I once heard Elon describe it like a parking lot. When the lot is empty, cars can quickly find a park. As the lot fills, it takes longer for cars to find a free spot.
Hi Leigh. I have to say that I thoroughly enjoy your videos either Simon. Not that I dislike your ones with your wife, it's just the blokey banter I like. Like me and a mate road tripping. Great views that don't always align. Yeah it's a little disjointed but I love that. That's probably one of the best things about all your videos. It's real people real discussions. It's great. Keep it up ok.
This is why I love just using Tesla Superchargers :) Just did Sydney to Brisbane no problems at all, some stops were 12 minutes and then I kept driving :)
it sounds like Australia now is how the uk was 4 years ago with EV charging instructure. depending on the person's need (i only need to charge once every 2 weeks). the neighbour most likely has a time either at work or going to dinner when he could charge his car at a slow destination charger. charging a car on a fast charger will almost always be the most expensive war to run an EV
i HATE pple who charge past 80% on fast chargers, when there are more fast chargers on the persons route.. eg, someone at Lithgow charging to 100% to go back to Sydney, which will use at most, 15% to get there. You two need to do more trips together, the banter is great.
I'm not sure we have any more trips in us after this one. 🤣 To add insult to injury the final charge stop which we didn't film at the EVie charger in Melbourne. Was free as we arrived and we were getting like 240kW. 🤷🏻🤣
@@greghudson9717 Not in the video, but yes. Almost as if it were moking us, we stopped at the Evie charger at Pasco and we got like 249 or something from that one. Once we finally made it back to Melbourne and it didn't matter anymore. 🤷🏻
Guy's, I've just started watching this and it reminds me of the time we had a problem with a BMW driver at Horsham on our way to Melbourne from Adelaide. He received a lovely Chargefox card which gave him free charging as part of his purchase. He had no clue what he was doing to the rest of us and didn't care either and was not nice when I suggested the PlugShare was a good idea as you could let people know when you would be back. I gather that because it was FREE for him he was going to take all the time he wanted! Perhaps your driver has a free charging experience and good luck to him but perhaps the card should be limited 80 or 90 percent, as the lovely people at the dealership would not have the taught him anything about charging slowing after 80. thanks for the laughs.
Since your talking about chargers, I travel upto Kingaroy from Brisbane. Kingaroy have two Charge Fox Chargers yet they don't show on the Tesla map as a charger. Any suggestion to get them to add it so you can precondition.
Tesla is not very good at showing chargers that aren't Tesla chargers. If you're looking for non Tesla chargers an app like Plugshare is going to be a much better option.
Instead of the 25kW Seymour charger why not divert to the open for all superchargers in Kilmore? Only 100kW for a 800V plarform genisis car with its one board 800V to 400V DC to DC converter but a lot better than 25kW, could almost do the whole Syd to Mel route with open access superchargers, Cambelltown, Yass, Albury...
I didn’t know there was one in Kilmore, and I don’t think it came up on PlugShare, or maybe I just assumed it was Tesla only. We did this trip mid June, so I can’t exactly remember. Good to know about that for next time. If there is a next time. 😜
From my very quick research on battery charging, there are 2 stages in charging. 1. Constant Current (CC) Stage: During the initial phase of charging, the battery charges at a constant current. This is when the battery charges quickly, and the voltage gradually increases as the battery fills up. 2. Constant Voltage (CV) Stage: As the battery reaches around 80% capacity, the charging process transitions to the constant voltage stage. In this stage, the voltage is held constant, but the current gradually decreases. This is to avoid overcharging, which can cause overheating and damage to the battery. Charging a battery too quickly when it is nearly full generates more heat. Excessive heat can degrade the battery's chemistry, leading to reduced capacity, shorter battery life, and potential safety risks. Slowing down the charging rate after 80% helps manage the heat and prevents damage, ensuring that the battery remains safe and maintains its long-term capacity. That tipping point you were looking for is maybe "critical mass"?
Just been on a 1000 mile trip around Scotland in my Model 3 and the Supercharger network was faultless, made the trip easy and the range meant every time we had to charge was after 2 - 2.5 hours of driving so we were ready for a meal break. By the time we had eaten and used the loos the car had almost finished charging and we were able to set off again with plenty of range to reach the next couple of Supercharger options. I did however witness the non Tesla owners frustrations at many of the charge stops where non superchargers were in use and found it quite depressing that they were clearly not having a great time with their EV journeys. In fact the only time I had to wait to get a charge was where the Superchargers were in use by non Tesla owners who were all on Superchargers and the non Superchargers were all being left unused. Just fuels the argument that EV infrastructure isn't good enough yet.
This is a challenge that it’s a bit chicken and egg. We need more cars out there to justify there being more chargers installed. but more folks are hesitant to buy more cars till there are more chargers. 🤷🏻♂️
Can I ask you a question. In your past video your model y couldn’t make it to Albury. Is that correct because the app better route planner is saying my highland can and I’m worried that maybe it can’t since you couldn’t and the model Y is the better of that two. Thanks.
I think you probably could make it to Albury, and we probably could too, but I've never wanted to risk getting the battery that low. Also if the car realises that it's not going to make it, the car itself will change your routing and tell you to go to a closer charger. Fortunately with the Tesla along that route you have quick a few options if this does happen.
If you are anxious about getting to Albury, there is an ultra fast charger at Barnawartha North (ChargeFox) and also Tesla SuperChargers at Wodonga. It is an easy run from Barnawartha to Gundagai, and from there to Goulburn. I do that trio often in my 60kWh LFP Model Y rwd. The advantage of using the Barna site is that it is cheaper and faster than the Tesla site in Wodonga, but can be unreliable (as per this video). Personally, I have never had any issues at the Barna site in 6 return trips to Sydney and beyond (including Cairns).
The 'entitled' MB driver has FREE unlimited charging at ChargeFox chargers for FIVE YEARS. Also, maybe he was a 'poor' farmer just wanting to get home, far away from any chargers on his route... You never know what his circumstances were, just sayin'...
BYD Forklift Review has been added to my list (I am not even joking 😆)
That's not a bad idea, though will take some planning. ☺️
I've been watching your video's since we ordered our Tesla Model Y RWD. Have had it now for 6months, love it.
So glad to hear you're enjoying the car. ☺️
I once heard Elon describe it like a parking lot.
When the lot is empty, cars can quickly find a park.
As the lot fills, it takes longer for cars to find a free spot.
I think we are all making the same analogy. ☺️
@@notacarguy_au Very much so.
Sheepies!
@@SimonPollock I do like your explanation better.
Hi Leigh. I have to say that I thoroughly enjoy your videos either Simon. Not that I dislike your ones with your wife, it's just the blokey banter I like. Like me and a mate road tripping. Great views that don't always align. Yeah it's a little disjointed but I love that. That's probably one of the best things about all your videos. It's real people real discussions. It's great. Keep it up ok.
Just buy a Tesla is the only no stress way at the minute. Sadly. But it is what it is.
Well, if you like disjointed, you’ve certainly come to the right place. 😂 Thanks. 🙏🏼
This is why I love just using Tesla Superchargers :)
Just did Sydney to Brisbane no problems at all, some stops were 12 minutes and then I kept driving :)
Yeah, it really is a non-issue when doing it with a Tesla. Hopefully things improve for all the other brands soon.
@@notacarguy_au some tesla sites are open to third party worth checking the tesla app for that 🙌
Loved the sheep analogy.
It is an interesting way of looking at it. ☺️
it sounds like Australia now is how the uk was 4 years ago with EV charging instructure. depending on the person's need (i only need to charge once every 2 weeks). the neighbour most likely has a time either at work or going to dinner when he could charge his car at a slow destination charger. charging a car on a fast charger will almost always be the most expensive war to run an EV
Yes, interesting times.
i HATE pple who charge past 80% on fast chargers, when there are more fast chargers on the persons route.. eg, someone at Lithgow charging to 100% to go back to Sydney, which will use at most, 15% to get there.
You two need to do more trips together, the banter is great.
I'm not sure we have any more trips in us after this one. 🤣 To add insult to injury the final charge stop which we didn't film at the EVie charger in Melbourne. Was free as we arrived and we were getting like 240kW. 🤷🏻🤣
@@notacarguy_au So you did manage to crack the 200kWh barrier after all !
@@greghudson9717 Not in the video, but yes. Almost as if it were moking us, we stopped at the Evie charger at Pasco and we got like 249 or something from that one. Once we finally made it back to Melbourne and it didn't matter anymore. 🤷🏻
Guy's, I've just started watching this and it reminds me of the time we had a problem with a BMW driver at Horsham on our way to Melbourne from Adelaide.
He received a lovely Chargefox card which gave him free charging as part of his purchase. He had no clue what he was doing to the rest of us and didn't care either and was not nice when I suggested the PlugShare was a good idea as you could let people know when you would be back. I gather that because it was FREE for him he was going to take all the time he wanted! Perhaps your driver has a free charging experience and good luck to him but perhaps the card should be limited 80 or 90 percent, as the lovely people at the dealership would not have the taught him anything about charging slowing after 80. thanks for the laughs.
Yeah, as I often think, it mostly comes down to education, no?
Since your talking about chargers, I travel upto Kingaroy from Brisbane. Kingaroy have two Charge Fox Chargers yet they don't show on the Tesla map as a charger. Any suggestion to get them to add it so you can precondition.
Tesla is not very good at showing chargers that aren't Tesla chargers. If you're looking for non Tesla chargers an app like Plugshare is going to be a much better option.
Instead of the 25kW Seymour charger why not divert to the open for all superchargers in Kilmore? Only 100kW for a 800V plarform genisis car with its one board 800V to 400V DC to DC converter but a lot better than 25kW, could almost do the whole Syd to Mel route with open access superchargers, Cambelltown, Yass, Albury...
I didn’t know there was one in Kilmore, and I don’t think it came up on PlugShare, or maybe I just assumed it was Tesla only. We did this trip mid June, so I can’t exactly remember. Good to know about that for next time. If there is a next time. 😜
From my very quick research on battery charging, there are 2 stages in charging.
1. Constant Current (CC) Stage: During the initial phase of charging, the battery charges at a constant current. This is when the battery charges quickly, and the voltage gradually increases as the battery fills up.
2. Constant Voltage (CV) Stage: As the battery reaches around 80% capacity, the charging process transitions to the constant voltage stage. In this stage, the voltage is held constant, but the current gradually decreases. This is to avoid overcharging, which can cause overheating and damage to the battery.
Charging a battery too quickly when it is nearly full generates more heat. Excessive heat can degrade the battery's chemistry, leading to reduced capacity, shorter battery life, and potential safety risks.
Slowing down the charging rate after 80% helps manage the heat and prevents damage, ensuring that the battery remains safe and maintains its long-term capacity.
That tipping point you were looking for is maybe "critical mass"?
See! Sheep into a paddock :D
That's interesting, I didn't know about that aspect of it.
Just been on a 1000 mile trip around Scotland in my Model 3 and the Supercharger network was faultless, made the trip easy and the range meant every time we had to charge was after 2 - 2.5 hours of driving so we were ready for a meal break. By the time we had eaten and used the loos the car had almost finished charging and we were able to set off again with plenty of range to reach the next couple of Supercharger options. I did however witness the non Tesla owners frustrations at many of the charge stops where non superchargers were in use and found it quite depressing that they were clearly not having a great time with their EV journeys. In fact the only time I had to wait to get a charge was where the Superchargers were in use by non Tesla owners who were all on Superchargers and the non Superchargers were all being left unused. Just fuels the argument that EV infrastructure isn't good enough yet.
This is a challenge that it’s a bit chicken and egg. We need more cars out there to justify there being more chargers installed. but more folks are hesitant to buy more cars till there are more chargers. 🤷🏻♂️
Can I ask you a question. In your past video your model y couldn’t make it to Albury. Is that correct because the app better route planner is saying my highland can and I’m worried that maybe it can’t since you couldn’t and the model Y is the better of that two. Thanks.
I think you probably could make it to Albury, and we probably could too, but I've never wanted to risk getting the battery that low.
Also if the car realises that it's not going to make it, the car itself will change your routing and tell you to go to a closer charger.
Fortunately with the Tesla along that route you have quick a few options if this does happen.
Thank you so much for your help.
If you are anxious about getting to Albury, there is an ultra fast charger at Barnawartha North (ChargeFox) and also Tesla SuperChargers at Wodonga. It is an easy run from Barnawartha to Gundagai, and from there to Goulburn. I do that trio often in my 60kWh LFP Model Y rwd. The advantage of using the Barna site is that it is cheaper and faster than the Tesla site in Wodonga, but can be unreliable (as per this video). Personally, I have never had any issues at the Barna site in 6 return trips to Sydney and beyond (including Cairns).
Base toyota corolla is priced at $36K drive away.
but you have a corolla.
So not that far off a Ora Cat?
$18k....weird guy, back alley....
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Thanks for letting me know. I’ll look into it and hopefully sort out as soon as I can.
pc for short -height deficient lol also like all your content even though i dont own an ev
Come down here and say that. 😜
@@notacarguy_au its all good im in the height deficient club as well
By height deficient, I assume you meant vertically challenged ?
Not- total good trip~ see ya~ =))
thanks, I think. 🤔
@@notacarguy_au not. total good.
@@SimonPollock 🤣
The 'entitled' MB driver has FREE unlimited charging at ChargeFox chargers for FIVE YEARS. Also, maybe he was a 'poor' farmer just wanting to get home, far away from any chargers on his route... You never know what his circumstances were, just sayin'...
Yes, one does never know others circumstances.