Developing Literacy, Developing Language, with Stephen Krashen (MAT-TESOL Master Class I)
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2020
- Dr. Stephen Krashen, Emeritus Professor of Education at USC, discusses the role of reading and literacy development in the language acquisition process. His talk is followed by an audience Q&A via chat. Moderated by Dr. Jenifer Crawford and Dr. Emmy Min, faculty members at the USC Rossier School of Education.
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I can’t agree with Krashen more. His hypothesis perfectly explains my English acquisition process. Born and raised in a remote town in China in the pre-internet era, I didn’t learn much English from classroom, I learned, should be acquired , English from listening to radio broadcasting, such as bbc and voa. I got addicted to listening to these radio channels as they are like spiritual food for me, their voice is just like nutrients nourishing my heart and soul. Freedom, democracy, human rights , human dignity... all these ideals and values I learned from listening to radio.
This is truly compelling , not reading, listening. Compelling listening provides me oceans of comprehensible input.
And now, I am an IELTS tutor and I call my teaching method as Immersion IELTS.
Krashen is simply the coolest linguist
Besides chomsky
Yea psycho-linguist
As a language teacher and learner, I find that the biggest obstacle in promoting language acquisition through exposing learners to compelling input is that you constantly have to compete against the almighty entertainment industries for your students' attention. So much extremely compelling and addictive content is readily available in almost anyone's native language, and the gratification a learner can get (especially if it's an adult second language learner) from content in their own language usually completely eclipses the gratification they can get from content in the target langauge. I suspect that especially for beginners, finiding compelling comprehensible input may often be next to impossible. Suggestions anyone?
When I found content I liked and it was in a foreign language, it helped if it was avalible only in that language. It gave it a sense of exclusivity, usually it was something specific about that country or a funny youtuber, that lives there. You have to have something nobody else has, be it something funny or beautiful or otherwise engaging could help. But we mustn't forget that if the learner doesn't get engaged at all with the comprehensible input of a foreign language it could well be so that he is just not motivated enough to learn it and therefore it's not your fault at all. I sometimes watch and read thing I wouldn't in my native language but I really want to learn many languages and they immediatly make it interesting and engaging :)
@@naturalmedicinewriting5208 Thank you very much for this reply. My college professor would argue that lack of motivation in my students always attests to a problem with my teaching. I suspect, however, that you are right and there is little I can do in many cases. Finding exclusive and compelling input for a particular student may not always be possible. Sometimes I feel that becoming interested in anything is itself a skill that I wish I could teach or somehow endow my students with.
@@willhelpforfree That is so true. I think the book about flow by the american hungarian psychologist Csikszentmihalyi has a lots to say about getting into that flow state even if we feel bored at the beggining or not engaged. :) With all respects to your college professor, it seems to me that he or she doesn't respect, that we always need both sides to participate. I was teaching czech to many people and there were some, who were really eager to learn and others that simply weren't interested at all. In those that were interested it was simply about finding the way they liked the most, but they were always grateful for my teaching since they got into contact with the language they liked, no matter the method. although I completely agree the right method, such as the comprehensible input approach is crucial, it still depends on the student too. Maybe the students have some negative memories and lost trust in themselves and therefore created some blocks. This can go away after they created enough positive experiences :D much like cognitive behavioral therapy :D
Wish you all the best on your teaching journey, you are doing your best to be a great teacher, which is already enough.
It's not the fault of your method if they are not engaged enough and if they learn how to get motivated while at the same time acquiring the language, it will be even a greater gift to them. :)
best wishes
@@naturalmedicinewriting5208 Once again, thank you! Best of luck to you as well!
Discipline. That's how I learned 5 languages and continue to do so. RUclips is an excellent source of authentic foreign language input. What's even better is that it includes images of mouth and throat positions and movements which makes mimicking expressions and gestures (acquisition of correct pronunciation) possible.
First told in 1980s and until now (2021), this man is in his 80's. Full life to pass a truth.
His speech is really powerful .
When you start listen, there is some enthusiasm and involvement that make us get time and really enjoy the subject about.
I love this guy, this is one of his best that I've found on RUclips!
He is the best. My conclusion work in the college was about him and second language acquisition. I am a big fun of him.
Yea he is best
I love this professor, you never get Board listening to him.
*bored
I would hope not
@@WeirdAlSuperFan Krashen doesn't support error correction ;-)
@@core_english Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 but spelling did 🤣
Wow, this whole talk is pure gold. Loved it! For years I have wanted to reform education, got burned out, and finally thinking about entering education again after 4 years away. But man I really love linguistics so I would love to go into the field. Just, money. So for now I just read and listen to talks like this.
It is amazing that he shares his brilliant lg acquisition ideas on You tube. And these have become extra compelling input to my English development.
One of my favorite people on this planet!!!
Thank you for the lecture; learning by stories, reading for pleasure broadens our ability to think and solve problems.
Thank you for publishing this
Thanks for hosting this great thinker and analyst. Valuable ideas and theories.
the amount of knowledge this gentleman posses is fascinating. This was one of the few videos that i truly benefited from and enjoyed. I could listen to him all day.
Amazing professor! :-)
I watch a Mandarin RUclips where the lady puts subtitles and walks around. She talks to people but she narrates to the camera about what she does. It's engrossing to me. She comments about many things and I find pattern in her speech that help me. She goes to a market in a city. She takes a walk with her little niece. She speaks with a fisherman and his wife for 45 minutes. All the topics are really interesting. I think what helps is seeing very intersting things. She's like Mr. Rogers. There are 8 fish in the ponds. She says in Mandarin 'Blue fish, yellow fish, red fish, green fish'. To me I find no better way to learn than to see and hear. She didnt' plan it out that way, though. She happened to come across the fish pond walking to a place. She describes a motor bike, trees, apartment. It's relaxing and enjoyable.
But you dont give the name of that video in chinese... Ifyou want to share .. do not hesitate , do it here.. merci l'ami.. je serai content de decouvrir cette video chinoise
please share video
@@teachmetelugu7320 "Mandarin Corner" is the channel. There are many videos of walking on streets and talking to people or narrating. Wonderful! 😊
Your story about 70% through the video about Faraday was EXTREMELY compelling to me, as someone who has degrees in both physics and chemistry. I never was one for fiction books, but that’s a compelling enough endorsement for me!
Yes! Compelling input over motivation. 31:57
This will be the best and most important video I have ever watched on the Internet.
Only a bit more than 10 minutes in, but you have given me the proper terms for what I've hitherto found difficult to put into words: "acquisition" and "skill building".
I am trying to learn the language of a country I have never visited and still have very little exposure to. I find the approach very frustrating, but it is exactly what you describe under "skill building": an explanation of the grammar then exercises/pair work before we have heard a good number of these sentences from a native speaker (repeatedly). In the past, I found listening to short, close to real life episodes ("at the dentist's", "at the hairdresser's", etc) from Danish language tapes very helpful. As they had a relaxation part at the beginning of each section, I loved listening to those beyond language learning and ended up wondering how some of the grammar and vocabulary had ever made it into my head as I was totally unoblivious to that. Needless to say that I greatly prefer this approach! Thank you for telling me how and way and giving me the terms for it!
Subscribed!! Professor, you've changed my mind about learning and listening a second or 3rd language :)
This video is gold!
Thank You!
Great video.
This is a request. Please upload any documentary or video of the psycholinguist/ literacy expert Frank Smith. I have read some books by him and never saw a video.
Thanks.
Ameer
Prof Krashen is a hero of mine. The coolest linguist, such a compelling communicator, so wise. Thank you for sharing your insight!
Wow from Ladygynka, unexpected, interesting. Thank you so much for sharing.
Are the handouts avaliable for download?
I suppose the challanges of language teachers of second languages is to find adequate content for the skills of their learners and also serving as fun stepping stones so that students don't feel too lonely in their slow quest of language acquisition.
I just got something HUGE- Hellen Keller the blind, deaf, mute- proves his point. it was when she finally CONNECTED meaning to "water" to teh feel of it (as that was the only sense she had to use) she began then her journey to language, and communication. Motivation counts for ADULTS.
My advice as someone who can read and write Japanese and speak it with out to much difficulty.
1st have a good teacher who can help you start out, this up to you but my Japanese teachers who I started of with really helped me a lot even thought I started slow.
As you do that watch a lot of shounen Anime in Japanese and use English subtitles. This is to keep it interesting and comprehensible.
After a 6 months to a year, start to read the manga of the anime you watch, what you can do is get the teacher to read it out for you and act out some of the scenes.
Doing that you should be able to read your self with in a few months.
Soon you will move into more complex books and with out knowing using the language to a high level with out thinking to deeply.
@Joseph Brown I recommend you to check out "Matt vs Japan" and "Immerse with Yoga" they give a lot of great advices on learning languages and specifically on learning japanese.
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Amazing
I'm trying to agree with him on the not-so-importance-of-grammar in communication. But I have issues with it. I started learning the English language at the age of 28, that is 23 years ago, in the US.
I've seen many of my country men who have been a life time in the US with a half-ass English skills. All the so-called-fluency they flaunt does not exact respect from their native listeners. So that means they didn't aquire enough grammar while they did acquire vocabulary.
And now that the last three years I've been learning German, this issue of acquiring vs learning is a very important one for me.
awesome guy , no question
it would be so interesting and also useful to see Mr. Krashen and Linguamus (Mustafa) together. He is one of the greatest polyglot- linguists we have ever seen. Many, many years ago, we heard almost the same thoughts that Mr Krashen had. They are so similar in terms of approach to language acquisition He definitely knows a lot more words than the average native Russian speaker and speaks better. İt is not just my personal opinion. This is the official assessment of some Russian linguistics professors about his knowledge of the Russian language. He was teaching languages in MGLU (Moscow Ling Unv)). He can learn and speak any language even with NO real practice in a relatively short time. He even knows dead languages. The name of his channel is Linguamus.
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Dr. Krashen looks like a very happy man, perhaps mainly derived from an excellent supportive family.
Hello,, can i have your opinion about functiona: theory and language acquisition? What are the topics under functiona : theory and language acquisition? Can you give me some examples of topics about it.
Could anyone here, please tell me the name of that book Stephen flashed up. Or any of the other books in Spanish he referred to.
who is the Japanese guy that he mentions that takes the Toeic every year and gets 100 on it? can't find him
the best comprehensive inpût, for beginners is in these three words: MANGAS; COMICS, BANDE DESSINEE; ___ it worked for me, i learned english all alone by reading X-Men and Spiderman in COMICS , i learned Japanese because i wanted to read MANGAS in a time when there was not a single translation, and today; i learn RUSSIAN language with MANGAS translated in Russian since two years..........and it works.....
Krashen is such a cool HONEST DUDE.
Hello, please can tell me the mames oof the books on mandarín wrote on pin yan ?
What a great idea to tell your children that you are going to buy every comic or book they want. I'll do that.
And it works. I learned english and japanese with comics and mangas.. and now i l learn russian with mangas printed in russian .
Aero plane makes people fly who are not motivated to fly,android introduces its user to virtual world,sewing machine is user friendly,car is driven by any driver so any new language can be learnt with the best technique that needs to be invented.
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LOL, I've always thought about like minded people being genetically related too. Roughly 6/8ths of my genetic heritage comes from Bethlehemites, known for their propagating moralistic tendencies through religions and traditions, I've always wondered if my moralistic and intellectual tendencies are in part shaped by that.
Also nice to notice, professor Krashen, Chomsky and Jared Diamond are Ashkenazim Jews, which might partially explain their outstanding brilliance.
I stop translating words to Khmer before reading for my students. I ask them to read, guess, and do the tasks. Translation can be done later if it is necessary.
who is the girl that started the video? is she a linguist?
I grew up during a revolutionary period in Australian education. I was not taught grammar at my school. My school is located in Queensland. It was ridiculous because I suffered in academia later. It took years to perfect my writing. 7 degrees later if you throw around words like pronouns and subjunctive etc. I still have no idea what that means.
Australia had a period of revolution? 😳
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33:00 tells it all
1:55:15 ejemplo article the shortes ganando nobel
Krashen is a cunning LINGUIST!!!!! 😳 😱 😆 booooooooom
1:08:00 Fiction or real world stories that resemble fiction? Is there a difference?
"Oh God this is Trump calling me again tell him I'm not here" Lol
😭😭😭😭😭I fell out the chair
7:36
RIP Aaron Swartz
Yes, you can talk to aliens if you eat enough mushrooms.
I think I'm related to you Mr. krashen.
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it depends on who you read
There are some writers you'd be shocked to read.
He should hv bn born earlier, then TEFL n TESOL would hv saved a lot of budget n produce much more success.
Lol “omg it’s trump calling me again” hahaha, his content is very interesting
But the reading materials have to be sorted out in such a way that they are well graded. And most important of all they r written by academically acknowledged writers.
the subjunctive study he mentioned sounded like a flawed methodology, if you throw out people who notice you are focusing on the subjunctive, that is likely throwing out anyone that studied the subjunctive and actually learned it at a much higher rate than you would be throwing out people who learned the subjunctive from pure reading making the sample biased to show the results he would have liked to see.
High school during 1923?!
Hilarious! “Oh God that’s Trump calling me again tell him I’m not here!”
That’s when I knew I could continue to listen…
Criticism with out providing a solution is immoral. He is incorrect. It is important to have well rounded people for many reasons; 1. It helps people get a long because they can understand different points of view and culture 2. Information crosses over to other disciplines 3. It helps people learn critical thinking and then they can think for themselves, 4. It makes people more creative, 5. It makes people more compassionate, 6. It moves progress along thru correction eliminating ignorance from happening and preventing ternary and a return to the ignorant violent dark ages, preventing hegemony. Specializing only applies to making money for most people, it advances disciplines and discovery, prevents homogeny.These are just a few reasons, there are many more reasons for finishing school. Most people ought to start specializing after Grade 12, some people will not and become General Contractors (blue coller) or Liberal Arts Degree (profession) It is important for a few people to be over seers and mediators, then things don’t get skewed into stupidity, it also saves costs, and lives. Being a generalist requires a higher IQ and is not the road that average people ought to take, those people should specialize, because of time and focus. This is the path for a majority of people. Steve Jobs is an example of specialization, Elon Musk is an example of broad based learning. Both have been called Genius. So, I am an example of correcting to much thinking in the box that males tend to get stuck in as I also am a broad based learner and under stand the reason for his Jewish perspective.😊
When the aliens land? Lost me there.
Honestly I like this guys take on learning . However I think a mistake he makes, as do most educators, is to introduce politics into the discussion. I have taught for years and never bring politics or religion into the classroom.
He merely used that man as an example of what happens when you don't read. He did not say anything political, just a fact. It's a known fact that the current USA President doesn't read much. Mr. Trump has a limited vocabulary, period.
@@sumisell you completely missed the point. It's not about whether he's factual or not, it's about bringing up a room-dividing (maybe even rapport-breaking) subject. I'm not at all a fan of Trump, but this is the third lecture I watched back-to-back where Mr Krashen brought him up. And it seems more "ranty" and forced than it having anything to do with the content. The second time I saw him do it was so forced that I cringed.
@@sumisell also, Mr Trump has a very biiig vocabulary. Ever heard of Covfefe?
I respect that Krashen knows his subject about teaching and learning languages. When he went off on Trump and praised Obama, I was taken aback. Today we have a press that is incapable of criticizing politicians they support and viciously attacking the ones they do not support. Trump brought us closer to Isreal than any other president. Obama if not outright anti sematic was undoubtedly surrounded by such politicians. Obama, like Biden, made race relations worse. Now in the third Obama term, overseen by "Obama lite" Biden, the USA is rapidly exiting the world stage and heading for a nuclear WWIII.
The best of the thoroughly mediocre.
Language "acquisition" is the acquisition of rejection of language itself.
Language"acquisition" is such a ridiculous, lazy method of bungling.
Man, Trump is living rent-free in Dr. Krashen's head. Kind of sad, actually...
Krashen is great on language acquisition. But the idea that 10 novels by John Grisham is worth a year of law school is totally absurd, an intellectually, academically irresponsible and also a plainly foolish thing to say. I hope he's kidding. Equally so regarding the old cliche he repeats about fiction readers being "more empathetic." Despite any of the research on this, one need only look around to decide this point is hardly convincing: any novel reader is fully capable of being as selfish or as hypocritical as anyone (something more than once written about, ironically enough, in novels), but besides that it's not actually clear from the research whether readers are made more empathetic through reading or if *more empathetic people tend to be readers* -- a disqualifying flaw.
Krashen is the world's most cunning linguist.
And... What can Stephen say about literacy of Joe Biden? Nowadays Joe can hardly get two sentences together..