Is this only for beginners making under 100k. First year here, grossed 107k. Do you have a course for more advanced systems, tax incentives and breaks, LLC vs s-corp/c-corp structures, book keeping, federal, income, state taxes, Big boy shit?
@@greyson7379 I’m active in the course answering questions, but if you feel it’s not a good fit for you I’m available for private coaching calls for “advanced stuff”. Put your money where your mouth is, and we’ll see if you can keep up, big boy. 😉
After being in business 20+ years, both as a solo operator, and having multiple employees, there are fives phrases if a customer says them, I refer them to another service provider. 1.) Bid 2.) Quote 3.) Afford 4.) Single Mother 5.) Fixed Income Great video Johnathan. In my area I absolutely can't give them a range over the phone or they want the lower end of the range.
Spot on brother! The longer you're in this business, you can almost tell if people are playing the game or they really have no idea. I no longer install sod, but one estimate I actually quoted a reasonable $3,300. The guy was like, "I can do it myself for $300." I was polite and told him we're not the company for you. About a month later he called after getting a bunch of bids and wanted to know if I could do it for $1300, not joking. That's when call block comes in handy.
I’ve had something similar where a prospective client went and got multiple bids, then came back to me like 60 days later. My price went up at that point as I was completely booked.
I don't ever work for a customer that doesn't take the price I give them initially. In my experience they are problematic because they feel like they are overpaying.
@@123hotdog111 I usually quote them and say, this is my best price. I leave at that. Some people say, yes, some say no and some actually say they didn't realize the cost, but they need a little more time to save up for the project. I tell them I will honor labor cost, but materials vary, especially right now. I s at about 90% of people are just looking for a real quote. Maybe 5% are looking for the best bid and another 5% are trying to get over on you. They basically want the service at what it would cost them to do it. Basically looking for suckers.
We’re pushing 90% commerical annual contract business statewide now. In the past I had 360 scheduled residential lawn mowing clients. *You definitely develop a BS meter doing this full time. Your questions are spot on. What helped us to eliminate the “it was mowed two weeks ago” 2-3ft overgrown jungle lawns. 👉🏻 Require a mow fee minimum, ours is $60, make it very clear to the potential client. plus require a current front/back lawn photo for review. The minimum mow fee will run most potential headaches off and off your routes. current photos will immediately verify wether to move forward or not. That’s my 2-cents 🙃
Great comment. I like the idea of year round work for commercial, but am not on board with year round for residential. I’m going to do a vid on this soon… thanks again for an insightful comment.
A good way to weed out bad customers for landscaping jobs is make them pay a $50-$100 property walk around fee. If they accept the job the fee goes towards the job. You can then determine if they are just shopping or serious about spending money to get the job done. If you go out and quote it and they dont go with you. You didn't waste your time because you pocketed that $50-100
Always prequalify. You will save yourself so much time not giving bids to people whose only priority is the least amount of money as possible, which almost always is completely unrealistic. They think you should work for wages instead of running a business.
exactly. so many times ive talked with someone and theyve said been a couple weeks and set them up a price and then show up and its like man you havent edged in over a month. then feels like im stuck doing it all for the amount already given. How do you handle this?
you just tell them how it is and say these edges haven't been done in what looks like a month that's going to take me extra time and tell them how much extra that simple
@@MrTikdo i usually do. we have gotten in the habit of giving rough estimites and tell them that if its overgrown or something hasnt been done in a while it will be extra
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Is this only for beginners making under 100k. First year here, grossed 107k. Do you have a course for more advanced systems, tax incentives and breaks, LLC vs s-corp/c-corp structures, book keeping, federal, income, state taxes, Big boy shit?
@@greyson7379 I’m active in the course answering questions, but if you feel it’s not a good fit for you I’m available for private coaching calls for “advanced stuff”. Put your money where your mouth is, and we’ll see if you can keep up, big boy. 😉
Course well worth it if you're just getting started !
After being in business 20+ years, both as a solo operator, and having multiple employees, there are fives phrases if a customer says them, I refer them to another service provider.
1.) Bid
2.) Quote
3.) Afford
4.) Single Mother
5.) Fixed Income
Great video Johnathan. In my area I absolutely can't give them a range over the phone or they want the lower end of the range.
Or they say, "It's just a postage stamp sized lot." That's right! I've never seen one that small either... LOL
Spot on brother! The longer you're in this business, you can almost tell if people are playing the game or they really have no idea. I no longer install sod, but one estimate I actually quoted a reasonable $3,300. The guy was like, "I can do it myself for $300." I was polite and told him we're not the company for you. About a month later he called after getting a bunch of bids and wanted to know if I could do it for $1300, not joking. That's when call block comes in handy.
I would’ve informed him with inflation and increased operating cost. His quote now is $4,300.00 and that his deposit fee would total $1300.00 lol😂
I’ve had something similar where a prospective client went and got multiple bids, then came back to me like 60 days later. My price went up at that point as I was completely booked.
I don't ever work for a customer that doesn't take the price I give them initially. In my experience they are problematic because they feel like they are overpaying.
@@123hotdog111 I usually quote them and say, this is my best price. I leave at that. Some people say, yes, some say no and some actually say they didn't realize the cost, but they need a little more time to save up for the project. I tell them I will honor labor cost, but materials vary, especially right now. I s at about 90% of people are just looking for a real quote. Maybe 5% are looking for the best bid and another 5% are trying to get over on you. They basically want the service at what it would cost them to do it. Basically looking for suckers.
Qualifying will save you soo much time.
We’re pushing 90% commerical annual contract business statewide now. In the past I had 360 scheduled residential lawn mowing clients. *You definitely develop a BS meter doing this full time. Your questions are spot on.
What helped us to eliminate the “it was mowed two weeks ago” 2-3ft overgrown jungle lawns. 👉🏻 Require a mow fee minimum, ours is $60, make it very clear to the potential client. plus require a current front/back lawn photo for review.
The minimum mow fee will run most potential headaches off and off your routes. current photos will immediately verify wether to move forward or not.
That’s my 2-cents 🙃
Great comment. I like the idea of year round work for commercial, but am not on board with year round for residential. I’m going to do a vid on this soon… thanks again for an insightful comment.
It’s a good idea asking about the budget. I’ve seen peoples mouth drop open on quotes. People don’t realize material costs
Yes, materials are about half the project most time!
Thank you for the insight
Yes i do landscaping and question 3 definitly helps. Because those estimates take time and time is money.
A good way to weed out bad customers for landscaping jobs is make them pay a $50-$100 property walk around fee. If they accept the job the fee goes towards the job. You can then determine if they are just shopping or serious about spending money to get the job done. If you go out and quote it and they dont go with you. You didn't waste your time because you pocketed that $50-100
Bang on. Great questions. You have to value your time Had a call recently where the caller just bad mouthed the last gardener, politely declined.
Thank you... I will use those steps going forward.
Words of wisdom!
Excellent video as always
Awesome advice. Never thought about those questions
Always prequalify. You will save yourself so much time not giving bids to people whose only priority is the least amount of money as possible, which almost always is completely unrealistic. They think you should work for wages instead of running a business.
Always good valuable information videos, appreciate it
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exactly. so many times ive talked with someone and theyve said been a couple weeks and set them up a price and then show up and its like man you havent edged in over a month. then feels like im stuck doing it all for the amount already given. How do you handle this?
you just tell them how it is and say these edges haven't been done in what looks like a month that's going to take me extra time and tell them how much extra that simple
@@MrTikdo i usually do. we have gotten in the habit of giving rough estimites and tell them that if its overgrown or something hasnt been done in a while it will be extra
How old is Florida Turf Pros ?
6 years old!
@@FloridaTurfPros I am finishing year 2 and I owe you and other RUclipsrs a huge thank you for all of your great content ! Even with great content, theres still a "wrestle through the details" learning curve, but you guys advice helps straighten that curve significantly !!
Can you make videos on how to do taxes, charge people sales tax also how to pay sales tax, federal and income, how to bookkeep yourself or what to look for when hiring a bookkeeper. Common and uncommon Tax deductions.
I understand you can’t give us advice but at least tell us what works for you and what you’re doing.
There’s some really good videos on these topics I’ve done.. go poking around my older videos and you’ll find them.