T's Awesome Reaction To Death - The Philosopher
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this video, The Adventures of TNT discuss Death the philosopher
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Where do you rank this album in Death’s catalog?
It's definitely in my top 3 death albums for sure, I love the technical and proggy style and that fretless bass is doing wonders.
I'm a slut for fretless bass and Gene Hoglan's drumming. That said, 3rd. Chuck's lyrics are genius in every song. Definitely give it another shot.
5th place
1.Spiritual
2.Individual - (listen complete CD it will make more sense !)
3.Symbolic
You cannot compare the albums, every one is different and from specific phases: first 2 are oldschool death metal, 3th and 4th are in between oldschool and progdeath, 5th and 6th are pure prog-tech-death and 7th is almost power-prog! But love em all:
7. SBG
6. TSoP
5. Leprosy
4. Symbolik
3. ITP (this one)
2. Human
1. SH
One of the best heavy bands of all time. Chuck was a genius.
RIP
this album is extremely technical and it might be difficult to grasp at first listening. when i heard it for the first time in 1993, i did not like it, but it grew to be one of my favorite album. give this album a chance. it will grow on you.
I really don't understand that people do not understand that this kind of music needs at least a couple of listens to apreciate it.
This was my favourite Death album the first time I listened to it and I had already heard Human and SOP at that point
This albums not even close to extremely technical lol, listen to atheists "unquestionable presence".
@@Trahzylisten to Epitaph by Necrophagist
@@Trahzysame vibes honestly
After I read the lyrics, my whole outlook on the song changed. I started listening to how each instrument is expressing and making the mood of what the song is.
This song and album kicks ass
Gene Hoglan (former Death Member) made a drum video on this song … it’s amazing! Makes it look so easy
Sean Reinert was so much better
I'm surprised you didn't like this one, Individual Thought Patterns is a really good album imo. It's not as good as Symbolic or Sound Of Perseverance imo, but it's still an incredible album.
Anything from Human onwards were masterpieces. So it comes down to personal preference. My order of favourite album from those 4 continually changes
Just come to the conclusion that Chuck only wanted to grow as a musician and not be stuck doing the same album over and over again. That's the beauty of Death♥️
You are absolutely right about the feel of early Death, and how it differs from later Death. Human is the breaking point and introduces a more introspective way to write music for Chuck. The lyrics also change to more complex themes.
Human is their album I can listen to on repeat and do
This is the album when death started getting really good, and then better, with the next album, and then even better with the final one, I'm sure it would have kept going this way if chuck was still alive. Once you get over the brutal death metal phase, which is still good, you get more into the progressive stuff. Like Chuck's final 3 albums. Even more so if you play guitar.
Hmm. Every Death Albums are Unique. When I talked to some Death Fans. They has a different type of Top 1 album in Death. It's just that all Death Albums are Masterpiece even the Control Denied album too
Chuck planned The Sound of Perseverance to be Death's last album. He wanted to end Death because he wanted to make different music with other projects, like Control Denied. I like the Prog Death stuff, but personally I prefer the first two albums.
@@TheAntiChrysler he was forced to release it as Death album, but most of those songs were supposed to be part of Control Denied first album. Chuck wanted to get away from Death.
Shut your mouth.
Human was a goddamn masterpiece.
This album was when Chuck finally began scratching the surface of what Atheist and Cynic had been doing since the 80s.
I’ll admit: Death isn’t for everyone. LOVE IT!!!! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
It’s only for the chosen ones
@@papahims like us 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
Chuck Schuldiner, genius in every way. Incredible band.
Except he isn’t a genius, he’s overrated
@@stantorren4400 whatever troll .... Chuck was a MASSIVE talent, and was at the forefront of the death metal scene of their time.
This song is exactly the point where i started to listen to Death and death metal genre since i hated those vocal styles (maybe the most difficult Death album to get into, because of all the features it had: signature tempos really threw me off at first). It's still the only death metal band i appreciate. You could imagine the difficulty of getting into it when Metallica or Slayer were the metal bands i was more familiar with. Then i fell in love with it, riffs and solos had a huge part in making me not willing to quit. So i understand everything you said after the song. After The Philosopher i randomly started to listen to other songs from other albums so i haven't followed a particular order and noticed major sound changes that are clear as daylight now. I did that with Metallica for example but backwards and absolutely unintentionally, from their catchy black album stuff i heard in music videos to Kill 'Em All. The sound changes were much more noticeable, as i was skipping from black album to And Justice For All i started thinking "wow, these guys are getting better and better!". The same happened when i jumped from that to Master Of Puppets. You can guess that wasn't a good thing. Then i wondered "why do these guys get better and better as i listen to their discography but backwards?" and i found out about Cliff Burton's death. To this day i still believe that's the reason why Metallica declined heavily in like 5 years. Generally i absolutely love every single Death record (NEVER could say the same for Metallica). Individual Thought Patterns and The Sound Of Perseverance are, in my opinion at least, the hardest Death albums to jump into for different reasons.
T, there’s another band called Death you should check out. It’s a punk band, but one that was way ahead of its time, making 80’s-style punk in the mid 70’s, when the earliest forms of the punk rock genre (other than Sex Pistols) were just starting to pop up. Politicians in My Eyes is a good starter, or Freakin’ Out, or Let the World Turn Around.
They have an interesting history. They were a band of black brothers trying to get signed to a record label, but their race, combined with the fact that they insisted on not changing the difficult-to-market name “Death”, meant they never got off the ground. But a documentary was made about them several years ago that brought their story and music to light. Super interesting stuff.
Check the channel I’ve done them. They are awesome.
@@TheAdventuresofTNT Ah, so you did. I even commented on that video when it was posted. Lol my bad. I’m still gonna request “Let the World Turn Around” by them, it’s really interesting the way the song is structured.
Also gonna request the Pandora’s Box of genre sampling that is Fishbone, and early Red Hot Chili Peppers, like Stone Cold Bush, for some more funk-punk fusion. All stuff I think you’d dig.
I remember my friends showed me death when I barely got into metal 30 years ago and I didn’t like them, 10 years later after I was a pretty seasoned musician I loved death, it definitely took a while to appreciate them. Cynic was another band that took me a while to understand. I was not ready for death in my early metal head life lol.
Yeah you don’t go Metallica to death, some buffer needs to be had lol. Lately I feel jinjer although technically not death metal is a good gateway band to extreme vocal and instrumental technique
I love everything about this song. So damned good. The drumming, the bass, the delivery of the vocals, those riffs. One of the first death metal songs I ever heard. We're going back about 22 years ago here and it's still one of the best I've heard since.
I’ll agree, The Philosopher isn’t one of my favorite Death songs, but Individual Thought Patterns has a lot of amazing songs on it. Overactive Imagination, Jealousy, Trapped in a Corner. Great stuff.
Nothing Is Everything especially
I just saw you on this video for the 1st time. Im a big fan of Death and death metal. Like you have stated, death metal got insanely popular at this time and many bands were experimenting with their influences with other kinds of music. I dont know if you reacted to anything from their Symbolic album, but i think youll love it if you do, especially 1,000 Eyes for me. Also, have you reacted to Disincarnate? Theyre from this era and are little known. Monarch of the Sleeping Marches is my suggestion. You will love these guys trust me!
Love Symbolic
Gene Hoglan is playing drums like he was watching tv xD
Gene Hoglan is an absolute beast on drums and that fretless bass sounds crazy
Sean reinert who recorded Human shat all over Gene.
Not Gene....
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 no he didn’t lol. Absolutely not
Death and Morbid Angel are the best bands in the Death metal genre in my opinion. Even though Morbid Angel's last couple of albums suck. The material they did in the 90s is brilliant. Trey and Chuck were on the same level creatively, just a little different.
I love the guitar solo on this one. Individual Thought Patterns might be my 2nd favorite Death album behind Symbolic.
Probably their best lineup.
Gene Hoglan on drums.
Steve DiGiorgio on bass.
And King Diamond's guitarist Andy LaRocque.
They have some truly insane moments on the album, with the song "Trapped In A Corner" having IMO some of the greatest solos ever.
I dig this song; though I will say in a rare instance for Death's music... The lyrics kind of enhance this one for me.
Bizarrely it's a Death Metal diss track towards Paul Masvidal (former member of Death and lead member of Cynic).
Maybe you'd dig the other ones on the album. It might just depend on which era of Death you prefer though. The technical and progressive later era, or the barbaric early era.
the fretless bass :)
There's a band called Acid Bath. The put out 2 albums and broke up when their bass player died. If you're digging this kind of sludgy, southern death metal, you'll LOVE them. You won't really find their stuff on youtube, but, I think they're on spotify now. I would recommend NOT listening unless you're also reading the lyrics along. There's a LOT of lyrical gems that can get lost if you don't know what it is when you hear it. Their first album is When the Kite String Pops from 94, and Paegan Terrorism Tactics in 96
I got in a car accident because of how hard i jammed to this song while driving... Nobody was hurt. Woops 😅
RUSH is my favorite band of all time but Cryptopsy is my 2nd favorite band. With that said this is my identical twins #1 favorite band of all time and my 3rd favorite band. Chuck Shauldner never had a bad album ever! The Judist Priest cover on the last album and Suicide Machine on the Human album were the only 2 songs I never cared for. But Chuck doesnt even compare to my favourite band Rush because he wrote all the Drums, Guitar, Bass, and vocals all by himself and just got people to play it. How insane is that!
'Individual thought patterns' is still a shredding record, but Chuck Schuldiner backed off on death metal in 1993, and started to push more technical aspects of extreme metal... so yeah, it sounded different from 'Leprosy'... Chuck was a huge King Diamond fan and got their lead guitarist Andy LaRoque to play lead guitar on 'Individual thought patterns'... legendary drummer Gene Hoglan (Dark Angel, Strapping Young Lad, Dethklok, Testament, Fear Factory...) played on it w/ Steve DiGiorgio (bass) from the band Sadus, later played w/ Testament, Dragonlord, etc... recently toured as "Death to all" w/ former Death members paying tribute to Death.
I love when they're trading licks on the fade out.
I really like how you investigated more and then compared...individual thought patterns is a bit different, even than what came later. Personally i have acquired a taste for it and you may like this: their 2nd guitar on this album is andy laroque from king diamond's band (the only other original member).
RIP Chuck.
You are tweakin that solo was insane
Miss you Chuck.
This track didn't resonate with me at first either. After several years, I revisited The Philospher and got addicted to the track.
I love this more crisp, refined, surgical version of Death. ITP -> Symbolic -> SoP are my favorite 3 in row death metal albums of all time. Understand some folks would start with Human through Symbolic.
I'd like to see your reaction to D.R.I. - Abduction, the message behind the lyrics still rings true to this day.
After you listen to some of their mid-90s songs, you'll actually start to like The Philosopher, no doubt :D
Symbolic and TSoP albums are great, like i'm not a death metal fan, but Death is really something else with their song-writing.
honestly i think the difference you hear is the maturing of chucks voice on this one...his voice got a lot deeper growl from here on ... still one of my favs...chuck was really young first few albums and his voice was a lot different
Spot on opinion about it being 1993 and Death kinda going for the Mtv's Headbangers Ball crossover appeal. This is also the time when a whole "Nu" sound was brewing in the local underground metal scenes.
the philosopher is about the best song ever made
Gene H and I love this song. I’m not a death metal person so to speak although I check out a band or two, more into prog metal but Death was special especially their later albums.
I really appreciate your honesty. Most other reaction channels seem to go overboard with praise on literally every song they listen to. Makes it seem fake and are pandering to metalheads for the views. That siad, I'm really surprised you didn't like this song... maybe give it and the album a few more spins before you write it off.
Is remarkable your honest thoughts about this one.
You just say what you feel 🙏
I love this one so much, But is true, is not as good as their other early stuff.
Greetings from Medellin Colombia ❤️
Some Death songs, even albums, get better with time the more you listen to them. Once you get used to the idea that really at the end of the day, they were a progressive band, getting more progressive each and every album
At first I was like wtf how did he not like this song? and then I kept watching and I got your point. It's completely valid. But for Death fans (back then even more so), that was the magic: to watch and listen to them grow, evolve and not rest on their laurels. Sure they lost some power, darkness and overall atmospheric feeling of oppressive, raw aggression. But they gained a lot more, which for me (and for a lot of fans), was something needed in death metal in general. Experimentation, challenging songwriting and skills development, making its way into something as brutal as the genre. A lot of bands wanted to sound like the pioneers, so I think it's only natural that they originators wanted to evolve, so they didn't sound like any other band. That's why Carcass, Morbid Angel (to name just two examples) sound so much different and interesting in subsequent albums. Anyway, nice reaction! I digged it
Great song
Just one word. Chuck fuckin Schuldiner!
R.I.P Chuck Schuldiner. You are missed.
Kudos for being honest. I love Red Hot Chili Peppers and Sound Garden but never liked their early stuff. People always give me shit about that.
It's all very well comparing Death to the sound of other bands, but some of those bands you named are later. Mastodon is from the end of the 90s and Death is a band founded in 1984, when Thrash was just exploding. So, it's fair to say that Death is by no means a standard band and less on this album, which is the most progressive and experimental they have. I mean, Death influenced all the bands that came out after, including Mastodon. Mastodon's sound is similar to Death's and not the other way around. It's like saying "your dad looks like you" instead of saying "you look like your dad".
Greetings, you are a capo because you listen to a lot of Metal and you are really a metalhead, it is not only that you listen to listen, but that you really analyze the music because it is obvious that you like the genre and you give it its due place in your daily life.
PS: from this same album I recommend Overactive Imagination and Jealousy.
Advanced shit, even Chuck didn't mean it as that per se he was just writing good, complex metal, but he composed at another level even he didn't fully comprehend during his lifetime
Very mix jazz styles
the song is great
More Death please!
Chuck was the king, Chuck is the king, chuck will forever be the king of death metal.
There's literally nothing missing from their sound. Every different album was supposed to be a different philosophy. This Is all it was meant to be a different piece of art.
Also i think what you're saying is that it had a thrash vibe as Pantera started a new trend with their clean , slower crunch style
Awesome!
My curse by Killswitch engage.
Killswitch is trash after End of heartache
Aw man, noooo…I love this song, its not my fav but i still love it! For me, Symbolic is probably the best album. Its the first one i heard as a child and together with Human they rolled almost daily during my youth!
I think you mean the production of the recording. If you play guitar, this whole genre will hit you even more. That being said I don’t think the word “sucks” applies here, maybe not as dynamic and stoic?
It’s just click bait. People who rock with me know how I feel about death. RUclips just refuses to push my metal videos.
@@TheAdventuresofTNT yep, that's common among many of the channels of different types I follow. RUclips has been getting on my nerves over the last few years, the censorship is getting ridiculous.
Yesterday I just had my profile that I've had for 5 years get BANNED for political reasons.
If you criticize certain political movements (lgbt, pheminism, leftist extr*mism) too many times, it's considered "harassment, h8ful, or ab*sive" and apparently your profile will get deleted for "violating community guidelines".
I had to create a new profile last night and try to remember all of the channels I was subscribed to so I can re-subscribe to them, I was pretty p*ssed off when I got the suspension email from RUclips and it didn't even specify which comments supposedly violated the "community guidelines".
@@TheAdventuresofTNT I posted the link to "Dreams Are Dead" by Arcania in my reply to you under my other comment btw, here's the link again just in case:
ruclips.net/video/2tACZzn6Oms/видео.html
We can’t even talk about that stuff or our channel will be branded. Even uploading metal destroys our analytics. With 140k subs you would think our Metal reactions would get more views but they don’t.
@@TheAdventuresofTNT That's a real shame; your metal reactions are my favorite videos you do.
Sounds like this was written about Kyrie 🤔
Scream bloody gore
Human is brutal. I like it
Well, jumping from spiritual healing to Individual thought patterns , skips a crucial album “Human”. Human was a major shift into tech death territory , culminating into individual.Maybe you just prefer more straight ahead raw death metal.Nothing wrong with that.
I don't think anything is missing, just progression and growing of the band! Sorry don't see eye to eye with you on this one! Appreciate your prospective though!
Differently a song I'd go use the restroom if they had played this on a set
Jazz metal, really good.
chuck schuldiner the father of death metal🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
a maior de todas bandas
They got less raw and more technical, progressive and melodic with each album. No album sounds the same, but they're all almost equally awesome in what they do.
Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy sound the same to me. Leprosy is my least favourite album but Pull The Plug is an awesome song.
Most people that like this song probably play an instrument and get into the technical aspects of playing. There are way too many changes and fills for someone not into that to enjoy.
death is the godfather of death metal
Someone insulted Chuck and his band. Said it was stupid gore stuff or something and he got that offended he changed the bands sound and lyrics.
Don't think so, since leprosy was already about philosophical views and life. It probably sounded even harder death metal than scream bloody gore, but the theme of the lyrics already changed.
This album grew on me, just give it a time. Or you could checkout Overactive Imagination
DEATH are the father's of Death metal.
Zero Tolerance
Bro, You disliking this song isn't a bad thing at all
I personally think that later death isn't the best and it isn't my thing
You look like you would love the more old school primitive atmospheric stuff like Venom, Hellhammer, Possessed, Sepultura, Sarcófago, Blasphemy and those old school black/death metal bands
Death is still amazing though
RIP Chuck
He helped Death Metal grow to the beast that it is today 🔥🔥🔥🤘🤘🤘🤘
Imagine saying "The philosopher" is not a good song ☠️
T, I understand what you have a hard time explaining. My favorites remain open casket, suicide machine and lack of comprehension.
Dude. Check out Scream bloody gore..... Deaths best work....
React to Blackberry Smoke! You'll be Glad you did!
Slaughter (from Canada, ofc) is better than Death, imo; Chuck was for a short time involved with them.
One of them told me they had to change their name because of the American glam band that came out around the same time.
Slaughter - Parasites
... just listen to the riff in the first few seconds. 1986 I think.
Do you like Thrash metal? Do you also like Gojira? Well I wanna recommend to you a really good French Progressive Thrash Metal band called Arcania, I describe them as "If Gojira made Thrash Metal".
I recommend starting with their song called "Dreams Are Dead", these guys are incredible musicians and songwriters. If this sounds appealing to you, please check them out sometime. Great reaction as usual brotha! 🤘🤘🤙🤙
You’ve sparked my interest. Link me to your favorite song by them.
@@TheAdventuresofTNT awesome, thank you soo much T. I've been trying to spread the word about Arcania and a few other talented hidden gem modern thrash bands I've come across on my metal journey.
Here's the link to my favorite Arcania song called "Dreams Are Dead", I can't wait to hear your thoughts on them:
ruclips.net/video/2tACZzn6Oms/видео.html
Are you finishing June reaction requests today?
Yup!
Instrumentally it immediately reminded me of Megadeth, then it kinda took a turn at the chorus. Yeah, not one of my favorites, felt like it couldn't find a groove, kept changing up too much
This ultra killer track is awesome yet one of the "weaker" ones imho!
This was not a good choice of songs. There are a lot better ones. Like Spiritual Healing, Suicide Machine and Open Casket. All winners. Check out another band called Entombed - Left Hand Path. Reminds me of the music from the movie Phantasm.
There`s so much better songs that this one . Overactive Imagination, for example
I love this song. I hate, HATE the bass sound. It sounds like a fart.
Só naquela parte
Fretless bass is the best part in the whole album lol
It's OK, Beavis and Butthead didn't like this song either.
Really? I’ll have to look that up
Please react to " The Loophole by Garfunkel and Oates" next. Trust me, you won't regret..
I do love ITP, but the philosopher is my LEAST favorite in the album. I don't know why, it never really clicked for me. I appreciate it, but it isn't my go-to song in the album.
I do not think a bad Death album (or song) exists, they all are different from each other. For example, my least favorite Death album is probably Symbolic. (Doesn't mean it's bad in any way.) Some people will agree, others will disagree, and I can see why.
Death is a awesome band but every band is intidled to a weak song like this one I agree with you T. Like my favorite band megadeth I can name just a couple alright songs but nothing to listen to alot. Still great reaction my friend 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥☮️💯♥️
Not my cup of tea, but to each is own.🤔😎
Keep it to yourself
I could never get into Death's music.
To me it sounded like they need a vocalist and some musicians in the band.
Let's hear the songs you've written, composed, and produced.
@@RyanTelfer
Agreed 100%
It’s a mature broken in Death. Most people expect bands to stay stagnant, id rather see change and progression.
What? Gene Hoglan - the Drummer on this album - is one of the best drummers in metal history.
@@RyanTelfer That's a silly quote and I'm not complaining, I just think they suck, bad. Really boring song. When I like a song, you can say it sucks if you want and I won't even care.
@@fabiodewitt9140 I beg to differ.
This is absolutely horrifying I like metal just not this shit this is beyond terrible
Overrated and boring
you did not move me with your take
Dude. Check out Scream bloody gore..... Deaths best work....