Snapper Snowblower Won't Start - Flooding Carburetor and Bad Gas - FIXED Briggs and Stratton Engine
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2019
- I picked up this 4 year old Snapper snow blower for a quarter of the new price. It will not start. Untreated gas was left in this machine and it went bad creating a white powder in the gas tank and carburetor.
Briggs and Stratton Carburetor# 594015
Snowblower Model# 1696173-02
Engine Model# 15C114-0153-F8
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Hi. How did you get the “choke/run” dial off the top? That’s where I’m stuck.
This knob was off the machine when I purchased it. To put it back on, just push. There is no screw holding it on. To remove, I am guessing that if you insert a properly sized phillips screwdriver it will release. Here is a clip of the installation ruclips.net/video/GbHubI44rOA/видео.html
@@jcondon1 Thank you! Yep, you have to pry it off with 2 screwdrivers...carefully. I found a video. Thanks again!
i would like to know also i have the same snowblower . ive had to clean the carb twice over 4 years and every time i had to work around not removing that red nob because i felt like it would break if i forced it. i wish he would of showed us how.
@@SAMUEL7.3he literally shared a link in his original reply
Spent a solid 6 hours today trying to figure out why my snowblower wouldn't start took apart the carburetor change the spark plug and then I basically took the whole thing apart just running down the rabbit hole looking for issues, then I finally stumbled across your video and pulled out the little emulsion valve or the main jet or whatever you unscrewed, cleaned the clog, put it back together and now she runs like a beauty thank you for your help!
Glad I could help!
I have the same engine on a Murray Snow Blower. Thanks for posting this! Gave me a good overview of what to expect when i took it apart to clean the carb. Briggs is runnin like a champ now.
Thanks for this awesome video. We pulled the carburetor bowl off and a little pin and cylinder fell out. We had no idea how to put it back together until I found this video. Awesome stuff! Thanks!
Great video confirms the importance of running out the gas from the snowblower when storing it away. Also adding gas stabilizer to the gasoline.
I have a snapper snow blower M1024 flooding problem, Brigs & Stratton motor, bought in late 2021. Late 2022 at first snow I went to start it up and found the tank completely dry (I forgot to use the fuel cut off switch). After fueling and starting it stopped running a minute later. I let it sit and tried again later. same thing over and over.
Long story short, I disassembled the carbonator. The spring between the float and the pin valve seemed weak , so taking it between my fingers on each end I gently stretched it until it was an eighth of an inch longer and put everything back together.
It works perfect now!
I got the 32 inch cut pro version of this generation. $500 used, runs nice. Cant wait to move some snow with it.
I just got a Briggs 1227 blower with that engine. Carb was clogged, white stuff in fuel tank. I've gotten it almost good except it surges still. Thanks for showing me the tiny holes inside the carb body, I hadn't noticed them and was grumpy this doesn't have a removable idle jet. Soaking it now in my parts cleaner but will run some wire through those holes.
Great video. I have the same engine and carburetor and will take apart and clean confidently based on your information. Kudos.
@15:30 watched the vid to see the carb being cleaned and found this little surprise. I was just thinking of where to put a shut off valve on my B&S. I have the same cover so I guess that's the next thing I'm gonna add. thanks!
You can use toothpaste, or valve grinding compound, a Q-Tip, and a drill to polish the seat. Doesn't always work, but has been successful for me and others as well.
nice snowblower. that one you should of kelp. great job.
Great video, very informative and well done! Couple of thoughts. First the gunk in the carb mouth was more than likely left over residue from some sort of engine stor spray. People sometimes go nuts with that stuff. As to your float hanging up I find myself wondering if the float bowl is deformed? If someone managed to bend one of the sides it may be hitting the plastic float and causing it to hang up. I would also check and make certain that the plastic float is the correct one for that carb. Plastic floats all look pretty much alike and someone may have installed a new float of the incorrect size. As far as cleaning jets I know a lot of folks use wire but I've always favored monofilament fishing line of the appropriate size. Wire works but it can mar the surface. If worst comes to worst I'd just buy a new carb...my guess is you should be able to find a replacement online for around $25. Given that you got what looks to me to be an almost new $1,000 snow blower for cheap a new carb is a small price to pay!
Very instructive video. Thanks.
I see you met the scourge of ethanol blend gasoline. That's what happens when the ethanol evaporates. Nasty stuff, and it's hard to get rid of, short of boiling a carburetor in water. Nice job on the repair.
You know some of these machines you get that are not running or not running properly might have come from the manufacturer that way. There seems to be a lot more defective parts that never seem to run right even when new. Great channel too.
Interesting procedure and trouble shooting.
Appreciate your investigation and honesty. Was thinking that there might be some particles left in the gas tank that are still shedding that are keeping the needle valve from closing or the rubber tip on the valve is hardened and not providing a good seal.
Nice job 👍.
You should try using a PEX tube cutter for the fuel lines - nice clean square trims.
My Dad had two craftsman snowblower about that size. He got rid of both of them. They wouldn't run unless you left the choke on. They were both new.
I had the same thing happen. I took a q-tip with some of that orange hand cleaner and refinished the seat. I also cleaned out the little pressure relief area, it is the pressed in piece when when you are looking down the throat of the carb. Seemed to work.
Good to know. I only used a q-tip. Think pressure was the problem.
Video was educational
These carbs are known for leaking . The oil get thinned out with gas and seacess the engine . Always use the fuel shut off on these engines .
Pretty nice snow blower.
Yes it was!.
I would really like to have this snapper snow thrower looks brand new to me. Would save me a lot of work if it had a starter and a 110v plug in.
Thanks for the video. I'm having similar problems. I just did a carb rebuild and it runs better but backfires on shutting down. Just today it backfired and now won't start. Probably threw a rod or something. Question- where did you get the carb from and what's the part number? Thanks!
Try compressed air in the bowl vent. It may be clogged. That will cause the lean run condition and leak.
Thanks very much for sharing your journey.
I basically have the same engine and carb that kept stalling out periodically so I took out the carb twice to clean, new spark plug, new gas and oil and still won't start. Before the stalling I had some issues starting this season for the first time(2019-2020) but it's been rock solid since I bought it 10 years ago brand new. Not sure what else to do now but now I've seen you replace the whole carb maybe that is my next step. I live in Eastern Canada and get significant amounts of snow each winter and March is unpredictable. I must find a solution in the next few days before mother nature comes a knockin.
Darryl Stevens try spraying a little starting fluid in the intake and see if it starts for a second. If it does then you have a fuel/carb problem. If not then it could be spark related. I am working on an engine now that has intermittent spark issues related to a bad low oil sensor. Most likely I will end up bypassing it to resolve the issue. Cannot remember if that engine had a low oil sensor, but it is also common to have a bad ignition coil.
@@jcondon1 I've taken the flywheel off and the checking the coil. The magnets are rusted and I may have sheared the key but at the very least I'll clean the contacts and closely inspect the key. Thanks again for you help!
Darryl Stevens a sheared key will definitely cause you a run issue. If you have spark and it does not start with starting fluid then most likely the key. If on time, the magnet should just be clearing the coil at top dead center.
@@jcondon1 Perfect!
I read somewhere I can use a biz card for the coil spacing.
Darryl Stevens yes a business card works well.
Did you change the height of the fuel line when you put the shut off valve on it? Does the carb have a replaceable needle seat in it?
Seat is worn out so it closes needle above overflow float doesn't go high enough to close needle
If you had washed out the gas tank with some ethanol gas it may have gotten rid of the white stuff. It is an excellent solvent.
Just curious saw what looked like a charging system. Does it have electric start and battery connections? Mine just plugs into the wall.
What was the white material? I would be interested to know.
Thanks,
Henry Loos
Was the choke knob broken when removed? It was not shown how it was removed and was missing at the end of the video. Wondering how to get them off.
What is the name brand on the replacement carburetor, Was it made in china and how much did it cost? Thanks for a highly informative and useful video, Great job!
Great video, Did you get the auger straightened out?
I bent it back in place
Thank God, I don’t need a snow blower. They sure don’t make stuff easy to repair, anymore, do they? I guess they were worried some idiot might touch the spark plug and get shocked and sue Snapper.
It looks like fire extingisher residue
i bet there is a rubber missing from the seat ,some have a o ring type seal in there.
Going to try this. My toro snowblower (same briggs stratton engine as yours) won't start. Replaced fuel with fresh fuel, replaced spark plug, replaced oil, sprayed carb cleaner all over the carb bowl, up the tube etc...no go. I think I'll need to take the carb off and do a deep clean. Curiously, which ultrasonic cleaner is what and whats the liquid/degreaser you used? Also, I noticed that for the spark plug test, you didn't plug one end into the spark plug already inside in the machine and instead used another one. Why? Thanks so much for this video;
I am using a cheap Harbor Freight ultra sonic cleaner with Harbor Freight Super Heavy Duty Degreaser. You can use the existing spark plug. But to test the coil you can use another.
Question what are the yellow and red wire next to the starter that you wire tied on the harness I have the same but seems like the red one is half gone but my machine still runs wondering what are those wires
Not 100%, but it might be the rectifier for the light. Converts the AC power from the stator behind the flywheel to DC for the light.
Is it possible that the float bowl was not sealing at the top? If so, would it cause your leak AND would it suck air in causing it to run lean?
Possible but it seamed to only happen when hot.
I have the exact same carb on my Poulan Pro blower, where did you get the carb from? I'm having a tough time finding one on-line. Thanks for any info
I used Briggs and Stratton part number 594015 and purchased on eBay.
Still available from the same seller www.ebay.com/p/510917268?iid=112661844386
On mine the “choke/run” dial is pried off with a putty knife, screwdriver, etc..
So what are the white particles? We've seen weird snow sometimes in recent years. Snow that doesn't melt normally. Suspicion is that it's mixed with some chemicals, and white particles would be the inconspicuous choice for that. Maybe that's what it was. Could be interesting to do a chem analysis on them.
I believe that is caused by the ethanol in the fuel.
?? On the fuel shutoff - I have been advised by the shop which serviced the carb on my 5500 Watt
Mitsubishi, to use Ethanol fuel stabilizer and leave the fuel on to keep the gaskets wet. No problems last 3-4 years of doing that. I haven’t heard you comment on stabilizers, would like your viewpoint.
I use them, but not convinced of there effectiveness. I always run my carb dry before storing and shut the fuel off. Also keep the tank full, but change out the gas twice a year if unused. I have heard the same about keeping it wet, but have seen some where the needle leaks and slowly fills the piston and engine with gas. Running it like that would cause a lot of engine damage. So think it is safer to leave the carb dry. Also all the carb issues I see are due to the valve being left on. Never seen an issue with a dry carb. But not impossible.
@@jcondon1 Just heard another good tip, changing unused fuel. I "assumed" that, once treated, it was good forever. I will adopt your method as of TODAY. Thanks for providing such an informative program.
Hi James, came across this video. Thanks for posting. What model is it. Does it have power turning chute?
It has the power chute. The model was 1696173-02
Does it have battery? Do you still have it?
@@jwmatt no battery. Do not have it anymore.
The white stuff looks like salt residue.
That looks like some teenager used the petrol tank to hide his/hers cocaine stash but didn't realise the bag wasn't fuelproof!
I have the same engine/snowblower. Any info on where to find the optional manual throttle for this machine? I’d like to add one to mine.
The engine number on the one I worked on was 15C114-0153-F8. The part number for my engine was Briggs 793109
Just a question. Why don't you use compressed air & carb cleaner?
I generally do use carb cleaner before putting them in the ultrasonic. But sparingly. It will destroy gaskets and o-rings pretty quickly. Also wash the ultrasonic degreaser off with water and blow through all the passages with compressed air.
Ive seen this before. It happened to my snow blower back in the day. Its salt from snow blowing salty snow. Btw if you read this comment i have a brand new red pull cord i can send you if you want. I dont need it. It is to a cheap generator i dont have anymore.
@@jcondon1 awsome. I'll e-mail you sometime tomarrow.
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How about it caught fire, and was supressed with extinguiusher containing powder such a purple K.
thank s, Henry Loos
Looks like I have the same blower with the same carb but its a simplicity, runs perfect only thing I hate is there's no throttle, did your model have a throttle and if not do you or any viewers out there no if a throttle could be added to this carb?
It did not have throttle control. I believe it can be added. The parts diagram for my engine shows it as Briggs and Stratton part number 793109
@@jcondon1 I just ordered all the parts today and fuel shut off thanks
the screws snapped holding the plastic cover under the choke. How do I get them out?
The ones that hold the cover on? Most likely I would drill and tap.
Fuel filter?
James, I have a dumb question, what tool do I need to remove the red plastic chock knob, thanks George
The knob on my snow blower came already uninstalled by the previous owner. But would assume you either pry it off or maybe insert a Phillips screw driver the same size as the knob hole which might release it. It is all plastic so be careful. Even putting it back in was a bit difficult ruclips.net/video/GbHubI44rOA/видео.html
@@jcondon1 I got it off , yep it does pry's, THANK YOU
I used a faucet handle puller tool. Came off easily with no force on the shaft. Problem I'm having is getting the knob back on the shaft. Any suggestions?
I never snapper made snowblowers
Where are your two yellow oil caps on the bottom left and right of the engine? One of my caps came off while I was running the machine and seized my motor.
It had the casting for it, but was not drilled out.
I could tell something wasn't right about that float because it wasn't level when you opened it and held it upside down. Back in the good 'ol days when they didn't make everything from plastic, you could have slightly bent the metal tang of the float, and had many more years of service from that carb. You could also solder up a leaking float. The needle didn't go far enough into the seat when the float was up and bowl full. Possibly could have heated up the plastic to make it go up a bit, but likely wouldn't stay. Gravity and heat will deform plastic.
Wish they were still metal, would have been an easy fix. Have used a heat gun in the past to make the plastic float adjustments, but do not get many chances at that.
Could it be atmospheric pressure from the area that you live in?
Turns out this model engine suffered from Vapor lock. I think that was the issue here.
@@jcondon1 That was another thing I thought about, but dismissed it . I thought it would be a dumb suggestion. DOH!!!!
Hi, what to do if the rope starter cannot be pulled?
I would pull the starter off and see if the engine will turn with a wrench in the flywheel bolt. If not then the piston is stuck in the cylinder and the engine is most likely done.
Could just have a stuck needle and a cylinder full ofGas
Could just have a stuck needle and a cylinder full ofGas
It almost looks like lime or residue from ice melt.
How much did you actually pay for the snow blower?
Looks like sheetrock dust.
Ya, Chinese built motors. You see them everywhere? I have one on my Airens blower. I think they stink. The Chinese manufacturer bought some of the Tecumseh patents which they must have to use the name if they choose. The Tecumseh motors were simple, easy to work on and one of the best blower motors on the planet. They were know as the Snow King series .
Did you ever find out what that white stuff was?????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤷🏿♂️
Usually your photography is exemplary however this video seem slightly out of focus. New equipment??
Have upgraded the audio, video and lighting. Also record in 4K now. The further back you go, the worse the quality.
Does mama know you are washing out gas tanks in her kitchen sink ?
Ahh, noooo!
Did you break the plastic choke taking it off of there?
Snurre86 no, but had to apply a lot of force. Was expecting it to break.
@@jcondon1 My old parents bought this machine even after I told them not to, and rather buy a Honda. Everything seems to break on this machine. but then again it is American.
@@Snurre86 Get video - tore apart my machine, cleaned carb and started running. Yippe!!
@@ryanloft3401 Get what?
Maybe used to transport a load of coke?
Can the degreaser you use be strained and reused
It can
Putting a fuel shutoff on anything Snapper is a bitch. They just do not give you enough room on the fuel line to add much of anything. Since I usually add a Top Hat filter to the fuel line, it makes it doubly difficult to add it and a shutoff valve.
You don't show how to take off choke knob
I think it was off when I bought the machine. There is no screw on the one I worked on. You can carefully pry it off. Also I think if you insert a properly size screw driver in the hole it might release. Here is a clip of me trying to figure out how it goes back on. ruclips.net/video/GbHubI44rOA/видео.html
Blurry !!
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