This lock passes the only test that actually matters: “Anyone determined enough to get into this lock would be determined enough to get in no matter what”
@@kakerake6018 exactly. So there comes a certain point where making a lock even stronger/more pick resistant doesn’t actually improve the security because after a certain point it’s at a level such that if someone gets past the lock, nothing would stop them anyway.
@@Vgamer311 That's when it's time to focus on to other methods of security: putting the bike behind a locked door, putting up cameras, etc Edit: Jesus y’all I get it, cameras suck. Get a guard dog or something.
Honestly, despite the fact that he did pick this, it's easily the longest I ever seen him need to pick a lock. Also, he said it took him a bit of trial and error to understand how to even go about doing the pick. So, this will almost definitely completely stump 99.999% of thieves.
Thieves don't pick locks, they come in with their angle grinder or heavy duty bolt cutters and are done in 10 seconds. I once saved my brompton from being stolen by exiting the bar at the exact time 3 teenagers cut the lock. This was in broad daylight with a lot of people sitting 5 meters away on the terras of the bar. Nobody picks locks, except as a hobby
@@mrbuushy3029 Nah, that wasn't my point. Of course he knows the difference between a pick that's good enough, and one that's too smooth, but he doesn't tell the viewer exactly what he means by too smooth. That makes it difficult for the audience to relate to that. For example; there are many surfaces to a pick, so which part of the pick is "too smooth"?
You jest but I spent a summer learning picking, and ended up with a variety of random ass locks without any keys. lol The mood will take you, and once you have your own little set, you're shall I say... Locked in. XD
So... RUclips randomly recommended a single video from this channel and now I've spent about 2 hours watching a stranger picking locks and reviewing safes.
This is picking in absolutely ideal conditions by probably the best lock picking guy on the planet, picking a lock that he examined in detail prior to making this video. Id say this is a very good lock. In "field" conditions with bad position, pressure, not knowing the key and all, this would be hard to impossible lock to pick...
Y'all complaining about how The Lockpicking Lawyer isn't acknowledging how this would be impossible in a real-life situation, but the whole point of these videos is to show how nothing is 100% unpickable. Yes, this lock requires a whole lot of preparation and a little luck to be pickable in a real life situation, but it's not 100% pick proof. If anything, this video has given me a reason to buy this lock since the Lawyer had to actually try in order to pick it.
Seriously? It's not 100% pick proof on well lit table. Try doing it on bike, properly locked facing inside of the wheel, it will be impossible without 30+ minutes even for him. It's really dumb claim, he almost fucked up 3/4 of the way in even in perfect conditions, had it been on bike not only it would take him 10x longer, but that mistake would mean starting over...
KuK137 The man picked a lock, and that’s it. He didn’t spin ANY sort of narrative about the lock’s effectiveness in real world applications. You appear to be getting defensive over nothing.
Ok this is pickproof for a professional who will never try his knowledge on stealing bikes so its pick proof for normal unprepared and illiterate thieves
@@borutb11 at some point adding more security to a lock is futile, if someone is determined enough they'll get in no matter what and making a lock impossible to pick just means it can't be opened by the user. At that point there are better options to getting. Which would make it useless.
@@borutb11 Yes, people lose keys all the time, so sometimes it is important to have a lock that can be picked. The key point here however, is that they should take a very long time to pick, long enough that anyone that might be inclined to try would be deterred. After all, there is no lock that can’t be picked with enough force and energy, not to mention the thing that the lock is attached to.
@@borutb11 That's a disk lock. If you are determined enough to steal the motorcicle... you can just change the freaking disk! But I bet a thief woudn't do that in the middle of the street.
@@toddlower5546 The purpose of locking a hot component that's essential for safe travel is because if one is removing it in a parking area,, it's plausible that they're the owner so no one will question it. But if you're trying to haul the whole bike away, another biker will immediately question why.
@@no_rubbernecking ehhh not really. A great majority of people are too afraid of conflict, so you can steal a motorcycle in broad daylight and the chance of interference from a person is slim.
Yeah i just pointed out that he is picking locks in the most favorable of conditions with all the time in the world to do so. When you're trying to use those same skills to ahem "borrow" the motorcycle of a stranger, you have to pick it in an unfavorable position most of the time all the while looking over your shoulder every few seconds. So yeah, pick proof for a novice, but even experts probably won't bother picking them.
@@Kazeshini11 lel, he is showing how to lock pick them, I think he could easily do this when he needs to steal a motorcycle. Even while showing it slowly most locks are done under a minute.. so he probably can make it look like he has trouble with his key.. most people use shitty locks anyway
@@jeroenvandenbulk The Idea with a lock like this is to put the keyway facing the spokes of the bike so you have to reach through them. Most people will look at that and find an easier target.
Thieves don't pick locks...any lock...ever. A thief will load the whole motorcycle, lock and all, on a truck and cut it off at their convenience. The two main tools of a thief are a crowbar and hammer.
When you are about to buy a lock, but not sure if its a good one, but then see LPL has a video about it that is over 4 minutes long, so you know its a good lock
@@goggypoggy dont know if theres irony in what you say, but if youre serious, lock picking is not that easy. He makes it look easy, but only because he is so good 😅
The funny thing is that the handcuffs and leg shackles that make people feel so safe when they see criminals in them don't even need to be picked to be opened. I had a "colorful" childhood and one thing we learned - that has never been fixed on newer handcuffs - is that if you can score one of the large paper clips (not hard to do) you can unbend it and push it into the ratcheting mechanism to depress it and back the cuff or shackle off fairly easily with no lock picking skill whatsoever. The actual cuffs can be quite hard to pick behind your back but we could always get them off blind with that trick. It takes very little practice to do successfully every time.
@@LordPadriac What you're describing is called "shimming", and yes, it's much faster and easier than picking a lock. Basically, if a lock doesn't need a key to lock, it's shimmable. Some lock designs with springs just make shimming harder.
"This lock is pick proof." Oh no, they really shouldn't have said that. They should have gone with "pick resistant," that might not have called forth the beast.
Strangely enough, whereas I usually find this meme to be 'meh' at best, it actually works perfectly here, almost like it was tailor made for this video. It's pretty funny this time. Good call by the OP.
@@JohnSmith-mk1rj Well, you are very right. I didn't even notice that I have seen this same meme many times before, because it blends so well to the subject of the video
I was curious and got myself this lock to try and replicate the picking. The most difficult part for me was finding a tensioner that didn't constantly slip. After that, setting the pins definitely didn't require a miracle. It's a shame they didn't include security pins. All in all, it was fun to pick. And now I have a good lock for my bike. Because no one is going to pick this spontaneously.
I would like to mention, anytime you see indentations on that location be *very* concerned. Thats not a handcuff indentation, or if it is, its improper usage. You can actually *hurt* someone with that.
So if they fix mistakes: firmly connect 2 shafts with gear, remove teeth inside keyholes, made keyhole slots oval shape, so not tension device can be used, IDK how it could be picked. Almost perfect!
@GeorgieTheMonkE It's like running away from a bear: You don't have to run faster than the bear, you only need to run faster than your friend. In real life, would-be thieves will stay away from this lock and target an easier-to-pick lock.
If you told me 5 years ago that I'd spend my time watching some dude pick locks, getting genuinely excited as the next one looks a fucker to open, I'd weep.
Imagine you arrest the lockpickinglawyer and you handcuff him to the back of the police car, you drive to the police station and you hear “nice click on one, two is binding, nothing on 3, aand we got this open” you turn around and he’s not there
"Nothing particularly hard about it, picking this is really not an issue." You only need professional tools, several years of specific training and a lot of talent. Easy.
@@marcgoodman4862 Even just that, though, looking at how much he varies the tension with his left thumb while aslo holding the lock with that hand, just getting the tesnioning right is an art in itself
well, "professional tools" to the same degree that you need professional tools to pick any lock. it was a couple random sparrow tension wrenches and a pretty standard pick.
@@Dormant6996 Nah, he got an unpickable lock from Germany. Also theoretically, the StuffMadeHere lock if not for its easily fixable design flaws would be also unpickable.
@@StarfoxHUN if it's not a lock then it doesn't matter if it's pickable or not. The German "lock" was a sticker if you're talking about that. Also, LPL mentioned that "There is no lock that I can't pick, but there is some locks that I can't pick, yet." Every man-made thing has flaws that can be improved over time. In the matter of locks, locksmiths and lock pickers also improve. No different when we relate to computer world. The security guys and systems improve, so do the hackers and their tools.
Honestly, this seems like the trickiest and "best" lock of all your videos yet, that I've seen. I've been waiting on a dual key lock with a reset spring, because that seems intuitively very fool proof and difficult to pick with only two hands. If only the left lock had a stronger spring in it, so that it couldn't be left picked and ready to turn, this lock would be very tricky, indeed. The key holes individually may be easily picked, but the combination is very nifty, which is something I'd like to see in a pad lock, tbh.
imagine if the key was like a pincer and you had to insert a key from opposite sides, combined with a strong return spring, would make that the biggest pain in the ass to pick
99% of criminals don't pick locks, they break them. In the case of a motorcycle, which this is a lock for, you just load the whole motorcycle into a trailer and drive off. Remove the lock at your leisure.
It may not be “pick proof”, but since LPL is the only person who would be able to pick it and I assume he is not a thief, then it’s as good as pickproof
There's just one thing you are overseeing: If you don't care about the lock or about the challenge, you can always apply force. Even if a lock was really pick-proof, that doesn't mean that it cannot easily be destroyed. Some locks are really hard to pick but if you can apply any amount of force, you can still break them open in less than 30 seconds, they are just unusable afterwards.
This is interesting. I think a way to make this lock even more annoying to pick would be to have the cores spring-loaded, so that it resets itself to neutral if no tension is on it. That way you can't leave e.g. the left core half-picked while working on the right core, you have to keep two tension wrenches in at all times. You could also try to remove the nub to make it even harder for a tension wrench to find purchase. Not impossible, of course, but it would probably make picking this lock much more annoying.
I thought the same. It would be definitely more annoying and maybe also take a longer time since one might slip off and has to restart everything from the beginning
I’d say it’s save enough. Anyone who’s determined to steal your bike wouldn’t even try to open it in public. Why bother with picking the lock, when it’s much easier and faster to steal the whole bike with the lock still on?
In 1970, I entered the United States Army, and reported to Fort Lewis Washington for Basic Combat Training. Every soldier was first given their flying 20 advanced payment, then marched to the Post Exchange and told exactly how to spend it. One of the first items was 2 padlocks one for the wall locker and one for the foot locker. Of course each lock came with 2 keys, and being young 17 to 18 year old fellows, most promptly locked those keys in their wall locker. What to do? Well I had experience picking padlocks in High School, this before the combo locks were used, and had a tiny money clip/knife that I was allowed to keep because the blade was so tiny. I had learned I could easily pick those wall locker locks in about seven seconds using just that thin little blade. Man that blade paid for itself fifty times over during basic and AIT, everyone knew who to call when the keys were in the locker and a 2 bucks a pop, I had cigarette money for all my time in Basic. I lost that knife years ago, however not long ago, I purchase a lot of confiscated knives from the Bismarck Airport, sold through the State Surplus Store, fifteen bucks for a bag of 20 knives and there among the neat little things that were not allowed was one of those money clips, so I once again have my little lock pick, however there is rarely ever any call for such service any more.
I've no doubt you and your buddies trusted each other, but weren't you afraid that if anything went missing they might blame you? Genuine question, I'm not suggesting anything nefarious on your part or theirs, but sometimes emotions run high in those situations. Great story by the way. 😀
Taking into account that this is a disc brake lock, which you put through the perforations on your motorbike's front brake disc to deter opportunistic thieves, this looks like a pretty perfect lock to me. The lock here is certainly better than the one I have been using, always in conjunction with a heavy chain-and-lock through the rear wheel, if I park up for longer than just a few minutes.
Honestly, this is massively impressive. The fact that it took about 2 minutes for LPL to pick it after he'd had the time to study it means that this would probably deter at least 99% of thieves. This looks like an awesome lock type that should be explored more.
@@christopherfassett9973 No, my point is that if THIS specific lock had an alarm combined with the amount of time it took him it would be a pretty solid disc brake lock. Plus the angle required even though it's attached to said disc. Not that bike thieves care much about locks to begin with though.
What a cool lock! This channel makes me want to collect rare locks rather than just picking them haha the last thing I need is another collection but I know myself well enough to know fighting it is futile 🤣
I think it would be cool if he did a small series of video's where he goes out on the street and makes bets with people about how fast he can pick thier lock in real life situations. Eg. Walks up to a guy with a motorbike as he's locking it up and says "Nice bike, bet you £20 I can get your lock off in under a minute", biker laughs and says sure, then looks on in horror as he removes the lock in 15 seconds.. lol
To gie this lock some credit: Additionally to all others already refering that taking over a minute is already a "gold standard lock", this is a disk break lock. So it being installed where it belongs would make access and handling much more complicated, you can't turn it, hold it in your hand etc. I'd love seeing LPL doing this while installed on an actual bike!
If the lock was mounted on the bike, he'd have two hands to get at it, which might work in his favor. I don't think there's much point in demanding the LPL do his lockpicking outside, in the dark, while lying on his back with a headlamp.
@@intension1744 In Australia bike thieves arrive with a box trailer and two mattresses. They bodily pick up the bike and lay it on the first mattress and then cover it with the second. The police have gotten wise to this and if you carry two mattresses on a trailer they'll pull you over and look for oil stains on them.
For real I can't see a person with his skills, laying on the street trying to unlock this lock. As one commenter said, he had to figure out how this works. still, he couldn't do it as fast as usual. Plus I'm looking for this lock on Amazon, I can't find it.
@@syeungmin6204 yeah. I live in NL. Most of my bicycles got stolen within the year. They'll just cut the weakest link. I've seen my bikes get stolen because the rack I tied it to was too easy to cut. Or they bent over a street sign post, took the sign off (all that needs is a 13mm spanner) and proceded to lift the bike away, chain and all. There's a point where you basically decide that it's best to just get insurance and a lock that the insurer will approve of. I haven't paid for a new bike in almost two decades. I however keep on having to buy new insurance on my replacement bike, which is almost as expensive.
it not. mot tool is easy to easy to conceal. and it usual take up to two minutes even on high strength steel locks the best way take a wheel and have two locks on bike and the other wheel. they a best cause it a deturance
For a lot of these videos, I find myself saying "Okay, but no thief would ever do that." Locks don't have to be pick-proof, they just have to be better than the lock on the house next door. (Or motorcycle).
This isn't a thief training channel. It's a locksport channel. The point is not to gain access to things that don't belong to you. It's to defeat a challenge for the sake of it. The simple presence of a lock is enough to prevent 99% of thieves from trying to gain access that way. They'll either move to the next target, or attack a weaker link like a hinge or a window.
It's the same theory Australians have about swimming in the ocean when there's a shark about. You're safe as long as you're faster than the slowest swimmer...
Well, you also have to realize that locks work off of two principles, physical toughness, and difficulty in bypassing. Bypassing is things like picking and other non destructive (usually) manipulations of the lock mechanism. These things have to exist in balance and at a prticular level in order for a lock to be good because while the threats to locks exist on a spectrum, that spectrum adapts to the characteristics of the locks commonly found in use. The primary factor that shapes the threat spectrum is efficacy and speed. Is an attack fast, and does it work. Efficacy is judged by not only does an attack open a lock but does it allow for the intended purpose behind opening the lock to happen or does if detract from that. For instance, using one of the biggest and heaviest strongest padlocks available to secure your bike will change the threat spectrum you can expect to be brought against that lock in most situations. If its secured in an area where using a grinder on it isnt really feasible, then you might find that a determined thief WILL employ some form of bypassing to open it. If a lock is hard to destroy, it also needs to be hard to pick because while less common picking is a method used. It would make little sense to put a standard masterlock core in a squire stronghold lock body because if that lock becomes the average lock used fo secure high value assets, thieves will study it to figure out how to defeat it. When they study it, they will find a soft 5 pin core with only 4 stacks used and realize that all they need to open it is a wave rake and a tensioner and they can open it while looking like they are usong the key. The reason most theft of secured assets involves destructive attacks is because the percieved difficulty of picking or bypassing low quality locks and sort of the social stigma that somehow still exists on people who are interested in lock sport, and because even moderately decent lock cores are relatively cheap and common. This makes brute force more common because its a more generalized method, a crowbar and a hammer can open a myriad types of locked boxes because they can be used in myriad ways. A wave rake and a tensioner can only open a specific set of locks, meaning that when you are relying on that type of method you have to have a wider variety of tools and knowledge to make it work. But if you found that society shifted such the average door is 5x tougher to brute force open, but the locks holding them shut dont become any harder to bypass, you would see a huge rise in bypass attacks because that would serve the needs better.
I live in the bike theft capital of the world (London, UK) and it doesn't matter how good the lock is, they simply grind through the chain\ shackle with a diamond grinder. I love the skill in these videos, but the thieves don't pick anything.
Something people need to remember with this lock - it's a disk lock, when locked you won't be able to move it or rotate it at all, and it will be in an awkward tight space, so this lock, while not a particularly big challenge for LPL, will probably be impossible to get trough for your average thief.
@@wildman510 Electrician here. What happens depends on which hole you make contact with first. If you make contact with the live hole first, you'll get shocked, and hopefully you have a ground fault interrupter, which will stop that very quickly. If you make contact with the neutral first, maybe the GFI trips, maybe not. Assuming it doesn't, once you make contact with the live hole, you'll have a direct short circuit, and your circuit-breaker will trip. Depending how long that takes, and the amount of current that that flows through the key, it might get a bit warm.
@LockPickingLawyer this is the first video I've ever seen on your channel years ago. I've been hooked on your videos since keep up the good work. I find your channel very entertaining and educational. You have helped me make the best security decisions on my home as well as everydaylife, and that is truly all I can ask for. Thank you for your knowledge of what locks to go for as well as what to avoid.
+Hematiitti Honestly, I'm surprised the key lasted that long. My keys felt like they were going to break. Also, FWIW, I don't think this is a bad lock (despite its cast zinc construction)... just not "pick proof." 👍
LockPickingLawyer obviously not pic proof, but i dont think that thieves would even bother picking it. its also really heavy lock, what i think you should have mentioned. Similar disk brake locks just feel "poor quality" compared to that one
LockPickingLawyer and secondary key is still in a package with the lube it came from! looks like the quality has get worse... My main key doesnt seem to give up any time soon ;)
I feel sorry for the people who worked their butts off designing this incredible lock, watching this video. The days and weeks of work inventing the double mechanism and this guy's like "it was a bit harder than usual".
A couple of really easy mods the company could do to make it much more resistant to picks. 1. Angle the "nub" so the tension wrench can't get purchase on it. 2. Increase the spring tension on the left keyway so that it will spring back into place, like the right one does.
Or make the cylinders locked to each other so they'll only rotate simultaneously, this way the pick one then the other method won't work as he won't be able to rotate either cylinder on its own
They already are locked to each other, there's just slop due to tolerances. Probably much easier to fix by increasing left spring strength than increasing the precision of the manufacturing
I absolutely enjoy your show so much. You are clearly very talented, but in addition to that, your humble voice and character are equally enjoyable. Thank you so much for doing what you love and sharing your passion with the us. It is a beautiful thing.
Probably the best pick Ive seen so far on your channel. A common thief would not get into it without spending lots of time trying to figure it out. Also, its key is cool.
Alot of people talk about effectiveness and effort put in time. I think they forget it's a hobby. In the field things are usually bypassed. Thanks for showing us LPL!!
You should design your own lock that is unpickable, since by now you know about pretty much all tricks in the book to do so and make something we can trust.
Omg theirs a use for my blank Sparrows tensioner😳‼️‼️‼️ well shit let me go out and find this lock. Because i’ve still not found a use for it in the 3 years i’ve had it either🤷♂️😝👏👏😂. But seriously though 😂‼️ Think if they would have made them cores spring loaded that pick would have gone alot longer. I mean surely still defeatable but longer. Also would take that notch out and maybe but something else to make key correctness a thing. This was kind of a cool lock! Thanks for sharing. Wonder if LPL checks out comments on a video 6 years later 🤔 😝‼️
I’m so damn impressed with your picking abilities. I’ve been an amateur lock picker for @24 years and I learn something from you every time I watch your content. You have a God given talent you do realize that don’t you ? I’ve never seen anyone with your confidence and know how on the mechanism of building and or picking a lock. Thank you for all the great info and entertainment I get out of this channel. If I had any money to spare I would support your channel better but I just don’t have any right now. Someday I will though because you have become a master of your craft and I would be so happy if I could pick like you. Peace my friend✌🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸 Merry Christmas
...well, he like to put "tools" into tiny slots and holes...search the right spot...and got bondage marks...so what is going on here...100% that we don't talk about bingo...
This channel has taught me something, and that something is that locks are meant to deter all but the determined. Who will get through the lock one way or another.
2:05 so now we know that ,for lock companies to hide their product from lpl they had to advertise their locks as NOT PICK-PROOF nor a LOCK. finaly some relief for lock companies, huh?
Imagine doing this picking somewhere in the rain, near the ground, staying in the puddle, and getting mud on your hands, as it is wheel and tire, they are never completely clean. I would call this a very nice lock. Gonna make thieves struggle and win max time to someone's notice. However, you also would like to have some movement-sound on this one. So it goes siren if he/she even moves it a bit.
Lenoh Imagine them trying to roleplay. “Oh no, you trapped me here in these handcuffs. They’re simply inescapable! Whatever shall I do?!” “Umm, honey? I can’t find the key.” “Here, just give me a second.” *pop* “Ok, now I can help you look for the key!” “...” “What?”
It would be a safer lock if the rotation was spring loaded, so you would have to pick both at the same time (or at least hold the first one), cuz otherwise it would reset.
He is holding the first one because it IS spring loaded. that's why he has to have the tension wrench or whatever it was keeping the other part of the lock picked
@@leolego2 I just rewatched it. You are right he does stop holding it. My original statement stands though. It is spring loaded. However the spring is weaker on the left side.
What it needs for the simultaneous-rotation thing to be of any use whatsoever, is for it to be detected, not enforced. That is, instead of just preventing one from turning more than a certain amount ahead of the other, the lock should allow them to spin independently, but if either one gets ahead of the other, the mechanism should detect that and prevent the lock from opening until the entire thing is reset.
Can you do a video where you talk about what you mean when you say you "got a click, false set, binding," etc. All the terms you use when you describe what's going on. What are you hoping to feel? A click means that pin is set?
It's hard to explain in a quick comment. Clicks don't always mean a set pin. But youtube has a wealth of information on lockpicking tutorials, and ebay has some cheap pick sets if you don't want to make them yourself. It's honestly a fun little hobby to learn how to pick things like walmart master locks, I'd recommend giving it a try as that's the only real good way to really understand what is going on is to experience what's going on
a click just means the driver pin just got set somehow. that could mean its truly set, meaning that whole pin is good to go, or it could be in a false set, like if its a security pin. a false set/gate is part of what makes a security pin a security pin. for example a spool is a pin thats got a thin section in the middle, so that it can feel like its all set and good to go when in reality the pin isnt done at all. thats what being IN a false set is, when the pin is pretending to be set to try to mess with picking attempts. binding just means that the individual pin is under really high tension/friction, and its a sign that its probably close to being set as its the pin that the core is pressing on most directly
Click means that the pin probably set in the right position. False set is when there’s trick pins, ones shaped like squared off hourglasses, and he sets the trick pin in the middle of the shear line. You’ll hear him say counterrotation and that means it’s in a false set. Binding means that he pushes on the pin and it won’t move. That could be because he’s applying too much tension or he needs to set another pin first. I don’t pick locks though so I could be wrong on those.
Hey LPL! I've been watching for a while and finally went ahead and ordered a starter pick and tension set. Managed to pick a simple Abus No55/30 (3 pin) a few times with a bobby pin while I'm waiting for the kit to arrive and now I'm hooked! Keep up the videos I find them very entertaining and educational.
This must be an Excellent lock for it to take him a few revisions in the tools he used and a plan of attack for how to pick it during the video, plus the overall picking process takes about 4 or 5 minutes with the chance that it could take longer if one of the locks slide back into place. Might be the hardest lock he's reviewed.
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Any lock that takes him more than a minute to open is a good lock.
True Dat.
Ken Welch id say 30 seconds
That’s true
Was going to like but then it would be 670 and that’s not acceptable
i think for the sake of demonstration it took him way longer. i believe he can do it much faster
"oh come on...." uttered by the LPL. The lock company marketing department "YES! THAT'S A WIN!"
Better formating would be:
LPL: oh come on
Lock company marketing department: *_YES! THAT'S A WIN!_*
@@zessatsu *crap, overused and unimaginative format
@@enki-enlil who asked for your reply?
@@zessatsu now that's funny
Tell that to yourself buckaroo 🗿
@@enki-enlil just from that i can tell that you're nine years old
This lock passes the only test that actually matters: “Anyone determined enough to get into this lock would be determined enough to get in no matter what”
They'd just bust in the door
@@kakerake6018 exactly. So there comes a certain point where making a lock even stronger/more pick resistant doesn’t actually improve the security because after a certain point it’s at a level such that if someone gets past the lock, nothing would stop them anyway.
@@Vgamer311 That's when it's time to focus on to other methods of security: putting the bike behind a locked door, putting up cameras, etc
Edit: Jesus y’all I get it, cameras suck. Get a guard dog or something.
@@therealchristian1 cameras are mostly useless. you just see a guy get away with your bike
Only problem is it's built to be on a motorcycle... Most bikes can be manhandled into the bed of a pickup locks be damned.
Honestly, despite the fact that he did pick this, it's easily the longest I ever seen him need to pick a lock. Also, he said it took him a bit of trial and error to understand how to even go about doing the pick. So, this will almost definitely completely stump 99.999% of thieves.
Yes he would have got caught.
@@vernondecker9532 Most bike thieves throw the bike in a van or truck and worry about locks later.
Thieves don't pick locks
They go in with brute force
@@tuluppampam this is a lock for a motorcycle break disk. You're not breaking this lock
Thieves don't pick locks, they come in with their angle grinder or heavy duty bolt cutters and are done in 10 seconds. I once saved my brompton from being stolen by exiting the bar at the exact time 3 teenagers cut the lock. This was in broad daylight with a lot of people sitting 5 meters away on the terras of the bar. Nobody picks locks, except as a hobby
"Yes, hold on officer, I'm just inserting the second tension wrench, I'll be right with you."
Lmao
I n s e r t I n g
Might explain what appears to be handcuff marks on his wrist... ;D
Shit youd be lucky in my city if a cop caught a bike thief theyre barely around to catch all the insane drivers
Officer: "Don't worry I'll just wait here. I want to make sure I arrest you for robbery not attempted robbery."
the fact that lpl went such efforts, to the point of getting a new pick, means this lock is a real deal.
I think he needed a new pick anyways because he said is old 1 was too smooth.
Unless his old pick has been used for 10 years and is very worn out
@@mrbuushy3029 There was no mention of what, or which part of the pick was too smooth...that makes all the difference...
@@oceanic8424 I don't think he is gonna complain about a smooth pick if it does not affect him...
@@mrbuushy3029 Nah, that wasn't my point. Of course he knows the difference between a pick that's good enough, and one that's too smooth, but he doesn't tell the viewer exactly what he means by too smooth. That makes it difficult for the audience to relate to that. For example; there are many surfaces to a pick, so which part of the pick is "too smooth"?
he sounds like my dentist "nothing on one, two's a little loose, three looks like it has a cavity, tension wrench is slipping, fours okay and open"
I think about that every time he picks a lock
Why would a dentist use a wrench on your teeth?
@@lamasu8060 yours doesn't??
@@ATNova no mine uses a screw driver and knife like a normal dentist
@@lamasu8060 but the yoyo master didn't answer
This is the stuff that really impresses me about LPL, he draws a clear distinction between
"procedurally taxing" and difficult
Well, he is also a lawyer. He's got to be specific and articulate in his speech!
"So, what are your hobbies?"
"I search eBay for pickproof locks... and pick 'em."
Without any milk.
All while millions of people watch it...also I get paid to do it.
No me esperaba verte por aquí Xeno jajaja
@Joshua Beattie 2:01 He literally said eBay. Why do you have to come and correct people over things you don't even know anything about?
You jest but I spent a summer learning picking, and ended up with a variety of random ass locks without any keys. lol The mood will take you, and once you have your own little set, you're shall I say... Locked in. XD
You're the Bob Ross of lockpicking, bro.
Such an underrated comment.
Very true.
Or the JerryRigEverything of locks
Look up Jerryrigeverything, very similar voice
This is probably one of the best compliments you can receive.
So... RUclips randomly recommended a single video from this channel and now I've spent about 2 hours watching a stranger picking locks and reviewing safes.
same
Same with me, baut i am in Hour 6 now😂
Just subscibe bro
Same
Welcome to the rest of us.
This is picking in absolutely ideal conditions by probably the best lock picking guy on the planet, picking a lock that he examined in detail prior to making this video. Id say this is a very good lock. In "field" conditions with bad position, pressure, not knowing the key and all, this would be hard to impossible lock to pick...
Yup, I'd like to see this done on a motorcycle with the lock purposely positioned to make it difficult to pick.
Slide hammer has entered the chat.
Y'all complaining about how The Lockpicking Lawyer isn't acknowledging how this would be impossible in a real-life situation, but the whole point of these videos is to show how nothing is 100% unpickable.
Yes, this lock requires a whole lot of preparation and a little luck to be pickable in a real life situation, but it's not 100% pick proof.
If anything, this video has given me a reason to buy this lock since the Lawyer had to actually try in order to pick it.
Seriously? It's not 100% pick proof on well lit table. Try doing it on bike, properly locked facing inside of the wheel, it will be impossible without 30+ minutes even for him. It's really dumb claim, he almost fucked up 3/4 of the way in even in perfect conditions, had it been on bike not only it would take him 10x longer, but that mistake would mean starting over...
KuK137 The man picked a lock, and that’s it. He didn’t spin ANY sort of narrative about the lock’s effectiveness in real world applications.
You appear to be getting defensive over nothing.
@@KuK137 That's exactly his point: it isn't 100% pickproof, but it is in realistic circumstances essentially pickproof.
It gives a misleading first impression, perhaps something like "not quite pickproof"?
Ok this is pickproof for a professional who will never try his knowledge on stealing bikes so its pick proof for normal unprepared and illiterate thieves
"Procedurally taxing" to pick is actually quite a compliment. Locks aren't meant to be impossible to break, just to take long enough to deter trying.
Of course they're meant to be impossible to pick. You think they deliberately design them with picking options in mind or something?????????
@@borutb11 at some point adding more security to a lock is futile, if someone is determined enough they'll get in no matter what and making a lock impossible to pick just means it can't be opened by the user. At that point there are better options to getting. Which would make it useless.
@@borutb11 Yes, people lose keys all the time, so sometimes it is important to have a lock that can be picked. The key point here however, is that they should take a very long time to pick, long enough that anyone that might be inclined to try would be deterred. After all, there is no lock that can’t be picked with enough force and energy, not to mention the thing that the lock is attached to.
@@borutb11 That's a disk lock. If you are determined enough to steal the motorcicle... you can just change the freaking disk! But I bet a thief woudn't do that in the middle of the street.
I would buy this lock. The chances of it being picked in a real life situation is very slim.
@Closed Angle grinder in the middle of the street!? xD
@Closed what do you mean by even in the usa, like you are suggesting people are cool with shooting for small non bike related issues😂
@Closed "black kids"
@@letsdiscusstoday3068 yeah, black kids😂
Me too. For actual 5$ left in my safe
What a genius design. I can’t imagine a thief having the time, intellect, or patience to ever come close to picking this lock.
Nope, just pick up the whole motorcycle and carry it away
@@toddlower5546 The purpose of locking a hot component that's essential for safe travel is because if one is removing it in a parking area,, it's plausible that they're the owner so no one will question it. But if you're trying to haul the whole bike away, another biker will immediately question why.
@@no_rubbernecking
It's a joke, bud.
@@no_rubbernecking ehhh not really. A great majority of people are too afraid of conflict, so you can steal a motorcycle in broad daylight and the chance of interference from a person is slim.
Eh yeah really. I didn't say you'd interfere, but that you'd question it. See the difference?
I'd like to see a video on your top 5 actual pickproof locks.
I don't even think hes found 1 yet, how do you expect 5?
If he makes a list of the best locks i might buy them on principle
@@moviemaker2011z how about almost pickproof or hardest to pick locks?
@@moviemaker2011z he made a video of hes best locks, the first one he said its way out of his skill range
@@moviemaker2011z he prob found but doesnt post
I can’t even pick a normal lock and this man if picking locks I’ve never even knew existed
yes
I can't even pick my nose!🤭
i still consider you legendary 😁😁 at least you try to pick, while i always lose key and try to hammer
Lol really? I was picking locks at 14 with Bobby pins it's so easy on a regular pad lock
@@celestialTangle lol im simply saying it's a very simple process that even a kid can figure it out
To be fair, not many criminals will be carrying 2 tension wrenches.
Yeah i just pointed out that he is picking locks in the most favorable of conditions with all the time in the world to do so. When you're trying to use those same skills to ahem "borrow" the motorcycle of a stranger, you have to pick it in an unfavorable position most of the time all the while looking over your shoulder every few seconds. So yeah, pick proof for a novice, but even experts probably won't bother picking them.
@@Kazeshini11 lel, he is showing how to lock pick them, I think he could easily do this when he needs to steal a motorcycle. Even while showing it slowly most locks are done under a minute.. so he probably can make it look like he has trouble with his key.. most people use shitty locks anyway
@@jeroenvandenbulk The Idea with a lock like this is to put the keyway facing the spokes of the bike so you have to reach through them. Most people will look at that and find an easier target.
I do.
Thieves don't pick locks...any lock...ever. A thief will load the whole motorcycle, lock and all, on a truck and cut it off at their convenience. The two main tools of a thief are a crowbar and hammer.
When you are about to buy a lock, but not sure if its a good one, but then see LPL has a video about it that is over 4 minutes long, so you know its a good lock
‘Watches the video to make sure he doesn’t spend 3 minutes talking about laws’
@@benmiles8833 or mocking Master Lock in order to avoid uploading a 10 second video.
Or a 10 minuite video where there's a 9 minuite history talk at the beginning.
You better be not buying any lock that LPL has picked, because you could be in big trouble when the robber watches LPL's video about it.
@@goggypoggy dont know if theres irony in what you say, but if youre serious, lock picking is not that easy.
He makes it look easy, but only because he is so good 😅
"I'm just saying officer, these handcuffs could use a little more security, quite simple lock mechanism. Anyways I'm off to film a RUclips video."
Solrac Mustache Man funny because he actually did a video on the shotgun lock in cop cars
The funny thing is that the handcuffs and leg shackles that make people feel so safe when they see criminals in them don't even need to be picked to be opened. I had a "colorful" childhood and one thing we learned - that has never been fixed on newer handcuffs - is that if you can score one of the large paper clips (not hard to do) you can unbend it and push it into the ratcheting mechanism to depress it and back the cuff or shackle off fairly easily with no lock picking skill whatsoever. The actual cuffs can be quite hard to pick behind your back but we could always get them off blind with that trick. It takes very little practice to do successfully every time.
In the video it looks like he was recently handcuffed based on the marks on his wrists lol
@@LordPadriac What you're describing is called "shimming", and yes, it's much faster and easier than picking a lock. Basically, if a lock doesn't need a key to lock, it's shimmable. Some lock designs with springs just make shimming harder.
@@joeybonneau1360 Don't judge his sex life
Just add more keyholes until LPL stops being able to pick them all
Until then, new tools and methods are developed to pick the locks
@@agentproxy2355 and more hands ?
No one wants a 30 cm long lock
@@SimpleMusicProducer actually I think a 30 cm wide key would look pretty cute on my key chain
Just need 4 cores, where they all need a random amount of turning before the whole thing opens.
“This lock is pick proof”
LPL: “So I took that personally...”
"This lock is pick proof." Oh no, they really shouldn't have said that. They should have gone with "pick resistant," that might not have called forth the beast.
xDD
Strangely enough, whereas I usually find this meme to be 'meh' at best, it actually works perfectly here, almost like it was tailor made for this video.
It's pretty funny this time.
Good call by the OP.
@@JohnSmith-mk1rj Well, you are very right. I didn't even notice that I have seen this same meme many times before, because it blends so well to the subject of the video
Well played. Actual lol scrolling through the comments
I was curious and got myself this lock to try and replicate the picking. The most difficult part for me was finding a tensioner that didn't constantly slip. After that, setting the pins definitely didn't require a miracle. It's a shame they didn't include security pins. All in all, it was fun to pick. And now I have a good lock for my bike. Because no one is going to pick this spontaneously.
Congrats. However lpl found out the procedure to follow. How he did, I don’t know!
2:37 Looks like our boy picked his way out of some handcuffs recently...
Lmao
I couldn't help thinking the same the whole way through the video
Maybe a new video is coming "how to unlock a handcuff while running from the police"
His wife desperately wants to try handcuffs on him but they never get more than a minute into it.
I would like to mention, anytime you see indentations on that location be *very* concerned. Thats not a handcuff indentation, or if it is, its improper usage. You can actually *hurt* someone with that.
Look at video length: 7 minutes.
Wow it really is unpickable.
IKR
Usually open under 7sec
🤣
So if they fix mistakes: firmly connect 2 shafts with gear, remove teeth inside keyholes, made keyhole slots oval shape, so not tension device can be used, IDK how it could be picked. Almost perfect!
Company: our locks are unpickable
Lpl: reality is often disappointing
"Locks can be whatever I want"
@GeorgieTheMonkE It's like running away from a bear: You don't have to run faster than the bear, you only need to run faster than your friend.
In real life, would-be thieves will stay away from this lock and target an easier-to-pick lock.
@@PanduPoluan in real life they'd load the bike on a truck and be gone before anyone knew any better.
If you told me 5 years ago that I'd spend my time watching some dude pick locks, getting genuinely excited as the next one looks a fucker to open, I'd weep.
Funniest fucking comment I have ever read on RUclips genuinely!
Dude…I’m with you bro…. I’m addicted to his videos….Brigadier General Bryan Maxwell USMC ( JCOS HMX-1 ) Retired
One of the best RUclips rabbit holes I've ever gone down. 🙂🙃
@@B-Cobra where was this awesome community all my life long. :')
... at 1 in the morning. While starting the next video.
Imagine you arrest the lockpickinglawyer and you handcuff him to the back of the police car, you drive to the police station and you hear “nice click on one, two is binding, nothing on 3, aand we got this open” you turn around and he’s not there
Getting out of the back of a police car with no exposed locks on the inside of the doors would be close to impossible.
He can't unlock the cuffs as he is handcuffed and it will be a real life situation. He can unlock a handcuff on table tho.
@@Eza_yuta Handcuffs have one pin. The only challenge here is doing it with your hands behind your back.
@@Allurade handcuffs don’t have pins. They just need tension
@@jacobh674 What? no way
Judging by the wounds on LPL's wrist I would guess he was doing some handcuff training lately.
“Training”, yep ;)
I would bet he has a cat
@@WhatUpTKHere o h n o.
@Drapnek or he was trying to pick his cats lock
Or he has a frisky wife.! ; now get out of this one big boy. I'll be waiting in the master bedroom.
"Nothing particularly hard about it, picking this is really not an issue."
You only need professional tools, several years of specific training and a lot of talent. Easy.
If I tried really hard, maybe I could learn to wedge the tensioning bar against that little nub without it slipping off.
Not to mention, it'd be a lot more difficult locked on a bike in some awkward position.
Let me try..😀
@@marcgoodman4862 Even just that, though, looking at how much he varies the tension with his left thumb while aslo holding the lock with that hand, just getting the tesnioning right is an art in itself
well, "professional tools" to the same degree that you need professional tools to pick any lock. it was a couple random sparrow tension wrenches and a pretty standard pick.
The letters on that lock reads “Gemini”(雙子星）in case of anyone’s wondering.
Thanks Stalin
Thanks comrade
Thanks
Ahh thanks red terror 🤗
Gemini is constellation for twins right?
"Is not that hard to open" in a 7 min video. Buy this lock now and secure everything.
To be fair, the picking process starts at 4 min
@@CloudNey yea but it usually takes LPL 15 seconds to pick a lock
That One Asian Boi It’s also a motorcycle disc brake lock. So you wouldn’t be able to lock up too much with it.
I just wish I knew what this lock was called
He’s already picked it. He’s showing us how he did it lol.
Seeing how hard this was for him, I'd say it is certifiably un-pickable.
Indeed. He was picking under "ideal" conditions. Locked on a Motorbike, I'd say yes, unpickable.
No lock is unpickable. The whole idea of this channel is about this. It's just a matter of how much time does a lock get to be picked.
Motorcycle itself is picked by a boom truck. Lol
@@Dormant6996 Nah, he got an unpickable lock from Germany. Also theoretically, the StuffMadeHere lock if not for its easily fixable design flaws would be also unpickable.
@@StarfoxHUN if it's not a lock then it doesn't matter if it's pickable or not. The German "lock" was a sticker if you're talking about that. Also, LPL mentioned that "There is no lock that I can't pick, but there is some locks that I can't pick, yet."
Every man-made thing has flaws that can be improved over time. In the matter of locks, locksmiths and lock pickers also improve.
No different when we relate to computer world. The security guys and systems improve, so do the hackers and their tools.
got fired at work
Yt Recommendation :
LockPickingLawyer
me: Interesting
Yeah I quit my job too buddy wasn't worth the stress
Get well soon
did noone get the joke? xD
@@barackobama1187 we got wooshed
😂
Honestly, this seems like the trickiest and "best" lock of all your videos yet, that I've seen. I've been waiting on a dual key lock with a reset spring, because that seems intuitively very fool proof and difficult to pick with only two hands. If only the left lock had a stronger spring in it, so that it couldn't be left picked and ready to turn, this lock would be very tricky, indeed. The key holes individually may be easily picked, but the combination is very nifty, which is something I'd like to see in a pad lock, tbh.
imagine if the key was like a pincer and you had to insert a key from opposite sides, combined with a strong return spring, would make that the biggest pain in the ass to pick
Imagine if it had two multilock pin in pin cores.
"It is not very hard to pick" *proceeds to use multiple tools at the same time and picking hinges that can't be picked by smooth edges*
Yeah that lock would probably be pickproof for about 99% of criminals...
99% of criminals don't pick locks, they break them. In the case of a motorcycle, which this is a lock for, you just load the whole motorcycle into a trailer and drive off. Remove the lock at your leisure.
@@notahotshot how is this lock for a motorcycle? I don't get how it would be used
@@inayaarime You put it on your disk brakes.
@@nit-Inundate Oh that makes sense! Thanks!
This is probably the best advertising this lock could ask for lol
Yeah his trusty old pick didn’t even work
Company: * calls a lock pick-proof * LPL: *Laughs in tension wrench*
Connor *tension wrenches
man i love your profile picture
It may not be “pick proof”, but since LPL is the only person who would be able to pick it and I assume he is not a thief, then it’s as good as pickproof
There's just one thing you are overseeing: If you don't care about the lock or about the challenge, you can always apply force. Even if a lock was really pick-proof, that doesn't mean that it cannot easily be destroyed. Some locks are really hard to pick but if you can apply any amount of force, you can still break them open in less than 30 seconds, they are just unusable afterwards.
Even if LPL is a theif...he can't be everywhere, he can't need that many bikes. 😂
This is interesting. I think a way to make this lock even more annoying to pick would be to have the cores spring-loaded, so that it resets itself to neutral if no tension is on it. That way you can't leave e.g. the left core half-picked while working on the right core, you have to keep two tension wrenches in at all times. You could also try to remove the nub to make it even harder for a tension wrench to find purchase. Not impossible, of course, but it would probably make picking this lock much more annoying.
I thought the same. It would be definitely more annoying and maybe also take a longer time since one might slip off and has to restart everything from the beginning
Or have it so that the lock cores need to be counter rotated. Trying to tension two cores in opposite directions would really be a pain!!!
I’d say it’s save enough. Anyone who’s determined to steal your bike wouldn’t even try to open it in public.
Why bother with picking the lock, when it’s much easier and faster to steal the whole bike with the lock still on?
@@cmdrratzass7305 What if I just want their cool lock tho?
Cmdr Ratzass this lock is meant to go through the brake disc, so you can’t move the bike at all
In 1970, I entered the United States Army, and reported to Fort Lewis Washington for Basic Combat Training. Every soldier was first given their flying 20 advanced payment, then marched to the Post Exchange and told exactly how to spend it. One of the first items was 2 padlocks one for the wall locker and one for the foot locker. Of course each lock came with 2 keys, and being young 17 to 18 year old fellows, most promptly locked those keys in their wall locker. What to do? Well I had experience picking padlocks in High School, this before the combo locks were used, and had a tiny money clip/knife that I was allowed to keep because the blade was so tiny. I had learned I could easily pick those wall locker locks in about seven seconds using just that thin little blade. Man that blade paid for itself fifty times over during basic and AIT, everyone knew who to call when the keys were in the locker and a 2 bucks a pop, I had cigarette money for all my time in Basic. I lost that knife years ago, however not long ago, I purchase a lot of confiscated knives from the Bismarck Airport, sold through the State Surplus Store, fifteen bucks for a bag of 20 knives and there among the neat little things that were not allowed was one of those money clips, so I once again have my little lock pick, however there is rarely ever any call for such service any more.
Jerry Ericsson I like that story.
what a story
I've no doubt you and your buddies trusted each other, but weren't you afraid that if anything went missing they might blame you? Genuine question, I'm not suggesting anything nefarious on your part or theirs, but sometimes emotions run high in those situations. Great story by the way. 😀
Only an idiot would offer to pick locks and steal something lol. And rapport goes a long way. If everyone trusts you, then you'll never be a target.
didnt read
"Four isn't helping me out here" of course not you're literally picking it
After watching his videos for a while, I've seen quite a few locks go through the whole Stockholm syndrome lmao
They do say it doesn’t get better if you pick it
Taking into account that this is a disc brake lock, which you put through the perforations on your motorbike's front brake disc to deter opportunistic thieves, this looks like a pretty perfect lock to me. The lock here is certainly better than the one I have been using, always in conjunction with a heavy chain-and-lock through the rear wheel, if I park up for longer than just a few minutes.
Honestly, this is massively impressive. The fact that it took about 2 minutes for LPL to pick it after he'd had the time to study it means that this would probably deter at least 99% of thieves. This looks like an awesome lock type that should be explored more.
Those are rooky numbers you gotta up those numbers to 99.9
Now if it had an alarm in it like mine does. The second someone touches it to pick it would be blaring in their face.
@@landonfolken03 You must be new here... LPL has picked plenty of alarm locks...
@@christopherfassett9973 No, my point is that if THIS specific lock had an alarm combined with the amount of time it took him it would be a pretty solid disc brake lock. Plus the angle required even though it's attached to said disc.
Not that bike thieves care much about locks to begin with though.
“Oh come on four, *click* four...”
“A little bit of movement in core”
True poetry
"So i decided to accept the challenge"
* Boss music starts playing *
What a cool lock! This channel makes me want to collect rare locks rather than just picking them haha the last thing I need is another collection but I know myself well enough to know fighting it is futile 🤣
I think it would be cool if he did a small series of video's where he goes out on the street and makes bets with people about how fast he can pick thier lock in real life situations.
Eg. Walks up to a guy with a motorbike as he's locking it up and says "Nice bike, bet you £20 I can get your lock off in under a minute", biker laughs and says sure, then looks on in horror as he removes the lock in 15 seconds..
lol
Vinnie Ghost one of the first rules of lockpicking is you never pick a lock that you intend on actually using. So LPL would never do this.
Luke Sparrow in a previous video he picked a bike lock that he actively uses but he did not show the key
Buttewr that’s strange because he’s said many times to never do this
@@him050 idk man but he made a point that he is using the lock and a point about not showing the key on camera because he is using it
Buttewr I guess rules are made to be broken!
To gie this lock some credit:
Additionally to all others already refering that taking over a minute is already a "gold standard lock", this is a disk break lock.
So it being installed where it belongs would make access and handling much more complicated, you can't turn it, hold it in your hand etc.
I'd love seeing LPL doing this while installed on an actual bike!
How to steal a bike with a disc lock: Just put it in a van.
Thats usually how bikes get stolen
If the lock was mounted on the bike, he'd have two hands to get at it, which might work in his favor. I don't think there's much point in demanding the LPL do his lockpicking outside, in the dark, while lying on his back with a headlamp.
@@intension1744 In Australia bike thieves arrive with a box trailer and two mattresses. They bodily pick up the bike and lay it on the first mattress and then cover it with the second. The police have gotten wise to this and if you carry two mattresses on a trailer they'll pull you over and look for oil stains on them.
For real I can't see a person with his skills, laying on the street trying to unlock this lock. As one commenter said, he had to figure out how this works. still, he couldn't do it as fast as usual. Plus I'm looking for this lock on Amazon, I can't find it.
@@blueissocool let me know if u find it I'd like to put it on my bike
Nice to see your handcuff marks are healing nicely! Either you had to get out of a tricky situation or else something kinky went down
Ms. LPL had some great bed time
Mrs.LPL made him pick his way out of handcuffs? Kinky
This lock is a masterpiece of engineering and picklocking it is an act of mastery. Congratulations to both the lock manufacturer/designer and to LPL.
Looks like handcuffs damage to the left wrist. Playing Houdini ?
Houdini but the locks are real and he just picks them
just think about his love life
Just thinking that.
Wife got frisky
Wife thought the cuffs from Cupid's Corner could hold this man to the bedframe LMAO
Lpl: “so I found this “unpickable” lock online...
Lock company: *why do I hear boss music?*
Clearly needs a professional, the right tools and some time to pick. Pretty good solid lock to me and if had a bike id buy this
I have no need to pick locks, but I am in awe and for some reason want to learn more! I find this channel to be very entertaining. Thank you.
I hate that I found out about this channel, now I cant feel safe leaving my bike anywhere!
To be fair, almost nobody is going to be carrying at least a dozen different tools and be experts in lockpicking just to steal a bike.
@@syeungmin6204 yeah. I live in NL. Most of my bicycles got stolen within the year. They'll just cut the weakest link. I've seen my bikes get stolen because the rack I tied it to was too easy to cut. Or they bent over a street sign post, took the sign off (all that needs is a 13mm spanner) and proceded to lift the bike away, chain and all. There's a point where you basically decide that it's best to just get insurance and a lock that the insurer will approve of.
I haven't paid for a new bike in almost two decades. I however keep on having to buy new insurance on my replacement bike, which is almost as expensive.
it not. mot tool is easy to easy to conceal. and it usual take up to two minutes even on high strength steel locks the best way take a wheel and have two locks on bike and the other wheel. they a best cause it a deturance
@@syeungmin6204 they are. there is to conceal
@@fermitupoupon1754 Wow Fermitu... I had no idea that NL was such a den of thieves! :-o
*reaches for ramset gun*
Erebus love it XD
Bfg gun
Sword scar
> bfg gun
Big fricking gun...gun
atm machine
Pin number
For a lot of these videos, I find myself saying "Okay, but no thief would ever do that."
Locks don't have to be pick-proof, they just have to be better than the lock on the house next door. (Or motorcycle).
This isn't a thief training channel. It's a locksport channel. The point is not to gain access to things that don't belong to you. It's to defeat a challenge for the sake of it.
The simple presence of a lock is enough to prevent 99% of thieves from trying to gain access that way. They'll either move to the next target, or attack a weaker link like a hinge or a window.
@@Zibani yea, cause Most thievs don't know how do pick, cause if they did they would make videos on youtube showing how to pick Pickproof locks
It's the same theory Australians have about swimming in the ocean when there's a shark about. You're safe as long as you're faster than the slowest swimmer...
@@ray.shoesmith same theory Americans have about grizzly bears. You dont gave to be a fast runner just faster than the slowest runner.
Well, you also have to realize that locks work off of two principles, physical toughness, and difficulty in bypassing. Bypassing is things like picking and other non destructive (usually) manipulations of the lock mechanism.
These things have to exist in balance and at a prticular level in order for a lock to be good because while the threats to locks exist on a spectrum, that spectrum adapts to the characteristics of the locks commonly found in use.
The primary factor that shapes the threat spectrum is efficacy and speed. Is an attack fast, and does it work. Efficacy is judged by not only does an attack open a lock but does it allow for the intended purpose behind opening the lock to happen or does if detract from that.
For instance, using one of the biggest and heaviest strongest padlocks available to secure your bike will change the threat spectrum you can expect to be brought against that lock in most situations. If its secured in an area where using a grinder on it isnt really feasible, then you might find that a determined thief WILL employ some form of bypassing to open it. If a lock is hard to destroy, it also needs to be hard to pick because while less common picking is a method used.
It would make little sense to put a standard masterlock core in a squire stronghold lock body because if that lock becomes the average lock used fo secure high value assets, thieves will study it to figure out how to defeat it.
When they study it, they will find a soft 5 pin core with only 4 stacks used and realize that all they need to open it is a wave rake and a tensioner and they can open it while looking like they are usong the key.
The reason most theft of secured assets involves destructive attacks is because the percieved difficulty of picking or bypassing low quality locks and sort of the social stigma that somehow still exists on people who are interested in lock sport, and because even moderately decent lock cores are relatively cheap and common. This makes brute force more common because its a more generalized method, a crowbar and a hammer can open a myriad types of locked boxes because they can be used in myriad ways. A wave rake and a tensioner can only open a specific set of locks, meaning that when you are relying on that type of method you have to have a wider variety of tools and knowledge to make it work. But if you found that society shifted such the average door is 5x tougher to brute force open, but the locks holding them shut dont become any harder to bypass, you would see a huge rise in bypass attacks because that would serve the needs better.
Well, thats something that I would feel comfortable leaving in public.
Doubles as a in hand weapon when needed.
Lock or key?
@@defensivekobra3873 why not both?
@@defensivekobra3873 throw the lock, stab with the key
I live in the bike theft capital of the world (London, UK) and it doesn't matter how good the lock is, they simply grind through the chain\ shackle with a diamond grinder. I love the skill in these videos, but the thieves don't pick anything.
I don’t disagree. Picking is not a skill that most thieves develop.
CPU UK I though Portsmouth was worse 😁
They are jacking bikers at traffic lights. Never imagined the old port had issues o_0
CPU UK diamond doesn't cut steel well at all, what you mean is they use cordless 41/2" grinders and abrasive slitting discs.
Or just bolt extract the body like most other disc locks.
This lock isn’t “pick proof” however, I think it’s confusing enough to deter any picker from even trying, that’s the point of it...
Something people need to remember with this lock - it's a disk lock, when locked you won't be able to move it or rotate it at all, and it will be in an awkward tight space, so this lock, while not a particularly big challenge for LPL, will probably be impossible to get trough for your average thief.
I can imagine a little kid sticking the key into a Euro power socket.
Wonder what that would do? Probably like an ordinary cord
wildman510 its called a short circuit and its not very healthy
@@wildman510 Electrician here. What happens depends on which hole you make contact with first.
If you make contact with the live hole first, you'll get shocked, and hopefully you have a ground fault interrupter, which will stop that very quickly.
If you make contact with the neutral first, maybe the GFI trips, maybe not. Assuming it doesn't, once you make contact with the live hole, you'll have a direct short circuit, and your circuit-breaker will trip. Depending how long that takes, and the amount of current that that flows through the key, it might get a bit warm.
SoWhat1221 thank you for the summary don’t mind the dog eater guy
Wrong pitch; wrong size.
Plot of these vids:
“This lock hard to pick”
*continues to pick lock*
Raccy or
“This pick is pretty easy to pick”
*uses multiple tools at once with the most complicated steps ever*
Haiden Fawley neutral chaotic and chaotic evil
@@menacing_egg2732 still picked it without much struggling. He slipped and still managed to pick it
Company: What we have here is a pick proof lock.
LockPicking Lawyer: Hold my beer.
Hold my tension wrench*
@LockPickingLawyer this is the first video I've ever seen on your channel years ago. I've been hooked on your videos since keep up the good work. I find your channel very entertaining and educational. You have helped me make the best security decisions on my home as well as everydaylife, and that is truly all I can ask for. Thank you for your knowledge of what locks to go for as well as what to avoid.
I have had this lock for two years and it has saved me from three theft attempts!! Really good lock for the price i would say.
+Hematiitti Honestly, I'm surprised the key lasted that long. My keys felt like they were going to break. Also, FWIW, I don't think this is a bad lock (despite its cast zinc construction)... just not "pick proof." 👍
LockPickingLawyer obviously not pic proof, but i dont think that thieves would even bother picking it. its also really heavy lock, what i think you should have mentioned. Similar disk brake locks just feel "poor quality" compared to that one
LockPickingLawyer and secondary key is still in a package with the lube it came from! looks like the quality has get worse... My main key doesnt seem to give up any time soon ;)
I feel like it will be considerably harder to pick if it was actually connected to a bike
This would be much harder to pick when it's actually on a motorcycle
Experimental World69 Was thinking that too
Any lock would, but that’s not the point, he’s demonstrating the fact that it can be picked.
he would have a hand free from holding the lock. Might be in an awkward position, but a free hand can do a lot.
Not if you tip the motorcycle.
@@moisty254 that would work great but would make to much noise
You are truly gifted. On a serious note, do you ever get any hate mail from any lock manufacturers?
He did mention in another video comments that he got a lot of threat and demands to take down some videos from company!
@@Frenchie_10 which video was it
Link plz
Oh i'm sorry guys I dont remember. I think it was between 450 and 500
I feel sorry for the people who worked their butts off designing this incredible lock, watching this video. The days and weeks of work inventing the double mechanism and this guy's like "it was a bit harder than usual".
A couple of really easy mods the company could do to make it much more resistant to picks. 1. Angle the "nub" so the tension wrench can't get purchase on it. 2. Increase the spring tension on the left keyway so that it will spring back into place, like the right one does.
Or make the cylinders locked to each other so they'll only rotate simultaneously, this way the pick one then the other method won't work as he won't be able to rotate either cylinder on its own
They already are locked to each other, there's just slop due to tolerances. Probably much easier to fix by increasing left spring strength than increasing the precision of the manufacturing
I absolutely enjoy your show so much. You are clearly very talented, but in addition to that, your humble voice and character are equally enjoyable. Thank you so much for doing what you love and sharing your passion with the us. It is a beautiful thing.
Probably the best pick Ive seen so far on your channel. A common thief would not get into it without spending lots of time trying to figure it out. Also, its key is cool.
watching a guy picklocking a lock at 4am. Nice, subbed.
Me too bro!
Dude 4:47
k3ntizZ I’m not the only one!
Finished at 4:48
Alot of people talk about effectiveness and effort put in time. I think they forget it's a hobby. In the field things are usually bypassed. Thanks for showing us LPL!!
Lock makers: our pick proof lock
Lockpickinglawyer: so you have chosen death
You Sound like my dentist When you pick the lock
Or chiropractor
Sound effects included.
Or crunching peanut m&ms
Or braking teeth or cracking skulls
yes
You should design your own lock that is unpickable, since by now you know about pretty much all tricks in the book to do so and make something we can trust.
Omg theirs a use for my blank Sparrows tensioner😳‼️‼️‼️ well shit let me go out and find this lock. Because i’ve still not found a use for it in the 3 years i’ve had it either🤷♂️😝👏👏😂. But seriously though 😂‼️
Think if they would have made them cores spring loaded that pick would have gone alot longer. I mean surely still defeatable but longer. Also would take that notch out and maybe but something else to make key correctness a thing. This was kind of a cool lock! Thanks for sharing.
Wonder if LPL checks out comments on a video 6 years later 🤔 😝‼️
I’m so damn impressed with your picking abilities. I’ve been an amateur lock picker for @24 years and I learn something from you every time I watch your content. You have a God given talent you do realize that don’t you ?
I’ve never seen anyone with your confidence and know how on the mechanism of building and or picking a lock.
Thank you for all the great info and entertainment I get out of this channel.
If I had any money to spare I would support your channel better but I just don’t have any right now. Someday I will though because you have become a master of your craft and I would be so happy if I could pick like you.
Peace my friend✌🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
Merry Christmas
2:41 His wrist looks like it's had a pretty tight handcuff on it.
Maybe he locked himself as a challenge.
Maybe he just had a romantic evening with Mrs LPL... 😉
its ok he loosened it when they weren't looking
I thought the same thing! Would be interesting to hear his explanation for the marks!
...well, he like to put "tools" into tiny slots and holes...search the right spot...and got bondage marks...so what is going on here...100% that we don't talk about bingo...
Lock Company: we made an unpickable lock.
LPL: It's showtime
This channel has taught me something, and that something is that locks are meant to deter all but the determined. Who will get through the lock one way or another.
2:05 so now we know that ,for lock companies to hide their product from lpl they had to advertise their locks as NOT PICK-PROOF nor a LOCK.
finaly some relief for lock companies, huh?
Someday soon see a dyslexic billionaire who dodged the LPL selling under the brand “tick-proof clock”
Well if that's not just the coolest lock I've seen in a while...
Well done, and thanks for the great explanation!
don’t how I end up here, but i’m actually enjoying this channel so much
Imagine doing this picking somewhere in the rain, near the ground, staying in the puddle, and getting mud on your hands, as it is wheel and tire, they are never completely clean.
I would call this a very nice lock. Gonna make thieves struggle and win max time to someone's notice. However, you also would like to have some movement-sound on this one. So it goes siren if he/she even moves it a bit.
Were you testing how to break out of handcuffs. Those bruises 1:58
I think he was just being kinky with the wife. You should see the chastity belt he picked for Valentine's day.
@@VocalMabiMaple What!!!??? Hope the video is still up
Thank god I'm not the only one that noticed this.
Mrs. LPL lost the key; he had to pick himself out
Lenoh Imagine them trying to roleplay.
“Oh no, you trapped me here in these handcuffs. They’re simply inescapable! Whatever shall I do?!”
“Umm, honey? I can’t find the key.”
“Here, just give me a second.”
*pop*
“Ok, now I can help you look for the key!”
“...”
“What?”
It would be a safer lock if the rotation was spring loaded, so you would have to pick both at the same time (or at least hold the first one), cuz otherwise it would reset.
The rotation is spring loaded.
He is holding the first one because it IS spring loaded. that's why he has to have the tension wrench or whatever it was keeping the other part of the lock picked
@@leolego2 I just rewatched it. You are right he does stop holding it. My original statement stands though. It is spring loaded. However the spring is weaker on the left side.
What it needs for the simultaneous-rotation thing to be of any use whatsoever, is for it to be detected, not enforced. That is, instead of just preventing one from turning more than a certain amount ahead of the other, the lock should allow them to spin independently, but if either one gets ahead of the other, the mechanism should detect that and prevent the lock from opening until the entire thing is reset.
ebay item: - Has a title -
LockPickingLawyer: *Challenge accepted*
The fact it last that long is proof enough how good of a lock it is.
Can you do a video where you talk about what you mean when you say you "got a click, false set, binding," etc. All the terms you use when you describe what's going on. What are you hoping to feel? A click means that pin is set?
It's hard to explain in a quick comment. Clicks don't always mean a set pin. But youtube has a wealth of information on lockpicking tutorials, and ebay has some cheap pick sets if you don't want to make them yourself. It's honestly a fun little hobby to learn how to pick things like walmart master locks, I'd recommend giving it a try as that's the only real good way to really understand what is going on is to experience what's going on
a click just means the driver pin just got set somehow. that could mean its truly set, meaning that whole pin is good to go, or it could be in a false set, like if its a security pin. a false set/gate is part of what makes a security pin a security pin. for example a spool is a pin thats got a thin section in the middle, so that it can feel like its all set and good to go when in reality the pin isnt done at all. thats what being IN a false set is, when the pin is pretending to be set to try to mess with picking attempts. binding just means that the individual pin is under really high tension/friction, and its a sign that its probably close to being set as its the pin that the core is pressing on most directly
Click means that the pin probably set in the right position.
False set is when there’s trick pins, ones shaped like squared off hourglasses, and he sets the trick pin in the middle of the shear line. You’ll hear him say counterrotation and that means it’s in a false set.
Binding means that he pushes on the pin and it won’t move. That could be because he’s applying too much tension or he needs to set another pin first.
I don’t pick locks though so I could be wrong on those.
When LPL has to dig that deep in his tool bag, you know it's a lock you can trust.
Lol lockpicking skill 200+
seriously, guy used console commands on this one
@@christopherhall5361 He probably also has the Skeleton Key.
@@christopherhall5361 lock.pickable = true;
pick(lock);
*LOCKPICKING* *100*
Thankyou so much i was trying to steal a motor bike but found that lock and i was looking up how to pick it and saw your vid YOURE A LIFESAVER!
This man has ended whole companies...
well he actually make them free publicity and offer them à new customer wave since we all know that a video of more than 3min means quality lock
No, Master is still around.
*me sleeping like a baby in the middle of the night*
"Click out of one... click out of two..."
*profuse sweating*
OMG i'm passing out laughing! LOL
Hey LPL! I've been watching for a while and finally went ahead and ordered a starter pick and tension set. Managed to pick a simple Abus No55/30 (3 pin) a few times with a bobby pin while I'm waiting for the kit to arrive and now I'm hooked! Keep up the videos I find them very entertaining and educational.
+C Jones Good luck with your new hobby... be warned: it's addictive! 👍
This must be an Excellent lock for it to take him a few revisions in the tools he used and a plan of attack for how to pick it during the video, plus the overall picking process takes about 4 or 5 minutes with the chance that it could take longer if one of the locks slide back into place. Might be the hardest lock he's reviewed.