Pros and Cons of going to Film School
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The big question seems to be "Should I go to film school?". We take a second to lay out the pros and cons of going to film school, the alternatives to film school and I share my experiences with film school.
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See I agree with this guy and the pros. Say you want to be a Director..what you gonna do, try and make a little film with your part-time job? At least with film school you're making things to get you noticed WHILE learning and practising at the same time. Like he said, you can use the equipment, facilities and make connections and friends for life..all topped off with hands on experience. I think it's worth it
Did you go? Share experiences if so... I'm considering it.
Where are you going to get the money to afford 70k a year tuition if you were an average student in high school? It may be worth it if you have help from your parents. A lot of people wind up stuck in debt.
@Mattz Vidz it depends on the opportunities and situations you got, i dont think there's right way to get into films, just do what you think its gonna work better for you at your own moment
@Mattz Vidz And you're 18? Im 19 and havent even picked up a real camera yet. Thats pretty inspiring. Was it hard getting work with your age?
If you're going to do film school, it wouldn't hurt to get a bachelors degree in it because, worst case scenario, you can still get a decent job with the bachelors. I agree with your parents in that area. I have two jobs at the moment but I acquired them through friends, so I didn't necessarily have to use my bachelors to get them. I know that if I had to use my bachelors to get a job I'd be in a much better position than if I didn't have the bachelors. At the end of the day, it honestly doesn't hurt to get it =)
***** Tuition definitely stings =)
D4Darious what are my chances as a film editor if i go to film school
+D4Darious Could you recommend any books on film for learning the craft independently? Thanks.
+D4Darious how about grad school? That is different right? I was always passionate about film and have some regret not going into film school. But now that I'm almost done my degree in New Media, should I go into film grad school?
I would recommend Robert Rodriguez;s "Rebel Without a Crew".
Filming is just like art or singing. You can go to school for those things and learn about them. But that knowledge does nothing if you can't sing a simple note, or draw a circle. I think school is great for advancing, making friends, and learning new things. But it's just like what you said, it all boils down to what you can make and how passionate you are about making it.
You hit the nail on the Head. It still comes down to the individual and how passionate they are about making it happen. If they're truly passionate then the rest will work itself out.
I think it's mainly the older generations who are obsessed with institutionalized learning. For stuff like medicine and law, I think proper schooling and a degree are essential, for anything creative, not so much. My parents' generation (aged 70+) still seem to believe that you can't possibly work in a field that you haven't studied for properly, i.e. with a diploma or degree. If you can't motivate yourself to go out there and make stuff, maybe you need to look for a more structured kind of job. But I get the 'access to gear' point of film school. Then again, nowadays the consumer cameras and other equipment are getting better and better!
I'm a filmmaker and screenwriter. I have screenwriting experience and video editing experience. I've been doing video editing since 2003 and I started writing screenplays in 2006. I've learned video editing basically on my own through my own video projects. I started practicing screenwriting in 2006 after I read my first issue of Movie Maker magazine which I still have to this day. I've read books and articles on screenwriting and on the craft of writing period. I've learned on my own about filmmaking and screenwriting through independent studying on my own. So you're right. Some cowboys do ride alone. I'm one of them. I continue to learn and study and gain knowledge of filmmaking and screenwriting on my own. Sometimes I do contemplate film school, but I just can't afford it. So I go the lone ranger route. Trying to find my own way is difficult, but I believe that I will get there. I hope so.
+agentbl For me I am going to use VideoPad Editor for my movies.
Cynthia Utz adobe premiere pro all the way
has anyone bought your any of your scripts?
Good luck!
This is one of the most down to earth, straightforward, honest assessments of the pros and cons of filmschool from a personal perspective. You emphasized the key that many students don't understand going into it - that is, you get out of it what you put into it.
Film school is just one resource that a person learning the craft of filmmaking could use. Ultimately, you have to eat, sleep, and breathe films and take as many opportunities as you can to make them - largely without monetary compensation - in order to get to a level that people will notice you and trust you with their funding. The degree itself, the piece of paper, has little meaning other than showing your ability to complete a training program. It's the experience, the practice, the body of work you build, and the relationships that matter.
I'm currently at university with a double major in Interactive-Web-Management and Radio-TV-Film. I joined the Radio-TV-Film program rather late, so I haven't got a proper chance to form any meaningful relationships or toy around in a film set as much I'd like to. So the plan I currently have is once I graduate, I would apply for a day job in either online marketing, journalism, a TV station, radio station, whatever, and spend a year saving up and getting some personal experience on the side. Then I'll apply to a film school as my post-graduate education, and use the program to properly learn my craft, find what I'm good at, make friends, and try out equipment (get a feel for the industry to see what I can do).
I love how everyone mentions all those directors who made it without filmschool but dont mention millions of directors who didnt make it with and without filmschool. You dont need filmschool to become a good filmmaker but it gives you huge advantages. You will be learning a lot outside of school but if you go to filmschool you have had the taste of both worlds. Filmschool doesnt stand in the way of your progress, so after you are done with it you can always continue learning from other sources.
thanks for saving me 100K
Mindy More Any time Mindy =) Good luck!
I went to VancouverFilmSchool in the 3D animation & visual effects program and I'd like to share a little bit of information about my time there.
I really liked my experience, the stuff we learned and the instructors there were golden. The equipment we had was really good, they were constantly upgrading the software and hardware to make sure we had the latest goodies. The cameras were a little outdated (sony EX1) but I'm pretty sure they're going to change them soon. I liked how much emphasis they put on acquiring soft skills, which are just as important as core skills when you're trying to land a job and keep it.
However, if anyone is thinking about going to a school like this, you should be aware of something first. While it's true that you don't need much prior knowledge to get in, it is usually easier to get a job if you are experienced beforehand. For example, I was one of the students in my class with the most prior experience and I was the first one in our class to get a job (a really good one too). I'm not saying you won't get hired, you simply need to work a little harder to achieve your goal.
Great video man! Having this dilemma at the moment, mainly due to the tuition fees. I am, however, extremely grateful to RUclipsrs like you and many others who are providing information about film-making for everyone and for free! :)
Reading blogs + Learning from RUclips videos + Applying the knowledge to make my own films = My Film School! :)
My first thought was "Yeah I could watch tutorials on RUclips and learn everything by myself". But when I tried to apply for jobs, they wouldn't even look at me. As if I was screaming, telling them: "HEY!!! I CAN DO THIS! I CAN DO THAT!! I CAN DO THOSE!!". And they easily replied "You didn't even have any supporting education background." I only have a shitty smartphone that takes horrible picture. And right now I just finished shooting my first movie using that phone and editing the clips, and will submit my work for their scholarship challenge.
Why not show them your work instead?
Try starting at the bottom and doing gigs for free. Start as a PA on indie projects and you’ll find people with 40+ years industry experience will be MORE than willing to take you under your wing if you’re motivated and reliable. Seen it happen last weekend.
After that, use his reference to get jobs, with your experience get that office job you want.
Even then, maybe it’s different where you are, but I could get any editing job I wanted here in my city where VFX is absolutely blowing up. But I don’t want to work in post prod. They’re always looking for runners and assistants and that’s really your entry way.
As the guy above me said, show then your work. Look up portfolios on Vimeo, save the best ones and the worst ones, try to explain why they work or don’t work. Build yours.
How’s it going after a year?
How do you find positions for PA or entry level jobs or internships? @@jsmith434w
@@ogiola Local Facebook film groups. Look up VFX studios in your city. Make good impressions, make connections. My city has like 15-20 studios, so I'm lucky.
In my city, there's a film technician's union so I can get jobs from there, it's tricky though.
There's also a film magazine where I live that shows which places are currently working on movies and on which stage they are, you can call them and ask if they need help.
Try calling some career councilor at a local film school, maybe they'll give you some advice, if they're nice.
I also heard of a guy who drove around and found film shoots, walked up to the, I assume, line producer (not sure of the English title for the guy that handles PAs on a film set) and asked if they needed a PA (hint: they always do.)
It helps if you have a driver's license, can drive a cube truck or know first aid.
John Smith I was looking at job positions online from websites like indeed or google. And most want a bachelors degree along with 5+ years of experience. How do people move pass this?
Very thankful I found your videos. I'm gearing up for my first feature film on a low budget. Watching these videos have helped in the parts that I didn't fully understand. I didn't go to film school but I worked on enough sets to really meet lots of cool people that are now willing to help me out on my project. Keep up these solid videos. More people need this knowledge
Undefeated Losers Good luck on your first feature Undefeated. It's terrifying but exhilarating all at the same time. Just make sure your story is as strong as it can be before you jump into shooting. Don't rush it.
how do you go about getting jobs on sets? where do you go? who do you talk to? what do I need to do?
Been watching a bunch of your videos all night and I feel its really helpful for what I want to do. I'm in my late 20's and taking a different direction career wise and I want to get into film editing mainly and maybe cinematography. I've done some editing on some videos before and I LOVE the process and feel its something I want to pursue. I felt being older and not having any history with any type of film in high school or any type of college credit would hurt me but this video really made me feel I should just be proactive and do it instead of worrying so much about lack of experience and just go and gain experience.
Anyway, great videos my friend keep it up!
How has it been now?
@@themoreyouknowfools4974 funny to see this pop up.
That was a time where I was trying to figure myself out.
Now running my own business making outfits for professional wrestlers while wrestling myself and dabble in editing here and there for small projects that are creative or wrestling based. Have a channel I put some stuff on here and there called Break Knyte Creative.
David Fincher, Peter Jackson, Ridley Scott, James Cameron, and Steven Spielberg didn't go to film school.
Dr Shaym Yes! I know a few people that are still paying off top acting & film schools in NYC many years later. They are doing nothing now but complaining why they never made it. They feel entitled because they went and wasted money on a "Film School". They do nothing but dream. No ambition and 0 drive with big dreams= nothing but heartbreak. Nobody is handing anything to anyone. If you want it, you have to earn it, and you can do it. Now go get it people!
Dr Shaym bill gates dropped out of college too but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't go to school.
Dr Shaym Don't forget Christopher Nolan and Quentin Tarantino.
LMDigital Movies And Robert Rodriguez...
+Dr Shaym Steven spielberg did after 33 years XD haha he entered shindlers list as his student film!
OMG I SEARCHED UP "pros and cons for going to new school" AND IM GOING TO A FULM SCHOOL SO THIS IS THE OERFECT VIDEO
IDontGetPaidProductions ha Glad you found what you were looking for and best of luck with film school ;)
thanks!
IDontGetPaidProductions good luck with fulm school, and I hope found a lot out of this oerfect video :)
This is an insightful and honest video! Thanks for sharing.
This was very helpful, thank you! I've been very torn about going to film school, it's great to hear advice from someone who's actually experienced the system.
Gonzo Beans Thank you Gonzo. You'll make the right choice that works best for you. Don't worry about it to much =)
I think it's also worth mentioning that film school is a great place to meet people who not only become your trusted friends, but also your rivals. Friendly competition is huge in film school, and a lot of what I've learned at school has been from trying to make movies that are better than my friends' movies.
I enjoy your videos. I personally disagree with film school. Like you mention you can pretty much get it on-line. Theory is great but I haven't time traveled yet. Five things beginner filmmakers should realize are: 1) it's not the latest gear that makes it a great story, 2) always shoot for the edit, you get the shots you need not coverage (coverage takes time and wears people and crew out), 3) You are showing a story that makes the audience emotionally involved so, know your target market, 4) Distribution needs a few things like: subtitles, actors on different timelines for translations, sound effects as well (some sounds are offensive in other countries and they need to cover them up), 5 ) expect to give away your first film to get recognition. The logic behind that is: more than likely your first feature is going to be your trial if you will: can you get a feature done? Best wishes to everyone in this crazy business. Thanks D for the videos, my friend.
Nice explanations, man! Way to pay attention to detail!
Rustic B thank you Rustic!
Ayy rustic
Reppin' Columbia College Chicago class of '15!
How has two years in the real world been? CCC '11 here.
wish u knew what GOOD u r doing to people like myself. normally i dont like or dislike any channels or videos but for urs, i am even leaving a comment ( which is my first time ever) pls keep up i just discovered ur channel and i assure u am going to go all out to blow ur trumpet out here in Nigeria
Thanks for the support Antai and I'm really glad this struck a cord with you my friend :)
Dude I must say you are really balanced in this video. You are pretty blunt with the cons but don't gloss over the pros. Alot of the videos I have watched are extremely heated and down right cruel to film school. Like screaming at the camera and calling anyone who decides to go essentially stupid. I love how you said it's really up the person and how THEY learn. I really appreciated this.
You have so much knowledge man. I've been an AC for a DP for quite some time now and because of that, it's opened tons of opportunities. I was never able to go to college because I wasn't lucky enough to afford it (and the Florida public education system failed me miserably) But I will say that these videos have taught me a lot. I wanted to say thank you. I wish you nothing but success. I also have a friend in stage management here in NY who went to your school (carpentry and rigging is my side hustle) Anyways I thought that was cool.
Stay frosty. Keep creating.
I appreciate the opinions you had because they were the least biased opinions I have seen about film schools. thx
It took me 3 years to become a theaterteacher. Then the school I went to started a filmmaking education. And I was tired of school so I started a film project on my own and left with my degree.
Now I really feel that I made the right decision.
Thanks!
I taught myself screenwriting, but I also would like to learn some basic principles and rules. so I choose UCLA certificate program, the tuition is reasonable.
Absolutely superbly summarised mate, really fantastic video, agree with everything you said.
I've been meaning to talk about film school for the longest lol. Thanks for commenting Toby baj!
"Some Cowboy's gotta ride alone."
Dude, thank you. This helped bring clarity and new perspective. 👍👍🙏
Film school is free for me. SOCIALISM! SOCIALISM!
De To fuck America
It’s 4 years of your life you’re spending not working, not making REAL industry connections (not wannabe college kids), not meeting REAL film industry professionals and they’ll teach you everything you need to know, trust me.
Ask the sound guy how his machine works- he’ll be more than happy to tell you. That’s how much of it you’ll learn in school. If you want to work in sound after that, get boom jobs. If not, then why would you waste 4 years learning about sound when you don’t like sound?
Spend the money making 500$ films, it’s what you’d do in film school anyways. I’m trying to scrounge up 250$ for a student film RIGHT NOW when all I want to do is get back on a set getting union credits and getting internships like I did last weekend but I can’t because I gotta prioritize school since I don’t want to get burned with the class/teacher (active filmmaker.) It’s absolutely stupid.
You can make 20 of those for the cheapest film school while working and supporting your habit. If you suck at film making, make it your signature (wiseau, breen. )
Film school is great if you want to be a film executive and you’re 18 years old and want to fuck college girls and blue haired feminists for the next 4 years while getting corporate internships during the summer. If you’re studying outside of Hollywood or even worse, outside of USA, forget Hollywood outside of film festival recognition. You’re not getting that Disney internship. I know I’m not, gonna have to fight to get that h1b and a college degree won’t do me any good.
If you don’t get those internships and don’t plan to work in a corporate environment with your degree then it wasn’t really free. If you do, then it doesn’t matter how much it cost if you know how to get a job and not only keep it but move upwards up a corporate ladder.
The only way I’m ever becoming a Hollywood director is if i make connections, not waste my time in a classroom. If you’re American, that’s different I’m sure.
In Germany all universities and some film schools are for free!
Marric Media That's so cool. I wish we had that!
You lucky sob
Echt? :D
but, u need to master German somehow dude.
How do I gain connections as a filmmaker in high school?
Look up "video production companies in my city" and go to the websites for all those companies. Email all those companies telling them you like film and want to gain experience. If they don't answer your email, call. If they don't answer your call, show up to their office. Good luck
Ryan Deitch 👍👍👍👍
Knowledge
Well, here is my story, sorry it is long, way too long but it is how I managed to start out and make money right away with a little knowledge and a lot of luck.
I always knew that I love films and TV, I always knew that I want to be making videos and films but I am not the classroom type of person, I get through material too fast and then end up waiting on the rest of the class, before long I get lazy and just don't do it because I'm always waiting and stuff that.
In 2000 I did some extra work in the Lord of the Rings trilogy and this just re-enforced this for me but I didn't do anything further as I didn't know where to start.
In 2001 I purchased a second hand 35mm Pentax SLR, that's right people - a film camera, no "D" on that bad boy, I wanted to get better looking photos, at the time I had no idea that 12-years later that camera would be responsible for me going from international business and IT into full time videography/filmmaking. Nobody back then ever imagined that any kind of SLR would exist that would be capable of filming professional video.
So I learned about ISO, aperture, shutter speeds, etc, etc, etc, got a few nice photos and a bunch of junk, then after around a year I put down that camera after a year and never seeing it again. With this basic knowledge, last year I suggested to my boss that we create some promo videos because the company wasn't able to effectively spread our message fast enough thinking we could hire a company but instead, the first question though was "can you do this?", with slight hesitation I told him about my Pentax camera and that the technical principles are pretty much the same with a few little differences that I will need a week or 2 to learn about but yeah, I will give it a shot, so he agreed and we purchased some entry level gear to get started. A Canon T4i, some lights (freakin' hot halogens), mics, editing software and away I went.
After around 4-weeks of learning, setting up, testing and creating the first 2 videos I was asked to do it full time. Now around 8-months later I have created videos for a Zoo, a huge theme park, a print magazine, a luxury hotel and I am now in pre-production for a series of 3 videos for a company on the other side of the world, oh yeah, not to mention the company that started it all off for me less than a year ago.
All of this has proven what I can do and it has all opened doors for me to be able to do a feature length documentary that we are currently looking closer at as well as possibly a 30-minute international tourism documentary.
I don't personally have usable industry contacts but a sales and marketing background definitely helps to get yourself out there, I do have _access_ to a number of usable industry contacts but I would rather not use them until I need to.
It was actually only this week that I received a second camera that is really my first DSLR, the first camera, that T4i (650D), technically belongs to the company that started me off, but anyway, this week I received my 70D so in my mind this marks the week where I can really pick up my game, having access to 2 cameras and a number of projects under my belt.
Outside of just getting out there and making videos and being serious about it, my number 1 suggestion is try not to do projects under Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDA) especially when you start out, I have and this has caused some marketing issues and to get around it, on a case by case basis I get permission to show 1 or 2 videos to potential prospects, also because you cannot market yourself properly prospects aren't willing to pay as much. Then when you have achieved a lot in a short amount of time but you can only be proud quietly, lets just say that it gets pretty frustrating. As clients won't pay as much because you cannot market yourself so well, you only really meet your costs, then not to make a little extra to upgrade gear, get new tools (I'm dying for a slider, a proper steadicam system and a better tripod) and to ultimately step up your game things can get tiring, then again things get very creative - think McGyver!
WOW, if you read all of that then, WOW - you're a freakin' legend and have too much time on your hands. Well back to editing for me.
WOW. That's an amazing story Ryan! Very inspiring. I didn't mind the length at all. Your story just goes to show that if it's gonna happen it's gonna happen lol. I can't tell you how many stories I've heard of people getting into film in the most indirect ways. Thank you for sharing your story with me!!
Ughhh that's so inspiring. I wish I could get into it full time but don't know where to find an opportunity like that.
Opportunities like mine don't grow on trees but they aren't impossible to find either. I have been giving some advice to a guy in SF who found himself in a similar situation so they are out there.
The biggest mistake you can make is to wait for the opportunity to come to you, practice with what you have and then when you're at a level where you're confident pitch the benefits of what you're offering.
When you're ready and you're going to pitch something like this you need to sell the benefits, break it down to why the company needs this, how you will do it and what it is you will be doing for them. Show them what you can do if needed.
At the point where you're pitching an employer, be careful that you don't overstep and make them think that you want a permanent change, this is likely to backfire, instead use it as an enhancement to what you're already doing for the business, show initiative and ability and your chances go up.
Good luck!
Ryan Portsmouth Thanks again Ryan =)
D4Darious No problem Darious
Awesome video, really helpful.
Thank you Rad.
The only thing that stops me from going to film school is that I may loose my out of the box thinking (if i had one of course). This is what happens in my country. Movie making is so poor and when I see the graduation projects results - it makes me feel sick. This is the type of moviemaking I won't allow myself to do :) And this is the biggest complain - I am totally convinced that film schools in Belarus will limit my vision with their's. Does it make any sense?
Екатерина Троянова just because a lot of hacks go to film school doesn’t mean you shouldn’t go if you have the desire to and the time and money to do so.
Film schools can’t limit you after you no longer study there and, in fact, will be a great way for you to rent equipment for cheap or find people willing to work on your movies for free.
I really appreciate this.. I had the impression that a degree might help land film jobs. I already have learned a lot about film just by hands on practice and genuine curiosity... So maybe I would benefit from spending the $50+k on equipment and software. Thoughts?
Nice perspective. If you live in a city like NYC where's there are tons of projects for you to work PA for free film school is not needed.
15 years ago film was a hobby, I met so many people and celebs, met like minded folks, exactly what you said, you help them, they help you, before you know it you guys got a company charging folks for your service.
Great advice. I'm trying to decide myself what to do.
Excellent reasoning. This spot on describes my experiences with film school. I've met so many great people because of it, also learned how to use some dated equipment that was later useful on some shoots that I was hired for. I had the hardest time understanding cameras and lacked motivation before film school.
Film school is just like anything else. They have their issues hahaha. But they can be very very useful. Thanks for commenting Evan!
D4Darious Yeah, now I'm stuck with the debt. Not only the equipment, but their information was a little dated too. For instance, I informed my indie cinema teacher about Kickstarter. His whole world was turned upside down when he realized doctors and lawyers aren't the only way to finance a small production.
I agree with you with the theory part. I'm in film school and I had to take one on my first semester when in actuality in my book, I think it's all based upon you're own knowledge and you're own opinion if it's well constructed and to see your point in a sharp perspective. I have my own theories in any film I watch. Sometimes I listen to other theories as well that may seem interesting at times but feel like they could mean more than what they say
I like this bru its loud and clear..
Thank you Simphiwe. Tried to keep it simple.
That's what I was thinking when I'm still in film school. Heading to my final year at Leeds Metropolitan University. I learnt a lot on practical and theory. However, it is a waste of time when our film school is mostly concerned with written work rather than practical. Despite the fact, our practical work has the most percentage marks (around 70%-80%). What I also learnt that the film industry doesn't care about our films project in tfilm school. Instead, they want to know what we did outside the film school such as making our own music videos, animations and films. Its pretty bad considering we are paying £9000 per year. However, my film school has contacts in the film industry such as film websites. They help us on our cv, covering letter and a reference. Thank you D4Darious
Thank you commenting koulla :)
Darious, this is really solid advice you're giving. I'm glad I found your videos. I create comics, serious and offbeat graphic novel sort of comics, so in the same spirit as filmmaking. I've gotten something like a film school education byway of reading, acting and being an extra, creating short videos, and lots of writing. Much more to do up ahead. It's a matter of time before I take some of my comics and adapt them to film, where I go through the whole process.
Thanks for commenting Henry. I'm glad you found the information I share useful. comics and film are two very different mediums with so much in common. When you eventually make that cross over into film completely, I think you'll love it =)
I'm a senior in high school and I want to be a film production major. I can honestly say your video helped a lot with my decision about film school. Definitely gonna subscribe :) Keep up the good work
So much value! Thank you! This is truly insightful!
This seems the general response ive heard on youtube to this question, however you definately spent more time and thought explaining it. Thanks! For a married dad with 3 kids and one income, film school isnt really an option for me. Concise video, as always.
Glad you enjoyed it Gamiensrule =) Luckily there are so many resources out there that you don't need to go.
dude, you are awsome !! i m at a film school and was arguing if my friend about this, and we came to the same conclusion! Keep the hard work!!!!
Thank you so much! I have a large passion for acting and filmmaking and this video helped a lot! I have 3 yrs of high school left but it's never bad to start thinking!
***** Thank you for commenting Tyler.
Go to a Polytech! You'll learn lots about the equipment and get to go to gigs and shows and stuff to film and edit it all :D
***** Thanks for commenting BadMouse.
One of the best channels I've been referred to by another youtuber!
Man.. you just changed my mind. I was going to go to a film school so that it can help me in my youtube channel. Seems like thats not the scene.
I think you said everything, and explained all the realities I expected from this video.
I only discovered your channel today +D4Darious but I'm loving the film-centered content you put on it.
I'm currently stuck between the decision to go to film school or not and just find a production set I could get to work on.
I'd love to film school, get exposed to more film I would've never seen, play with the school's more advanced equipment, meet and work with students who share the same passion as me, make those connections, and make friends.
But, the cost...
I do have the choice to avoid spending such an insane amount of money, and instead, apply myself;
go solo finding some real work as a simple production assistant to learn about things that way, trying to get to know people in the industry that way and while getting my own equipment with my own money to produce my own small stuff to push out there and get noticed. But I would probably be tougher, and not as fun.
I really really want to go to film school. I'm seriously digging meeting other people like me and doing group projects.
Right now, I'm at my community college, and I'm working in, what you could consider a very basic, introductory film production class, but I'm working with students who are only taking the class for their own program fulfillment, and really don't know what they're doing or are interested in putting the effort in the film projects, because they are not as interested. This hurts me, and I feel like a good film school won't have students like this, but instead, those who are in for the push forward. Again though, the cost is scary, and I don't know if it's justifiable.
Very eye opening great points!
Glad you found my points useful Fudgesicle.
Thank you so much for this video it definitely helped me :) I was thinking of going to Uni or film school but I simply can't afford it. :(
In all honesty there are enough resources out there that you can use to learn on your own. You don't have to go to film school to be successful. Thanks for commenting Selina.
That is true.. I know I can find a way to learn myself. Thanks for replying :) you got a new subscriber - you are awesome :)
This is some really good advice , currently i'm pursuing a bachelors in computer science and engineering and building my film resume side by side. After my bacherlors i hope to postgrad at a film school like TISCH :D
Very helpful
reflection in glasses...
InTheLoopFacts u should see my reflective shades
the glasses are anti reflective
In film school right now... Good Video... Subscribed
AndroidNation101 Glad you enjoyed it and welcome aboard AndroidNation101.
I want to be a screenwriter and I'm pretty passionate about it. I'm writing numerous amount of scripts and loving every minute of it. The way I look at it is if you win a script competition you basically skip the film school part and the most important thing, the cost. It's winning that comp though
***** Winning a screenplay competition can definitely get you some exposure. It's much easier said than done but well worth the challenge. Thanks for commenting 9lives!
D4Darious no problem thanks for the advice
@@9LivesGamer did you make it?
Or are you into something else now?
I've been choosing to fly solo (with some friends I meet along the way) in my video career for probably the biggest reason you mentioned, I just feel that I work better at my own pace. Also, I wanted to add, in my opinion creativity can't be taught, you either have it or you don't.
Thanks, man. This video put a lot of things into perspective for me. I have this crazy passion for film and story telling and have been really conflicted on which path to take. Keep up the great work and I will tell as many people as I can about your channel.
Thank you for the support Eber. I'm glad you enjoyed this! Hope this cleared things up for you.
D4Darious hello mate...your videos are very informative..n i hope you can help me out with my query... In US you have film education imparted in two different sects of institutions one is a University like UCLA or Academy of art University which offers either a 3-4 yr Undergrad prog with a degree and 2-3 yrs Master prog with a degree in films studies..(not to mention time consuming n according to ur video not so important to land a job)...second is a Film Academy like Newyork film academy or California film Academy or film connection offering only one prog set out for all as a certificate or a diploma for a 1-2 yrs in film studies(not to forget, they claim to be very hands on in comparison to university) ....here's where the dilemma arises which one to choose from, which one are more beneficial...?? i wish you could have touched on this situation...it would have been very helpful..waiting for your input...shd a aspiring filmmaker go for a university or a academy?
kay jay I got my bachelors degree (4 year schooling). If you want to learn filmmaking and also get a bachelors degree (3-4 year schooling) then the benefit is, should you quit filmmaking, you still have a bachelors degree that will help you get a regular job. That's the only real advantage to getting a 3-4 year degree. Many of the 1-2 year film programs are just as good as the 3-4 year programs.
It's not the film program that determines your success, but how well you apply yourself while you're in school that will. I've know people who went to a 2 year film program at a community college and had success getting into the industry afterwards. I also know people who've gone to UCLA and ended up getting no where. Deciding schools is a tough choice to make but no matter what school you pick, your success depends on YOU not the school.
the quality and editing looks like 2019
Loved it.
Thank you Sebastian.
I’m in film school @ Broward College. I’m just doing it for the degree. The program is a cake walk.
This hit it it right on the head. I'm in film school right now and I love it, it's a great way build a base of talented friends and get forcibly motivated to start making shitty movies and learning from your mistakes. If you're looking for a good film school (again, with certain strengths and weaknesses) Buffalo State College's Television and Film Arts program is a great way to go. It's a public college you save a ton, the program is new so the equipment is relatively up to date, and it's production driven, you spend a lot more time being told to get your movie done than you do being told how a great movie gets made.
I'm 15 and Im looking forward to making a movie this summer. I got the script (that I personally wrote), the Gear and the ideas !!!!! I'm dying to turn 18 so that I can finally join some film festivals all over the world ! This is what I wanna do and maybe I ll attend a film Accademy, who knows ?
Probably the best information I've heard about trying to get into the industry and about film school. Thanks, saved me some headaches.
This was a very helpful video man! Explained a lot of things i wanted to know regarding the ups and downs of film school. I just have a small question i'd like you to answer about the extent of the workload attached to film studies, because I plan to study both business and film at a particular uni somewhere in the US when I graduate high school next year. So I was wondering whether this choice might be reasonable. The reason being I have a knack for business management, and an uncompromising love for films - especially the magic that happens in the making which is actually far more complex than I anticipated - something that I wanna be a part of. My dream is to become a director one day because I love telling stories the way I want to tell them. I've made dozens of skits albeit quite shitty to which I'm still proud of to this day In case I don't yet make it in the film industry, business can be a backup option until another door opens in which my path crosses that of the film world - an opportunity that offers me to become a filmmaker. Anyway, sorry for this long message I've hauled ass towards you.
And thankyou so so much for your help. I spammed the shit out of that subscribe button cos you earned one! I hope you achieve your dreams one day. (:
theprototypeguy No worries and thank you for the support Proto. Any film program you join will be very intensive as far as film work goes. You have to make short films and, by nature, making any film just takes a lot of time and planing etc etc. You'll also learn how to create professional looking content, with pro sound, pro color etc etc. which also takes a lot of time. I think it's possible to double major but just know that you're gonna be overwhelmed with work at times.
Lovely dissertation.
This is a great channel. Great points! I'd argue that film school is essential if you're serious about working in the industry. I'm a writer/director, but i edit on two network shows to pay the bills. So my films have really taken a back seat to the long hours at work. Still, I eat breath and sleep filmmaking, and if you're just reading and watching, and never applying the rules of filmmaking on a regular basis, you'll forget it all and kick yourself when you produce a finished film... then kick yourself again when you spend all that money on your film and/or festival submission fees. Good luck! Keep chasin the dream, all!
wynnfilms Good to hear from you wynnfilms and thank you for sharing your thoughts Bruh!
One of the best things I've seen on film school, subscribed!
Glad you found it useful.
I'm starting a BA degree in Film & Television in London this year and I'm extreeeeeemely nervous if I I'm cut out for this. I was very surprised to get accepted to this particular school. Despite my love for films, I need more education on many of the basics. I worry whether I'm too inexperienced and will be expected to have more concrete skills in filming and editing than I do now. I've never studied film academically before so I guess you could say I am self-taught, but I regret not playing around with my filming more than I have. In a nut shell, the extent of my experience is short films edited using Windows Movie Maker, filmed with a basic video camera or a digital camera or even my iPhone, and not really any other equipment *cringe*. When I was younger, I made some amateur YouTude videos, and the last couple years I've tried to focus more on potential film ideas through screenwriting. Part of the reason I have not put more effort into my filmmaking (or taken any courses in the past) is financial reasons; the programme I'm started now is 100% paid with student loans. Another is that I am a person who finds self-discipline and self-motivation very difficult; even though I love and appreciate films, when it comes to my own talent and ability, my interest in pursuing it drops drastically. I work much better creatively when in an academic setting, with support and guidelines. I'm a lazy perfectionist, meaning that I feel the need to work meticulously BUT if it is to hard to reach that "perfect" final result, I lose focus and motivation quickly. Therefore, I'm sure that film school is the way to go for me and I'm hoping my motivation and creative ability increases once I'm there. But my issue at the moment is that, while I'm still on my own in these few months, I feel unable to learn any editing programmes and filming techniques; I'm worried that people at the school will expect more of me, but even that worry isn't enough to get me to try to learn this stuff alone (because frankly, I don't feel like I can learn all that much on my own). It's hard to measure the things I do know about filmmaking because I'm not really sure who or what to compare myself to. Should I just expect that they will teach me everything from scratch (a question which I've gotten different responses when I asked the university directly)? Or learn as much I can about film and filmmaking on my own, while I still can? I understand that it's impossible to know everything and that I'm going there to get an education, but I basically feel like I don't know what I'm doing... and I don't know if that's just me or if every film student feels like that before they start their first year. Feeling hella conflicted.
Thanks for sharing Amy. To answer your question many people (myself included) were nervous about film school and whether or not they're cut out for it. Before I went to film school I knew absolutely nothing about filmmaking. When I got in I applied myself as much as I could. You'll learn a lot very quickly from your peers and your teachers. I know that you feel intimidated but trust me when I say that you're not alone and if film is what you want to do then just go for it! You'll do fine =)
D4Darious Thanks! And your videos have certainly been a big help and inspiration for reaching that goal :)
You're welcome Amy =)
Great advice from a fellow film school guy. Keep up the videos man!
Thanks for commenting Evan! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Love this, kind of thinking more about it now that this video helped me out!
iiKrstne Glad you found the video helpful iiKrstne. Thanks for commenting =)
Nice video Now I know that there are options film schools aren't required unless you want to make relationships with people who don't mind if you have different interest and stories.
thanks for this. ive debated for the past four years whether or not i want to go for my MFA in film making and ive already decided to move forward with applications. my top two reasons: for the immersion and the relationships/potential collaborations i can create. im in the poverty bracket now (BFA doesnt really help with jobs...) and ive been working minimum wage shitty jobs since i graduated in 2009. i think an MFA will help me get the technical skills needed to at least get a ground level job in the industry and network from there while still maintaining my own practice. another thing, i can get a lot of financial aid and scholarships to help with tuition/living expenses while im in school. unfortunately, i dont really have the means to save any money to buy nicer equipment. right now i work with a cheap digital camera and a vintage VHS camera and some (pirated) editing software. but, i love the challenge of trying to churn out beautiful and innovative work from little means. it works! and its a great way to learn about the challenges involved (i.e. continuity with lighting, etc.) thanks again!
Evert thing about film school in a nutshell....Awesome Video :D
I'm glad you found it useful Ahmed.
Hmm... I have no clue what I will do when I need to make the decision... I have a couple years until I need to decide! Great video.
Thank you LeadingNowhere =)
I'm drawn by the flashing glasses 8O
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Hey bro. Havey from Filmmaking forum. Absolutely great advice here my friend. Very helpful and I'm sure a lot of people will definitely look towards this video for advice.
What's up Justin and welcome! Thanks for commenting!
thanks man!
You're welcome.
Your videos are SO helpfull! Thank you so much!
The film school that I'm going to lets you come back and audit any class after you graduate. So if like some new format comes out you can learn how to use that format or if a new version of an editing program comes out that is totally different you can learn how to use that new version of the editing software.
Nice. Thanks for sharing Bruce.
+Bruce Wayne What school are you going to?
ayyy whats up
So fucking well said. Thanks for the insight! I'm considering LA Film school off of sunset blvd Hollywood. My GI bill will pay for a BA in business entertainment. I'm not sure where exactly I want to work within the industry so I'm hoping the school will help me find something I enjoy and can pursue.
Thanks for sharing Tommyboy. I used my gibill to go to school as well lol.
this video was so helpful, i love filming but i had no idea how i wanted to pursue a career in such and the info you provided about the industry was very helpful thanks so much (:
You're welcome Jayda. Thank you for watching :)
I needed this in my life right now. Appreciated!!
"the best school of all is practice" BRAVO you found the best combo of words to describe exactly the mentality i need!! thanks for this video it was great advice! :^P
hell yeah! so good straight to the juice. Thank you.
Best video that speaks on this topic
Thank you Timothy.
very great video, informative and to the point!
I'm currently doing a Certificate in Creative Industries, specializing in Film, Television, Radio and Music and while it's very fun to be doing and I can only hope will help me later in life if I do continue down this career but also I'm meeting a lot of people in the film industry and working with them first hand and getting work experience on set
Radio film connecting? do you think its worth? can you please give me your email where I can contact you? I need advice
Great video, I plan on citing this video as part if one of my written assignments at Hawai'i Pacific University. If you are ever in Hawaii look me up.
I've been looking into film school. Just didn't know what it would do. I think I would be better on my own, given how far I've come by myself...
Thanks again Darious!
Your welcome Cubical. Self education is definitely a viable option now a days! Thanks for commenting.
On Point Bro! Every Word!!!
You are the most helpful person ever! Just discovered your channel and I'm already hooked. Keep it up pal!
Love you darious! Keep it up man :))
u are awesome man.i dont usually hit like even though i like it but ur video just made me do it.keep it up bro.
Thank you P. I'm really glad you found this info helpful :)