I do believe that Old Man Consequences is important to some degree. Especially when (you forgot to point out) he’s in Security Breach as the red lord who gives the princess the sword of light in PQ2. We know this because like how the princess was named Cassidy in the game files the red lord was called Old Man Consequences. Out of all the characters Scott would’ve chose to stick around from Fnaf World he chose OMC, so he definitely means something. My personal belief is that he’s just his own character, this supernatural being like a grim reaper except he has a different job. Sure his dialogue to Henry is similar but other than that he’s a red crocodilian in a red forest who likes fishing, none of that sounds like Henry or Mike. I also believe the Golden Freddy cutscene is actually telling the opposite of what you said. I believe that’s Cassidy refusing to move on from William and continue to torture him in UCN. If she was really putting her own soul to rest than having the Golden Freddy suit stop twitching and eyes go out would’ve made more sense but no, she’s still active while she’s fading away. And the music just feels to eerie and ominous. Another reason could be that we enter Old Man Consequences forest when he catches the fish. That fish could be Cassidy pulling him out of the lake that is UCN, and what do we see Cassidy do? Dive right back in. She doesn’t listen, keeps William alive to torture him. She was warned of the consequences and pays the price in Help Wanted to Security Breach, where Afton escaped and has done more harm to more people. This is why she returns as the princess to properly kill him, so she can properly rest and Afton won’t hurt anyone ever again.
Actually Afton isn’t in help wanted or security breach. Afton is still stuck in hell or Cassidy’s purgatory depending on what you believe. The main villain of this new saga of games is the mimic who was just copying Afton the whole time until the mimic 1 program or more commonly known as the glitchtrap virus was defeated. Now the mimic doesn’t remember how to copy Afton but that doesn’t make him any less of a threat as seen in ruin.
Mate, I don’t live under a rock. I know very well what the Mimic is, it’s lore and why people think it’s Glitchtrap and Burntrap. And I don’t buy it. Glitchtrap and Burntrap just being the Mimic makes no sense from and in-universe and narrative stand point. At this point it would make more sense if Glitchtrap was BOTH the Mimic and William. Glitchtrap says “I always come back” which is impossible for the Mimic to know unless William is involved. Burntrap high fives TV screens and doesn’t rip Gregory or the animatronics apart because William is involved. Nothing in Help Wanted has to do with the Afton family, so the Mimic can’t make the Staff bot recreation of it in the sewers unless William was involved. Mimic making Vanny exist just to continue Fazbear’s murderous legacy would ruin her character unless William was involved. If Cassidy still has the real William in UCN then why would she care about a dumb AI if it has nothing to do with her plans? She wouldn’t care unless William was involved. And before all of this we assumed Afton came back through agony, so to turn around and say Afton isn’t here at all just kicks the Fazbear Frights series’s balls. Even in the books we see the Mimic’s point of view and he’s just ripping apart people because it thinks that’s what it’s mean to do. It wants nothing to do with copying Afton and it doesn’t have any valid reason to. Sure we see the Mimic brutally mash a female in a costume which could explain Burntrap’s human remains, but that doesn’t make sense either since it’s all surgically added onto Burntrap while Mimic would just have messy human remains hanging from him. I’m not saying William’s still around though. Cassidy killed Glitchtrap, more specifically William’s side to it since PQ ending is canon and the OG Mimic is back to rip people apart again. TL;DR: Glitchtrap can’t be just Mimic or just William, he isn’t one or the other, he’s both.
@@justice8718 why would William calmly tell the child that has been torturing him to rest their own soul? That seems way out of character. And why would he talk in the third person?
If I had to say who he is, he is Saint Peter. He watches over the entrance to a place where you can finally rest. And if Golden Freddy created the UCN building is in limbo, then him falling into the easter egg is him being brought up to the Pearly gates.
Makes sense he’d be Henry. Henry is trying to get the souls in the animatronics to reach peace - which this last holdout isn’t doing because they want to torture William forever. As mentioned, Henry has reason to want to hang on as a spirit until they *all* pass on. Via the books-Security Breach mashup Henry was also almost certainly the creator of Monty and OMC is a gator. And the location of the Pizzeria Sim place where Henry let himself burn is also where ‘his’ workshop was, which is where an otherwise unseen before gator animatronic would be, and what his soul may be latched onto while he ferries the children.
I’d honestly like to think of old man consequences as some wandering spirit or possibly a guiding spirit who wants Cassidy to move on. I’ve never really though about him as Henry or Michael so this was first lol. The evidence is good but I feel like having old man consequences be it’s own entity is more soothing rather than having him be a representation of some other character in the already complicated story. I’ve always like his role/character because his dialogue lines are one of the few that provide a different outlook towards the overarching story; peace. Revenge is such a big thing in this story and having characters like old man consequences and maybe even mr hippo lmao is refreshing every once in a while. Like some comments mentioned there were some things about OMC that were left out of the video that could make OMC a more impactful and important character towards the story but in hindsight, if we step back and just look at old man consequences as the stand alone character he is, his dialogue/outlook is something many of us should try to implement in our own lives. Corny as it may sound, leaving the demons to their demons, moving on, that’s the best revenge we can have. Then again this is a game of killer animatronics so please don’t take my opinion on old man consequences as bible literature I beg you 😭
5:48 Given how twitchy Golden Freddy is, that might also signify that they're continuing their activity/torment endlessly, as they very clearly aren't resting.
I always thought old man consequences was just an interpretation of satan. He's in the deepest part of the code, like in Dante's inferno how the devil is in the lowest pit of hell (also the devil is in a lake in the book). His name also means that you would see him after you've done many wrong things (in this case Afton murdering). But since its obvious the children did nothing wrong he tells their spirits to leave Afton and move on. Plus, old man consequences could be the "devil" mentioned in Henry's speech AND the fact he's included in UCN when the game is supposed to be Afton's hell just makes me think he's meant to be this worlds devil. Holding Afton here. Idk i just don't feel like he's supposed to be a past character and is more of an entity outside of everything that we aren't supposed to understand.
I think OMC is neither Henry nor Michael Afton. It seems way more likely that OMC is an entirely different, likely way more abstract being than either of them. The Only two places we see Old Man Consequences are in the deepest layers of FNAF World, a representation of the spirit world, created by some unknown entity, and preparation for the Fnaf 3 Minigames, As well as in Ultimate Custom Night, which by The Man in Room 1280, has effectively been confirmed to be spiritual hell, without physical death. Since Old Man Consequences is way deeper than Fnaf World, and is Able to actively interfere with Hell, I think that OMC is actually a representation of Justice or Karma. We have Nightmarionne, a Representation of Nightmares and Vengeance; We have Shadow Bonnie, a Representation of Protection by all means, that seeks to stop increasing Agony (FNAF:AR Behavior/FNAF:World Moveset); We have Shadow Freddy, a mirror of Shadow Bonnie, that actively seeks to attack the same people. OMC here, is, I think, in the same vein, just without Agony. There is No Suffering in OMC. He is through which Judgement and Retribution are cast. Which is why he only appears immaterially and does not actually do anything.
I thought Old Man Consequences was just an otherworldly entity. We already have ghosts in this series, so something other than human isn't too far fetched
@@crimson5046 Thought that too. He just Exists, he’s just there as a guide to help the Vengeful spirit let go and rest. Same goes The Princess Quest in SB, it’s just it’s own entity. And When it says “Something’s not right.” It means There is something in the game that’s not supposed to be part of the arcade port.
I personally think he’s Henry Post FNAF 6. His spirit resting in a place where he feels peace. Far away from the Animatronics, the guilt he felt over the missing children and William, and I think he’s patiently waiting for his daughter to join him at the lake. Which is why he doesn’t seem too surprised to see another person enter wherever he resides. Because it’s still open while he patiently fishes and waits for his daughter’s soul to join his so that they both can fish in peace.
I think Old Man Consequences is supposed to be God, or whatever higher power exists in the FNAF universe. He only shows up in abstract ways, and wants to help people move on. He's always seemed more metaphorical to me, anyways.
5:49 or personal take it shows that she didnt buy OMC bs and will continue to torture afton till se cant anymore. And my golden freddy shaking it shows how much shes refusing to be set free, she wants to stay with her killer and make him suffer. if the others wont, she will.
Don’t think purgatory would work if William Afton was the one being endlessly tortured by the TOYSHK/Vengeful Spirit, since purgatory is like a eternal state for those who had regretted their wrongdoings and has to be punished before going into heaven unlike William Afton he never did regretted his actions. Meaning that William Afton would had been going to Hell.
i think it's henry's soul watching over pugatory and making sure william can't get out or hurt anyone else, cause he knew william's soul would still exist after burning him
@@capybaraandwatermelonenjoy8208 That’s a good idea/theory but I’m starting to doubt that it’s Henry and is just his own character cuz he first showed up in FW as an Easter egg.
@@capybaraandwatermelonenjoy8208yeahh, but no. Henry burned down the pizzeria to burn the remnants and free the souls, yet 3 of them didn't get to rest (William, Cassidy and Henry) obviously he can't just burn them down so he tries to convince Cassidy to rest her soul, it wouldn't make sense for him to keep William alive if he wanted him dead
the only reason william's soul is still alive tho is because cassidy wants to torture him, OMC wants to convince cassity to rest both for her sake and so william would die@@IDSMILED
i don't think he's henry OR Micheal. heres why: FNAF World most likely takes place after FNAF 3 (theres a few videos about this) and FNAF 3 takes place in 2023, while FNAF 6 takes place in 2025. so they both dont die for another 2 years, so it doesnt make sense.
Old man consequences might be a poltergeist of Cassidy’s desire to rest. They’re driven by anger and vehemently deny the puppets hand in trying to get them to rest. I think old man consequences is a manifestation of a hidden desire to let go, but Cassidy refuses to listen.
Considering Scott used to do Christian games and animation (see the Globgogabgalob) I always assumed that Old Man Consequences had some sort of Christian symbolism behind him
Personally, I get the sense that Old Man Consequences is not the soul of a human but instead FNAF’s version of The Devil, doing his job of punishing sinners in Hell. - Is one of if not the only character to speak of demons - Is in a place with a distinctly red hue, a color which pop culture loves to associate with Hell and The Devil - Is associated with angels (It’s impossible not to see him before getting the Drowned Ending in FNAF World, which displays an image resembling an angel) - Is associated with the torment of the dead (William’s distorted screams play in OMC’s realm) - “Catching fish” could be a metaphor for playing with souls, as Mr. Hippo compares himself to a fish wandering aimlessly until being eaten by a beast. OMC also needs to successfully “catch a fish” before you’re transported to him.
I like the idea that he's just his own entity that came into all of this mess because it has became too much of a mess. His minigame seems to interfere with everything in Ultimate Custom Night, it's a presence that interrupts everything just to give an advice to Cassidy. Cassidy ignores, a new duality is born, I think this is the right time to start a new fnaf lore era Cassidy and This entity as the 2 main opposing forces, and William, one of the worst people you could ever imagine, as the victim
I think old man consequence is more godly probably and yes I am thinking old man consequences is God you'll probably thinking I'm probably jumping the shark but spirits possessing robots inventing things that are so advanced it's practically revolutionary and fast
To be honest, i feel like cassidy isn't golden freddy in this game. Because back in the day when he murdered 5 kids, they put them in diffrents suits. But when the bite of 83 happend (and the crying child died after that), he was in the golden freddy suit. But in fazbear frights, when the puppet gave the cake to the kid, it feels like it could have been Cassidy. Because the 5 children have died because of william like i said and afterwards put their souls to rest. But in custom night, it make since that the crying child is making william's life misrible (like father like son heh,) and afterwards, old man consaquence told the crying child its time to rest and drowns in water. It make since that the crying child is golden freddy in my opinion. But still your videos great don't get me wrong.
I think that maybe he is the spirit or force that looks over the after life which is why he’s in ucn telling golden Freddy to let afton be left alone probably connecting to that theory or nightmarrione beign death and he’s some being who decides who goes to hell and can send death to kill people and for fnaf world code I’d say it’s just his powers to be there as maybe he’s guarding something
OMC is probably an entirely different supernatural being maybe a divine one like an angel or a god... Even in the name alludes to this as old man consequences as if he has been watching over everything and is far more wise than all the other characters...
"Seeing you powerless is like music to me." -Puppet, UCN. Yeah, the puppet definitely sounds like OMC. Definitely is trying to end the torture of Afton by convincing Cassidy to rest. Certainly isn't assisting in the purgatory trap and enjoying William being helpless to escape. /All the Sarcasm
OMC seems to have been around in the glitch world thing in fnaf world since setting up the clues for happiest day in fnaf 3, personally thats why i think hes probably some guy who died before fnaf 3 (maybe phone guy?), or some other NPC who went to far into the glitches although something weird about the location is it might be the same forest as in fnaf 4, and the same lake near the fnaf 4 house in curse of dread bear, where dread bear comes out of the lake, so OMC fishing there could imply he's an afton, but again it could just be he accidentally stumbled on it like we did
I always thought that Old Man Consequences was supposed to be Satin. I always thought this for several reasons: 1. His name: No matter how long you live on earth and what horrible acts you commit, old man consequences is going to get you in the end. That meaning that Satin will eventually get the sinners. 2. His Lines and Placement: His lines in FNAF world imply that you have gone down too far (as into hell) And his lines in UCN are basically telling Casidy to rest and let him take over punishing William Afton in real hell. 3. The sounds that are being played: Lines of William screeming for help imply that he is being tortured (in hell) and is begging to be saved (although he never will… Jk Thanks Vanessa.)
He’s not a who but a WHAT. He’s a metaphorical guide that takes one from the physical plane to the other side. And he’s trying to have the vengeful spirit cross over and leave the mortal world
IMO, I think it’s no one…not Henry…no one. It is important…but I think he’s just There… he’s just there as a guide for The Vengeful spirit. A Guide to help The Vengeful spirit let go and move on. I know this may sound dumb but it’s just a thought.
Id say Phone Guy he state that he'll "See you on the flipside" and the sub tunnels are also refured to as the Flipside Phone Guy is one of the only main characters that unacounted for in most intorpertations woth gives him a fitting end as he was retireing/quiting from Freddy's
I do wonder if Old Man Consequences is just... God. Or at least, whatever the closest thing to God could be in the FNaF universe. It's hardly a secret that Scott is pretty religious. He got his start making Christian games after all - so I do wonder if whatever the afterlife constitutes in FNaF is watched over by Old Man Consequences, fishing peacefully at his lake of damned souls. He's there if you go too deep, after all. If you go too many layers above, or below, the physical - and metaphysical - plane. Always there, quietly angling his rod. A "fisher of men" *is* what they called those "destined to bring men into the Church and to life eternal" in the Bible. So... Perhaps he sinks his hook into Hell, to fish for souls ready for redemption.
I believe that both Cassidy and the Crying Child were, prior to Happiest Day, possessing Golden Freddy. My evidence is that, despite what people say, there is nothing in any FNaF game that says the three Fredbear on the stage in FNaF 4 is a springlock suit. We don't see the number of fingers, no one calls it a springlock suit, and we see a copy of Fredbear and Spring Bonnie each that we KNOW are springlock suits in FNaF 4. Also, it wouldn't make sense as to why the springlocks would fail. The suit is in animatronic mode, and the springlocks shouldn't be wound up and, thus, shouldn't be physically able to be tripped. So, we can assume that Cassidy was stuffed into Fredbear/Golden Freddy AFTER the Bite of '83, which would explain why Afton is able to use the Fredbear suit in the Missing Children's Incident in Silver Eyes while still stuffing Michael into Golden Freddy. Sure, it's a different continuity, but why else would the Spring Bonnie suit still be in an abandoned Freddy's location? Afton first used the Fredbear springlock suit for the murders, which was taken into custody by police because he was caught on cameras wearing the suit and his fingerprints, as well as the children's, were on it, which got him arrested, but he could just say that he was just playing the part of Fredbear and had no idea who the kids were. Now, I bet you're asking about the fact that Afton is shown as loving his golden rabbit and why he wouldn't just use Spring Bonnie. Well, I think he intended to frame Henry, who, in the novels, was the one to wear the Fredbear springlock suit. 'But, in the Fazbear Frights story "Into the Pit, " Afton is wearing the Spring Bonnie suit, ' you're saying. Well, that's clearly a different timeline AND given that no one calls it the Missing Children Incident or anything similar, this could very well be a version of the kidnapping and murder of Novel!Charlotte, a version where Afton is caught in the act by a patron or employee, arressted, convicted, and sentenced, thus why no one talks about it, because the murderer was caught and justice was served. Though, of course, there are some strange things about that story that I can't explain, like Afton/Spring Bonnie in the story pretending to be Oswald's dad and why no one other than Oswald and his real dad can see Afton for what he is. It could be a beta version of the mind-control disks, or it could be something else that's truly bizarre.
what if its andrew, in some theories andrew is cassidy 's brother and old man consequences seems to be a alligator and andrew has an alligator mask. It could just be cassidy's brother greeting her and wanting to fish with her. Andrew is also in fazbear frights books as the stichwraith along with jake and hes also in the happiest day minigame if your curios or that birthday one, im not sure if the happiest day is the actual name but the one with the big cake
One thing about the animatronic biting down on crying child head is that the animatronic was in animatronic mod not suit mod so the spring locks are loose so there's no way that was the reason he die.
For me OMC is the angel of death itself, a small hint could be that the player walks into the water so that it can catch its soul with a fishing rod setting it free. And also OMC seems to hold no grudge against anyone yet its very aware of William's fate even though it is no judge. Finally this might be an even larger stretch but the ultimate consequence is death itself.
honestly idk i think your right but also still yk just a little off just because i think that he could definitely just be his own character evidence wise ig it does makes sense for it to be henry or micheal but it could also possibly be crying child depending on if they were both in contact and just friends of some sort idk could also be charlie since we know scott does like to use different genders before confirming things or just in general from what it actually is idk just a thought idk why it would be micheal tho in some ways i mean idk if it was confirmed that he was trying to do anything besides sister location so he probably wouldn't be in that case i think imo that yeah it makes more sense for it to be someone but micheal
When I first saw OMC I assumed it was just a random spirit but thinking more on it FNAF doesn't really do anything like that so I think it has to be someone of significance/someone we've already seen. I think Henry really fits the bill here, after his death in FNAF6 his soul is put to rest and his peace/afterlife is represented as him fishing on a lake peacefully, I think it suits him well that he would try to stop Cassidy seeking revenge and persuade them to move on as well. Henry could have personally destroyed William inside the scraptrap suit and tortured him himself but he chose to let the fire kill him alongside himself. This to me is the action of a peaceful individual, he wasn't seeking revenge on William, he just wanted to finally put an end to it all and let everyone move on.
How would the suit twitching mean the sprite has left it? That’s like saying this guy standing up is dead and this guy on the ground is alive, leave this stuff to Matt pat, I have VERY big doubt that old man consequences is a soul, I feel like he’s just an entity meant to guid souls or something.
I believe that Evan is the bear in the old man consequences scene. Old man consequences is Henry. I believe this, because Henry was always like a father to Evan, which makes the name old man consequences.
i personally think that omc is ment to be a representation of death (the grim reaper) like nightmare and nightmarionne for example nightmare/nightmarionne: represents something like the fear of death or the dark side of death or something similar to that old man consequences: represents the good side of death and try's to guide souls to the afterlife it might not be the best example of what I'm trying to say but I hope you guys understand my point I'm trying to make.
I think OMC is neither Henry or Michael,I think he is a spirit that watched everything that happened in all FNAF games. And when you enter his easter egg in UCN you play as Cassidy and OMC tells him to rest.
What’s confusing is there’s 5 missing kids, crying child, Henry’s daughter, Williams daughter… I count 8 dead kids oh then there’s 5 more missing kids but only 4 animatronics golden Freddy baby and the marionette… which child is in which animatronic?? So 13 dead kids and how many possessed animatronics???
Henry fits as OMC, but I'm on the side of the Freddy at the lake being the game's protagonist. And I believe that to be Michael - we certainly weren't playing as Cassidy before entering the OMC game (why would Cassidy's face appear to Cassidy? Why would Cassidy be tormented in the security office by the spirits they brought to torment William?) and I don't know why we'd suddenly switch to Cassidy in OMC's area (What's the game Protag doing then? Watching?). The Freddy sprite could easily be Michael as Michael is also tied to Golden Freddy by CC's death. Henry is telling Michael that he doesn't need to go searching for William - the demon - anymore. And to leave William - the demon - "to his demons" -- all the spirits haunting him with Cassidy. So then Michael leaves, but Cassidy and the others persist in tormenting William. Which is the meaning of twitching Golden Freddy suit continuing to twitch and shake. Cassidy didn't stop, the suit would rest if Cassidy was resting. Which we see happening as Michael's spirit leaves the Golden Freddy suit he'd entered in search of his Father - "I'm going to come find you". Basically, all of UCN is Michael's POV even the ending shot of the twitching suit. Why do the spirits attack Michael in UCN? They are like animals (except for Puppet and Cassidy) who see Michael as being William - "They thought I was you". While the Puppet knows it's not William but wants Michael to "Stay out of my way". And why is OMC there at all? Because Charlie, the Puppet - his daughter, also hasn't rested and he's waiting for her to come to the lake on her own someday. He had wanted her to rest at the end of FNAF 6, but she didn't. If OMC had been Michael and the Freddy was CC, why wouldn't OMC join CC in the pond once his brother is? So I'm pretty confident that OMC is Henry since he has a reason to encourage Michael to rest, but also to remain himself as he waits for Charlie.
There is a possibility of old man consequences being crying child (CC). I don't actually believe this, but I think it is a cool theory so hear me out. Fnaf world is all about broken code, you try to fix the broken code. Since this takes place soon after the bite of '83, this means that there is broken parts of CC's brain. You also play on a brain shaped map, and right before this, either William or Michael said that they would put CC back together. There is already a prominent theory that Henry communicates with Cassidy through games, so there is a possibility that you play as Cassidy in fnaf world. There is also a possibility of playing as Michael or William trying to get remanent into CC to bring him back. This means that when you travel deeper into the games code, you are traveling into the consciousness of CC. In this theory that I made up, old man consequences is essentially telling whoever you play as that they have already tried everything, and that there is nothing else to do, he just wants to rest his soul. The puppet then set his soul free in the happiest day minigame, but Cassidy pulled his soul into UCN since he still had remanent in the fredbear suit. In UCN he is telling Cassidy that they both need to let it go and rest. He was saying that he doesn't feel the same fire for revenge that Cassidy has, and that she is fighting an endless, pointless battle, that will lead to nothing but pain for both her and William (this is when he said "There is nothing else"). Again, I don't believe this theory and there are probably a bunch of potholes in it, but it is fun to think about.
Is there any connections between the crying child leaving his room and going to the forest in that minigame in which u are a yellow guy? maybe like old man consequences was someone who told william not to cross that path
I believe Michael is who you control in UCM and that his dad and himself are both experiencing their own hell. "Evan" Afton's happiest day was getting to bully, frighten, and punish him over and over again. His brother was the ONLY security guard throughout the series and it makes sense that his hell would be this. I believe Evan is TOYSHK. You meet OMC as Michael and he essentially tells you not to help your father screaming for you in the pit of hell and rest. Scott said that we got a few major things wrong in Sister Location and popular theories, I believe the William as the security guard was one of those wrong theories imo
I don't think the freddy sprite could be cassidy since she doesn't rest and keeps torturing William despite what OMC says. I think it would work better as Michael since he devoted most of his life to reverting what his dad had done and with him actually dead this time he can rest, which he does. This also means William screaming for Mike or Henry lines up with the 2 characters on screen at the time.
But that wouldn’t make sense since why would Mike be represented with a Freddy sprite when in terms of his character he has zero correlation to Freddy while Cassidy does? Also old man consequences specifically tells the Feddy sprite to leave the demon to his demons and to rest their own soul which clearly implies that he is talking to Cassidy who refuses to rest and won’t leave Afton to his demons.
@@superadambomb5834I still feel like it works. He's been in close proximity to Cassidy for a long time, even if they don't know eachother on a more personal level, he would still want her to rest, as she was still a victim of his father's wrongdoings. The sprite would line up too with how Michael was portrayed in fnaf 4 with the red foxy mask.
@Otacanthus I believe he's screaming for Michael and Henry to help him and OMC is telling him to leave him to his consequences and rest. Michael is the security guard in this game.. his dad is in another hell altogether. I believe the one you shouldn't have killed is Evan Afton. The cassidy theory is wrong, I'm positive. It's the most popular theory and Scott said there were a couple of major things the community got wrong. I am sure this was one. The happiest day was about Evan finally getting his 🎂 🥳 and getting to punish Michael and the other kids getting to punish his dad. Don't forget the magnitude of what he did.. his brother was slowly crushed to death painfully and bullied horrendously and cruelly until that moment. Michael deserved the same punishment as William imo Evan deserved to get his revenge too
@@incelreactions woah woah hold on a second. Michael does not at all deserve the same punishment as William. First off he didn’t expect the bite to kill Evan. Now sure it was a sick prank but there was no murder intended. Michael also did his best to make up for his past and help free the spirits including his brother. William on the other hand had full intentions of murder and never once tried to make up for his horrific actions. And also Evan being the “one you should not have killed” goes against the whole point of fnaf 3. The whole point of that games story was the spirits learning to move on and so did Evan. Cassidy is the only one who refuses to let go. And even the lines from other characters seem to highly indicate that we play as William. It makes so much more sense then punishing the main character for one bad action that he’s already tried his best to make up for. Also the whole purpose of the line “I have a feeling that’s not what you want. I have a feeling you are right where you want to be” is ruined by this theory because Michael doesn’t even get to rest with his family like he wanted to after years and years of anger, sadness, and grief. Pizza sim was his moment to finally rest after years of making up for his past while William is the one who is punished for his sins.
@@Annoyance. judging by some of the voicelines cassididy either made copies of or took every animatronics soul and put it there, cassidy could have cloned or taken them there
Cassidy hasn't been laid to rest as Cassidy is all but confirmed to be the Princess in Princess Quest and her and William's spirit are linked as seen in the Frights books.
Mike being omc doesn't make sense, also Mike is likely alive so being OMC ain't very possible. And how does he even end up in UCN when it's in Williams mind?
@@Annoyance. There is a *possibility* Mike is alive, it isn't very likely, the whole hipothesis is based on one line, altho it's FNaF, I wouldn't be surprised. And also Mike is William's son, if Golden Freddy wanted to, Mike would be there. And I said it could be, it's a possibility like any other, I just thought it was important to mention this since in the video it's treated like Golden Freddy needs to be either CC or Cassidy, when there's evidence to point that maybe it's both.
I believe that ultimate custom night is controlled by Evan because he’s getting revenge on his father because the machine his dad created is the reason he’s dead the machine his dad created is the reason his sister is dead. His dad‘s creation is the reason his big brother is dead, Evan won’t let his father rest
Literally ucn and fazbear frights confirmed Andrew is one keep William alive and he William victim number 7 who get mentioned toy chica high school year
@MaskedManMPG Andrew canon same way mimic canon The man in room 1280 literally answer what happened to William after fnaf 6 Burntrap is never William 😂
I always figured Old Man Consequences was a representation of God, that's how he can transend dimentions and why he tries to help lost souls find peace.
So Elizabeth afton wouldn't be in control of Circus Baby, because william didn't kill her, circus baby did, so your affirmation is fake, the crying child can be in control of golden freddy
All the dudes in here commenting like she is fat or ugly are a bit too heavy on Kai’s lap. Sound like when a guy tries to get a girl and gets rejected then he call her ugly and fat. Doing that for somebody else is just crazy Family. Fr fr
Literally non of what you said proves Cassidy's the vengeful spirit, for starters the vengeful spirit can't be golden freddy since because of toy chica's high school years were hinted at the vengeful spirit being a secret victim snd Cassidy is not a secret victim, also what do you mean crying child has no reason to be angry at his father m, William tortured crying child with nightmare hallucinations
William screaming in old man consequences was voiced by Scott screaming into a fan😂
I like how most of Scott's earlier voice acting was just him.
Imagine if Old Man Consequences was William Afton's father or grandfather
It's was "what if"
Why
@@sunnecas I Don't Know
seeing his son burning in hell is a sight to see
@@YOUR_MOM_420or maybe it's just an image of aftons father since UCN is in Williams head
I do believe that Old Man Consequences is important to some degree. Especially when (you forgot to point out) he’s in Security Breach as the red lord who gives the princess the sword of light in PQ2. We know this because like how the princess was named Cassidy in the game files the red lord was called Old Man Consequences. Out of all the characters Scott would’ve chose to stick around from Fnaf World he chose OMC, so he definitely means something.
My personal belief is that he’s just his own character, this supernatural being like a grim reaper except he has a different job. Sure his dialogue to Henry is similar but other than that he’s a red crocodilian in a red forest who likes fishing, none of that sounds like Henry or Mike.
I also believe the Golden Freddy cutscene is actually telling the opposite of what you said. I believe that’s Cassidy refusing to move on from William and continue to torture him in UCN. If she was really putting her own soul to rest than having the Golden Freddy suit stop twitching and eyes go out would’ve made more sense but no, she’s still active while she’s fading away. And the music just feels to eerie and ominous.
Another reason could be that we enter Old Man Consequences forest when he catches the fish. That fish could be Cassidy pulling him out of the lake that is UCN, and what do we see Cassidy do? Dive right back in.
She doesn’t listen, keeps William alive to torture him. She was warned of the consequences and pays the price in Help Wanted to Security Breach, where Afton escaped and has done more harm to more people. This is why she returns as the princess to properly kill him, so she can properly rest and Afton won’t hurt anyone ever again.
Actually Afton isn’t in help wanted or security breach. Afton is still stuck in hell or Cassidy’s purgatory depending on what you believe. The main villain of this new saga of games is the mimic who was just copying Afton the whole time until the mimic 1 program or more commonly known as the glitchtrap virus was defeated. Now the mimic doesn’t remember how to copy Afton but that doesn’t make him any less of a threat as seen in ruin.
Mate, I don’t live under a rock. I know very well what the Mimic is, it’s lore and why people think it’s Glitchtrap and Burntrap. And I don’t buy it.
Glitchtrap and Burntrap just being the Mimic makes no sense from and in-universe and narrative stand point. At this point it would make more sense if Glitchtrap was BOTH the Mimic and William. Glitchtrap says “I always come back” which is impossible for the Mimic to know unless William is involved.
Burntrap high fives TV screens and doesn’t rip Gregory or the animatronics apart because William is involved.
Nothing in Help Wanted has to do with the Afton family, so the Mimic can’t make the Staff bot recreation of it in the sewers unless William was involved.
Mimic making Vanny exist just to continue Fazbear’s murderous legacy would ruin her character unless William was involved.
If Cassidy still has the real William in UCN then why would she care about a dumb AI if it has nothing to do with her plans? She wouldn’t care unless William was involved.
And before all of this we assumed Afton came back through agony, so to turn around and say Afton isn’t here at all just kicks the Fazbear Frights series’s balls.
Even in the books we see the Mimic’s point of view and he’s just ripping apart people because it thinks that’s what it’s mean to do. It wants nothing to do with copying Afton and it doesn’t have any valid reason to. Sure we see the Mimic brutally mash a female in a costume which could explain Burntrap’s human remains, but that doesn’t make sense either since it’s all surgically added onto Burntrap while Mimic would just have messy human remains hanging from him.
I’m not saying William’s still around though. Cassidy killed Glitchtrap, more specifically William’s side to it since PQ ending is canon and the OG Mimic is back to rip people apart again.
TL;DR: Glitchtrap can’t be just Mimic or just William, he isn’t one or the other, he’s both.
OMC is literally William Afton. Bill in "Step Closer" often does fishing trips.
@@justice8718 why would William calmly tell the child that has been torturing him to rest their own soul? That seems way out of character. And why would he talk in the third person?
@@superadambomb5834 Except Cassidy is clearly not a "he".
Imagine if old man consequences was just William gaslighting golden freddy into releasing him
That's a very William thing to do and a good What if.
The most William thing to do
If I had to say who he is, he is Saint Peter.
He watches over the entrance to a place where you can finally rest.
And if Golden Freddy created the UCN building is in limbo, then him falling into the easter egg is him being brought up to the Pearly gates.
Makes sense he’d be Henry. Henry is trying to get the souls in the animatronics to reach peace - which this last holdout isn’t doing because they want to torture William forever. As mentioned, Henry has reason to want to hang on as a spirit until they *all* pass on. Via the books-Security Breach mashup Henry was also almost certainly the creator of Monty and OMC is a gator. And the location of the Pizzeria Sim place where Henry let himself burn is also where ‘his’ workshop was, which is where an otherwise unseen before gator animatronic would be, and what his soul may be latched onto while he ferries the children.
I swear bro if when fnaf ends scott doesnt come one with a 500 page theisis paper explaing the entire lore we riot💀
Old Man Consequences was also in Princess Quest 2, as the one who gives the Princess (Cassidy) the sword
I’d honestly like to think of old man consequences as some wandering spirit or possibly a guiding spirit who wants Cassidy to move on. I’ve never really though about him as Henry or Michael so this was first lol. The evidence is good but I feel like having old man consequences be it’s own entity is more soothing rather than having him be a representation of some other character in the already complicated story. I’ve always like his role/character because his dialogue lines are one of the few that provide a different outlook towards the overarching story; peace. Revenge is such a big thing in this story and having characters like old man consequences and maybe even mr hippo lmao is refreshing every once in a while. Like some comments mentioned there were some things about OMC that were left out of the video that could make OMC a more impactful and important character towards the story but in hindsight, if we step back and just look at old man consequences as the stand alone character he is, his dialogue/outlook is something many of us should try to implement in our own lives. Corny as it may sound, leaving the demons to their demons, moving on, that’s the best revenge we can have.
Then again this is a game of killer animatronics so please don’t take my opinion on old man consequences as bible literature I beg you 😭
5:48 Given how twitchy Golden Freddy is, that might also signify that they're continuing their activity/torment endlessly, as they very clearly aren't resting.
I always thought old man consequences was just an interpretation of satan. He's in the deepest part of the code, like in Dante's inferno how the devil is in the lowest pit of hell (also the devil is in a lake in the book). His name also means that you would see him after you've done many wrong things (in this case Afton murdering). But since its obvious the children did nothing wrong he tells their spirits to leave Afton and move on. Plus, old man consequences could be the "devil" mentioned in Henry's speech AND the fact he's included in UCN when the game is supposed to be Afton's hell just makes me think he's meant to be this worlds devil. Holding Afton here. Idk i just don't feel like he's supposed to be a past character and is more of an entity outside of everything that we aren't supposed to understand.
I think OMC is neither Henry nor Michael Afton. It seems way more likely that OMC is an entirely different, likely way more abstract being than either of them.
The Only two places we see Old Man Consequences are in the deepest layers of FNAF World, a representation of the spirit world, created by some unknown entity, and preparation for the Fnaf 3 Minigames, As well as in Ultimate Custom Night, which by The Man in Room 1280, has effectively been confirmed to be spiritual hell, without physical death.
Since Old Man Consequences is way deeper than Fnaf World, and is Able to actively interfere with Hell, I think that OMC is actually a representation of Justice or Karma.
We have Nightmarionne, a Representation of Nightmares and Vengeance;
We have Shadow Bonnie, a Representation of Protection by all means, that seeks to stop increasing Agony (FNAF:AR Behavior/FNAF:World Moveset);
We have Shadow Freddy, a mirror of Shadow Bonnie, that actively seeks to attack the same people.
OMC here, is, I think, in the same vein, just without Agony. There is No Suffering in OMC. He is through which Judgement and Retribution are cast. Which is why he only appears immaterially and does not actually do anything.
I thought Old Man Consequences was just an otherworldly entity. We already have ghosts in this series, so something other than human isn't too far fetched
Yes! And it would honestly be so much better to just have him as his own character/entity.
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Thought that too. He just Exists, he’s just there as a guide to help the Vengeful spirit let go and rest.
Same goes The Princess Quest in SB, it’s just it’s own entity. And When it says “Something’s not right.” It means There is something in the game that’s not supposed to be part of the arcade port.
I personally think he’s Henry Post FNAF 6. His spirit resting in a place where he feels peace. Far away from the Animatronics, the guilt he felt over the missing children and William, and I think he’s patiently waiting for his daughter to join him at the lake. Which is why he doesn’t seem too surprised to see another person enter wherever he resides. Because it’s still open while he patiently fishes and waits for his daughter’s soul to join his so that they both can fish in peace.
Old mans consequences head looks like the foxy mask that michael afton's wears in fnaf 4
Yep so hes michael
I think Old Man Consequences is supposed to be God, or whatever higher power exists in the FNAF universe. He only shows up in abstract ways, and wants to help people move on.
He's always seemed more metaphorical to me, anyways.
5:49 or personal take it shows that she didnt buy OMC bs and will continue to torture afton till se cant anymore. And my golden freddy shaking it shows how much shes refusing to be set free, she wants to stay with her killer and make him suffer. if the others wont, she will.
I like to think old man consequences is God. Trying to let Cassidy finally rest.
I think that OMC is either the Gatekeeper at purgatory or the representation of him,or Henry
Emily in what Cassidy interprets of him
Don’t think purgatory would work if William Afton was the one being endlessly tortured by the TOYSHK/Vengeful Spirit, since purgatory is like a eternal state for those who had regretted their wrongdoings and has to be punished before going into heaven unlike William Afton he never did regretted his actions. Meaning that William Afton would had been going to Hell.
I think Old Man is either Henry or his own character.
i think it's henry's soul watching over pugatory and making sure william can't get out or hurt anyone else, cause he knew william's soul would still exist after burning him
@@capybaraandwatermelonenjoy8208 That’s a good idea/theory but I’m starting to doubt that it’s Henry and is just his own character cuz he first showed up in FW as an Easter egg.
@@capybaraandwatermelonenjoy8208yeahh, but no. Henry burned down the pizzeria to burn the remnants and free the souls, yet 3 of them didn't get to rest (William, Cassidy and Henry) obviously he can't just burn them down so he tries to convince Cassidy to rest her soul, it wouldn't make sense for him to keep William alive if he wanted him dead
the only reason william's soul is still alive tho is because cassidy wants to torture him, OMC wants to convince cassity to rest both for her sake and so william would die@@IDSMILED
i don't think he's henry OR Micheal. heres why: FNAF World most likely takes place after FNAF 3 (theres a few videos about this) and FNAF 3 takes place in 2023, while FNAF 6 takes place in 2025. so they both dont die for another 2 years, so it doesnt make sense.
Henry here, can confirm I am indeed OMC
Old man consequences might be a poltergeist of Cassidy’s desire to rest. They’re driven by anger and vehemently deny the puppets hand in trying to get them to rest. I think old man consequences is a manifestation of a hidden desire to let go, but Cassidy refuses to listen.
Considering Scott used to do Christian games and animation (see the Globgogabgalob) I always assumed that Old Man Consequences had some sort of Christian symbolism behind him
i assumed OMC was representative of God honestly, telling cassidy to move on and leave william to suffer in hell
HE MADE GLOBGOGABGALOB?????????????
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Mind. Blown!@@zold9896
This had so much information, old man consequences is really full of mystery.
Personally, I get the sense that Old Man Consequences is not the soul of a human but instead FNAF’s version of The Devil, doing his job of punishing sinners in Hell.
- Is one of if not the only character to speak of demons
- Is in a place with a distinctly red hue, a color which pop culture loves to associate with Hell and The Devil
- Is associated with angels (It’s impossible not to see him before getting the Drowned Ending in FNAF World, which displays an image resembling an angel)
- Is associated with the torment of the dead (William’s distorted screams play in OMC’s realm)
- “Catching fish” could be a metaphor for playing with souls, as Mr. Hippo compares himself to a fish wandering aimlessly until being eaten by a beast. OMC also needs to successfully “catch a fish” before you’re transported to him.
It makes a lot more sense now, successfully catch a fish, as in successfully catch a soul or a sinner to trap them in the afterlife somewhere
I like the idea that he's just his own entity that came into all of this mess because it has became too much of a mess. His minigame seems to interfere with everything in Ultimate Custom Night, it's a presence that interrupts everything just to give an advice to Cassidy. Cassidy ignores, a new duality is born, I think this is the right time to start a new fnaf lore era
Cassidy and This entity as the 2 main opposing forces, and William, one of the worst people you could ever imagine, as the victim
I think old man consequence is more godly probably and yes I am thinking old man consequences is God you'll probably thinking I'm probably jumping the shark but spirits possessing robots inventing things that are so advanced it's practically revolutionary and fast
Agree I think its cassidy and god and hes just telling him/her(idk who cassidy is as boy or girl) to rest her soul
I think old man consequences is the crying child
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@@Tottosmile agreed
*_OLD MAN_* Consequences.
Crying *_CHILD_*
Something feels a tiny bit off, Can't put my finger on it.
To be honest, i feel like cassidy isn't golden freddy in this game. Because back in the day when he murdered 5 kids, they put them in diffrents suits. But when the bite of 83 happend (and the crying child died after that), he was in the golden freddy suit. But in fazbear frights, when the puppet gave the cake to the kid, it feels like it could have been Cassidy. Because the 5 children have died because of william like i said and afterwards put their souls to rest. But in custom night, it make since that the crying child is making william's life misrible (like father like son heh,) and afterwards, old man consaquence told the crying child its time to rest and drowns in water. It make since that the crying child is golden freddy in my opinion. But still your videos great don't get me wrong.
I think he's a hell companion.
7:11 “MICHAEL!! DON’T LEAVE ME HERE!!” (Cough cough) “Michael! MICHAEL!!! HELP MEEEEEEEEE!!!!”
I think that maybe he is the spirit or force that looks over the after life which is why he’s in ucn telling golden Freddy to let afton be left alone probably connecting to that theory or nightmarrione beign death and he’s some being who decides who goes to hell and can send death to kill people and for fnaf world code I’d say it’s just his powers to be there as maybe he’s guarding something
I think omc is kinda underrated
He is
Leave the demon to his demons is one of my favorite FNAF quotes!
OMC is probably an entirely different supernatural being maybe a divine one like an angel or a god...
Even in the name alludes to this as old man consequences as if he has been watching over everything and is far more wise than all the other characters...
He is actually the puppet. Its well documented. Look it up
"Seeing you powerless is like music to me." -Puppet, UCN.
Yeah, the puppet definitely sounds like OMC. Definitely is trying to end the torture of Afton by convincing Cassidy to rest. Certainly isn't assisting in the purgatory trap and enjoying William being helpless to escape. /All the Sarcasm
OMC seems to have been around in the glitch world thing in fnaf world since setting up the clues for happiest day in fnaf 3, personally thats why i think hes probably some guy who died before fnaf 3 (maybe phone guy?), or some other NPC who went to far into the glitches
although something weird about the location is it might be the same forest as in fnaf 4, and the same lake near the fnaf 4 house in curse of dread bear, where dread bear comes out of the lake, so OMC fishing there could imply he's an afton, but again it could just be he accidentally stumbled on it like we did
I think Old man consequences is Cassidy's conscious, finally telling her to rest and that she should leave the demon to his demons
I always thought that Old Man Consequences was supposed to be Satin.
I always thought this for several reasons:
1. His name: No matter how long you live on earth and what horrible acts you commit, old man consequences is going to get you in the end. That meaning that Satin will eventually get the sinners.
2. His Lines and Placement: His lines in FNAF world imply that you have gone down too far (as into hell)
And his lines in UCN are basically telling Casidy to rest and let him take over punishing William Afton in real hell.
3. The sounds that are being played: Lines of William screeming for help imply that he is being tortured (in hell) and is begging to be saved (although he never will… Jk Thanks Vanessa.)
I believe he is a god of some sort.
He’s not a who but a WHAT. He’s a metaphorical guide that takes one from the physical plane to the other side. And he’s trying to have the vengeful spirit cross over and leave the mortal world
its willom afton
IMO, I think it’s no one…not Henry…no one. It is important…but I think he’s just There… he’s just there as a guide for The Vengeful spirit. A Guide to help The Vengeful spirit let go and move on. I know this may sound dumb but it’s just a thought.
Id say Phone Guy he state that he'll "See you on the flipside" and the sub tunnels are also refured to as the Flipside Phone Guy is one of the only main characters that unacounted for in most intorpertations woth gives him a fitting end as he was retireing/quiting from Freddy's
I do wonder if Old Man Consequences is just... God. Or at least, whatever the closest thing to God could be in the FNaF universe.
It's hardly a secret that Scott is pretty religious. He got his start making Christian games after all - so I do wonder if whatever the afterlife constitutes in FNaF is watched over by Old Man Consequences, fishing peacefully at his lake of damned souls.
He's there if you go too deep, after all. If you go too many layers above, or below, the physical - and metaphysical - plane. Always there, quietly angling his rod.
A "fisher of men" *is* what they called those "destined to bring men into the Church and to life eternal" in the Bible. So... Perhaps he sinks his hook into Hell, to fish for souls ready for redemption.
Old man consequences is the embodiment of jesus
I believe that both Cassidy and the Crying Child were, prior to Happiest Day, possessing Golden Freddy. My evidence is that, despite what people say, there is nothing in any FNaF game that says the three Fredbear on the stage in FNaF 4 is a springlock suit. We don't see the number of fingers, no one calls it a springlock suit, and we see a copy of Fredbear and Spring Bonnie each that we KNOW are springlock suits in FNaF 4. Also, it wouldn't make sense as to why the springlocks would fail. The suit is in animatronic mode, and the springlocks shouldn't be wound up and, thus, shouldn't be physically able to be tripped. So, we can assume that Cassidy was stuffed into Fredbear/Golden Freddy AFTER the Bite of '83, which would explain why Afton is able to use the Fredbear suit in the Missing Children's Incident in Silver Eyes while still stuffing Michael into Golden Freddy. Sure, it's a different continuity, but why else would the Spring Bonnie suit still be in an abandoned Freddy's location? Afton first used the Fredbear springlock suit for the murders, which was taken into custody by police because he was caught on cameras wearing the suit and his fingerprints, as well as the children's, were on it, which got him arrested, but he could just say that he was just playing the part of Fredbear and had no idea who the kids were. Now, I bet you're asking about the fact that Afton is shown as loving his golden rabbit and why he wouldn't just use Spring Bonnie. Well, I think he intended to frame Henry, who, in the novels, was the one to wear the Fredbear springlock suit. 'But, in the Fazbear Frights story "Into the Pit, " Afton is wearing the Spring Bonnie suit, ' you're saying. Well, that's clearly a different timeline AND given that no one calls it the Missing Children Incident or anything similar, this could very well be a version of the kidnapping and murder of Novel!Charlotte, a version where Afton is caught in the act by a patron or employee, arressted, convicted, and sentenced, thus why no one talks about it, because the murderer was caught and justice was served. Though, of course, there are some strange things about that story that I can't explain, like Afton/Spring Bonnie in the story pretending to be Oswald's dad and why no one other than Oswald and his real dad can see Afton for what he is. It could be a beta version of the mind-control disks, or it could be something else that's truly bizarre.
Actually its because the crying child can't recognize that springbonnie and William are the same person,so he think his father is in ball pit
what if its andrew, in some theories andrew is cassidy 's brother and old man consequences seems to be a alligator and andrew has an alligator mask. It could just be cassidy's brother greeting her and wanting to fish with her. Andrew is also in fazbear frights books as the stichwraith along with jake and hes also in the happiest day minigame if your curios or that birthday one, im not sure if the happiest day is the actual name but the one with the big cake
When i first saw old man consequences when i was little i thought he was a crocodile and nothing else
One thing about the animatronic biting down on crying child head is that the animatronic was in animatronic mod not suit mod so the spring locks are loose so there's no way that was the reason he die.
Finally a smart person
For me OMC is the angel of death itself, a small hint could be that the player walks into the water so that it can catch its soul with a fishing rod setting it free.
And also OMC seems to hold no grudge against anyone yet its very aware of William's fate even though it is no judge.
Finally this might be an even larger stretch but the ultimate consequence is death itself.
honestly idk i think your right but also still yk just a little off just because i think that he could definitely just be his own character evidence wise ig it does makes sense for it to be henry or micheal but it could also possibly be crying child depending on if they were both in contact and just friends of some sort idk could also be charlie since we know scott does like to use different genders before confirming things or just in general from what it actually is idk just a thought idk why it would be micheal tho in some ways i mean idk if it was confirmed that he was trying to do anything besides sister location so he probably wouldn't be in that case i think imo that yeah it makes more sense for it to be someone but micheal
old man consequences appeared in sb and help wanted 2 in princess Quest mini game
also the princess it's Cassidy
When I first saw OMC I assumed it was just a random spirit but thinking more on it FNAF doesn't really do anything like that so I think it has to be someone of significance/someone we've already seen. I think Henry really fits the bill here, after his death in FNAF6 his soul is put to rest and his peace/afterlife is represented as him fishing on a lake peacefully, I think it suits him well that he would try to stop Cassidy seeking revenge and persuade them to move on as well. Henry could have personally destroyed William inside the scraptrap suit and tortured him himself but he chose to let the fire kill him alongside himself. This to me is the action of a peaceful individual, he wasn't seeking revenge on William, he just wanted to finally put an end to it all and let everyone move on.
How would the suit twitching mean the sprite has left it? That’s like saying this guy standing up is dead and this guy on the ground is alive, leave this stuff to Matt pat, I have VERY big doubt that old man consequences is a soul, I feel like he’s just an entity meant to guid souls or something.
I believe that Evan is the bear in the old man consequences scene. Old man consequences is Henry. I believe this, because Henry was always like a father to Evan, which makes the name old man consequences.
Old man consequences is monty gator
Ive always thought that old man consequences is death himself
I think that OMC is the concept of destiny and death
But old man consequences say Henry Mike help me so that’s proof that it’s not them
Da devil from da Bible, I'm assuming
Actually, Maybe God, Cuz Satan wouldn't try to help cassidy.
i personally think that omc is ment to be a representation of death (the grim reaper) like nightmare and nightmarionne for example
nightmare/nightmarionne: represents something like the fear of death or the dark side of death or something similar to that
old man consequences: represents the good side of death and try's to guide souls to the afterlife
it might not be the best example of what I'm trying to say but I hope you guys understand my point I'm trying to make.
2:22 it’s in animatronic mode not suit mode unless you’re saying Henry is wearing the suit and it did a spring lock failure
I think OMC is neither Henry or Michael,I think he is a spirit that watched everything that happened in all FNAF games. And when you enter his easter egg in UCN you play as Cassidy and OMC tells him to rest.
What’s confusing is there’s 5 missing kids, crying child, Henry’s daughter, Williams daughter… I count 8 dead kids oh then there’s 5 more missing kids but only 4 animatronics golden Freddy baby and the marionette… which child is in which animatronic?? So 13 dead kids and how many possessed animatronics???
Henry fits as OMC, but I'm on the side of the Freddy at the lake being the game's protagonist. And I believe that to be Michael - we certainly weren't playing as Cassidy before entering the OMC game (why would Cassidy's face appear to Cassidy? Why would Cassidy be tormented in the security office by the spirits they brought to torment William?) and I don't know why we'd suddenly switch to Cassidy in OMC's area (What's the game Protag doing then? Watching?).
The Freddy sprite could easily be Michael as Michael is also tied to Golden Freddy by CC's death. Henry is telling Michael that he doesn't need to go searching for William - the demon - anymore. And to leave William - the demon - "to his demons" -- all the spirits haunting him with Cassidy. So then Michael leaves, but Cassidy and the others persist in tormenting William. Which is the meaning of twitching Golden Freddy suit continuing to twitch and shake. Cassidy didn't stop, the suit would rest if Cassidy was resting.
Which we see happening as Michael's spirit leaves the Golden Freddy suit he'd entered in search of his Father - "I'm going to come find you". Basically, all of UCN is Michael's POV even the ending shot of the twitching suit.
Why do the spirits attack Michael in UCN? They are like animals (except for Puppet and Cassidy) who see Michael as being William - "They thought I was you". While the Puppet knows it's not William but wants Michael to "Stay out of my way".
And why is OMC there at all? Because Charlie, the Puppet - his daughter, also hasn't rested and he's waiting for her to come to the lake on her own someday. He had wanted her to rest at the end of FNAF 6, but she didn't.
If OMC had been Michael and the Freddy was CC, why wouldn't OMC join CC in the pond once his brother is? So I'm pretty confident that OMC is Henry since he has a reason to encourage Michael to rest, but also to remain himself as he waits for Charlie.
There is a possibility of old man consequences being crying child (CC). I don't actually believe this, but I think it is a cool theory so hear me out. Fnaf world is all about broken code, you try to fix the broken code. Since this takes place soon after the bite of '83, this means that there is broken parts of CC's brain. You also play on a brain shaped map, and right before this, either William or Michael said that they would put CC back together. There is already a prominent theory that Henry communicates with Cassidy through games, so there is a possibility that you play as Cassidy in fnaf world. There is also a possibility of playing as Michael or William trying to get remanent into CC to bring him back. This means that when you travel deeper into the games code, you are traveling into the consciousness of CC. In this theory that I made up, old man consequences is essentially telling whoever you play as that they have already tried everything, and that there is nothing else to do, he just wants to rest his soul. The puppet then set his soul free in the happiest day minigame, but Cassidy pulled his soul into UCN since he still had remanent in the fredbear suit. In UCN he is telling Cassidy that they both need to let it go and rest. He was saying that he doesn't feel the same fire for revenge that Cassidy has, and that she is fighting an endless, pointless battle, that will lead to nothing but pain for both her and William (this is when he said "There is nothing else"). Again, I don't believe this theory and there are probably a bunch of potholes in it, but it is fun to think about.
3:38
Because wanting to torment your abusive father who watched you die isn't enough motive???
Is there any connections between the crying child leaving his room and going to the forest in that minigame in which u are a yellow guy? maybe like old man consequences was someone who told william not to cross that path
Idk but am I the only one who thinks old man consequences is some sort of demonic creature which takes care for William Afton soul in hell
I have a matpat video theory just right after thus video
I think Henry died and became old man consequence's to set Cassidy's soul free
speed up the background audio in the Old Man Consequences world in UCN. Come back to me after
Guys he's the spirit of phone guy. My source is that it would be pretty cool.
I believe Michael is who you control in UCM and that his dad and himself are both experiencing their own hell. "Evan" Afton's happiest day was getting to bully, frighten, and punish him over and over again. His brother was the ONLY security guard throughout the series and it makes sense that his hell would be this. I believe Evan is TOYSHK. You meet OMC as Michael and he essentially tells you not to help your father screaming for you in the pit of hell and rest. Scott said that we got a few major things wrong in Sister Location and popular theories, I believe the William as the security guard was one of those wrong theories imo
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I don't think the freddy sprite could be cassidy since she doesn't rest and keeps torturing William despite what OMC says. I think it would work better as Michael since he devoted most of his life to reverting what his dad had done and with him actually dead this time he can rest, which he does. This also means William screaming for Mike or Henry lines up with the 2 characters on screen at the time.
But that wouldn’t make sense since why would Mike be represented with a Freddy sprite when in terms of his character he has zero correlation to Freddy while Cassidy does? Also old man consequences specifically tells the Feddy sprite to leave the demon to his demons and to rest their own soul which clearly implies that he is talking to Cassidy who refuses to rest and won’t leave Afton to his demons.
@@superadambomb5834I still feel like it works. He's been in close proximity to Cassidy for a long time, even if they don't know eachother on a more personal level, he would still want her to rest, as she was still a victim of his father's wrongdoings. The sprite would line up too with how Michael was portrayed in fnaf 4 with the red foxy mask.
William is does stop being tormented. He explodes
@Otacanthus I believe he's screaming for Michael and Henry to help him and OMC is telling him to leave him to his consequences and rest. Michael is the security guard in this game.. his dad is in another hell altogether. I believe the one you shouldn't have killed is Evan Afton. The cassidy theory is wrong, I'm positive. It's the most popular theory and Scott said there were a couple of major things the community got wrong. I am sure this was one. The happiest day was about Evan finally getting his 🎂 🥳 and getting to punish Michael and the other kids getting to punish his dad. Don't forget the magnitude of what he did.. his brother was slowly crushed to death painfully and bullied horrendously and cruelly until that moment. Michael deserved the same punishment as William imo Evan deserved to get his revenge too
@@incelreactions woah woah hold on a second. Michael does not at all deserve the same punishment as William. First off he didn’t expect the bite to kill Evan. Now sure it was a sick prank but there was no murder intended. Michael also did his best to make up for his past and help free the spirits including his brother. William on the other hand had full intentions of murder and never once tried to make up for his horrific actions. And also Evan being the “one you should not have killed” goes against the whole point of fnaf 3. The whole point of that games story was the spirits learning to move on and so did Evan. Cassidy is the only one who refuses to let go. And even the lines from other characters seem to highly indicate that we play as William. It makes so much more sense then punishing the main character for one bad action that he’s already tried his best to make up for. Also the whole purpose of the line “I have a feeling that’s not what you want. I have a feeling you are right where you want to be” is ruined by this theory because Michael doesn’t even get to rest with his family like he wanted to after years and years of anger, sadness, and grief. Pizza sim was his moment to finally rest after years of making up for his past while William is the one who is punished for his sins.
what if old man consequences is henry AND michael, it is shown that 2 people can possess one thing, and only robots/possesed things are in ucn
How did those 2 get in Williams mind?
@@Annoyance. judging by some of the voicelines cassididy either made copies of or took every animatronics soul and put it there, cassidy could have cloned or taken them there
@@heeheehaw393 that's not possible, OMC is literally implied to be one of Golden freddy spirits, Andrew to be exact
@@Annoyance. 1. how does that affect anything, and 2. like i said its just a theory
@@Annoyance.wait nvm i see what you mean, when i typed 2 people i meant atleast
Cassidy hasn't been laid to rest as Cassidy is all but confirmed to be the Princess in Princess Quest and her and William's spirit are linked as seen in the Frights books.
Andrew and Cassidy are two different people💀
@@Annoyance. mate that's not confirmed, basically nothing is confirmed on what state the books are when connecting to the games.
I think the Golden Freddy entity is composed by two spirits, both Crying Child and Cassidy. So Mike could still be the OMC.
Mike being omc doesn't make sense, also Mike is likely alive so being OMC ain't very possible. And how does he even end up in UCN when it's in Williams mind?
@@Annoyance. There is a *possibility* Mike is alive, it isn't very likely, the whole hipothesis is based on one line, altho it's FNaF, I wouldn't be surprised. And also Mike is William's son, if Golden Freddy wanted to, Mike would be there. And I said it could be, it's a possibility like any other, I just thought it was important to mention this since in the video it's treated like Golden Freddy needs to be either CC or Cassidy, when there's evidence to point that maybe it's both.
hes pure random ngl
Fishing alone
red pool
deep below
surrounded by trees
Just like the end of Ruin. thanks ooftroop
He looks like a gator.
No mention of his appearance?
I think old man consequences is old man consequences ngl
I think old man consquence is gray guy Easter egg in fnaf world cuz we play with the same freedy
Im sayin hes Michael because they both got them long noses
What if Old Man Consequences is Cassidy's dad?
I believe that ultimate custom night is controlled by Evan because he’s getting revenge on his father because the machine his dad created is the reason he’s dead the machine his dad created is the reason his sister is dead. His dad‘s creation is the reason his big brother is dead, Evan won’t let his father rest
Literally ucn and fazbear frights confirmed
Andrew is one keep William alive and he William victim number 7 who get mentioned toy chica high school year
@@killerman3715 Andrew is not canon because if that was canon William would of exploded
@MaskedManMPG Andrew canon same way mimic canon
The man in room 1280 literally answer what happened to William after fnaf 6
Burntrap is never William 😂
@@killerman3715 yea but burn traps problem is mimic went out of the kids skin in the next book
Bro never heard of Andrew 💀
Isn’t Andrew withered golden Freddy
Hes manny heffley
OMG
I always figured Old Man Consequences was a representation of God, that's how he can transend dimentions and why he tries to help lost souls find peace.
So Elizabeth afton wouldn't be in control of Circus Baby, because william didn't kill her, circus baby did, so your affirmation is fake, the crying child can be in control of golden freddy
I think the spurit from golden freddy is c.c (crying child) and cassidy
Why can’t old man consequences be his own character
7:28 william mapped new zealand
Майк просто мог попытаться освободить Касседи,необязательно Плачущий мальчик должен быть golden Freddy чтобы эта теория работала.
All the dudes in here commenting like she is fat or ugly are a bit too heavy on Kai’s lap. Sound like when a guy tries to get a girl and gets rejected then he call her ugly and fat. Doing that for somebody else is just crazy Family. Fr fr
Wrong vid bruh
Literally non of what you said proves Cassidy's the vengeful spirit, for starters the vengeful spirit can't be golden freddy since because of toy chica's high school years were hinted at the vengeful spirit being a secret victim snd Cassidy is not a secret victim, also what do you mean crying child has no reason to be angry at his father m, William tortured crying child with nightmare hallucinations