Ian Curtis interview for Radio Blackburn, BBC - almost full (probably)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • You can find the full transcript of the interview here: www.joydiv.org/...
    (Also known as the Radio Lancashire interview)
    Recorded 28th February 1980 at Preston Warehouse by Steve Barker from BBC Radio Blackburn.
    Broadcasted in March of 1980 & in 1988.
    Steve Barker:
    "The interview was done late afternoon early evening in the background of the soundcheck at the Preston Warehouse. The interview was for the Spinoff show which went out each Tuesday and Thursday evening on Radio Blackburn (now Radio Lancashire). Obviously its a long time ago and I don't recall much detail other than the fact that Ian was very cooperative and friendly, recognised that Spyda was a non-professional and treated him well. I just sat by their side and held the UHER reel-to-reel portable tape machine. The interview was edited by my producer Ian Cook for later broadcast. I may have the tapes somewhere but cannot locate them easily (I did an interview with Jimi Hendrix in 1967 and lost that cassette!) Ian did not show any signs of disturbance or depression, obviously he was not one of those loud, gregarious people - and seemed very quiet spoken and sensitive, serious about his work".
    Thanks to Mark Gale from Joy Division Central who interviewed Steve Barker.
    Thanks to SB who shared 1988 broadcast.
    Cleaned and mixed by Fage, July 2018.
    Get flac: goo.gl/T3vXvC

Комментарии • 139

  • @robbinbanks7336
    @robbinbanks7336 6 лет назад +332

    '... and we are going to America ...'

  • @heekyungkim8147
    @heekyungkim8147 3 года назад +106

    Ian sounds so sensitive and gentle...

  • @christiangasior4244
    @christiangasior4244 11 месяцев назад +45

    He was so young, I really think he just needed a few years to come out the other side of his deep depression. I was similarly depressed but my attempts failed and now it’s easier for me to deal with the impulses. Still would rather be dead than alive but I can’t do that to loved ones.

    • @MichaelJohnson-184
      @MichaelJohnson-184 6 месяцев назад +8

      It wasn't just the depression, but the Epilepsy and the side effects from the meds he was taking to try to combat it. A poor tortured soul. I love JD but it also makes me melancholy when I listen to Ian and the band, but it is a good melancholy, if that makes sense.
      I hope you can continue to see the world in vibrant colors. Take care of yourself my friend.

    • @phoenixzappa7366
      @phoenixzappa7366 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@MichaelJohnson-184
      His wife said he was depressed and planning to kill himself since before he developed epilepsy. As a depressive, the original poster is spot on in his assessment.

  • @StefanFerdinand
    @StefanFerdinand 4 года назад +74

    He sounds like someone I knew but it's a good feeling. I wished there was footage of Ian actually being interviewed.

  • @yathome5596
    @yathome5596 2 года назад +35

    He is so soft spoken. So gentle, mo wonder his affliction took the final toll on him 😭

  • @snail_viXen
    @snail_viXen 5 лет назад +73

    'it's pointless making comparisons.' indeed.

    • @Ian-qs3fz
      @Ian-qs3fz 3 года назад +4

      because no one compares

  • @Edward1312
    @Edward1312 Год назад +17

    I've always found it interesting that Curtis's speaking voice is higher than his singing voice, for most people its the other way around.

  • @damacccc1515
    @damacccc1515 5 лет назад +83

    I completely agree with Ian when he says he cannot like a certain band because there’s things he likes and also doesn’t like about them. I’m the same I say I like a lot of bands but in reality I probably like a handful of there songs.. joy division went on to be a game changer, unknown pleasures is the only perfect album I’ve listened to in my life, every song is special to me. Thank you Ian for creating the most powerful and brilliant music to ever be created!

    • @dreamangus1505
      @dreamangus1505 2 года назад +1

      Closer is better than Unknown Pleasures by a long way

    • @igotdarkaether4813
      @igotdarkaether4813 2 года назад +6

      @@dreamangus1505 disagreed

    • @damacccc1515
      @damacccc1515 2 года назад +1

      @@dreamangus1505 I don’t think musically closer is a better album

    • @Chris-xd9uv
      @Chris-xd9uv 2 года назад

      I agree with you about unknown pleasures, apart from Interzone which is terrible.

    • @igotdarkaether4813
      @igotdarkaether4813 2 года назад +2

      @@Chris-xd9uv interzone is not terrible...

  • @akiraasmr3002
    @akiraasmr3002 2 года назад +19

    I liked how he mentions Bauhaus I love listening to both

  • @jeffblack5024
    @jeffblack5024 3 года назад +41

    Hadn't heard this before. Just baffling to think he would be dead less than three months later. But then it was baffling to the people he saw the day before.

    • @dreamangus1505
      @dreamangus1505 2 года назад

      Don't give the Americans any ideas - they will say he was murdered

  • @TheAlmightyBassist
    @TheAlmightyBassist Год назад +50

    Ian always seemed like a troubled but really really nice guy. I would have loved to just sit down and have a pint with him.

  • @yekayyeke9396
    @yekayyeke9396 6 лет назад +22

    Absolutely amazing it's so much clearer ! 👍🏻

  • @ustheserfs
    @ustheserfs Год назад +11

    hadn't realized how manc he actually was, lovely to hear him.

  • @sidfletcher4955
    @sidfletcher4955 3 года назад +18

    “Two tracks on that that won’t be on an album or single” Atmosphere and Dead Souls........oh my god.......

  • @Bobbical
    @Bobbical 6 лет назад +50

    Weird, Ian sounds just like Bernard with similar vocal habits and tone

    • @jamesonjaksch4883
      @jamesonjaksch4883 6 лет назад +15

      Bobbical sounds more like Stephen if you ask me

    • @jebdunkins6796
      @jebdunkins6796 5 лет назад +10

      @@jamesonjaksch4883 makes sense given how they're both from Macclesfield

    • @kinkyking3213
      @kinkyking3213 Год назад +1

      Ian's voice is deeper though, isn't it?

  • @daviddockery8962
    @daviddockery8962 4 года назад +64

    It’s easy to see why the other band mates never fully suspected he’d commit suicide. He sounds totally stable here and I’m sure that’s how he was with everyone. Such a shame.

    • @Pazuzu82
      @Pazuzu82 Год назад +5

      They never really talked about mental health and how you were feeling back then it was all taboo.

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 Год назад +1

      At least he became a legend overnight... literally!

    • @Wildrover82
      @Wildrover82 Год назад +2

      Suicide is often a spur of the moment thing. A rash decision in the middle of the night. Something like that...

    • @daviddockery8962
      @daviddockery8962 Год назад +4

      @@Wildrover82 I suppose it comes down to that, but in his case and most cases I would say, it was a build up of many factors. Epilepsy, strong medication, failing marriage, pressures of the band, etc…

    • @christiangasior4244
      @christiangasior4244 11 месяцев назад +1

      This def wasn’t something spur of the moment. I dunno if he planned on hanging himself in the manner he did but it’s clear by the lyrics that he was suicidal.

  • @EnglanE_
    @EnglanE_ 5 лет назад +44

    I love his cute little Northern accent so much!

  • @hislove4ever7
    @hislove4ever7 2 года назад +8

    clearest version of these talks i've heard, thank you!!

  • @messiahgodstar7609
    @messiahgodstar7609 2 года назад +12

    A pleasant chap.

  • @standartenfuhrer3199
    @standartenfuhrer3199 6 лет назад +16

    Thanks

  • @ProjectFlashlight612
    @ProjectFlashlight612 5 лет назад +89

    A articulate, highly intelligent young man. A greater loss to culture even than Cobain or Hendrix, perhaps, because at least we had them for 27 years, and those two great American musicians produced far more material in their almost-as-brief lives than Ian managed to.

    • @speedking7224
      @speedking7224 2 года назад +1

      Cobain was a talentless hack, worshipped by the junkie brigade. He was a victim of bad parenting, and the fact that instead of a housewife, he had cuntney love as a partner.

    • @rickallen9099
      @rickallen9099 Год назад +12

      like Ian says in this video, it's pointless making comparisons really.

    • @финик-с6ч
      @финик-с6ч Год назад +2

      @@rickallen9099 I wonder how many more hits he could have made, or couldn't

    • @brownson1970
      @brownson1970 Год назад +3

      Just look at the bones of the 3rd record!!
      LWTUA
      CEREMONY
      IN A LONELY PLACE
      ATMOSPHERE
      Ian by all accounts could put a tune together so ???

    • @benitolazio8193
      @benitolazio8193 Год назад +1

      Nirvana were a thrift store Pixies.

  • @dreamangus1505
    @dreamangus1505 2 года назад +7

    He does sound together but anybody can sound together at any one given point in time. It doesn't mean that they are coping with life as a whole.

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 3 года назад +18

    Its spooky hearing from a man knowing that months later he would commit suicide.

  • @SleepingLionUK
    @SleepingLionUK Год назад +10

    Wow.. hes such a deep thinker and sensitive soul. He says he likes to write about relations n how to cope with it...didn't he just... his nervous laugh after talking about ..were going to America. Also when the interviewer asks when do you think joy division will end it's like he picked up on Ians vibe of the end is coming soon '

  • @StartsWithACee
    @StartsWithACee 2 года назад +11

    *10. Where do you see or want Joy Division to end or go to?*
    Ian: I just want us to carry on the way we are really. Basically, we want to play and enjoy playing. I think when stop doing that I think, well, that will be the time to pack it in, that'll be the end.

    • @kevinprior3549
      @kevinprior3549 Год назад

      In a way Joy Division did carry on after Ian's death... but with a different name to the band... New Order!

  • @boxianparkk
    @boxianparkk Год назад +8

    lo que daría por un video footage de 144p de Ian hablando y mirando a la camara riendo y sintiéndose incómodo tal vez... lo daria todo

  • @Happyradio1234
    @Happyradio1234 6 месяцев назад +1

    he sounds so sweet 🥺

  • @dj-um7el
    @dj-um7el Год назад +8

    One day before their North American Tour...
    That's honestly sad.

  • @somedude2384
    @somedude2384 11 месяцев назад +3

    I wish he made it over to America.

  • @petemc5070
    @petemc5070 7 месяцев назад

    The quality of the songs is phenomenal.

  • @bluesydiamond
    @bluesydiamond 3 года назад +6

    𝕀𝕋'𝕊 𝕊𝕆 ℕ𝕀ℂ𝔼 𝕋𝕆 ℍ𝔼𝔸ℝ 𝕀𝔸ℕ 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂, 𝕊ℍ𝔸𝕄𝔼 𝕋ℍ𝔼ℝ𝔼'𝕊 𝔸𝕃𝕄𝕆𝕊𝕋 𝕃𝕀𝕋𝕋𝕃𝔼 𝕋𝕆 ℕ𝕆 ℝ𝔼ℂ𝕆ℝ𝔻𝕀ℕ𝔾𝕊 💙

  • @benitolazio8193
    @benitolazio8193 Год назад +2

    Rest in Peace.

  • @aryatalebniahir3843
    @aryatalebniahir3843 Год назад +3

    Rip hero...

  • @daniellevasconcellos2515
    @daniellevasconcellos2515 Год назад +2

    His view, on his musical status sounds a lot like Manzarek’s view.
    You can’t be categorized.. when you are of the music.

  • @TheJessienotes
    @TheJessienotes 5 лет назад +35

    Ian’s Mancunian accent is so cute 😍

    • @mrdarren1045
      @mrdarren1045 Год назад +2

      He wasn't mancunian

    • @imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580
      @imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580 Год назад +3

      I'm Mancunian, he has a hint of Manc, but he sounds more Lancashire to me.

    • @mrdarren1045
      @mrdarren1045 Год назад +1

      @@imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580 yeah I'm lancs and he sounds more Bolton or Preston

    • @mrdarren1045
      @mrdarren1045 Год назад +2

      @@imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580 even though he was from Macclesfield

    • @mrdarren1045
      @mrdarren1045 Год назад

      @@imgoingtocountdownfromthir4580 what part of Manchester. I went out with a stunner in the 90s from Gorton. She's was mint. Broke my heart.

  • @oatmilkgirll
    @oatmilkgirll 4 месяца назад +1

    i want him

  • @mrdarren1045
    @mrdarren1045 Год назад +1

    It wasn't called Radio Blackburn it was called Radio Lancashire and was based in Blackburn. They also had an office in the Guild Hall in Preston. I remember it well.

    • @garethcumming667
      @garethcumming667 Год назад

      No it was Radio Blackburn Only became Radio Lancs in 1981

  • @RubyMarkLindMilly
    @RubyMarkLindMilly 3 года назад +3

    Radio Blackburn I'm from Blackburn

    • @mrdarren1045
      @mrdarren1045 Год назад

      Then you'll know it was called Radio Lancashire not Radio Blackburn

  • @hurricanelaughter6880
    @hurricanelaughter6880 10 месяцев назад

    Glad he liked The Tights!

  • @donb.5392
    @donb.5392 9 месяцев назад +2

    I'd like to hear if someone could remaster this using AI.

  • @raytheshredgod6987
    @raytheshredgod6987 3 года назад

    RIP 💚

  • @gellegalilei4973
    @gellegalilei4973 5 лет назад +1

    💙

  • @user-cb9pr7et1g
    @user-cb9pr7et1g 2 года назад +7

    listened to this on shrooms, just wow

  • @isobellathorn5184
    @isobellathorn5184 3 года назад

    I saw..here are bones in a field by some trees in mcclfd related to or are ic. I haveever been there never gave this a listen but have solved cold cases.

  • @blackmichael75
    @blackmichael75 5 лет назад +15

    Singing voice like Frank Sinatra. Speaking voice like Frank Sidebottom.

    • @crickcrot
      @crickcrot 4 года назад

      @@daveyhando9536 there is always one.

  • @mimosorosario
    @mimosorosario 3 года назад +10

    yo the man was *HAIRY* tho

    • @kimberly1593
      @kimberly1593 2 года назад +1

      That's one sexy arm :)

    • @1000π
      @1000π 7 месяцев назад

      You’ve never met a man, have you

  • @gomaplayzyt3603
    @gomaplayzyt3603 4 года назад +5

    That 1 dislike is from ian’s wife

    • @MariaSandoval-zu5uy
      @MariaSandoval-zu5uy 3 года назад +2

      Why? Because you dislike her?

    • @gomaplayzyt3603
      @gomaplayzyt3603 3 года назад +1

      @@MariaSandoval-zu5uy the way she portrays him to the public vs what his family + friends actually knew about him

    • @MariaSandoval-zu5uy
      @MariaSandoval-zu5uy 3 года назад +9

      We will never know what he really was like behind...

    • @gomaplayzyt3603
      @gomaplayzyt3603 3 года назад +2

      @@MariaSandoval-zu5uy and I don’t trust someone who was portrayed by multiple people to be quite controlling, so his wife isn’t a reliable source

    • @kimberly1593
      @kimberly1593 2 года назад +1

      He was portrayed quite narssaistic towards Debbie, and a few others in the biography she wrote. I found myself cursing as I read it. I still love Joy Division!

  • @dragonknightofamiraka3636
    @dragonknightofamiraka3636 4 месяца назад

    Ritual Murder