Half in the Bag Extras: Zack Snyder, Superman IV, and The Justice League

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  • www.redletterme... - Some additional conversation from our recent Half in the Bag Man of Steel discussion.

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  • @navy0287
    @navy0287 9 лет назад +222

    I love how people keep saying "There's no shaky cam in the film," when the entire film is shot with the unsteady, hand-held camera effect. English translation: That's shaky cam!

    • @avidwriter2882
      @avidwriter2882 5 лет назад +4

      I guess you don't notice it when you're engrossed in the story? I liked the movie, I never remember shaky cam or being bothered by shaking.

    • @kylekondit9709
      @kylekondit9709 5 лет назад +13

      @@avidwriter2882 wow you must enjoy really bland run of the mill heartless story telling huh?

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja 4 года назад +10

      @@avidwriter2882 I suppose that's the sign of a more casual movie viewer. And I don't mean that as an insult; I am one as well, and I don't think about camera work as much as, say, Jay and Mike do. I try to pay attention to it but if it's not particularly attention-grabbing (positively or negatively) I tend to forget about it and focus more on story.

    • @The80sWolf_
      @The80sWolf_ 4 года назад

      I have never seen a man of steel fan deny there is shaky cam in it. 4 year old lies.

    • @snickle1980
      @snickle1980 2 года назад +1

      @@viljamtheninja 😐Personally, I've always been a fan of movies which are more of a character study. I need to care deeply about the people in the story and relate to them on more than one level if I'm going to appreciate said story.
      "If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth." - Neil Breen, 2016

  • @aaronv2photography
    @aaronv2photography 3 года назад +52

    "She won't have an invisible plane, That's for sure." Wait for their WW1984 review.

  • @lunarimperium42
    @lunarimperium42 8 лет назад +158

    I never knew Jay had his own RUclips channel.

  • @hegelbot
    @hegelbot 10 лет назад +159

    So maybe superman used his building repair power to fix metropolis in man of steel II.

  • @213byron
    @213byron 10 лет назад +46

    Superman had minecraft powers

  • @AggressivelyMediocre
    @AggressivelyMediocre 10 лет назад +62

    Well, called it on the Wonder Woman costume. lol

    • @StreamerSchool
      @StreamerSchool 10 лет назад +6

      I scrolled down here to type just that.

  • @Kylerinho
    @Kylerinho 7 лет назад +84

    Wow Rich Evans has really aged in the past 4 years

    • @InVinoVeratas
      @InVinoVeratas 4 года назад +7

      Yeah he gained like a decade in the last four years... I guess white people really don’t age well, that or his diabetes has really taken a toll on his health.

    • @RemixedVoice
      @RemixedVoice 3 года назад +14

      @@InVinoVeratas Jay is also white, but he's hotter now than he was a decade ago lol. It's definitely the diabetes

  • @SuperEndiku
    @SuperEndiku 7 лет назад +25

    Mike really nailed the Wonder Woman costume and imagery.

  • @Rfp601
    @Rfp601 2 года назад +4

    My favorite part in Superman IV is when we witness the birth of Nuclear Man and he grows his bad bitch acrylic nails

  • @eddyk3
    @eddyk3 11 лет назад +2

    People are forgetting, Rich Evans isn't one of these movie critics that everyone appears to hate, he IS a Superman fanboy... which is probably why he was invited to join in this review.
    And if he hates it, you know it's bad.

  • @JDubya2k
    @JDubya2k 10 лет назад +22

    2:02 That Superman 3 woman turns into robot scene scared the crap out of me when I was 6 Rich! Scary robot lady! Noooooooo

  • @dante224real1
    @dante224real1 9 лет назад +80

    thank god for james gunn, george miller, edgar wright, david cronenburg, that fucker who made birdman, and anybody i missed who made amazing things in the past couple years.
    yeah cronenburg and george miller have been around for 50 years in the directing world, but they are still doing cool shit. props to those boys!

    • @til_thasmokeclearz853
      @til_thasmokeclearz853 8 лет назад +3

      the fucker who made birdman is named alejandro gonzalez inarritu

    • @til_thasmokeclearz853
      @til_thasmokeclearz853 8 лет назад

      rascist.. remember the white guys names right

    • @GatorMilk
      @GatorMilk 8 лет назад

      +Daniel Williams What does Cronenburg have to do with shitty superhero movies?

    • @dante224real1
      @dante224real1 8 лет назад +2

      not much. but at least we have his movies to distract us from terrible superhero movies.

    • @MLdoktor
      @MLdoktor 8 лет назад

      +Daniel Williams ye that fucker is kinda good:)

  • @mouthmw
    @mouthmw 8 лет назад +16

    The Superman 3 robot scene scared the SHIT out of me when I was a kid. I would have nightmares based on that robowitch!

  • @RoulinBrooks
    @RoulinBrooks 11 лет назад +3

    You guys should do a full review of Superman III and IV. God knows there's enough there to work with.

  • @highlandcommando
    @highlandcommando 9 лет назад +43

    DC have looked at what Marvel has achieved, and simply want some money . Rather than spend a little time on each characters story, and slowly build up the universe they have simply went straight to the best source material in my opinion (Frank Millers DKR) and are running with it. So far they have 70 years of these characters adventures and the best they have come up with is a sour, sullen hobo esque Superman, and a all new Joker who looks like a goths girlfriend.

    • @tamelo
      @tamelo 9 лет назад +1

      ***** Miller JL was canned because Chris Nolan didn´t want a compeating Batman, he even blocked most of DCU references in MoS.
      WIth him out of the picture Warner went all crossuniverse.

    • @jonslade17
      @jonslade17 9 лет назад +9

      highlandcommando True, but I hate that in Batman v. Superman they're making it like DKR because that story worked because it was about old batman coming out of retirement and seeing how much the world had changed. They dont have any of what made the story of DKR work in the movie because the setting is completely different

    • @ghostapostle7225
      @ghostapostle7225 8 лет назад +2

      +Jon Reising and now we see the results of that.

    • @dragonphoreal
      @dragonphoreal 8 лет назад

      DARK KNIGHT RETURNS should have been made into the 3rd Nolan Batman movie instead of Dark Knight Rises, so that they could incorporate that version of Batman into the DCEU. And, heck, maybe it would even have a new Batsuit that looked like the Frank Miller TDKR batsuit with the bigger and "fatter" bat logo (it looks epic as a logo anyway).

    • @dragonphoreal
      @dragonphoreal 8 лет назад +1

      +Estar Guareando Kind of wished George Miller was the one they chose to make this JL movie instead of Zack Snyder. Maybe George Miller would even serve as lead visionary of DCEU, producing all other DC movies and keep the franchise in a coherent narrative and vision like Kevin Feige.

  • @flowerpt
    @flowerpt 11 лет назад +2

    I foolishly brought my six-year-old to see this but he totally owned the analysis: "They should have just called it 'The Blowing Things Up Movie'."

  • @stickmanhistory8598
    @stickmanhistory8598 6 лет назад +3

    What gets me about Man of Steel is that they try to make Superman - *the flying, near-immortal guy who can shoot lasers out of his eyes and freeze people by breathing on them* - grounded in reality.

  • @Kuuenbu
    @Kuuenbu 9 лет назад +35

    "How the hell do you make Wonder Woman dark, brooding, gritty serious?"
    Make her a Tumblr feminist, that's how.
    "I can't see children watching this."
    Kids these days play _Call of Duty_ and the newer _Grand Theft Auto_ games and listen to nu-metal while their parents aren't watching. Of course they'll dig the shit out of the "new" grimdark Superman.

    • @fmsyntheses
      @fmsyntheses 9 лет назад +10

      +rustybender You have to be joking. They aren't talking about 12-year olds. Young children will be bored/scared by this.

    • @masonjames7769
      @masonjames7769 8 лет назад +4

      are you 90

    • @joshbouman1654
      @joshbouman1654 8 лет назад +1

      When I was 7 years old I played the shit out of GTA 3 and my favourite band was Linkin Park. Hardly say this is some new phenomenon. I will say however I loved Batman and Robin so yeah Man of Steel would've bored me as a kid.

  • @MrAlternateTheory
    @MrAlternateTheory 8 лет назад +1

    That woman turning into a robot was nightmare fuel watching it as a kid... And yeah I loved that scene as a kid

  • @sth128
    @sth128 11 лет назад +3

    Dammit! I was looking forward to Wonder Woman changing into her costume inside her invisible jet!

  • @chekeichan
    @chekeichan 11 лет назад +3

    When MoS comes out on DVD, I'm ripping it and putting it through iMovie's unshaky mode.

  • @JessicaChastainFan
    @JessicaChastainFan 10 лет назад +46

    Half in the Baaaaaaaaaaaag. I don't even know what this show issss happening. >:D
    Man of Steel is terrible in every conceivable way. A mess of a script accompanied by incompetent writing and direction. Completely agree with Mike and friends.

    • @Bear2Roo
      @Bear2Roo 10 лет назад +21

      Not true. I rather enjoyed the stock footage of the polar bears

    • @4Everlast
      @4Everlast 10 лет назад

      Bear2Roo Snider could cut the last 30-40 min. out make sups and the army fight the mashine part ower Metropolis, and destroying it, would disabile the other part-one can't work without the other, witch could be a good superman solo film seqval, bring in aqvaman, Lex trying to get his hands on It, a war faught in the middle of the ocean, and sups having to stop It throwing the thing on the moon or into the sun...

  • @cgdimension
    @cgdimension 3 года назад +1

    the cut bizarro sequence is so funny

  • @UnidentifiedBA
    @UnidentifiedBA 11 лет назад +1

    Holy shit, that construction worker has the exact same type of laugh as Rich Evans!

  • @RFC-3514
    @RFC-3514 2 года назад +2

    3:23 - The direction has nothing to do with it. He's speeding up until he's going faster than light, so _he_ travels back in time (and gets a second chance).

  • @heirofaniu
    @heirofaniu 8 лет назад +27

    Zack Snyder's biggest issue as a director is that he writes his scenes before he writes his movies, and with movies like 300 and Sucker Punch that works because they're all zany and whacky and fun to watch. But when he tries to be serious it's almost like he's writing 40K fanfiction, Snyder just seems to think that "mature" means "edgy".

    • @heirofaniu
      @heirofaniu 7 лет назад

      But then who does?

    • @chrismalott7171
      @chrismalott7171 7 лет назад +3

      He wrote sucker punch. Which doesn't work at all.

    • @heirofaniu
      @heirofaniu 7 лет назад

      Sucker Punch is fine if you're just looking for a brainless time waster. The visuals are nice at least.

    • @chrismalott7171
      @chrismalott7171 7 лет назад +6

      The problem is he claims that he wrote it as a statement on how women are sexualized by our movie industry and the fans for suckerpunch act like it's this deep and philosophical movie that "normies" don't understand.

    • @heirofaniu
      @heirofaniu 7 лет назад

      chris malott
      That's a problem with the fans, not the movie. But I agree, fuck those people.

  • @SpecialAgentBillMaxwell
    @SpecialAgentBillMaxwell 4 года назад +2

    I remember watching Superman III in the theater as a kid. The part where Richard Pryor reprograms the crosswalks and the little crosswalk guys start fighting was the funniest thing I had ever seen. For that reason, 5 year old me gives it 4 stars 2 thumbs up, and a Rotten Tomatoes Certified Fresh.

  • @OpenMawProductions
    @OpenMawProductions 11 лет назад +1

    The two progenitors of this style were probably Saving Private Ryan and Battlestar Galactica. Basically, they just took documentary "style" (which is to say, documentaries are filmed sometimes rather hectically in handheld fashion to capture a moment that can't be done on a steadycam for obvious reasons) and put it into a full budget production. The style, I find, works best when it's used sparingly or intelligently.

  • @blakerichardsondude
    @blakerichardsondude 11 лет назад

    If you actually listened to it in context, another important English skill, they go on to talk about how they didn't like the shaky cam. The "close-ups" was skimmed over and they proceeded to talk about the scene with Clark and Pa Kent where the camera wouldn't stay still. He didn't actually say the close ups were bad, just that the camera shaking during them was.

  • @dante224real1
    @dante224real1 9 лет назад +36

    the new wonderwoman movie will be about an orphan girl who gets adopted by the amazonians who look and operate like a lord of the rings society, and then some evil corperate guy bombs the living fuck out of their city, and wonder woman is the only survivor. she escapes to downtown metro city where she has to turn tricks in order to survive. then, while pouting over the loss of her home, she is abused by 3 pimps in an ally way, and she defends herself for the first time. she breaks all the bones in their bodies and uses a garbage dosposal unit to finish them off. then, after she realizes the power her people entrusted on her, she goes back to the ruins of amazonia where she finds the whip of the gods, and it just so happens to go with her whore outfit. then the ghost of the amazonian queen comes back to train her in the ways of the wonder woman, and she goes out to get vengance on the man who killed her home. then after killing her way to the top of the big man's evil business tower, she finally confronts him and she finds out that her best friend when she was a kid works in cahoots with the big evil guy and she has to kill her. then after she's conflicted about everything and has murdered a billion fucking people she goes off on a quest to find herself. roll credits. cue 99.999% on rotten tomatoes from dummies.
    this is literally beat for beat of what i predict the new wonder whore movie to be.

    • @Dragblacker
      @Dragblacker 8 лет назад +3

      Quiet! Hollywood hacks are probably reading this for ideas.

    • @dante224real1
      @dante224real1 8 лет назад +2

      oh god they are doing it arent they?
      CHECK PLEASE! MAKE IT OUT TO DANIEL

    • @matthillfromcollege4109
      @matthillfromcollege4109 7 лет назад +1

      Dan -Horsenwelles- Williams well there are some similarities I guess, there was definitely an alley fight and a twist with a friend working with the guys who discovered her island

  • @17enan
    @17enan 11 лет назад +20

    I LOVE YOU JAY, YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE A REAL WOMAN

  • @RaymLovesEggs
    @RaymLovesEggs 6 лет назад +3

    That freakin' scene in Superman 3 with the robot lady, though... Gave me nightmares as a wee lad.

  •  11 лет назад +1

    Guys, you making me tons of money - thx for that! Nowdays I don't even watch movies, just watch your reviews ---> job done, no money/time wasted --> just great!

  • @Samination
    @Samination 11 лет назад +6

    Yeah, I agree with you. I think the original Superman movies (especially the first one) were not made for kids. As a kid, I found the first one boring and scary, but I did like parts of the second one, mostly just the bad guys.

  • @SwiftNimblefoot
    @SwiftNimblefoot 6 лет назад +2

    Well, Wonder Woman came out and it was nothing like you predicted...

  • @augustwest5356
    @augustwest5356 8 лет назад +12

    I don't care what anyone says. fuck all these new comic book movies. Hollywood COMPLETELY ran out of ideas 10 years ago and now it's nothing but remakes and borrowed IPs. I'm going back to watching paint dry

    • @frogambassador
      @frogambassador 7 лет назад +4

      August West i think movies have always been made from existing IPs

  • @BurnRoddy
    @BurnRoddy 10 лет назад +1

    Wonder Woman can be dark and gritty, she's an amazonian princess.
    Just look at Xeena.

  • @ThePinkMan
    @ThePinkMan 11 лет назад +4

    I'm looking forward to that gritty reboot of The Avengers we'll get in twenty years or less. All the teenagers are going to be looking up clips of the 2012 film and comment how corny it is and how much better movies are in the 2030's.

  • @Yamikaiba123
    @Yamikaiba123 11 лет назад +1

    I might agree with Lois Lane not being used substantially enough, and Zod's plan not making sense.

  • @ImmaDeacon
    @ImmaDeacon 11 лет назад

    actually they do
    they are spot on

  • @HollowRangiku
    @HollowRangiku 11 лет назад +1

    Everyone's totally doing nerd rage. Let me put my two cents in! Alright! Metropolis is actually not far from Gotham. And I'm going completely based off of Batman Year One and the game DC Online. I mean, I can fly there in under five minutes! And that's without super speed! My character's pretty awesome. This one time at band camp, Batman actually complimented me on doing a "job well done". Bats is so nice...and hot.

  • @GameHopping
    @GameHopping 11 лет назад

    I could just see some Hollywood exec taking notes during that Wonder Woman movie description.

  • @josesarango3408
    @josesarango3408 4 года назад +2

    sure that guy Ryan Reynolds blew it with Green Lantern. I bet his career is ruined

  • @codediporpal
    @codediporpal 11 лет назад

    Thanks guys, you saved $11.
    Maybe I'll use that money some day to buy a couple of 40s and watch the first half of Superman MoS on video before I pass out.

  • @poshko41
    @poshko41 11 лет назад

    I always imagined the blue light eye power to be a more efficient form of "flying so fast around the world it reverses time." He honed the skill and perfected it... Yeah...

  • @abrahamwashington375
    @abrahamwashington375 11 лет назад

    I loved this movie, loved the characters and the tone it set for the future dc movies. However I can totally see and understand each point these guys make.

  • @Vaporvice84
    @Vaporvice84 11 лет назад

    Nah, these guys got it all wrong. The reason the camera was shaking so much during the dramatic flashbacks is because we were experiencing Clark's inner torment. His mind was all confused and conflicted. It was JARRING, man!! It was an artistic choice!! You people just don't get it!! Shaky Cam explores shaky/rocky emotions!!

  • @LordSavok
    @LordSavok 11 лет назад

    It's funny because Superman/Batman stuff works because of the contrast between them. Superman in the light, Batman in the dark. What MoS did was completely destroy that dynamic.

  • @Kris_A
    @Kris_A 11 лет назад

    If you haven't seen Superman 2 : The Richard Donner Cut, I'd really recommend it. It is quite different to the version that most of us are familiar with.
    There is no Paris Eiffel Tower sequence at all. It is hard to explain why it is better, you just need to see it.It all just seems to make more sense, and is generally a little less silly.
    tldr: It is a lot lot better... comes highly recommended.

  • @HrotyAlgernona
    @HrotyAlgernona 3 года назад +2

    "She won't have an invisible plane!" - ohh poor dummy Jay he was soooooooooo WRONG HERE!

    • @ThePinkMan
      @ThePinkMan 3 года назад +3

      This video came out years before DC changed gears, though.

  • @Gurianthe
    @Gurianthe 10 лет назад +29

    I can see DC releasing that Wonder Woman movie

    • @unclesporkums
      @unclesporkums 10 лет назад +6

      Same here...

    • @WILDFIRE101
      @WILDFIRE101 8 лет назад +1

      Well it's happening

    • @92brunod
      @92brunod 4 года назад

      @E because it wasn't Snyder's. They clearly changed the tone

  • @tz64nk41
    @tz64nk41 11 лет назад

    I even think the Superman/Batman Apocalypse animated film works fairly well, in spite of major plotting and pacing issues, because at least it concentrates on giving every character a bit of personality. The other more recent animated films do it even better. Doing it live action requires far more care, I'm like the RLM guys in wondering if I even want to see one if it's like MoS - even though I like MoS, mostly.

  • @tz64nk41
    @tz64nk41 11 лет назад

    That's what I'd always assumed he was doing (I grew up with Trek so it made sense to me). The possibility that a)he turned the world backwards and b) that reversed time on the Earth is such a whole order of magnitude more silly that it never even occurred to me.

  • @kev3d
    @kev3d 11 лет назад

    Marvel was bought by Disney in 2009, with the first few X Men films were done by Marvel Entertainment, but distributed (which is not the same as produced) by 20th Century Fox, as you said.

  • @keimakoh
    @keimakoh 11 лет назад

    Batman had the "founded ground" of Adam West before the masses got the Burton Batman. People complained back then too, while the comic readers were ready thanks to stories like the Miller's Dark Knight Returns.
    Now we got a different Superman that's arguably a bit darker but not really. And every single comic reader has seen that Superman before and can find it's in line with the usual character, albeit in a bad day.
    The movie didn't need to be Silver Age Superman nor another Donner film.

  • @VenusHeadTrap2
    @VenusHeadTrap2 3 года назад

    Boy how times have changed

  • @minbari73
    @minbari73 11 лет назад

    I really enjoyed this version of Superman. Alas my 7yo boy was doing the exact same thing described in this video, restless and impatient and at one point he turned to me and said "Daddy, why isn't this funny?" I did wonder during the dramatic scenes what this film would like if run through a video stabilizer!

  • @jdorritie
    @jdorritie 5 лет назад

    Replying to Mike, I know I'm not the first one to say this but, in the animated Justice League movies Batman and Superman work well in the same universe because it's a little corny but also somewhat serious but not over the top violent. It works where they're not sure who the villain is or what their plan is. Superman and Wonder Woman and like Green Arrow are doing this or that, and Batman is up at the Justice League headquarters that he paid for (of course) basically being the group's super cop. He investigates and digs through old records and when he shows up he has like a Bat-Jet or something. He's useful when Brainiac or the talking gorilla have like a piece of krytonite or kidnap Superman or something. He's dark but in the RIGHT way he's dark and cynical in contrast to Superman and his optimism. It makes no fucking sense to have both of them be dark.
    Seriously. If you've never seen them, the animated Justice League universe is really pretty decent. I don't do the TV show but they'll have like, 85 minute movies that tell a neat clever story and have some superhero action and a little something for everyone to do and some decent voice acting to boot. I know a few of them are on Hulu. The last one I saw was very dark because it had Constantine who I guess is a character now? I dont follow it all like I used to but I mean, if you WANT a movie with batman and Superman that isn't DUMB AS FUCK, the only ones you're ever going to get are the animated ones. Thank you for coming to my web zone. Email me if you want a pizza roll.

  • @mjgamerboy
    @mjgamerboy 11 лет назад

    Batman and Superman do exist in the same universe. They communicate and fight together pretty often. The fact that they have different tones and characters forces them to either find a median or to clash as different types of superheros.

  • @jsmith3011992
    @jsmith3011992 11 лет назад

    "and she'll snap it around a pimps neck and KUUCHH!.... wonder woman!...."
    Funny as fuck!

  • @Lineage2ErtheiaPvP
    @Lineage2ErtheiaPvP 11 лет назад

    it s not about beeing dark or whatnot, it s about the INNER DRAMA Of a character, consider ur life, ur experiences, it s not ALL happy or ALL SAD, it s shades in between. and the superman movie touched that part rly well.!

  • @andStack
    @andStack 11 лет назад +1

    The problem is the assumption that a movie is basically a slider between action and plot/characters.
    Man of Steel isn't bad because there was too much fighting. It's because it was so corny, and all the characters were so boring, and the action was really ridiculous (not the quantity).
    A movie like The Dark Knight shows that you can have a ton of action, but if you don't forget about things like writing, pacing, and characters, it can still be a very smart movie and ultimately more enjoyable.

  • @racewiththefalcons1
    @racewiththefalcons1 11 лет назад

    I wish you were able to understand that he was beginning a new train of thought by beginning a new sentence "the one that really bothered me was...", and that this new statement does not, in any way, discount the previous statement about how shooting in close-up instead of in a mannered and varied style was a problem.

  • @leeray666
    @leeray666 11 лет назад +1

    I took my five year old son to this film. (he's seen all the others)
    I really did feel sorry for him.

  • @charlemagnebrown
    @charlemagnebrown 3 года назад

    That robot scene in Superman III absolutely terrified me as a child. It's still good but admittedly a little goofy now.

  • @HoneyMike
    @HoneyMike 2 года назад +1

    I didn't see the shadow Mike was talking about

  • @blakerichardsondude
    @blakerichardsondude 11 лет назад

    You need to pay attention to what they're actually saying. It's not the fact that they're close ups, it's the fact that the camera is so shaky.

  • @MAJ0R_TOM
    @MAJ0R_TOM 11 лет назад

    Not once in the movie was I thinking they were making Superman out to be like Dark Knight. I found this version of Superman to for ONCE have a Superman that's relatable.

  • @Gramatha
    @Gramatha 11 лет назад

    I hate myself for saying this, but that description of a gritty Wonder Woman movie sounds sort of awesome

  • @MohdTaufiq91
    @MohdTaufiq91 11 лет назад

    This is the funniest comment excuse for a shaky cam i've ever read.

  • @GurrenPrime
    @GurrenPrime 11 лет назад

    Talking about the Justice League in this universe made me want to see a Nolan Aquaman movie.

  • @aedrianys
    @aedrianys 8 лет назад +20

    you're like The Beatles of movie criticism

    • @roach9397
      @roach9397 8 лет назад +6

      Except the Beatles were popular and these guys aren't nearly popular enough.

    • @roach9397
      @roach9397 7 лет назад +1

      damian x ....

    • @YorwerthHiraeth
      @YorwerthHiraeth 7 лет назад +1

      How does it feel to be both subjectively and objectively wrong?

  • @xtrmjedileal
    @xtrmjedileal 10 лет назад +8

    That lady robot is creepy

  • @SilasMortimer
    @SilasMortimer 11 лет назад

    Yes, a lot of people enjoyed it. Also, a lot of people are looking forward to "Grown Ups 2". So you're in... well, company, anyway.

  • @tz64nk41
    @tz64nk41 11 лет назад

    I thought about that show immediately as soon as they brought it up. I really hope they DON'T make her dark, we really don't need every DC character to be dark and angsty.

  • @nothri
    @nothri 11 лет назад

    I still think you could just take the script from the Wonderwoman TV pilot, make it into a big budget movie, and you;ve got your Warner Brothers character!

  • @wally6938
    @wally6938 11 лет назад

    I honestly look at this film as the first act of a three part play. Perhaps he's not the Superman we've known yet but he will be by the next film. I though it was a good film with some room to improve. I didn't feel it was that dark personally. I suppose it was in comparison to the Donner films but not so much so that it bothered me.

  • @astrobollo
    @astrobollo 11 лет назад

    The first production of Marvel Studios was Iron Man, all movies prior to that where made by Fox, Sony Pictures, etc.

  • @racewiththefalcons1
    @racewiththefalcons1 11 лет назад

    I like how they complain about all the close-ups in this movie, yet Nolan's films are 90% close-up.
    People need to pay attention to something more than their own preconceived notions.

  • @ADMcKinnon
    @ADMcKinnon 11 лет назад +1

    I feel the same way, let them tell the whole story first.

  • @Imanmagnet00
    @Imanmagnet00 11 лет назад

    No, they are criticizing the movie for trying to turn Superman into Christopher Nolan's Batman, which everyone loves because it suits the character and environment, Superman is supposed to be this shining beacon of hope for everyone which is something we don't get in the movie at all, I still liked it though, just didn't like the tone. Also, the comic fan thing, movies are movies, you need to be able to enjoy them regardless of its source material to attract and entertain all audiences.

  • @dragonknightleader1
    @dragonknightleader1 11 лет назад

    I thought the reason why they chose shaky cam in flashbacks was to show that Clarke's memory of events is imperfect, human.
    Anyways, while I find the drifter scenes to be very bizarre for Kent, the whole point of the movie was to write an adolescent Superman who finally gets a chance to cut loose, not knowing what exactly the consequences are. In this sense, MoS did this pretty well and it's not so different from JLU Superman.

  • @calaphasto
    @calaphasto 11 лет назад

    I saw a lot of that in the RLM webzone comment thread, and laughed my arse off. There is no way to take those people seriously! "Marvelites?! Seriously? Are you like five?!!"

  • @FelixTheory
    @FelixTheory 11 лет назад

    They really need to stop compering it with the Donner films and start getting what the comics are like.

  • @neoarcadia546
    @neoarcadia546 11 лет назад

    So basically what you guys are saying......is that the wonder woman movie will be written by frank miller.

  • @alwaysxnever
    @alwaysxnever 11 лет назад

    That is if what you were looking for was more of what we are used to anyway. I personally wanted a different Superman than I had seen before.

  • @FrancoisDressler
    @FrancoisDressler 6 лет назад +2

    No mentions that Jay looks like Snyder...

  • @DangerasTM
    @DangerasTM 11 лет назад

    Actually there is a book all about Batman and Superman teaming up. And its freaking awesome. It can work when its done right.

  •  11 лет назад

    I would love a good Wonder Woman movie. It could be like the Charlie's Angels movies.

  • @stereotypical213
    @stereotypical213 11 лет назад

    That wonderwoman premise isn't actually far off from what they'd probably do.

  • @badjokemaker3051
    @badjokemaker3051 8 лет назад

    Yes Mike! Batman should have face of with the Punisher and Daredevil and all that. Fuck legal issues!

  • @hUMERETURNs
    @hUMERETURNs 11 лет назад

    As to your last point, a lot of people did enjoy this, who arn't comic fans, have you seen the returns? My only real problem with MoS is that it wasn't enough like the source material, (Birthright, Earth 1, Last Days of Krypton) but at least it took from more sources than the stereotypes like these guys want, or from just the Donner film(s).

  • @85481
    @85481 11 лет назад

    I liked it but his suit could have been a shade brighter without the webbing, take away the zod finale, show metropolis being evacuated, make it more obvious that zod is keeping the fight in the city so it doesn't look like superman just doesn't care. I think this would lighten it enough for it to be a "serious" superman film without trying to be superman begins. I wouldn't have been bothered if superman had literally punched zod into the phantom zone. He's superman.

  • @Epsilonsama
    @Epsilonsama 11 лет назад

    Man of Steel is NOT a kids movie. This movie is NOT even a family film. Just because the movie is about Superman does not make it into a kids film. Its rated PG-13 for a reason. Or do you think The Dark Knight was also a kids movie?

  • @rushzful
    @rushzful 11 лет назад

    I don't even want a Justice League movie anymore if it's going to be anything like Man of Steel.

  • @DangerasTM
    @DangerasTM 11 лет назад

    Yeah. I also hate all the people hopping on the Superman Band Wagon thinking thats what superman really is.

  • @billtree52
    @billtree52 11 лет назад

    I agree with Rich Evans, they gotta lighten this fucking shit up. Especially with a Flash movie just around the corner, they can't have the Flash be a dark and brooding character like Batman, or the Superman of this film. They don't have to do a complete reboot of Green Lantern either. They managed to fit a new Hulk and Hawkeye into the Avengers without giving them their own movies. And Black Widow too. DC get your shit together!

  • @Epsilonsama
    @Epsilonsama 11 лет назад

    I think a Superman film does not need to be extremely violent. That being said, parents should check the rating of the films and decide if its appropriate for a kid to watch a PG-13 movie that's rated that way for extreme violence. Hell my niece likes Batman but we never let her watch TDK until she is old enough to understand the implications of extreme violence.

  • @MrSeyker
    @MrSeyker 11 лет назад

    If they were shocked by Man of Steel, just wait until they see Wonder Woman snap some bad guy's neck without so much as a hint of distress.
    She doesn't give a fuck!

  • @VenusHeadTrap2
    @VenusHeadTrap2 11 лет назад

    jay uploaded this one? Is anyone going to watch this now?