Never really been into changing dart points at all, I've never changed any in my sets of darts, I actually prefer just a standard silver point at 32mm and just put a few stratches on the side of points they grip the board perfectly for my liking 🎯👍💯🙂
I'd be worried about wrecking my board! You can only rotate so often and they look damaging. ( Maybe Simon Whitlock will be interested ). Another great review.
I dont get the whole changing points thing in darts.. Bouncers are very rare and mostly caused by hitting the wire.. a grippier point wont help at all.. I think its mostly done to "just change something" once you have played with your setup for quite some time and there is no progress anymore.. you change anything on your dart and you feel like you are doing better again.
Yeah I think it is partly that and also because it's kind of become a fashion or fad mostly due to people seeing the pros using them. I am pretty sure I have said same thing in every points review that I was always happy with a bog standard black coated point 🙂
EU buyers if you buy them the webshop is not IOSS registered website. It says taxes are included, but vat is not payed, so you will pay cost (15€) + vat(on complete order + transport) instead of only price on website. So a order priced 69 Euro without transport cost will cost you in total 111 Euro. And as bonus because its not auto approved at border because not IOSS website it will also take couple of extra days before they release it because of the extra checks.
One reason the board gets wrecked might also be that it's s blade 6 TC. I had the same problem with mibgrip points on mine. I switched back to a blade 5 regular and it looks pristine even playing with mibgrip for a couple months on it.
Another good one mate, well done. I think its time all darts manufacturers come to an agreement and changes everything to Swiss Points. They can call it whatever they want but the idea is changing points with ease, just like soft tip darts. There's nothing more convenient than that.
Thanks! The idea of Swiss points like I have always said is a great one, the issue is people dont trust them not to break as they did often and easily when they first came out, I know they have improved since then but people still say they get them breaking too easily.
Lol I was going to do some digging but the ground is like concrete so sack that, still plenty of other stuff to do though, I just work around the aches when I can 😊
I like to use the Target Firestorm Onyx at home for the simple reason of them having that smooth transition from point to barrel...better for the flights or flight systems like the AK5 from Cuesoul. The Taurus points look hella interesting to me, but they also look like real board killers. I´m not too fond of having to buy a new board every month, so I´ll surely pick up one or two sets of these points when I see them , but will not make ´ em my standard points for training at home.
What are the grippiest points you e used for finger grip? I only have two fingers on the barrel and a third on the point, constantly feel like it's slipping
As said many times in my reviews over years when reviewing darts with new shiny silver points, they are the worse for just dropping out the board unless you scuff them up like I have advised people to do. Otherwise I just stick with black coated points, no need to scuff them up and they stick fine for me, but of course they dont look so good when the coating wears off and they may need scuffing at that point, but I have used my Harrows Predators with the points they came with since I reviewed them and not had any issues worth mentioning :)
Awesome review, Darren. I have a question: I own the Designa repointing tool. It generally works ok, but on several occasions I couldn't get machine pressed points out and it's really annoying. They just won't come out no matter what. So, are there any more advanced repointing machines or ones that are of higher quality that I don't have to twist so hard? They all seem to look alike, but with a huge difference in price. Any recommendations are most appreciated.
Thanks mate. Some points are crazy hard to get out, I had a really hard time pulling out the points on the Harrows Predators recently when I did the review on the new Mission points. Target do a tool that can be clamped to a table and I think Bulls have a similar one too but I think they are around £130. I also seen one on ebay which I have not seen in shops, supposedly a pro tool but it was over £500!
oof, board killers, love a good set of winmau free flos, never really had any issues of darts falling out, that said I did throw mine like I hate them😂😂😂. Good review as always Darren 👍
I've never had much trouble with darts falling out but it happens now and then, not sure it's regular enough to say I need more grippy points but if I was playing competitively I would consider them 😊
Hi Darren, do you know why the majority of the players still play with a silver point instead of a black point? I know scuffing them up makes a bit of a difference but why than not go for black? It's special but i like silver points sometimes more than blacks, so that may answer my own question.
These look similar to the Hawk points or Talon points from Eagle darts. I repointed some conversation points with them lol , I did a little RUclips short showing them if you want to take a look
@@DartsReviewChannel it’s absolutely fine no different than a regular point and easy to pull out. I got the full length grip ones but you can also get them with just the tip coated. Lots of customs options available including Swiss point options
I understand why people who have a lot of drop outs would use a grippy point but I don't seem to have that problem. I like smooth steel ones, don't even like the black coated ones.
@@DartsReviewChannel I’m not disagreeing, rough points will always hold a dart in the board better than smooth. I think it’s more about physics. There are other factors, the angle the dart enters the board and its velocity. Weight of the dart and the length of the point. I've been playing since 1980 and from my own experience and watching the pros I feel drop outs have more to do with the players technique than the point or the board. Whitlock and Michael Smith have a lot of drop outs but not Wright or Van Gerwen.
@@johnbrann75 Oh yes I agree with that too. One thing I meant to mention on my update on the Eclipse Ultra which I think I forgot was that I felt that particular board for whatever reason seems to hold the shiny silver points better, now that could be because Unicorn often put them in their darts or it could be I was just imagining it lol I was going to ask if anyone else had noticed the same though. I did buy a Bulls Advantage I think it was, years ago. It was so hard though that sometimes my darts would just bounce off the sisal. I had to sharpen my points more to make them stick, problem was when they hit the wire they would get hooked nosed. Not sure grippy points would have done much better though, it was a while before I got that board soft enough and by then the spider was falling out.
They contacted me and said they would send some but not heard any more since. To me they just looked the same as the M.I.B. points I've reviewed already though 🙂
@@DartsReviewChannel there is indeed. MIBGRIP have done the hard work, and the rest copy ! None of these new company’s have brought anything new out. But they will once MIBGRIP does ….
If the repointing tools were a bit more affordable here in Canada I would be interested in some longer points, definitely not these points though. My board would be toast after a month. 🤣😂
If you dont need them there is no point (excuse the pun) in getting them really, but if you are playing competitively and want to take the worry away from a dropped dart or are playing on a dodgy board thats not hold the darts well for whatever reason then yes such points are worth considering. For most people playing on a home board though its not required.
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Alternative name of the point: Taurus Board Killer
Never really been into changing dart points at all, I've never changed any in my sets of darts, I actually prefer just a standard silver point at 32mm and just put a few stratches on the side of points they grip the board perfectly for my liking 🎯👍💯🙂
Same here 🙂
I'd be worried about wrecking my board! You can only rotate so often and they look damaging. ( Maybe Simon Whitlock will be interested ). Another great review.
Yeah thats why I think its not worth using them if just practicing at home, keep them for a match situation :) Cheers! :)
I dont get the whole changing points thing in darts..
Bouncers are very rare and mostly caused by hitting the wire.. a grippier point wont help at all..
I think its mostly done to "just change something" once you have played with your setup for quite some time and there is no progress anymore.. you change anything on your dart and you feel like you are doing better again.
Yeah I think it is partly that and also because it's kind of become a fashion or fad mostly due to people seeing the pros using them. I am pretty sure I have said same thing in every points review that I was always happy with a bog standard black coated point 🙂
Darren, nice review. Agree with several others; don't like them as they would wreck your home board. Thanks and keep the reviews rolling.
Thanks Mike! :)
EU buyers if you buy them the webshop is not IOSS registered website.
It says taxes are included, but vat is not payed, so you will pay cost (15€) + vat(on complete order + transport) instead of only price on website.
So a order priced 69 Euro without transport cost will cost you in total 111 Euro.
And as bonus because its not auto approved at border because not IOSS website it will also take couple of extra days before they release it because of the extra checks.
i got the 50mm length in my searles and they are great, sanded the ends off as need the grip more for the finger and i love em
Nice one, I am sure many who like grippy points will love them :)
One reason the board gets wrecked might also be that it's s blade 6 TC. I had the same problem with mibgrip points on mine. I switched back to a blade 5 regular and it looks pristine even playing with mibgrip for a couple months on it.
The B6TC is a bit on the soft side I know :)
Another good one mate, well done. I think its time all darts manufacturers come to an agreement and changes everything to Swiss Points. They can call it whatever they want but the idea is changing points with ease, just like soft tip darts. There's nothing more convenient than that.
Thanks! The idea of Swiss points like I have always said is a great one, the issue is people dont trust them not to break as they did often and easily when they first came out, I know they have improved since then but people still say they get them breaking too easily.
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Still getting those treble 20's mate 👏 Whitlocks got nothing on these bad boys 😉 take it easy with the gardening 🎯 happy darting 🎯
Lol I was going to do some digging but the ground is like concrete so sack that, still plenty of other stuff to do though, I just work around the aches when I can 😊
I like to use the Target Firestorm Onyx at home for the simple reason of them having that smooth transition from point to barrel...better for the flights or flight systems like the AK5 from Cuesoul.
The Taurus points look hella interesting to me, but they also look like real board killers. I´m not too fond of having to buy a new board every month, so I´ll surely pick up one or two sets of these points when I see them , but will not make ´ em my standard points for training at home.
The Target Firestory Onyx got very smooth for me very fast.
They live up to their name for sure 😊
When will the dart board manufacturers release the first concrete reinforced sisal dartboards ??
😁😊
*Simon Whitlock joined the chat*
Great review Darren!
Cheers Paul! :)
What are the grippiest points you e used for finger grip? I only have two fingers on the barrel and a third on the point, constantly feel like it's slipping
if its just for finger grip you are probably best checking out the ones with grooves built into the point, there is lots of those out there.
I'll stick with using the concrete step outside the local to sharpen the points 😉
Ah but can you take that step with you when playing away games lol 😜
@@DartsReviewChannel fair point well presented 🤣
I do the same, the step doesn’t have to travel to away games, I just use it before I leave
Is it the same step? Sounds good this step, I may have to do a review of it lol😜
Standard silver points, rough up with sand paper best advice I was given
As said many times in my reviews over years when reviewing darts with new shiny silver points, they are the worse for just dropping out the board unless you scuff them up like I have advised people to do. Otherwise I just stick with black coated points, no need to scuff them up and they stick fine for me, but of course they dont look so good when the coating wears off and they may need scuffing at that point, but I have used my Harrows Predators with the points they came with since I reviewed them and not had any issues worth mentioning :)
@@DartsReviewChannel all darts In my opinion should come with black points like harrows have done
Awesome review, Darren. I have a question: I own the Designa repointing tool. It generally works ok, but on several occasions I couldn't get machine pressed points out and it's really annoying. They just won't come out no matter what. So, are there any more advanced repointing machines or ones that are of higher quality that I don't have to twist so hard? They all seem to look alike, but with a huge difference in price. Any recommendations are most appreciated.
Thanks mate. Some points are crazy hard to get out, I had a really hard time pulling out the points on the Harrows Predators recently when I did the review on the new Mission points. Target do a tool that can be clamped to a table and I think Bulls have a similar one too but I think they are around £130. I also seen one on ebay which I have not seen in shops, supposedly a pro tool but it was over £500!
Whitlock points got some oponents lol . What Rocky The Main Star says after few hours of practice with these points ?
He said his claws are more grippy 🐶😁
@@DartsReviewChannel and hit few more 9 darters lol 🦮🎯
Finally I can get rid of all that useless sisal in my board.
ah who needs that stuff anyway! 😁
This is actually a useful innovation.
Yep if you want grippy points they are certainly that and stick well 😊
Great review. By the lok of the points i thought it was gonna pull alot more fibers out than it did. Great looking set of points
Cheers! They do grip well though :)
Are this the one Littler uses?
Not sure what he is using to be honest 🙂
Can you put them points into target darts using Swiss point tool
No
Holy!!!! Literally HOLY . I'll stick with the standard points lol. Another great review Darren 👍👍👍
Thanks! 😊
oof, board killers,
love a good set of winmau free flos, never really had any issues of darts falling out, that said I did throw mine like I hate them😂😂😂.
Good review as always Darren 👍
I've never had much trouble with darts falling out but it happens now and then, not sure it's regular enough to say I need more grippy points but if I was playing competitively I would consider them 😊
Hi Darren, do you know why the majority of the players still play with a silver point instead of a black point? I know scuffing them up makes a bit of a difference but why than not go for black?
It's special but i like silver points sometimes more than blacks, so that may answer my own question.
not sure if there is a specific reason but may be they can see the silver points in the board better?
Ordered .just what I need my board is coming 2 an end and these points r cheaper than buying a new board at this minute in time
Has Simon Whitlock been in?
These look similar to the Hawk points or Talon points from Eagle darts. I repointed some conversation points with them lol , I did a little RUclips short showing them if you want to take a look
Yeah I checked it, they do look similar. How is your board after using them?
@@DartsReviewChannel it’s absolutely fine no different than a regular point and easy to pull out. I got the full length grip ones but you can also get them with just the tip coated. Lots of customs options available including Swiss point options
@@newforestexplorer Sounds good then :)
RIP Sisal 😂
🙂
I understand why people who have a lot of drop outs would use a grippy point but I don't seem to have that problem. I like smooth steel ones, don't even like the black coated ones.
Shiny new silver points are usually the worse for dropping out the board unless you rough the sides up :)
@@DartsReviewChannel I’m not disagreeing, rough points will always hold a dart in the board better than smooth. I think it’s more about physics. There are other factors, the angle the dart enters the board and its velocity. Weight of the dart and the length of the point. I've been playing since 1980 and from my own experience and watching the pros I feel drop outs have more to do with the players technique than the point or the board. Whitlock and Michael Smith have a lot of drop outs but not Wright or Van Gerwen.
@@johnbrann75 Oh yes I agree with that too. One thing I meant to mention on my update on the Eclipse Ultra which I think I forgot was that I felt that particular board for whatever reason seems to hold the shiny silver points better, now that could be because Unicorn often put them in their darts or it could be I was just imagining it lol I was going to ask if anyone else had noticed the same though. I did buy a Bulls Advantage I think it was, years ago. It was so hard though that sometimes my darts would just bounce off the sisal. I had to sharpen my points more to make them stick, problem was when they hit the wire they would get hooked nosed. Not sure grippy points would have done much better though, it was a while before I got that board soft enough and by then the spider was falling out.
Nice one Darren. Another case of .. . . . make it and someone will buy it.
Yeah people seem to like grippy points so why not 😊
Do this points fit Target barrels and if so how do they fit? because the points on my target darts screw in
You need a repointing tool they are not screw in points
would these be worth getting as my points dont hold in the board, I've always used a rougher point but on this unicorn board they dont hold at all!
They are certainly worth a try or you could just rough up your existing points with sandpaper or a fine file :)
Could you fit a trident 180 nose cone over these points?
I don't see why not but may be a bit of a fiddle
@@DartsReviewChannel Thanks Darren, I thought it maybe a bit tight with that additional coating, got a set on order so will give it a shot 👍
Interesting one today 🤔 not sure these are for me but good review as always Darren 👍
Thanks Danny, I never felt the need for such points but some people do 😊
@@DartsReviewChannel very true 👍 😀
Have you still got them would be interested in buying or swapping them off you?
no I dont have them any more sorry
U should do a review on PUNK POINTS they r the best put there by far and dnt ruin ur board
They contacted me and said they would send some but not heard any more since. To me they just looked the same as the M.I.B. points I've reviewed already though 🙂
Bit like all the point company’s copying MIBGRIP Darren ….
@@mattbrindley3382 there is a lot of them now
@@DartsReviewChannel there is indeed. MIBGRIP have done the hard work, and the rest copy ! None of these new company’s have brought anything new out. But they will once MIBGRIP does ….
If the repointing tools were a bit more affordable here in Canada I would be interested in some longer points, definitely not these points though. My board would be toast after a month. 🤣😂
lol :)
Think i'll stick with my regular black points. 😅
What darts are you using in this video?
I think it was the Target extreme sprint
If I was a pro player I think I'd use these, but as I'm playing at home I don't have £75 to be shelling out on a new board every month 😂
Yep that is what I said, but even so some still use such points for their home boards, maybe they have lots of money lol
Wow these look very nice 👍
:)
How long would the grip last before it wore off?
Well mine were still grippy after a few weeks but not used them any more, a lot depends how much you play but it will wear eventually, they always do.
*"Taurus - Simon Whitlock points"*
🙂
Jeez no thank you, i have some slightly grippy points and they're tearing my board apart. Imagine playing with these. 😣
If you dont need them there is no point (excuse the pun) in getting them really, but if you are playing competitively and want to take the worry away from a dropped dart or are playing on a dodgy board thats not hold the darts well for whatever reason then yes such points are worth considering. For most people playing on a home board though its not required.
for a pro player i understand the reason behind these. for us hobbiist darters, its stupid.
RIP darts board 😂
These look like they will absolutely destroy a dart board after one night of throwing.. and no amount of board rotating can save you
LOL its why I dont understand why so many want to use such points for home use :)
New board every day😂😂😂😂
Ow man, some real dart board killers
indeed :)
Treble 5 champion altho reckon I’d give u a run for that crown 😂
LOL maybe, depends on how good or is it bad I am playing on the day 🤪
@@DartsReviewChannel for me it’s usually bad lol
John gwynne died at age 77 his battle of cancer
they must kill a dart board pretty fast
Looks like it has Simon Whitlock written all over it lol...
😁
My board and I will pass.
Oh hell no.
lol
:)