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Personally I use a wing of astel paired with cold bandit curved sword. Works similar to the dragon warrior build where you use talismans to build up AR then release high damage nebulas.
it's still disappointing that no enemies in the game are vulnerable to Deathblight, especially considering there are only 3 ways players can apply the status. would've been really cool to walk up to Gideon and watch him monologue in a cloud of Fia's Mist
Yeah it is very weird. Like makes sense on the undead types, or super powerful divine type entities, but there's plenty of regular enemies and animals that should be susceptible
There should be a couple dual wield combos with synergenic weapons of different classes. Like the nox sword and nox hammer, or the clean rot knight spear, reaper and sword. Or even the carian sword and carian septor
The nox turn the hammer into fist weapons as well.. I didn’t even notice it since I always try to just wipe them out before being pancaked. Also can double up as a man bra.
Yeah I feel like the Greatknife should power stance with curved swords and the dagger with straight swords. If the Wakizashi (a dagger class) can power stance with a Katana I don't see why those other daggers cant.
I enjoy every single minute of this series, from the build ones to the "most op", im aimming to the 100% of the game, the wiki and your videos are a blessing, my most truly thanks.
That s why every body hates me when i use it Against My friends...... Didn t know that...... Now that i know My advantage i m gonna understand the wepon a bit more....
Elden Ring is one of the 1st games I've ever played that truly makes every weapon usable. If you like a weapon, any one at all, you can make it work. So many games throw 100 weapons at you with only 5 of them being worthwhile. Elden Ring you can play however you want to plauy.
In most games there is also very little difference between the weapon types or the are few types to begin with. In ER there are many different types and all function differently and have unique attacks which makes it very fun to try out new builds.
Almost everyone recommends using Millicent's Prosthesis in any dex build focused on hitting the enemy in rapid succession, and I can see why. It's a powerful talisman that's practically perfect for that sort of build. But I just can't bring myself to betray Millicent. She's a friend and ally to my Tarnished, I'm not going to stab her in the back to increase my own power. (Sidenote: I'm a total softie when it comes to any kind of moral decision in games. I'm pretty sure the "meanest" thing I ever did in Elden Ring was waiting to kill Gostoc until after I'd killed Godric as revenge for stealing my runes. Cut down the thief in his moment of unearned triumph and all that jazz. His dying words honestly made me feel guilty. Had I killed a black-hearted thief? Yes. I also killed a man who was likely a mistreated servant at best and a slave at worst in less than a minute after he finally tasted freedom. I don't feel too bad about killing him, but it sure as hell didn't feel good when I did it.)
You should have left him alive he's actually worth more alive if you do the rest of a different quest line at the very end you can meet up with him again and he's a merchant and he'll sell you an ancient dragon smithing Stone one of only 13 in the game. So killing him for petty revenge for a couple of runes that he probably needed to get food cuz they were abusing him and not feeding him properly you really missed out on a way bigger prize. Lol
You can get both talismans by just killing Millicent right before she dies of rot after helping her, so you didn't exactly betray her more like ended her suffering a bit early (it worked in patch 1.04 don't know if it's patched now )
I had decided to farm 2 bandits curved swords, and got lucky enough to get two drops within my first about 15-20 kills. Sometimes fortune smiles upon us!
a couple things you forgot to mention: there are two different movesets for scimitars. there seems to be a light and medium moveset for the R1s. the most readily accessible comparison is between the Scimitar and the Falchion, where the former is much more expressive and diagonal, and the latter is much more stiff and horizontal. also, curved swords have a Feint attack. if you try to backstep while charging a heavy attack, you will quickly swing forward and cartwheel backwards. you can even press R1 after this for a backstep attack. i believe the animation differs slightly if it is a light or medium curved sword.
The two curved swords with the unique R1 moveset are the Scimitar and Shamshir. This unique moveset gives the combo a fluid motion and adds extra range to the two swords, making the Shamshir the longest-reaching curved sword.
Wing of Astel is also super powerful as you can get a plus ten version before altus plateau, without having to even visit gelmir for the stones as you find all levels of somber in the underground areas.
@@stompingpeak2043 I dount thats the case for regular weapons as you get most if not all ancient dragon smithing stones at ends of quests that need you to advance somewhere beyond altus.
@@chanderule605 yeah. I've done regular weapons where I just do the nepheli quest. Sprinting to morgot isn't too bad. You can get two stones in like an hour. But you don't have to get +25 for it to be good. You can definitely kill a few easy early bosses and upgrade anything is the point. Nobody needs a +25 or +10 weapon to kill rennala/Godfrey/morgot.
Magma blade is pretty bad. took me 4 hours spread over a few days. Now the Noble’s Slender sword has made me question if it’s just a meme and isn’t actually farmable
I had like 100 discovery with none of the items and stuff to help and it only took me 30 mins to get 2. Definitely heard of people having horror stories though.
I had a harder time farming fairly common gear in DS3 compared the two magma blades. Normally I have just the absolute worst luck so I consider this a godsend lol
Personal favorite is the shamshir, but I have to shout out the beast man curved sword. The unique jumping attacks are insane especially when adding claw and raptors cloack. The damage for a single heavy r2 can destroy some mobs with low recovery time making for great potential.
On a 80 arcane build, an occult Scavenger has the highest AR and also highest bleed build up. On 80 dex build (and even 60/50 dex strength) a bleed infused Bandit's curved sword has 2nd highest AR and bleed. The bottomline is if you are going for pure bleed, scavenger and arcane is the most efficient way to go.
I really hope they update the mantis blade moveset so more moves involve the full length of the weapon. It really gives me saw cleaver/beasthunter Saif vibes and it's a shame it's moveset is so limited
Definitely using the Scavenger's Curved Sword for a Bloodborne theme build. I wish I could just yank off the head of the Vulgar Militia Saw to really get that Bloodborne esthetic but this will have to do- Plus some beastial incantations on the Dragon Comun. Seal.
I love these videos, I learn so much and wind up trying out a ton of different weapons that I otherwise wouldn't know to use. I also end up watching sections over and over to get a better intuitive sense of the stats or play style. Keep them coming!
Lmao at 9:20 "Scimitar has default moveset", while literally showcasing its unique moveset only shared with the Shamshir LOL, he said the same thing about Shamshir at 11:00. Youre making theese vids a bit lazily, Fextra
Other great talisman to use with curved swords is the godskin swaddling cloth, which regenerates your hp with successive attacks. It can be found in a cave at the freezing lake of the snow place
small correction here, the shamshir/scimitar do NOT share the default moveset of most curved swords. They have different light AND heavy attack chains, unless power stanced with another curved sword
I started warrior and was planning to mix up my weapons but I fell so in love with the dual curved sword moveset I ended up using them through the whole game. Plus the serpent god sword looks sweet and was really helpful for clearing new areas with the lifesteal.
For most the game, my favorite sword combo has been Wing of Astel with Cold Serpent God's Curved Sword using Carian Grandeur. It's a very good ash to have in certain situations, but not super often.
For my own reference: Wing of Astel looks the most unique, powerful weapon with interesting stat spread and multiple options. Occult Scavenger's + Occult/Blood Bandit's (into 2x Scavenger's after NG) looks like the go-to move for a bleed curved sword build. For other strategies besides bleed 2x Bandit's also looks good. Shotel + shield would be an option for a build that aims for less equipment load. Mantis Blade + shield looks like a higher damage version of that playstyle.
Occult scavenger curved swords may have higher AR than blood bandit curved swords but they don’t apply as much bleeding. So technically it’s not “better” against enemies susceptible to bleed.
If you cannot stand fighting Tree Spirits the Magma Blade's Ash of War absolutely DESTROYS them. The pool alone with decent stats takes chunks out of their hp and should you be able to hug up next to them it's lights out or light's up
Serpent god's sword is a great early game weapon. No matter what build you are trying to do, you can off-hand this sword while using anything else and still get the HP regen, so it works well with any build that hit-trades a bunch. Also it stacks with all of the hp stealing gear from volcano manor.
9:18 + 11:02 I think you "kinda" made a mistake there friend. Most curved swords do share the same light attack moveset, however, the Scimitar and the Shamshir are the only curved swords with a "flowing" R1 combo. In the beggining of the breakdown of these swords, you claim that they have the "default" moveset, when the default is actually the one that is most common across the whole weapon class, aka, the Falchion/Grossmesser/Bandit/etc. This moveset being more "flowy" also adds "slightly" more reach to some attacks of the combo. This light attack moveset is yet another reason to wield these weapons.
You say "it requires some points in" every time and you also say to put your offenses to 50 every time. It's repetitive and most people aren't playing at that high of a level if they're doing PVP. NG+ playthroughs are sorta valid but there's not more content, just higher numbers on enemies
Something else I think was left out of this video was how the curved sword class on it's own has a unique type of attack not found in any other class aside from the thrusting sword and heavy thrusting sword classes, called a feint. If you charge an R2, and then try to backstep, you will do a quick flip backwards while slashing at what may be in front of you. This is an excellent way to throw your opponent off guard in PVP, and puts distance between you and your enemy while still dealing damage. It counts as a full backstep, too, so if you're powerstancing curved swords, you can follow it up with a quick dash forward and get in even more hits. With thrusting swords, the input is the same, but rather than a slash, you do a quick thrust while stepping back. This makes it easier to execute a thrust counter while again putting distance between you and your opponent.
You haven't done Curved Great swords yet, wanted to see what was recommended for one of them and was hoping to see if you guys had a video on it, I do enjoy listening to these cuz this video helped me chose between the scimitar and falchion as my starting weapon before wanting to get the flowing curved sword for the R2. (Plus I wanna look fancy af when fighting)
Don’t sleep on the fact that the strength requirements for a lot of the curved swords are really low. This makes them ideal for Astrologers that don’t want to waste any points at all in strength but do want a good melee option. Shamshir is great for this sort of approach and you naturally can pick up Wing of Astel later. If you’re mostly casting spells, those swords are all you ever need to still have an amazing dual wield melee fallback that weighs almost nothing.
I don't understand why they put the Turkish Gaddare sword in the game as Grossmesser. The German Grossmesser is straight and has no reverse edge. There was Kilij in Demon Souls. I don't understand why almost all the curved swords in the later games are wrong and far from reality. It's like calling a katana as Tulwar.
Scimitar info seems wrong. From `Elden Ring Wiki` : "This weapon has a unique R1 chain shared with Shamshir, consisting of more graceful, flowing attacks. Functionally very similar to the normal curved sword moveset, yet faster and it does advance the user further."
What about Morgott's Cursed Sword? It's classified as a curved greatsword but is not in either the curved sword, or the greatsword video. Edit: The Magma Wyrm's Scalesword is also classified as a curved greatsword but also isn't in either of your videos for these weapon types. Will you be able to include them in a future video? Thanks for the great tutorials.
My freeze/strike weapon is the giant crusher. Also have the cestus/spiked for strike dmg as well. If areas have both I carry the cestus with another weapon so I can easily switch for only 2 extra weight. Don't underestimate the cestus/spiked cestus. They attack really fast, do great damage, stagger, and have status effects. The ultimate freeze weapon is deaths poker from the deathbird in caelid
@@jhknightmare5131 I mean there's soo many good builds. If you make it to the snow area get sepukku and use two curved swords with buffs. You'll do like 10kdmg in 3sec. Or ruins greatsword with weapon art spam. Or morgots. Or rivers, bloodhounds, etc. You should be fine for a first playthrough but it's definitely easier to use fast weapons until you get moment down imo
Anyone else here that like the Scimitar Curved Swords thought to make a Bleed Build with it for endgame because i dont Like the Looks from the other Curved swords really
i dont dual wield anything cause its dumb lol its like call of duty akimbo. 100% of players use dual wield cause its broken 😂 the balance of this game is gross. but yes curved swords are op in almost every souls. i made a mage in demon souls cause the graphics on the magic is amazing so i had to try it out. grabbed a scimitar put magic on it and have yet to this day to lose to an invader 😂 swings too fast. R1 spam too effective. by the time you think to parry your usually dead lol.
Awesome coverage on these! It would be cool to see heavy thrusting weapons soon. Ik it’s a small group of weapons and there’s not much room for diversity but if there’s anyone who can find creative and effective ways to run them in PvE it’d be you I’m sure.
The Beastman Curved Sword is the best, imo, because even with blood affinity, they scale with strength primarily. With my str at 80 and arcane at 60, it has 112 bleed buildup and still maintains most of its power. I tried catching a glimpse of my damage after the multi hit talismans kicked in, plus the white mask and bleed talisman, and it was up over 1k damage PER HAND. Combined with proccing blood loss with about 2 L1's, or strapping on the assassin talisman and raptor feathers I was destroying everything. Best part is, you can switch to a big bonk weapon if you're against someone immune to bleed.
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You forgot that the shamshir gives you more forward movement on swings. That is quite the gamechanger imo.
@Fextralife
The R1 chain of the Scimitar is NOT the same as other curved swords, hence their usefulness despite their lower damage stats.
You can also get the beastman's curved sword from the four belfries making it early game weapon
Thanks for the content. I really want to check out the wiki but it keeps saying you blocked my IP address
Personally I use a wing of astel paired with cold bandit curved sword. Works similar to the dragon warrior build where you use talismans to build up AR then release high damage nebulas.
it's still disappointing that no enemies in the game are vulnerable to Deathblight, especially considering there are only 3 ways players can apply the status.
would've been really cool to walk up to Gideon and watch him monologue in a cloud of Fia's Mist
yeah fr, like at least let it work on npc invaders and shit
Yeah it is very weird. Like makes sense on the undead types, or super powerful divine type entities, but there's plenty of regular enemies and animals that should be susceptible
The death blight sleep build is the most open build in the game way more broken than bleed,I'm 128-5 in pvp duels because of it lol
Same with madness. I think all non-boss human and animal type enemies should be able to be maddened and deathblighted.
@@hortator0767 Wait, it does not work on NPC invaders? That makes no sense
There should be a couple dual wield combos with synergenic weapons of different classes. Like the nox sword and nox hammer, or the clean rot knight spear, reaper and sword. Or even the carian sword and carian septor
The nox turn the hammer into fist weapons as well.. I didn’t even notice it since I always try to just wipe them out before being pancaked. Also can double up as a man bra.
I guess they do this kinda with the katana dagger and regular katanas. But yeah would be cool if certain other weapons could be used in this way.
Yeah I feel like the Greatknife should power stance with curved swords and the dagger with straight swords. If the Wakizashi (a dagger class) can power stance with a Katana I don't see why those other daggers cant.
@@lampshade666 katana dagger, man if only it had a name
@@lampshade666bro, are you talking about the Wakizashi
“You see those warriors from Hammerfell? They’ve got curved swords. Curved. Swords.”
A man/woman of culture I see
lmao i said this to myself when i saw the title and came here just to find a comment saying it haha
I came to say this as well.
Can someone explain the reference to my uneducated ass?
I've seen you around before. BADCompanySarge vids.
I enjoy every single minute of this series, from the build ones to the "most op", im aimming to the 100% of the game, the wiki and your videos are a blessing, my most truly thanks.
I will help you if you are on Xbox
The Shamshir (and scimitar, I think) has a unique r1 chain! It's a little faster, and it moves you forward more as well. Worth noting!
It does indeed it has a wider arc than the standard swing
I might be wrong, but I have seen that these two can't be dual-wielded with curved swords that share the “normal” moveset
You also move further forward with each swing with gives the shamshir the highest effective range for all curved swords
That s why every body hates me when i use it Against My friends...... Didn t know that...... Now that i know My advantage i m gonna understand the wepon a bit more....
6:21 what incantation is that??
Elden Ring is one of the 1st games I've ever played that truly makes every weapon usable. If you like a weapon, any one at all, you can make it work. So many games throw 100 weapons at you with only 5 of them being worthwhile. Elden Ring you can play however you want to plauy.
In most games there is also very little difference between the weapon types or the are few types to begin with. In ER there are many different types and all function differently and have unique attacks which makes it very fun to try out new builds.
That's true in every souls game
Almost everyone recommends using Millicent's Prosthesis in any dex build focused on hitting the enemy in rapid succession, and I can see why. It's a powerful talisman that's practically perfect for that sort of build. But I just can't bring myself to betray Millicent. She's a friend and ally to my Tarnished, I'm not going to stab her in the back to increase my own power.
(Sidenote: I'm a total softie when it comes to any kind of moral decision in games. I'm pretty sure the "meanest" thing I ever did in Elden Ring was waiting to kill Gostoc until after I'd killed Godric as revenge for stealing my runes. Cut down the thief in his moment of unearned triumph and all that jazz.
His dying words honestly made me feel guilty. Had I killed a black-hearted thief? Yes. I also killed a man who was likely a mistreated servant at best and a slave at worst in less than a minute after he finally tasted freedom.
I don't feel too bad about killing him, but it sure as hell didn't feel good when I did it.)
You should have left him alive he's actually worth more alive if you do the rest of a different quest line at the very end you can meet up with him again and he's a merchant and he'll sell you an ancient dragon smithing Stone one of only 13 in the game. So killing him for petty revenge for a couple of runes that he probably needed to get food cuz they were abusing him and not feeding him properly you really missed out on a way bigger prize. Lol
Now you can forgive him because in the end of the kenneh haight and the barbaric girl quest mission you can buy him a focking ancient dragon stone.
So what do you use in millicent's prosthesis place? Because I'm close to doing her dirty like that but don't really want to...
You can get both talismans by just killing Millicent right before she dies of rot after helping her, so you didn't exactly betray her more like ended her suffering a bit early (it worked in patch 1.04 don't know if it's patched now )
That boy is a helluva merchant via side quest though, wonder who he stole that ancient dragon stone from🤔
Have you seen those warriors from Hammerfell? They have curved swords! CURVED.... SWORDS!
The shamshir is a good choise if you want to one hand with casting in your left because of it's slightly faster r1 moveset.
I had decided to farm 2 bandits curved swords, and got lucky enough to get two drops within my first about 15-20 kills. Sometimes fortune smiles upon us!
wish me luck im next brother
a couple things you forgot to mention:
there are two different movesets for scimitars. there seems to be a light and medium moveset for the R1s. the most readily accessible comparison is between the Scimitar and the Falchion, where the former is much more expressive and diagonal, and the latter is much more stiff and horizontal.
also, curved swords have a Feint attack. if you try to backstep while charging a heavy attack, you will quickly swing forward and cartwheel backwards. you can even press R1 after this for a backstep attack. i believe the animation differs slightly if it is a light or medium curved sword.
The two curved swords with the unique R1 moveset are the Scimitar and Shamshir. This unique moveset gives the combo a fluid motion and adds extra range to the two swords, making the Shamshir the longest-reaching curved sword.
actually, the shamshir cleary has a different maybe slightly faster r1 combo
So does the Scimitar.
Wing of Astel is also super powerful as you can get a plus ten version before altus plateau, without having to even visit gelmir for the stones as you find all levels of somber in the underground areas.
You can get 2 or 3 +10 somber weapons by that time. Also get one or two regular +25 weapons.
@@stompingpeak2043 I dount thats the case for regular weapons as you get most if not all ancient dragon smithing stones at ends of quests that need you to advance somewhere beyond altus.
@@stompingpeak2043 Quite sure the only dragon stone (somber or not) you can get early is the Somber through Mohgwyn pallace tho
@@chanderule605 yeah. I've done regular weapons where I just do the nepheli quest. Sprinting to morgot isn't too bad. You can get two stones in like an hour. But you don't have to get +25 for it to be good. You can definitely kill a few easy early bosses and upgrade anything is the point. Nobody needs a +25 or +10 weapon to kill rennala/Godfrey/morgot.
@Stomping Peak ...which is why it's so busted to have one... which is why the underground thing is really really good.
The magma blade is great but good luck getting it, probably the worst farm in the game
Magma blade is pretty bad. took me 4 hours spread over a few days. Now the Noble’s Slender sword has made me question if it’s just a meme and isn’t actually farmable
I had like 100 discovery with none of the items and stuff to help and it only took me 30 mins to get 2.
Definitely heard of people having horror stories though.
I had 80 discovery and got two within 10 minutes..
I had a harder time farming fairly common gear in DS3 compared the two magma blades. Normally I have just the absolute worst luck so I consider this a godsend lol
I had a dex/faith build and thought they had better dex scaling. Turns out they are strenght weapons instead 🤡
Personal favorite is the shamshir, but I have to shout out the beast man curved sword. The unique jumping attacks are insane especially when adding claw and raptors cloack. The damage for a single heavy r2 can destroy some mobs with low recovery time making for great potential.
On a 80 arcane build, an occult Scavenger has the highest AR and also highest bleed build up. On 80 dex build (and even 60/50 dex strength) a bleed infused Bandit's curved sword has 2nd highest AR and bleed. The bottomline is if you are going for pure bleed, scavenger and arcane is the most efficient way to go.
That’s…literally what he said in the video
Duh?
Have you seen those warriors from Hammerfell? They have curved swords! CURVED.... SWORDS!
I really hope they update the mantis blade moveset so more moves involve the full length of the weapon. It really gives me saw cleaver/beasthunter Saif vibes and it's a shame it's moveset is so limited
Definitely using the Scavenger's Curved Sword for a Bloodborne theme build.
I wish I could just yank off the head of the Vulgar Militia Saw to really get that Bloodborne esthetic but this will have to do-
Plus some beastial incantations on the Dragon Comun. Seal.
FromSoftware really had to just reskin the Demon's Scar from ds3 for the magma blade
Magma blade is one of my favorites I just hate the farm. I really want to use 2 of them but the drop rate is horrendous
Watching this in line with chasethebro's weapon showcase is what makes elden ring so much fun
I cant not use bloodhounds fang on every playthrough.
I love these videos, I learn so much and wind up trying out a ton of different weapons that I otherwise wouldn't know to use. I also end up watching sections over and over to get a better intuitive sense of the stats or play style. Keep them coming!
What armor torso are you wearing with the nox sword? The red and blue with chain mail
Shamshir has a unique R1 Moveset, it is not the same as the others.
You didn't mention the unique r1 chain of the shamshir or scimitar, it's much better than the regular r1s of curved swords
Beastmans curved sword is my favorite because it feels so nice when the spacing is just perfect to split my face open.
Lmao at 9:20 "Scimitar has default moveset", while literally showcasing its unique moveset only shared with the Shamshir
LOL, he said the same thing about Shamshir at 11:00. Youre making theese vids a bit lazily, Fextra
Other great talisman to use with curved swords is the godskin swaddling cloth, which regenerates your hp with successive attacks. It can be found in a cave at the freezing lake of the snow place
I really appreciate the time he puts into these videos.
small correction here, the shamshir/scimitar do NOT share the default moveset of most curved swords. They have different light AND heavy attack chains, unless power stanced with another curved sword
So sad that the best curved sword (bandit) dosent look as good as something like the falchion.
I started warrior and was planning to mix up my weapons but I fell so in love with the dual curved sword moveset I ended up using them through the whole game. Plus the serpent god sword looks sweet and was really helpful for clearing new areas with the lifesteal.
Thus is the first "****** is the best weapon type in elden ring" that I agree with
My favourite type of weapons. Thanks you) flowing curved sword r2 is amazing
I'm surprised you didn't notice that not all the curved swords have the same R1 chain.
For most the game, my favorite sword combo has been Wing of Astel with Cold Serpent God's Curved Sword using Carian Grandeur. It's a very good ash to have in certain situations, but not super often.
0:00 Intro
0:21 General pros and cons
2:34 Magma Blade
4:08 Nox Flowing Sword
5:39 Wing of Astel
7:18 Eclipse Shotel
9:14 Scimitar
10:15 Falchion
10:59 Shamshir
11:41 Grossmesser
12:26 Bandit's Curved Sword
13:28 Shotel
14:38 Scavenger's Curved Sword
15:36 Mantis Blade
16:33 Beastman's Curved Sword
17:39 Flowing Curved Sword
18:34 Serpent-God's Curved Sword
For my own reference:
Wing of Astel looks the most unique, powerful weapon with interesting stat spread and multiple options.
Occult Scavenger's + Occult/Blood Bandit's (into 2x Scavenger's after NG) looks like the go-to move for a bleed curved sword build. For other strategies besides bleed 2x Bandit's also looks good.
Shotel + shield would be an option for a build that aims for less equipment load. Mantis Blade + shield looks like a higher damage version of that playstyle.
Bro didn’t even notice that scimitar and Shamshir share a unique R1 moveset that’s probably my favorite moveset for curved swords.
Platinumed this months and months ago, hoping for dlc news soon
Straight swords next just for consistency :-)
Ds3 PvP players: “Yeah, we know…”
rocking the serpent god and a bandit
flame art with blood hound step
@Fextralife
The R1 chain of the Scimitar is NOT the same as other curved swords, hence their usefulness despite their lower damage stats.
Occult scavenger curved swords may have higher AR than blood bandit curved swords but they don’t apply as much bleeding. So technically it’s not “better” against enemies susceptible to bleed.
You can use seppuku on them though.
@@arin7776 You can use seppuku on blood affinity weapons too, to be even more…uh…bloody.
This video makes me so mad that I never tried the wing of Astel in my magic playthrough
If you cannot stand fighting Tree Spirits the Magma Blade's Ash of War absolutely DESTROYS them. The pool alone with decent stats takes chunks out of their hp and should you be able to hug up next to them it's lights out or light's up
@John Hooper yes? more fire?
Serpent god's sword is a great early game weapon. No matter what build you are trying to do, you can off-hand this sword while using anything else and still get the HP regen, so it works well with any build that hit-trades a bunch. Also it stacks with all of the hp stealing gear from volcano manor.
I’m a huge fan of the R2 on the flowing curved sword. Just looks so good
9:18 + 11:02 I think you "kinda" made a mistake there friend.
Most curved swords do share the same light attack moveset, however, the Scimitar and the Shamshir are the only curved swords with a "flowing" R1 combo.
In the beggining of the breakdown of these swords, you claim that they have the "default" moveset, when the default is actually the one that is most common across the whole weapon class, aka, the Falchion/Grossmesser/Bandit/etc.
This moveset being more "flowy" also adds "slightly" more reach to some attacks of the combo. This light attack moveset is yet another reason to wield these weapons.
I beat the game twice with dual scimitars. The damage difference is negligible. Fashion wins
You say "it requires some points in" every time and you also say to put your offenses to 50 every time. It's repetitive and most people aren't playing at that high of a level if they're doing PVP. NG+ playthroughs are sorta valid but there's not more content, just higher numbers on enemies
The shamshir just feels good for some reason
Something else I think was left out of this video was how the curved sword class on it's own has a unique type of attack not found in any other class aside from the thrusting sword and heavy thrusting sword classes, called a feint.
If you charge an R2, and then try to backstep, you will do a quick flip backwards while slashing at what may be in front of you. This is an excellent way to throw your opponent off guard in PVP, and puts distance between you and your enemy while still dealing damage. It counts as a full backstep, too, so if you're powerstancing curved swords, you can follow it up with a quick dash forward and get in even more hits.
With thrusting swords, the input is the same, but rather than a slash, you do a quick thrust while stepping back. This makes it easier to execute a thrust counter while again putting distance between you and your opponent.
You haven't done Curved Great swords yet, wanted to see what was recommended for one of them and was hoping to see if you guys had a video on it, I do enjoy listening to these cuz this video helped me chose between the scimitar and falchion as my starting weapon before wanting to get the flowing curved sword for the R2. (Plus I wanna look fancy af when fighting)
Don’t sleep on the fact that the strength requirements for a lot of the curved swords are really low. This makes them ideal for Astrologers that don’t want to waste any points at all in strength but do want a good melee option. Shamshir is great for this sort of approach and you naturally can pick up Wing of Astel later. If you’re mostly casting spells, those swords are all you ever need to still have an amazing dual wield melee fallback that weighs almost nothing.
Talk about scholar's armament
+280 magic dmg/hit
I don't understand why they put the Turkish Gaddare sword in the game as Grossmesser. The German Grossmesser is straight and has no reverse edge. There was Kilij in Demon Souls. I don't understand why almost all the curved swords in the later games are wrong and far from reality. It's like calling a katana as Tulwar.
Scimitar info seems wrong. From `Elden Ring Wiki` : "This weapon has a unique R1 chain shared with Shamshir, consisting of more graceful, flowing attacks. Functionally very similar to the normal curved sword moveset, yet faster and it does advance the user further."
Do you want to hold b and press right bumper for the entirety of the game? Congratulations you have fully mastered all curved swords have to offer.
Colossal swords bro pls
Am I dumb for just now noticing that the Flowing Curved Swords charged heavy is also the first 2 parts of Waterfowl Dance?
What about Morgott's Cursed Sword? It's classified as a curved greatsword but is not in either the curved sword, or the greatsword video.
Edit: The Magma Wyrm's Scalesword is also classified as a curved greatsword but also isn't in either of your videos for these weapon types. Will you be able to include them in a future video? Thanks for the great tutorials.
Why would he talk about a “curved great sword” in a great sword video
2:42 magma blade aow is a valid guard break counter against fingerprint shield
Loved the dodge-roll over pronunciation of "prosthesis"
How the heck does magma blade scale better with strength? That just doesn't make sense to me. I want my Faith Dex build!
Can you please do hammers/great hammers next
I’m trying to find a good strike weapon to use for an Ice knight playthrough
My freeze/strike weapon is the giant crusher. Also have the cestus/spiked for strike dmg as well. If areas have both I carry the cestus with another weapon so I can easily switch for only 2 extra weight. Don't underestimate the cestus/spiked cestus. They attack really fast, do great damage, stagger, and have status effects. The ultimate freeze weapon is deaths poker from the deathbird in caelid
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Thanks!
I’ve been trying out great stars and been having good success but since I’m in Atlus I’ll hunt down that hammer
@@jhknightmare5131 I mean there's soo many good builds. If you make it to the snow area get sepukku and use two curved swords with buffs. You'll do like 10kdmg in 3sec. Or ruins greatsword with weapon art spam. Or morgots. Or rivers, bloodhounds, etc. You should be fine for a first playthrough but it's definitely easier to use fast weapons until you get moment down imo
I'd rather they keep the designs simple though... like for the katanas
Anyone else here that like the Scimitar Curved Swords thought to make a Bleed Build with it for endgame because i dont Like the Looks from the other Curved swords really
Dual wielding 2 bandits curved sword with occult just melts everything
i dont dual wield anything cause its dumb lol its like call of duty akimbo. 100% of players use dual wield cause its broken 😂 the balance of this game is gross. but yes curved swords are op in almost every souls.
i made a mage in demon souls cause the graphics on the magic is amazing so i had to try it out. grabbed a scimitar put magic on it and have yet to this day to lose to an invader 😂 swings too fast. R1 spam too effective. by the time you think to parry your usually dead lol.
need to see colossal swords next
Waiting on the heavy thrusting straight sword. OP.
Shotel is pronounced SHOtel *not* shawTELL. Yeah, I guess I'm that guy. ;-)
Isn't there a Portal in Liurnia that basicly gives you the Opportunity to Farm Beastman early in the Game?
For the god serpent curved sword, your spirit ashes dying triggers the healing, so large group summons are a definite plus with that thing
Ughhh I wish more of these looked better. I prefer the powerstance moveset but none of them appeal to me aesthetically.
The magma blades are my favorite. They catch a lot of people off guard with the AoW
We needs these videos faster
Yes but... Does is "share the default moveset of most curved swords and deals physical damage"?
haven't watched yet but if its not magma blade #1 or tied with the scavengers curved sword i call bull xD
Why doesn’t anybody talk about feint attacks? They are the best for chaining combos and one of my favorite mechanics in the game
Took y’all this long to realize this? (After multiple souls games?!?!)
This guy voice put me to sleep 😅 I woke up like mid video
The one time when this series' title is not clickbait
Day 4 of asking for a deathblight build with Eclipse Shotel
Dual curved swords with endure is so brutal for PVE.
Been waiting for this video, great work! I'm using 2 x Bandits with lightning infusion this playthrough and I'm melting everything, great fun!
Some of us Rest in Peace since they seem to hate the dark souls 1 and 3 falchion moveset for no reason
At first I heard "here's why curse words are OP in elden ring" I chortle
Awesome coverage on these! It would be cool to see heavy thrusting weapons soon. Ik it’s a small group of weapons and there’s not much room for diversity but if there’s anyone who can find creative and effective ways to run them in PvE it’d be you I’m sure.
Yes!
I think veteran's prosthesis has bigger combo chain.
Grossmesser best curved sword because of it's real life counterpart.
Strange there is no sickle in the game. The eclipse counts but I mean a normal one.
Fextralife knows how to milk a franchise for almost 7 months.
The Beastman Curved Sword is the best, imo, because even with blood affinity, they scale with strength primarily. With my str at 80 and arcane at 60, it has 112 bleed buildup and still maintains most of its power. I tried catching a glimpse of my damage after the multi hit talismans kicked in, plus the white mask and bleed talisman, and it was up over 1k damage PER HAND. Combined with proccing blood loss with about 2 L1's, or strapping on the assassin talisman and raptor feathers I was destroying everything.
Best part is, you can switch to a big bonk weapon if you're against someone immune to bleed.
Eclipse Shotel is so Sexy! I Hate that its practically useless.
Guys btw the best in the game are the bandits curved swords trust me 😊