂😂😂 Indian cringe it's like when someone pretty waves in your general direction and you wave back and then you find out it's someone more handsome and capable behind you 😂😂😂
india wanna be power
@@wionporky9937 In fact China wanted collaboration several times in the history. Indian leaders (Slaves in fact) was always motivated by the west in term of Superpower. They never realised that the west won't allow anyone to take their position. They used and are using India to prevent China to takeover the west. And in future if India could able in autonomous development, Pakistan and Other countries will be used to stop India. That's the case for the west. Unfortunately Indians can't realise the fact.
i dont think u quite understand what gap means :)
The best response for India to take is to shut up its mouth for the next 50 years and come out with some revolutionary systems to show then, may be there is a chance. Rest assured that other nations ain't sitting on the fence waiting for India too.
Secondly, China's quantum leap in tech snd defence/offence aint aim st India as many Indian media wish to portrait. India has to work hard for it and not by just talking. Anyway, why India is so arrogant and hostile towards China over the border issues which is the remnant of past colonial power's greed and imperialism. Even the disputed border lines have a English name, McMohon Lines, to start with, not Indian.
Thirdly, there are just too many BS made and fed to the public by Indian past and present leaderships over the border issues. And with the western propaganda often in play to the western agenda, and not Indian again. Hence, everything has became so complicated and a matter of national pride nowadays regardlessly. Guess China is more composed, calm, rational, consistent and decisive on the matter. But India has the opposite by constantly stirring national emotions and confrontations to WIN votes and elections. Hence, a lot of harsh talks, chest beating and hostility made but without much positive results but otherwise or missing of opportunity for a Win-Win scenerio in India's quest for industrialization. A typical Trademark of India, it seems.
When China does something significant, the Indian media especially, will be jumping up and down. It's as though China is focusing its every effort on India, in the minds of most Indians. I think it is due to an inferiority complex that keeps getting worse with each advancement China made. Talk is cheap. Like you said, they should stop talking and start the difficult task of getting down to serious work.
Well said.
Now who is jumping up and down. We can see clearly in this forum's comments.
中国如果针对印度根本不会用六代机。中国如果针对印度2019年会把印度打的屁滚尿流。我们的目标是美国，所以会一定成都上容忍印度，印度缺认为中国软弱。看看1962年印度是怎样对中国步步紧逼然后我们忍无可忍把印度打的屁滚尿流的。印度对于中国是个麻烦不是威胁，他们没资格威胁中国
Very well said. That's exactly what I wanted to say. I'm tired of explaining or arguing with my fellow Indians regarding their anti China stand and obsession.
China never considers India as their rival or enemy. It is we Indians, totally brainwashed by our government and western propaganda, that keep talking about China and keep portraying as villain. Thank gawd recently many people came to the realisation that there is no comparison and we are more at fault.
China is a peaceful nation
作为中国人，我都不知道他口中说的四条战线😂
India: Great Leap Backward
Below is World Power Ranking:
No 1. Bharat
No 2. India
No 3. India Ambani
No 4. India Adani
No 5. US
No 6. Russia
No 7. France
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No 33. China
Retake calculus
India doesn’t have to respond anything, it has nothing to do with India. Just live your own lives, India has enough to worry within her borders.
Its funny because what happens inside is clearly has a co-relation with what you can do outside. There seems to be less inside problems when your capability to do things outside increases.
As usual the democracy system is the most corrupted, deceptive and manipulative. Politicians need to up the ante and also divert their citizens from real issues.
Even Manipur is burning for more than a year.
@@oinamthoujal8196 source? Trust me bro
Chinese bot
India illegal occupied South Tibet, Ladakh and other parts of China, Tibet. India is an aggressive country that also illegally occupied Kalapani of Nepal. The media and other social platforms always talk of fighting the Chinese since they were defeated in the 1962 border clashes. This seething injury still hurt their hearts. They are unwilling to negotiate for peaceful settlement even when Zhou En-Lai offered the exchange of South Tibet (Arunachal Pradesh) for Asai Chin. Now again, they planning to increase their military capability,
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British made country, failed country
@@jameschu512 obviously, you are not Indian. Most Indians wouldn’t know that China was willing to trade south Tibet with Indian’s claim of Aksai Chin before but now it is off table. China will not recognize Indian occupied south Tibet even if they give up their claim.
@@jameschu512 obviously, you are not Indian. Most Indians wouldn’t know that China was willing to trade south Tibet with Indian’s claim of Aksai Chin before but now it is off table. China will not recognize Indian occupied south Tibet even if they give up their claim.
印度建国前中华民国政府就已经拥有藏南了，不要把英国殖民地的非法占领当成真理😢😮
Even per capita GDPwise, India is only 1/5 of China’s, but India has always spent way much more on military percentage GDPwise comparing to China, UK 2.3% or France 2.1%, The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute calculated India’s defense expenditure at 2.4% of GDP in 2023.
“By comparison, China, with its much larger economy than India’s, spends about 1.7% of its share of GDP on defense,” India has become a country of war monger, yet to see what’s has lagged behind with China lost counts including some of which the global GDS network, ISMB, nuclear reaction tech, Hypersonic missiles, drone techs, robotics, AIs, 3d printing, space techs are all far behind, even the electricity required to run a wind tunnel like CHina’s JF 22 the world’s fast speed wind tunnel, which will reach Mach 30, that’s the backbone of all aviation vehicles development including 6th gen fighter, space craft, hypersonic missiles, air freighter like Y-20 or Y-40, domestic plane like C919 or 929, even us ‘s wind tunnel can reach Mach 5 only now, Chinas power generations is 2 times of us, plus all the infrastructures like HST net work, Bridges, green energy, tunnels, highways, fully automatically run sea ports ,even China’s shipping building capacity is 232 times of US, India has raised too high a bar to catch up with the most advanced fields of CHina, and the world’s most advanced, by looking at the host and guests, they all speak English, a language of their old master, the colonized,none of them even speaks Indian at all, that’s a clear sign of least self respect lacking(or is there a unified language for Indians to speak besides English?) i bet lots of the development China has made includes domestic and foreign educated intellectual asset’s devotion, i rarely see any India’s students studied abroad willing to return to India after graduation, yet China probably has a 98% return rates of US educated students after graduation, comparing with Indians, the smartest one obviously don’t love India at all. Indian are clearly braggarts, not diligent builders ,you reap what you sow.
China's power generation is 4.5 times that of India, not 2.
@ chill, i was comparing china with us.
True !!! 👌👌👌
They not only speak English, a language of their old colonizer, they also wanted the borderline drew by the colonizer even it was unjust.
India should respond by talk, talk and talk
India is rapidly advancing at mandir,statue construction while China is advancing at science and technology at a super fast speed.
No worry. India has Tejas, the most advanced stealth fighter jet in the world. We hear a lot and continually people discussing about the Tejas. But the stealth technology of this fighter jet is so advanced that only very few people see it flying and we are uncertain about their credibility.
You are absolutely right!
You can't be serious
World Ranking :
No 1. India
No 2. India Delhi
No 3. India Mumbai
No 4. US
No 5. Russia
No 6. Japan
No 7. France
No 8. Australia
No 9. Israel
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No 33. China
@@jrkr7357 😂😂😂
Vande mataram, Jai hind
To even suggest India to catch up or be on par with China is fanciful. India mindset are entrenched when it comes to quality or production. They have no pride in their work ethic. But Indian pride are pure mystery
Yes, I have the same thought with you 😅🎉
Forget technology: India is number 1 in Bollywood things...
What about Kollywood things
World Ranking :
No 1. Bharat
No 2. India
No 3. India Ambani
No 4. India Adani
No 5. US
No 6 Russia
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No 33. China
@@YLYLMR even worse.
@@YLYLMR Even worse.
India’s response is talk talk talk!
Beurocracy ..
And kept on talking. Who care what other think... CHINA do what China did. From Indonesia.....
and then dont know how to make and then talk more about aquisition as if some one is ready there and giving bharath what ever it wants lol useless engineers for starters
You can't dig well when you are thirsty. You have elected anti national Govt for decades I.e. Congress. Their interest never to make Country strong and even made secret pact with enemycountry. Now when problem is on door step everyone is cocky. You will reap what you sow. Don't complain start doing what you can.
India needs a style of gov't the unites its people, not a political system allows for one party to use religion to pit on group against another. Or you need a new leader that unites its people, invest in education, development, etc. Unfortunately, when this gov't is in power, they might not be in power after their term is up. 💡
Just send in a request to King Charles…we miss the good old colonized days….we all can speak English as our first language…..take us back. Bye bye Mahatma!
Or we will all go to USA
Not only military advancement. Their incredible infrastructure, it’s subways , high speed rail , 5G networks ,its non cash economy, its EVs , drones , robodogs, robots, highways , nuclear power , solar ,etc etc etc. And lately Deepseek which is their very impressive AI model that outperformed US AI models that has better GPUs and excessive budgets. Cmon even US is falling behind , just visit a first tier Chinese city V US, it’s not even close.
@@robertwang7825 but India has world largest democracy
@ You mean India still has a caste system , corruption , a wide disparity in wealth and is at least 50 years behind China and the gap is growing. Look at the pollution levels of Chinese cities 30 yrs ago compared to today and look at Indias deadly smog. India has a long long way to go , China has been a non cash economy for more than a decade now. Have you even seen their cities - go look at Indian vlogs of their travel experiences in China.
@@Jfldhryou're saying democracy not working😂
@@robertwang7825 你为什么要告诉他这些？让他继续愚蠢下去有什么不好？
India is not fixing its problems like Largest Population , Largest corruption, Largest environmental pollution, road Infrastructures a good example can be Chennai Banglore highway such a problem
China shares borders with 13 countries and has settled their border issues peacefully except with India. It is time to negotiate a peaceful settlement.
India immediate needs is to grow its economy since it opines that China military build up is to deter US adventurism over Taiwan. To join in an unnecessary arms race with China simply not to feel left out will retard India economic growth. What does India have which makes China wanting* to invade it???? Pride, ego or self glorification???
Lol Indian immediacy = to Western immediacy = 100yrs from now 😂🎉🎉 and they still wonder why China has overtaken them by having meetings about China catching up or rising for about 70yrs!
India has a world richest family, so the people are happy with that. the most important things for Indians to worry are developing the world most powerful military.
India should focuses more effort on solving it's own internal problems rather than constantly making comparison itself with china and boasting itself no 1.
What is India number 1 in though!? Has any Indian actually asked or thought about this?
India is a superpower country! China is a 3rd world country !
China and India lack mutual trust is more on the India side rather than China side. Contrary to many Indian's believe, China does not have much hostility against India. But India is hostile against China. India pulls out from RCEP in last minute because of China, India is against Belt and Road initiative because of Pakistan, India actively joins US's effort in containing China. India has to think hard on what is the most pressing issue for India: Is it the risk posed by China's rapid development or is it the lack of desired progress of India's economic development. Regardless how much military budget India plans to increase, India will not be able catch up with China because China GDP is 4.5 time of India. Back 40 years ago, right at the beginning of China's economic reform, Deng Xiaping decided to cut the military budget by half despite facing the threat from Soviet Union and had a border war with Vietnam. Things gradually improved since that time. India can take a lesson from that.
India should be more understanding of why China wants to make sure it never again gets humiliated by the white west in particular. I am a black African woman and I grew up feeling India could be a country that was more on the side of the global majority and the global south....... But alas me and my family have now come to the conclusion that India is the west's poodle, the yes man of the west in asia. On the other hand I now see China as being on the side of the global majority. I have even told my Indian friends this. I never imagined that India that was itself once colonised would stoop so low as to become America's henchman in asia.
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These jokers are discussing whether China is a threat to India..
Please stop all these illusions that India is a superpower, and to compare India with China is an insult to China because China is on another level, whereas this India is comparable with Pakistan or Zimbabwe... The Himalayas are a natural barrier for both countries to wage any war against each other and to fight over a barren
.desolate and frozen land is stupid strategy and senseless.. India should get rid of the shackles of colonialism and demand the returm of treasures..jewelery..and gold amounting to 45 trillion dollars and claim the reparation costs inflicted by the British during its colonial era on India instead of arguing and trying to project and flex its military muscles which in fact it has none against China..
These jokers look so stupid and naive discussing about China threat..
Indian democracy is pulling down Indian from progressing.
Pulling down India's reasons:
No 1. Democracy
No 2. Rahul Gandhi disturb Modi
No 3. No water
No 4. No air to breath
No 5. No enough rest
No 6. Quarrel with with wife at home before leaving house to work
No 7. No electricity
No 8. China
No 9. Xi Jin Ping disturb India
Religious intolerance, poor infrastructure, corruption, caste system, poor treatment of women, Hindu nationalism. That is what keeps India down.
@@jrkr7357 😃😃😃
India isn't a democracy. It's a kakist0cracy. 😂😂😂
Indians can only sing and dance. Oh, take some peg of alcohol, some try to establish foreign philosophy some struggle to keep own identity. Everyone barks more does less. This is India 😂
The best strategy for India is to make friends with China. By so-called increasing defense budget, improving government efficiency will not narrow the gap between India and China simply because India is far behind China in terms of infrastructure, long-term planning. Today even the US is way behind China in hypersonic technology. Therefore, India should have self-awareness, don't try to always compare it with China.
Why it is a concern for India? is it not because India thinking too highly of herself?
India needs to do itself a favor by not comparing itself to China, doing so is unfair & disrespectful to India. There’s no competition
China is only developing its own military. Why is India's reaction so great? In China's eyes, there is no India. India still needs to develop its economy well, and don't indulge in the dream of a superpower. China's economy is five times that of India, and it is a world industrial power, accounting for 35% of the world's industry. Now it is impossible for India and China to compete.
Take well care of the people, build more infrastructure before boosting your military capabilities.
'contested borders', the borders were carved out by the colonial Britain for the creation of india without tge consent of the Chinese. What is there to contest? Britian took Chinese land in creating India. Return it.
Exactly 💯 THIS!!! India and Indians is a Western imperialist creation! 😂😂😂 Indian culture is a British invention from Brick Lane 😂😂😂😂
Absolutely true
100%
Invest in your own Indian people. Not on military.
India should just look into uplift the poor ... instead of futile dream of taking on China.
unless India can start to build a 7th gen plane .
Why worries? India is also a member of brics
Hi, India. This is really not about you. It's for trump and US.
Indians should not be alarmed at the development of China military technology as they are designed to counter US aggression planning to play the Taiwan card. These military gears are purely self defense and never in its plan for invading India. India should cooperate with China on technology grounds as shown by the coherent relationship between US and EU. Built a strong Asia market together, defence together for the people instead of giving the west the gaps to disrupt Asia rise in next 10 to 30 years.
Remember: it is not the plane, it is the pilot! India needs maverick!
India should focus more on domestic issues, including women's rights, public health, equitable education, and environmental pollution. Once these issues are resolved or show significant progress, the nation's overall strength will greatly improve. At that point, advancements in military capabilities will naturally follow.
India is never in the race in the first place.
India was out of the race a long time ago
India is certainly not china’s enemy. In fact, they should be friends. India suffered more than hundred years of humiliation from the British too. Unfortunately, India seem to have forgotten about it.
Don't you think this program is simply a waste of time? In industrial production of practically anything, India is not within anything within the next 3 decades!
I think India does not need to spend money on the development of aircraft engines, but how to quickly build toilets, manufacture chips, manufacture locomotives and wheels for high-speed railways, and how to mass-produce shoes, toys, furniture, etc. A fourth-rate country always worries about what first-rate countries do. India is a country that is strong in empty talk, weak in practical work, and does not know itself, and has mysterious self-confidence.
India please don't be concerned about China's military’s superpower. China is not a threat to any country. I would be concerned if I was an American Pentagon official 😂
India don’t worry regarding China…china is not a colonizer in nature & will never be one…in the history of China there’s never be a nation China had colonized…China is expanding its military power. with only one purpose …to defend its territory….not to wage war.
at 0:40, why should India be concerned about China military great leap forward ?
China is NOT an aggressive country as in China's long history, they have not invade, conquer or colonize any country BEFORE. And they will very likely will NOT do that in the future.
So best is not to be too concern but work together with China and Russia to create a better world. At the same time, improve your military and science area.
The world need great leaderships to lead world to a better peaceful world.
China military advancement is mainly for defensive only in case their country is under attack.
It is in the best interest of every country in the world that they are in good term with their neighbors. Becos your neighbors are just next door only and can look out for each other in case needed help (of any kind)
it never was part of india.. So india worry about china taking back the land india's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin in TheWire South Tibet was illegally annexed by India and illegaly renamed as Arunachal Pradesh by India. It must be returned by India to the Tibetans and China
The Great Leap Forward Indian style would include no more public shittinge.
Soilng their dhotis?
Thanks
Just who care what India think??? Just do what best for India.... 😂😂😂😂.
Then why are you barking here if you don't care ?
@harshitsingh1600 is for people like you.... Ignorance yet talking too much.....
Is for people like you.... Why complete with China??? Like I say do the best for India... Don't look outward look inward... Isn't that the highest consciousness???
China is 50 years behind India, nothing to worry about
Jai hind
@@stevenlai1199Yeah you’re very funny 😂😂 I agree 😅😅😂😂
This makes me sleep better.
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Alarming situation and gov't is busy fighting with opposition on petty matters or finding temples under each Mosque in India, instead of working hard on National Defense!
I agree
Blame the stupid opposition, not Modi
Modi should establish a Temple Ministry.
This temple issue is a red herring. It's not done by the center but the states. Defence is a central subject.
That is the most efficient way to garner votes.
Why Indian continues to compare itself to China?
Because China is a reality we have to live with and defend against in case of a war. For us it not like the US that the countries are on the opposite sides of the world. China is on our border.
@@MrXperx So the Pakistan is the correct one😂😁😁😁😁
@@MrXperx
If China wanna takeover India, they could have did it in 1962 where the whole Indian army were compromised and captured, and New Delhi were wide open very inviting, the Chinese are not interested in India. 😁😁
@@MrXperx
Even the Myanmar war lords suggested to china to merge with China but the Chinese was not interested, it has 1.4 billions to manage, enough headache.
Because china bordering country of India & china claims indian territory
I want to bring out the follies spread by these generals esp gen shankar. He keeps on crying defense budget percentage to gdp is less or bringing down by modi govt. This foolish general conveniently omits the fact that indias gdp is rising year on year. Net result is that fund available to defense forces are more every year ie, 2% of 2 trillion economy vs 1.5 % of 4 trillion economy.. can this general tell which is more.. ?
In upa era, the defense minister antony did not make even a single strategic purchase for defense forces for long ten years. Where were these generals then? They happily took their salary wagged their tails. They never said a word in support of our armed forces. Now they find problems in everything modi govt does
Just when the nation is trying to move forward, these veteran crabs want to pull the nation down.
i have been following this gen shankar on his channel for so long. Now a pattern emerges. His agenda is to push anti modi agenda subtly. Its time to hold this fellow accountable from now on. We kept our mouth shut out of respect to our veterans, but when they do propaganda, i lose respect for them.
Hearing this it’s a bit like Chinese men’s soccer team discussing how to beat Brazil in the World Cup on TV.
do your homework, at least get the pictures right, it is exactly this kind of laziness that get India where it is now, way behind China, eating dust.
China is already working on 7 or 8G fighters may skip 7G. By the time India come out with there first prototype China 6G will be in mass production. At current production rate China will have 1000 5G J20 by 2030.
Do not worry. What China is doing has nothing of India's concern,
India China border issue is India’s making, but China marches forward regardless.
India and China should be friends instead of enemies. There is a natural barrier between the two countries, the Himalaya. It is extremely difficult for one to permanently intrude to the other side. Thus, stay calm, be friends.
nobody can be india's friend!
Don't start arm race with China. Start economic development race with China. Stop talking talking talking BS.
5 things should come in Feb25 budget:
- Integrated engine program (like IGMDP), flying test-bed, 130kn engine with France.
- SSN & N-carrier co-development with France.
- comprehensive detection radar, Sub detection, SATs, ISTAR, and missile defence grid covering Himalayas and IOR.
- Revamp defence procurement/ Bureaucracy. Shorten procurement cycle/red-tapes. Bulk orders+indigenous improvements even with L1/L2 to boost industrial capacity.
- Take it as an opportunity to Increase defense capital-Acquisition/procurement budget by 50% to modernization against new threats.
Well said. 👍
我还是建议你们多修点公路和铁路。
Thanks for taking up an embarrassing topic with honesty and objectivity.
What a mature, thoughtful discussion minus the stupid jingoism that we see on several other channels.
Bad things can sometimes turn into good things. After the Five Eyes countries have clearly abandoned India as a frontline pawn against China, it is time for India to calm down, return to the reality that India will never be able to inherit the Tibetan territories stolen by the British, and start working with China to restore the 1500 -years long friendly relationship. So that India can focus its vast potential on peaceful economic development. This will be in the best interest of the people of India and the world.
Try to develop education sector ,everything will change in massive ways .Defence budget is not the most important.
No worries, these advanced weapons are meant to make the US more peaceful!
India not only lagging behind in military equipment ..it's lagging in every aspect with china ..economy , technology,..seriously India need culture revolution in order to catch up
Modi's nation is digging deep, deep n deep to unearth Mahabharat period Pushpak vimaan that will certainly outclass China 's sixth generation fighters.
All India talents are working in US, Canada, Australia, and England. The biggest export of talents in the history of mankind.
feelings of entitlement and unrealistic expectations (and sadly, arrogance). Not dissimilar to the inner soul-searching over India's dismal olympic medal performance - that a country of India's size and population somehow deserves to be amongst the leading olympic nations but cannot muster a single gold medal and is beaten by its hated enemy and one of the poorest and most dysfunctional economies in the world, Pakistan, let alone china. As I recall, the unrealistic comparison (a constant in the Indian discourse in almost every domain) with China's gold medal performance was a dominant theme in the Indian media/press. But the comparison was always, ridiculous, like comparing an elephant with a snail. India doesn't invest in top tier sport (and that is totally appropriate given its overall poverty, its immense socio-economic priorites) to the extent that china does - perhaps, with the exception of badminton and yet the expectation is Indian gold medals galore (remember the national agony over Vinesh Phogat's appeal over disqualification amd the faint possibiity that she might get the silver?). I recall in the 80s. when the LCA project was announced and the wholly and wildly optimistic timelines for GTRE to introduce the Kaveri (can I humbly suggest this is a critical national flaw in the Indian character), it was obvious back then that the timeline was unrealsitic and here we are 40 years later. How many of India's universities and research institutes figure in the world's top 100 universities for cuting edge research, again compared to china? BTW, its been a long haul for china to develop leading universities and research institutions in the aftermath of the cultural revolution and in its own search for adequate turbofan technology. china imported a ToT spey engine factory in 1975 but eventually had to mothball it because it didn't have the requsitte metallurgical science to develop the alloys. as we know, it is only in the last 5-6 years that china is able to produce reasonable turbofan engines for the airforce so it has taken 45 years or so (their engines' MTBO is likley to be behind western tech) inspite of billions of $ of investment (and also a dysfunctional bureacracy as well as silos in the early days). china is now probably a world leader in ram/scram jet engine. so again, India's unrealsitic expectations (of course, DRDO's dysfunctional bureacrcy magnified the problem but then, dysfunctional bureacrcy is another national Indian flaw?). India doesn't have cutting edge science and hasn't invested in science so any increase in the miltary budget will only have a small impact. neither the us or russia will share the turbofan technology to the fullest edtent (GE have just said they will transer 80%, RR has taked about it but 100% is unlikely. Russias said no, and Safran may be considering but their tech is not leading edge (the M88 almost qualifies as a legacy engine but beggars can't be choosers - I mean for both the french and inda - btw, turkey is likely to face the same problem.
(1) Indian foot soldiers (SEPOYS) in the British Army formed part of the Eight Nation Alliance that invaded China in 1900.
(2) To rectify trade imbalance, the British imported INDIAN OPIUM into China, demanding payment in silver. They used this to buy tea, silk, porcelain from China. By 1839, opium sales to China paid for the entire British TEA TRADE. Btw the British smuggled Tea Plants from China into India for planting.Tea came from China to India.
(3) Conclusion: India owed China BLOOD DEBT which China forgiven and forgotten! Yet India is the ONE whose always thinking China wants to harm her. China had the Atomic Bomb before India and could had attack India back then. So India please remember China is NOT your enemy. China is a pratical country. China even accepted India Buddhism to be part of its culture. China does not envy or hate India. So be friends, India and China can be the richest countries in the world like before the Colonisers came.
Nice show. All the guests talk great.
I am afraid what is happening in defense is also happening in technological capabilities, including AI.
It was historic blunder of Mr Modi to withdraw from Russian SU-57 project under American Pressure.
India and China NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. It will be more beneficial and profitable for both in the long run.
India needs to feed her hungry people.
Chinese military development is to deal with US's aggression not India's. Don't over-react
印度为什么与所有邻国的关系都不好？当然，这都是他们的错。
Before building costly war equipment, first arrange toilet facilities and food security for your mass people.
Both those issues are done.
Can I request to remove the background music, it is very distracting.
Dude, the BGM is all Bollywood music, it's quite amusing though... it's very comedic, isn't it? lmao
India must find its own path rather than play all sides and must do their best to retain their best and brightest STEM people in India and not Silicon Valley or American hospitals, research centers or gov’t!!
Being an unarmed lets not challenge the man with armed all the time without any genuine issues.
Don't worry, democracy will win😊, India only need to focused on debates.
India should focus on Pakistan. Why do they always try to compare themselves to China?
What do you mean out of our reach? 😂
Struggling to BUY 4.5 Gens, yet they have 2 5th Gen, an Advance flanker, drones in abundance and variety, international space station... yet we go around killing our own citizens because they might have a cow in the back.... how advanced.....
where is made in india 4th generation fighter plane ? made in india! india fast train? india ev car?
4 generation which you call 3rd generation is tejas and is flying and 5th generation which you call 4 th generation AMCA is in devlopment face and will fly by 2030s
While submitting Income Tax return, there should be option to optionally donate additional funds to "Indian Defense Theaterisation and upgrade effort". Also, government should increase R&D budget, space research budget, defense budget etc. strategic investments and start bringing knowledgeable people / resources to transfer critical technology from outside. Also, Private sector is excellent choice👌it cuts out the corruption at its root because of product competitiveness.
Our main failure is that we could not manufacture the engine for a fighter jet. Even USA is not supplying engine for our Tejas.
中国的工业实力比第二名到第九名的总和还要多。占世界百分之35。预计到2035年会是百分之45。实际现在的工业已经基本升级到了4.0时代。人口已经不再是决定性因素。2025将是中国科技爆发的起点。中国制造2025基本已经达成。这根本不是世界任何一个国家可以接近的水平。印度也许会拿走一些低水平的制造业，但根本无法撼动这个有史以来最强大的工业国家。
Difference between India n China...is that China is disciplined, focused n single minded...where as India is d total opposite in all aspects and highly politicised...that is y India so very sad 2 say will never catch up with d Chinese...
India should concentrate more on his people than concentrate on its military. Build more infrastructures and make people lives better.
Malaysia to buy the Sukhoi Su-57E Felon, a Russian fifth-generation stealth fighter jet, as its next Multirole Combat Aircraft (MRCA). The Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) is planning to acquire one squadron of 18 of the aircraft to replace its Su-30MKM fleet.
India, " if China leaps forward by fifty years, we will leap backward by 2000 years, jai sreeram "
When I see Endian talked about China videos, I come straight to comment section.
India is already a superpower that matches the United States, while China is merely a developing country.
India’s response is great lean forward 😂😅😂