German is a monster! S Korea had fast reload! Swedish was coolest, I'm like, where's the freekin' barrell, then it pops from nowhere. UK tank prolly leaks lots of oil, like their cars. The Chinese were, well, made in China. Thanks 4 the upload, great clip.
I have seen the German Mobile Artillery in person. Quite impressive..it can land 4 shells on the same target at the same time by using different elevations in less than 30 seconds
K9 thunder has 100km shell. the amunition has 5m CEP at 100km. no one has that distance. not even excaliber. and Korean battleships would have s same amunition. and Korea has acomplished 40mm railgun(electro magnetic cannon) experiment too.
+erdem güler HOCAM DOST GÜNEY KORE'NİN ŞEREFLİ ORDUSUNUN T-155 FIRTINALARI KULLANMASINDAN MUTLULUK DUYARIZ. YUKARIDAKİ 9 MODELİN HİÇBİRİSİNİN FIRTINANIN SAHİP OLDUĞU ATIŞ KONTROL HASSASİYETİNE SAHİP DEĞİL AYRICA BİZİM TOPÇULAR 40 KM DEN NOKTA HEDEF VURAN CİDDİ EĞİTİM VE TECRÜBEYE SAHİPLER. DÜNYANIN GÖZDEN KAÇIRDIĞI NOKTA SİLAHLAR KENDİ BAŞLARINA SAVAŞAMAZLAR ANCAK İYİ EĞİTİMLİ CESUR SUBAY VE ASKERLERİN KOMUTA VE KOORDİNASYONU İLE SAVAŞ KAZANILIR...
When my son was in Afghanistan he told me about the Paladins. He said you knew when they had a target and were preparing to fire, their generators would rev up. He said these things are awesome..
Damn ,this is the 2nd artillery video in a row where the person posting didn't take the time to give a detailed description of each heavy artillery piece ,it's specifications ,it's available load out ,where it's saw service in combat and it's duty cycle .
I fixed the problem in all the newer list and little by little I'm uploading again the previous lists updated with specs on video. Soon will be posted this one again too don't worry...Sorry for the problem :(
NICE VIDEO :) I THINK THE TRACKED OR WHEELED COMPACT VERSIONS ARE GOOD IN SHOOT N SCOOT BUT DEPENDS ON: 1- RATE OF FIRE 2 - FIRING RANGE 3 - MANEUVERABILITY 4 - ENGINE POWER N RANGE OF VEHICLE WHO EVER WINS IN THESE AREAS IS THE BEST. THESE ARE USUALLY BEHIND TANKS AND TANK HUNTERS AND "SOFTEN" THE TARGETS FOR TANKS AND INFANTRY. IF YOU MENTION THESE STATS ON EVERY WEAPON THEN IT'S EASIER TO KNOW WHICH IS BETTER.
Thank you for the comment and the advice :) In the newer list I just started to add all the specs on video as you said! Slowly I'll update all the previous lists with the specs on video too :)
+The Darth Designer that their shots and reloads ammunition are automatically , just as your system marksmanship , doing this that its action is 5 times faster than any other system , the order of numbers determined tripping even gives and this it is done automatically as well.
The Pzh2000 have an autoloader too and also an higher fire rate. PZH: 3 rounds in 10 seconds K-9: 3 rounds in 15 seconds ----------------------------------- PZH: 8-10 rounds in 1 minute K-9: 6-8 rounds in 1 minute "5 times faster than any other system" it's false....maybe you mean "any other PREVIOUS system" referring to the previous Korean howitzers,not all over the world ;)
OniNemesis yeah mate I have seen KRAB in action.. fucking hell :) really really awesome thing to see... Korean chassis is awesome really stable when that 155mm cannon kicks :)
I'm surprised to see the swedish/BAE Archer system as far back as 8th place. Taking into account precision, range, type of ammunition, both ready to fire-speed and moving speed it is about as good as an SPG gets currently. And a great important difference: it can be operated by 1 man, the driver from inside the drivers compartment If needed. And on top of all that, it is a lot cheaper than the other systems to aquire and easier/cheaper to maintain.
It is just a truck, barely armoured, not tracked vehicle. Bad offroad mobility. Bad NBC protection. Artillery is not all about guns. Not suited for upcoming nuclear war.
@@kosiak10851 full off-road capability means considerably slower speed, more expensive and more complicated support/logistics. Also wheeled truck means any truck-driver can drive without prior training. Unless heavy tank-armoured - less armour can be penetrated with a shoulder-mounted rocket-launcher like the Carl-Gustav M3. More important is the fact that personal can operate everything from within the vehicle = quicker reaction-time and protection against rifle-fire.
***** Doesn't matter that you can't read? Very Funny! And please mr.expert when the Koalitsiya-S was delivered/entered in service? Try to think before comment please.
+Drago Puskaric Koalicia wasn't delivered yet and maybe it will delivered the end of the year...maybe.However when delivered it should achieve the first spot :)
+Drago Puskaric Wahaha!!! Koalitsiya No.2? Thanks boy, you are very generous. PzH-2000 shot on 56 kilometers only by means of a special V-LAP shell on the African polygon. Serial long-range shells for PzH-2000 have smaller range: from 30 to 40 km. But it in theories, reality for you and the German gunners is even less iridescent - the Dutch PzH-2000 in Afghanistan showed a low slosely-grouped fire at a distance over 30 km with Rh-40 shells. Shells fell at distance more than 1 kilometer from each other - actually, with SUCH slosely-grouped fire it was impossible to destroy the target, only accidental :) Firing accuracy at a distance to 22 km with Rh-30 shell was good. The Russian 2S19M2 shoots with a new shell on 41 km and it is explicit better than PzH-2000 with shitty Rh-40. By means of old shells 2S19M2 destroy targets at distance of 32 km. In comparison with 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV even DONAR looks miserable, so don't tell nonsense boy.
i think it would be nice to have your personal opinion on WHY this and this weapon is better than another one. i hope you did not choose by how cool the video looked lol
If one day, they meet this kind of situation, i bet them be like "lock the enemy, use this vehicle as tank destroyer (like Ferdinand or SU-100) and fuego!!"
you paint the first tank in white and paint an N7 in it , boom mass effect real tank xD , whatever, that tank looks soo futuristic in my opinion ;) good vídeo!!!!!
Impressive. Koreans made Shell Refilling tanks too?! I didn't know a country really made them before. How can we call that kind of machines properly in English? Self-loader? reloader tank? Shell-Refill vehicle?
All Of These SPGs Are Excellent Vehicles.........Good Job Presenting Them............Now Place Them In The Real Ranking Order Of Combat Effectiveness. Theories And Thats All They Are Until You Actually Use Them In Combat To Rate Them For How Effective They Were Is What You Gave Here............Only A Few On This List Where Used In Anger To ACTUALLY Rate Their Performance.
+Tony Gonzalez Because,as written,the list is based on SPECS. At least try to watch the first seconds of the video. The lists are fair an any machine follow the same criteria.If only few have seen combat it can't be called a fair parameter.
+The Darth Designer This Is The Reason Why The M109A7 Paladin Will Be The Best Artillery In The World. There is Always A M992 Field Artillery Ammunition Support Vehicle Per M109A7.
And how is the M109 overrated when its pinpoint accuracy is still as good if not better that it was 20 years ago? Validate your statement otherwise your just other armchair general who really doesnt know shit. ANYBODY can write specs but lets see how effective in war it truly is
"range,kind of ammunition used,time to deploy,rate of fire" So archer that got the longerst range, can fire all the modern ammunition (included the guided onces), got the shortest time to deply, fastest fire rate (fires as fast as can fire 5 shells and make them hit the ground at the same time and place. And put it in the 9:th place after some antiques. I would actually take the numbers ad push then into a spreed sheat and calculate the actuall realtive preformance, but i guess you just guesseed.
+matsv201 "So archer that got the longerst range" He don't.Have the same range of the others 30-60+km "can fire all the modern ammunition" just like the others "got the shortest time to deply" Only thing right "fastest fire rate" wrong again.Also the others can do it it's nothing special.The PZH can hit the target with even 7 bullets at the same time. But the archer have a giant problem.It's wheeled and need roads.Can't be deployed in any kind of terrain and don't have the same precision like the others. I guess instead that you are swedish and a little biased right?
OniNemesis " He don't.Have the same range of the others 30-60+km" No, opterational range of Archer is longer. ""can fire all the modern ammunition" just like the others" Wrong, most artilery pices cant fire guided amunition "The PZH can hit the target with even 7 bullets at the same time" Wring, PZH got MRSI of 5 shells... NOTE shells, not bullets. Same as archer. "But the archer have a giant problem.It's wheeled and need roads" Here you are WAY of. The archer can run right thought the woods. Its all terain vehicle. Archer can shot 20 shells in 2.5 minutes, for PZH it takes 4 minutes. "don't have the same precision like the others." Now you just making things up. Archer got a computer controlled compensation system. Yea some of the others got it to, but Archer got of the newest. "I guess instead that you are swedish and a little biased right?" No, this is called projection Why don´t you get the facts before guessing.
I don't really see what was the criteria for this top , number of rounds per min. ? Distance , caliber ? Maybe mobility or the martial aspect ? Anyway , was fun to watch .
The 60 km reach of the Archer, the 3 grabades in 15 seconds. The 70 Km/h speed. 21 grenades in 2.5 min. Should have placed it among the 3 top contenders. The choice is more about tactical or strategical movement and the cost of moving the system and the reach than it has to do with the capacity to move in bad terrain. Since there is few types of terrain an Archer can not cope with. The 60 km reach of the system also makes it possible to avoid swamps et cetera.
The list was updated and split in 2 different lists, tracked and wheeled. In one list there are too many differences between them. For example in a desert (like the thumbnail of the video) the Archer loose most of the mobility and advantages
Это же исходя из каких ТТХ составлялся ТОП?!))) По идее МСТА-С должна стоять как минимум на 2 а то и на 1 месте (ничего не знаю про германскую САУ), ибо по дальности, точности, кучности и скорострельности, она куда уж более чем превосходит Сингапурскую, Британскую, Корейскую (переработки "Паладина") и уж тем более китайский "клон")))
Дак итальяшка долбоёб, ему уже и с фактами и с ТТХ не только в этом рейтиге писали на подобную тему. Чел далёк от темы и смотрит амерские киношки, лего собирать - вот его...
Временные рамки и технологии несопоставимые. Коалицию нужно сравнивать с Крестоносцем, МСТУ с Паладинами с длинноствольным орудием (и модификации на основе этого Паладина), а то что показано в этом видео произведено на базе первых Паладинов с коротким стволом орудия (кроме разве что немецкой САУ), которые больше сопоставимы с 2С3"Акация" и ее модификациями. Собственно как-то так.
i think the best one is number 8 serbian howitzer. it looks cheap and effective. most of this list are like main battle tanks with bigger guns. i will choose to go to battle with them instead of main battle tanks. i thimk they are superior to main battle tanks. but they must be more expensive.
Turkey has 750 T-155 Storm and Panther Howitzers ( Turkish version of K-9 Howitzer ) ........even UK+France+Germany have no total of 750 Howitzer Turkish Army is the best in EUROPE with Quality and Quantitiy
i think the archer should be higher :)i know it have longer range and faster firing rate then alot of the others and plus its fire ready in like 30s and can go every where:)plus it only have 1 driver that do everything and it can operate in biological and nucular warzones with no harm for the driver:)but nice list anyway:)
+björn sjöblom Thanks :) However it can't go anywhere.The wheeled machine are quite ever worse than tracked just for this reason.The Archer is made for it's own country and is the best for that kind of terrain and ROADS.But it can't be deployed and used in any kind of terrain/mission like the others :S
think it should work god every where:)it can go truth snow and think they should work god in desert envirment/junglesand so on to with its 6x6 and big tires and so on:)only bad thing is turning ratio :)US uses a lot of wheel vechiles in irak and so on so but yeah yeah who cares its just a list:)every vechile on it is pretty awesome so and its first build for the swedish forrest so:)like the stridsvagn s:)good in sweden and defending but not so much otherwise:)
yeah that to but the also have big personal trucks and mine trucks and stuf full of armor that weight more then the archer:)archer is just a gun and a cabine:)archer shouldnt have problems to get around only draw back is that it havent tracks so it can turn 360 turns but but its probably faster then a track vechile so its like + -0 situation:)and snow and mud is way worse condition then desert so:P
CONGRETULATION FOR THIS NICE STUDY. BUT I THING IT WAS FORGETTEN ONE OF THE most development Turkish made howitzer named "FIRTINA". The meaning of Firtina in English in TORNADO. Regards
+OniNemesis i really wish you would put in a slide after each item stating key points why you think that vehicle should be in that place so we wouldnt have to go searching around the web trying to figure out why its better than the others. It would make things alot easier and better for us. Just an idea, hopefully youll read this and consider it
+Cornholio Bunhole All the infos are ever in description btw :) Only one slide isn't enough for all the infos and adding all of them would make the video last too long.Unfortunately people don't like to watch too long videos :(
Number one should be PzH2000 and PLZ-05/PLZ-52 together. The K9 self-propelled howitzer and AS-90 self-propelled howitzer can only shoot up to 40 km maximum range. The PLZ-05/PLZ-52 can shoot up to 50 km for rocket projectile, 70 km for large aspect ratio cylindrical shells, and 100 km for WS-35 shells.
G6 should be waaaay higher up this list. Cheaper to buy and operate, has actually been combat tested. and is just as capable in most ways, if not better. In terms of cost/capability it's hard to beat.
Where's the french AUF-1 ? It is so efficient that they use it like a normal tank or a classical howitzer. It would kick the ass of the most part of this top 🔟 howitzer.
I think that an Artillery Tank is more practical as a Artillery Truck! What if there would be an attack!? I know that the German Army is training their Artillery Troops for such events and to use their Panzerhaubitze as a Tank. And for the rest, it is operatable in places which Trucks could not reach!
Not sure if I agree with systems like Primus Being here. It's basically a scaled down Paladin with Bradley and M8 parts. For it to rank above the Paladin with its 39 calibre gun is a mockery. I like the vid but we have vastly different means of rating systems I guess.
Since the USA now has GPS guided artillery rounds. The USA doesn't have to fire and hope for a hit. That would make the USA systems the Number 1 system in the world
+TremereTT wow...two german howizers that people wanna see in a top 10 ranking...some german engineers must have done something right in the past...can't say that about the Eurocopter Tiger and Eurofighter Typhoon...well, german engineers were allways great at building heavy weapons (PzKpfW VI (H) Tiger etc.) ;)
' which one is better service on the dirty / ground / land... 2 tracks or 6 wheels or 8 wheels... wheels are lighter than 2 tracks... or 2 tracks are lighter than wheels
Turkish Fırtına T-155 is much effective than these howitzers. For long time active in the army since 1995 and doing good against the targets in or out of the country. Please have a look to compare.
lol it was revealed during the victory parade in may 2015!!! Revealed and enter in service are different things.The serial production is scheduled for this year and mass delivery in 2019. tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2092825
the archer and and the serbian self propelled are very long . they need bigger space to position and not for shoot and scoot: shoot and hastily speed away to escape counter defilade. The rest are oversize tanks which uses tracks hence very heavy. The south african rhino is compact and can be shoot and scoot and proven to be maneuverable in all kind of terrain with its all tyres. and also fast on road and reasonably fast off- road. like the rhino.
The Archer system is actually probably the best system on the market right now for "shoot and scoot". It is light, very fast, has a superb ready to fire-speed and are constructed specifically to fire for example the Bonus-round (the highest precision rate arty ammo ever). There was a test made recently were they could fire a round into the sun roof of a car at about 30 km range...
+arthur acuarsy proboly thats wy the swedish are in on the list the archer system can hit a car on 2 kilometers whit two shots at the same time fylly automated to lower the agle to gt the secon shot to hit the same time the germans might have souch good system them to
+arthur Exactly,tracks are slow go for no 10 G6 ,120kph 50 km range anti mine base bleed nuclear 6 wheel independent drive with tyre inflation on the run.
The PzH 2000 has automatic support for up to 5 rounds of Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact (MRSI). in burst mode it can fire three rounds in 9 seconds, ten rounds in 56 seconds, and can-depending on barrel heating-fire between 10 and 13 rounds per minute continuously. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerhaubitze_2000
Personally, i don't see a REAL need for these SPG any longer in any modern warfare that are bulky, slow and can be easily taken out by guided missiles. These things are good only for show of force and destroying stationary civilian buildings.
2 Ukrainian Mechanized Battalions decimated by a combination of Rockets and Self Propeeled Artillery using thermobaric and cluster munitions. Google ' Russian combat tactics in Ukraine'. They were used very effectively in conjunction with drones for isr. Its an interesting read.
Hi Jack. There is one point that must be made clear. During a war/battle, facing strong opposition vs. facing lack of or no opposition , the aftermath can be very different. The one and only mistake that the Ukrainian army made was that they have under-estimated the rebels and presumed that the rebels could only do so much, without realising that the Russians were playing active roles in the conflict. Ukraine had not declared war on Russia. That was the root cause of having 2 Ukrainian battalions decimated. They didn't expect such a strong response from Russia in which their targets are merely the rebels. If a bullet or missile is fired directly to Russian interests like what the Turkey did, the outcome would be very different than what it is today. By then, do you think the SPGs could have any function without the risks of being taken out by Ukrainian SU-27?
ryu hoshi Completely different WHERE exactly? The T-155 only differences are the turret design and parts of the chassis.... Then the electronics is the Turkish one (like the navigation system, and electronic systems) but this doesn't mean it's different.The equipments reach the same purpose...and if we want to be precise the T-155 Fırtına lacks in some features present on the K9 like the commander's digital panoramic sight....
The Darth Designer m109, though it had multiple modification, is extremely old. if my guess is correct, about 50 years old, right? archer can fire way more shell than m109 under 10 mins. it's just my humble opinion. i'm no expert on military so please correct me if i'm wrong.
kdg5636 Yes the basic machine is 50 years old but it was updated more times during those years :) Also the abrams and leopards are very old tanks but still some of the best now days :) Newer doesn't mean automatically better.The latest m109 variant have new loader and can fire every NATO shell from the old ones to the newest smart rounds :) Of course the age is starting to be a problem and (in fact) isn't so high in the list...soon probably will be out without other upgrades but FOR NOW (2015 at least) is still quite good!
+Alessandro Just If a tank gets hit by a 155 or 152 mm shell it's day will be spoiled, and I sure as hell wouldn't like to be inside the tank when it happened.
+OniNemesis Yah you could because I know a lot has changed with reactive armor and just overall crew weaponry. I know you mixed APCs and IFVs in that video too (like mashed em together in the same class). :P You could also do a Top 10 for water landing/take off (seaplanes) military variants. I know some of the Jet ones are neat, even if they are older.
Do top 10 armored wheelchairs 2016, please !
+Mairon Mantovani lol
gabi.
Top 1 : Mr Bean's wheel chair
I'm just really proud of it . Because I has been a member of field artillery which operates K-9 Thunder :)
we indians got 100 of them . nice machine bro
Mayank Singh i envy your bramos antiship missile badly
Pz. 2000 has a very Good armor
German is a monster! S Korea had fast reload! Swedish was coolest, I'm like, where's the freekin' barrell, then it pops from nowhere. UK tank prolly leaks lots of oil, like their cars. The Chinese were, well, made in China. Thanks 4 the upload, great clip.
US is expensive 😀
Pzh2000 still my fav arty :D
Archer instantaneous firespeed is 720 rounds per hour or 12 rounds per minute.
It can fire the Bofors Excalibur GPS round up to 60 km.
K9 Thunder & K10 Thunder mom is the winner.
I have seen the German Mobile Artillery in person. Quite impressive..it can land 4 shells on the same target at the same time by using different elevations in less than 30 seconds
K9 thunder has 100km shell. the amunition has 5m CEP at 100km. no one has that distance. not even excaliber. and Korean battleships would have s same amunition. and Korea has acomplished 40mm railgun(electro magnetic cannon) experiment too.
U wot m8? You're right, I used to have the board game but it disappeared.
I think He is talking about FPS game
Jongsoo Kim m8 100km? You think people believe your bullshit?
I appreciate all of your top 10s. You seem very knowledgeable and you know what you're doing. Thank you for another great video
+Gamestyle2004 Thanks to you for the comments :)
+OniNemesis I'll have to try 1 of your Legos soon
Soviet Union? Really?!?
Ehm yes :/
Nora in top 10 bravo for SERBIA.
K-9 Thunder=T-155 Fırtına South Korean and madein Turkey. (Y)
Like the brotherhood between Turkey and South Korea, both T155 and K-9 share the brotherhood..
+SG Shin Thanks very good answer :))
We must better than german artelery
+Islam Licht PzH 2000 is best SPG it has used Croatia it can shot 13 shells in minute so it 8s best
+erdem güler HOCAM DOST GÜNEY KORE'NİN ŞEREFLİ ORDUSUNUN T-155 FIRTINALARI KULLANMASINDAN MUTLULUK DUYARIZ. YUKARIDAKİ 9 MODELİN HİÇBİRİSİNİN FIRTINANIN SAHİP OLDUĞU ATIŞ KONTROL HASSASİYETİNE SAHİP DEĞİL AYRICA BİZİM TOPÇULAR 40 KM DEN NOKTA HEDEF VURAN CİDDİ EĞİTİM VE TECRÜBEYE SAHİPLER. DÜNYANIN GÖZDEN KAÇIRDIĞI NOKTA SİLAHLAR KENDİ BAŞLARINA SAVAŞAMAZLAR ANCAK İYİ EĞİTİMLİ CESUR SUBAY VE ASKERLERİN KOMUTA VE KOORDİNASYONU İLE SAVAŞ KAZANILIR...
A top ten video on youtube were someone actually put an effort into it, and it even got sources! You deserve a comment my friend! :)
Thank you so much!!!! :)
Nice to see the PzH2000 on first place. German tanks all the way.
SPG*
Hyunjun Park It can act as a tank
no it can't tank and SPGs are made with different role in mind
Wessel200 Hey hoe kom ik jou nou tegen
Wesley Kolkman idfk
When my son was in Afghanistan he told me about the Paladins. He said you knew when they had a target and were preparing to fire, their generators would rev up. He said these things are awesome..
5:45 - 6:07 Thats why roads in russia are terrible
Павел Зубов lmao
That is not russian. It is Lugandon (LDPR)
Damn ,this is the 2nd artillery video in a row where the person posting didn't take the time to give a detailed description of each heavy artillery piece ,it's specifications ,it's available load out ,where it's saw service in combat and it's duty cycle .
I fixed the problem in all the newer list and little by little I'm uploading again the previous lists updated with specs on video.
Soon will be posted this one again too don't worry...Sorry for the problem :(
K9 WAS MADE IN KOREA NOT TURKY YOU BUNCH OF IDIOTS
MLG kor ean T-155 howitzers different stupid
ahmet kacar but not the k9 you fgt
+ahmet kacar T-155 is from K9. T-155는 K9에서 왔습니다.
Fuck the Turks. K2, K9 designed and made by Korea!
i thinks "made by turkey"means "produced by turkey" not "designed by turkey"
hi!... OniNemesis...U r very knowledgeable in military (howizers). I admit.
Coalitsia-SV is №1
+Hell Not delivered yet :( Probably next year :(
OniNemesis soon :)
Hell Hope :)
OniNemesis next year is soon, much sooner than 2030 nato's analog:)
Hell The Nato's analog will never built for me
After a K9 upgrade...
Name change K9A1
Maybe the K9A1 will open to the public in the fourth quarter of this year.
Thanks for the info!
Soviet union? are you retarded?
What's wrong with that???
Nope,and you?
given that the Soviet Union fell in 1981
Kinda means, it's no longer the Soviet Union..
Did it ever cross your mind it could have been designed before 1991...?
NICE VIDEO :)
I THINK THE TRACKED OR WHEELED COMPACT VERSIONS ARE GOOD IN SHOOT N SCOOT BUT DEPENDS ON:
1- RATE OF FIRE
2 - FIRING RANGE
3 - MANEUVERABILITY
4 - ENGINE POWER N RANGE OF VEHICLE
WHO EVER WINS IN THESE AREAS IS THE BEST.
THESE ARE USUALLY BEHIND TANKS AND TANK HUNTERS AND "SOFTEN" THE TARGETS FOR TANKS AND INFANTRY.
IF YOU MENTION THESE STATS ON EVERY WEAPON THEN IT'S EASIER TO KNOW WHICH IS BETTER.
Thank you for the comment and the advice :)
In the newer list I just started to add all the specs on video as you said! Slowly I'll update all the previous lists with the specs on video too :)
#1 k9
#2 phz 2000
Why?
+The Darth Designer that their shots and reloads ammunition are automatically , just as your system marksmanship , doing this that its action is 5 times faster than any other system , the order of numbers determined tripping even gives and this it is done automatically as well.
The Pzh2000 have an autoloader too and also an higher fire rate.
PZH: 3 rounds in 10 seconds
K-9: 3 rounds in 15 seconds
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PZH: 8-10 rounds in 1 minute
K-9: 6-8 rounds in 1 minute
"5 times faster than any other system" it's false....maybe you mean "any other PREVIOUS system" referring to the previous Korean howitzers,not all over the world ;)
+The Darth Designer K9 shells is auto transfer. (by K10)
BUT not Pzh2000
Resupply and time reduction is a very real importance in all war situations.
Yes and in fact it helps for an higher spot...but one good aspect doesn't mean everything in fact,as I said,it's less good in other parameters.
good to see that Polish KRAB is built on Korean license :) at least something good came out from that deal.
+Pawel K thank u :)
OniNemesis yeah mate I have seen KRAB in action.. fucking hell :) really really awesome thing to see... Korean chassis is awesome really stable when that 155mm cannon kicks :)
+Pawel K I really want to see it in action too * ___ *
I'm surprised to see the swedish/BAE Archer system as far back as 8th place. Taking into account precision, range, type of ammunition, both ready to fire-speed and moving speed it is about as good as an SPG gets currently.
And a great important difference: it can be operated by 1 man, the driver from inside the drivers compartment If needed. And on top of all that, it is a lot cheaper than the other systems to aquire and easier/cheaper to maintain.
It is just a truck, barely armoured, not tracked vehicle. Bad offroad mobility. Bad NBC protection.
Artillery is not all about guns.
Not suited for upcoming nuclear war.
@@kosiak10851 full off-road capability means considerably slower speed, more expensive and more complicated support/logistics. Also wheeled truck means any truck-driver can drive without prior training. Unless heavy tank-armoured - less armour can be penetrated with a shoulder-mounted rocket-launcher like the Carl-Gustav M3. More important is the fact that personal can operate everything from within the vehicle = quicker reaction-time and protection against rifle-fire.
Aaaaaannnd another Video that only judges by the visual look of the vehicle´s great.
+shagal2142 Aaaaaannnd another user that can't read or watch even the first 15 seconds of the video....great.
+OniNemesis Doesnt matter,still bullshit.Especially the crap PzH2000 on 1 place instead of the 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV eheeeeeeem
***** Doesn't matter that you can't read? Very Funny!
And please mr.expert when the Koalitsiya-S was delivered/entered in service?
Try to think before comment please.
I would not necessarily agree with all of your personal selections but this is a very well researched and pot together post. Well done!! :)
+Matthew Beeching thank u the same :)
What is the best is subjective but nice video about showing this howitzers
Oh..god...! Archer is my new favorite SPG!!!
K-55, the other 155mm howitzer of South Korean army, is the same as M109. I love it.
That's why I'm proud to study defence technology.
Good list! I believe the Koalisiya entered serial production this year. Thus I would give it the No.2
+Drago Puskaric Koalicia wasn't delivered yet and maybe it will delivered the end of the year...maybe.However when delivered it should achieve the first spot :)
+Drago Puskaric Wahaha!!! Koalitsiya No.2? Thanks boy, you are very generous.
PzH-2000 shot on 56 kilometers only by means of a special V-LAP shell on the African polygon. Serial long-range shells for PzH-2000 have smaller range: from 30 to 40 km. But it in theories, reality for you and the German gunners is even less iridescent - the Dutch PzH-2000 in Afghanistan showed a low slosely-grouped fire at a distance over 30 km with Rh-40 shells. Shells fell at distance more than 1 kilometer from each other - actually, with SUCH slosely-grouped fire it was impossible to destroy the target, only accidental :) Firing accuracy at a distance to 22 km with Rh-30 shell was good.
The Russian 2S19M2 shoots with a new shell on 41 km and it is explicit better than PzH-2000 with shitty Rh-40.
By means of old shells 2S19M2 destroy targets at distance of 32 km. In comparison with 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV even DONAR looks miserable, so don't tell nonsense boy.
Sweden,first time like "WTF is that ? i don't see the weapon" and then the thing stop and Showing the gun like"Ohh...."
Seems reasonably accurate list.
+urban dweller thank u :)
The Best Of howitizer
i think it would be nice to have your personal opinion on WHY this and this weapon is better than another one. i hope you did not choose by how cool the video looked lol
lol seriously, you didn't show how the PzH2000 shoots? xD but it's #1 !
The list, as written, is based on specs and not the looks.You need only to read ;)
man the germans always makes the sexiest armored vehicle
IDK, just talking armour, I like the Merkava
Dmitry Zacharov that's a really sexy tank as well, there should be a beauty contest for tanks lol
I agreed completely with the list, but just saying I'm pretty sure with the Msta footage you included the Koalitsaya... they're not the same =p
Can a self propelled howitzer engage an enemy tank if they see one at close range (lets say 200-300m)?
Or it's pretty much screwed against a tank?
+So Unreal The second one lol It's pretty difficult for them engage a near target :)
If one day, they meet this kind of situation, i bet them be like "lock the enemy, use this vehicle as tank destroyer (like Ferdinand or SU-100) and fuego!!"
you paint the first tank in white and paint an N7 in it , boom mass effect real tank xD , whatever, that tank looks soo futuristic in my opinion ;) good vídeo!!!!!
the 1:22 tank :v in the begining of the vídeo :v
thank u :)
The Darth Designer :)
Poles bought a tower from the British (AS-90), and a chassis from Koreans (K9). The whole goes well and shoots very steadily.
Yes the Krab :D
Top 10 infantry men would be great.
Impressive.
Koreans made Shell Refilling tanks too?! I didn't know a country really made them before. How can we call that kind of machines properly in English? Self-loader? reloader tank? Shell-Refill vehicle?
Do you mean an auto-loader?
u mean k-10 reloader?
Its official name is K-10
+Toon Hermans
no he means the resupply tank for the ammunition.
ruclips.net/video/DZRuA57MHLo/видео.htmlm7s the right one
+Александр Карелин ammunition resupply vehicle
12:27 it has Croatian logo on the left and right side of PZH2000 thank you for that cut I really apriciate that
i meni bilo drago viditi Pzh 2000 za hrvatskim grbom!!!!!!!
nice stuff , didn't know there were so many systems out there.. been checking each out as to effectiveness,value
I have the feeling you like everything military with the "made in germany" sticker on it
But im not complaining it's proof that we rock ^^
+Micsmit 45 You are wrong :/
Do a top 10 Anti air turrets or something like that please!! :)
The top two have longer barrels. US is now working to install longer barrels as well as upgrade everything else, so should be one of the top 3 soon.
All Of These SPGs Are Excellent Vehicles.........Good Job Presenting Them............Now Place Them In The Real Ranking Order Of Combat Effectiveness. Theories And Thats All They Are Until You Actually Use Them In Combat To Rate Them For How Effective They Were Is What You Gave Here............Only A Few On This List Where Used In Anger To ACTUALLY Rate Their Performance.
+Tony Gonzalez Because,as written,the list is based on SPECS. At least try to watch the first seconds of the video. The lists are fair an any machine follow the same criteria.If only few have seen combat it can't be called a fair parameter.
+The Darth Designer This Is The Reason Why The M109A7 Paladin Will Be The Best Artillery In The World. There is Always A M992 Field Artillery Ammunition Support Vehicle Per M109A7.
+Tony Gonzalez The Paladin is old,outdated and very overrated....can you tell me exactly where is superior to the others???
You havent been in war or you would understand where Im coming from.
And how is the M109 overrated when its pinpoint accuracy is still as good if not better that it was 20 years ago? Validate your statement otherwise your just other armchair general who really doesnt know shit. ANYBODY can write specs but lets see how effective in war it truly is
"range,kind of ammunition used,time to deploy,rate of fire"
So archer that got the longerst range, can fire all the modern ammunition (included the guided onces), got the shortest time to deply, fastest fire rate (fires as fast as can fire 5 shells and make them hit the ground at the same time and place.
And put it in the 9:th place after some antiques.
I would actually take the numbers ad push then into a spreed sheat and calculate the actuall realtive preformance, but i guess you just guesseed.
+matsv201 "So archer that got the longerst range" He don't.Have the same range of the others 30-60+km
"can fire all the modern ammunition" just like the others
"got the shortest time to deply" Only thing right
"fastest fire rate" wrong again.Also the others can do it it's nothing special.The PZH can hit the target with even 7 bullets at the same time.
But the archer have a giant problem.It's wheeled and need roads.Can't be deployed in any kind of terrain and don't have the same precision like the others.
I guess instead that you are swedish and a little biased right?
OniNemesis
" He don't.Have the same range of the others 30-60+km"
No, opterational range of Archer is longer.
""can fire all the modern ammunition" just like the others"
Wrong, most artilery pices cant fire guided amunition
"The PZH can hit the target with even 7 bullets at the same time"
Wring, PZH got MRSI of 5 shells... NOTE shells, not bullets. Same as archer.
"But the archer have a giant problem.It's wheeled and need roads"
Here you are WAY of. The archer can run right thought the woods. Its all terain vehicle.
Archer can shot 20 shells in 2.5 minutes, for PZH it takes 4 minutes.
"don't have the same precision like the others."
Now you just making things up. Archer got a computer controlled compensation system. Yea some of the others got it to, but Archer got of the newest.
"I guess instead that you are swedish and a little biased right?"
No, this is called projection
Why don´t you get the facts before guessing.
I don't really see what was the criteria for this top , number of rounds per min. ? Distance , caliber ? Maybe mobility or the martial aspect ? Anyway , was fun to watch .
+Ronin T maybe check the description
+Ronin T thank u :)
The 60 km reach of the Archer, the 3 grabades in 15 seconds. The 70 Km/h speed. 21 grenades in 2.5 min. Should have placed it among the 3 top contenders. The choice is more about tactical or strategical movement and the cost of moving the system and the reach than it has to do with the capacity to move in bad terrain. Since there is few types of terrain an Archer can not cope with. The 60 km reach of the system also makes it possible to avoid swamps et cetera.
The list was updated and split in 2 different lists, tracked and wheeled. In one list there are too many differences between them.
For example in a desert (like the thumbnail of the video) the Archer loose most of the mobility and advantages
Это же исходя из каких ТТХ составлялся ТОП?!))) По идее МСТА-С должна стоять как минимум на 2 а то и на 1 месте (ничего не знаю про германскую САУ), ибо по дальности, точности, кучности и скорострельности, она куда уж более чем превосходит Сингапурскую, Британскую, Корейскую (переработки "Паладина") и уж тем более китайский "клон")))
Дак итальяшка долбоёб, ему уже и с фактами и с ТТХ не только в этом рейтиге писали на подобную тему. Чел далёк от темы и смотрит амерские киношки, лего собирать - вот его...
+Ivan Sinicky
На первом Коалиция РФ 100%
Lugansk _1965 ну она не из этой оперы. Собственно как и Мста не сравнима со всякими там Паладиннами.
Ivan Sinicky
Ну как бы САУ тоже.
Или калибры разные??
:))
Временные рамки и технологии несопоставимые. Коалицию нужно сравнивать с Крестоносцем, МСТУ с Паладинами с длинноствольным орудием (и модификации на основе этого Паладина), а то что показано в этом видео произведено на базе первых Паладинов с коротким стволом орудия (кроме разве что немецкой САУ), которые больше сопоставимы с 2С3"Акация" и ее модификациями. Собственно как-то так.
Looking at a total battle theater ,the G 6 -52 Rhino should be in the top 5.
i think the best one is number 8 serbian howitzer. it looks cheap and effective. most of this list are like main battle tanks with bigger guns. i will choose to go to battle with them instead of main battle tanks. i thimk they are superior to main battle tanks. but they must be more expensive.
+nezir çağlar This are completely different from main battle tanks mate. These are anti-encampment armament, or anti-regiment.
nezir çağlar MBT costs a lot more than $5M, lol.
That number 9 though. Probably not that practical, but it looks awesome.
Well deserved nr.1 German Engineering is unique!
Yeah....also if I should update this list...now it isn't first anymore :S
Turkey has 750 T-155 Storm and Panther Howitzers ( Turkish version of K-9 Howitzer ) ........even UK+France+Germany have no total of 750 Howitzer
Turkish Army is the best in EUROPE with Quality and Quantitiy
+Power TR no need for all this one has nuclear weapons lolllllllllllllllll
i think the archer should be higher :)i know it have longer range and faster firing rate then alot of the others and plus its fire ready in like 30s and can go every where:)plus it only have 1 driver that do everything and it can operate in biological and nucular warzones with no harm for the driver:)but nice list anyway:)
+björn sjöblom Thanks :) However it can't go anywhere.The wheeled machine are quite ever worse than tracked just for this reason.The Archer is made for it's own country and is the best for that kind of terrain and ROADS.But it can't be deployed and used in any kind of terrain/mission like the others :S
think it should work god every where:)it can go truth snow and think they should work god in desert envirment/junglesand so on to with its 6x6 and big tires and so on:)only bad thing is turning ratio :)US uses a lot of wheel vechiles in irak and so on so but yeah yeah who cares its just a list:)every vechile on it is pretty awesome so and its first build for the swedish forrest so:)like the stridsvagn s:)good in sweden and defending but not so much otherwise:)
+björn sjöblom the us used smaller more maneuverable offroad vehicles in iraq
yeah that to but the also have big personal trucks and mine trucks and stuf full of armor that weight more then the archer:)archer is just a gun and a cabine:)archer shouldnt have problems to get around only draw back is that it havent tracks so it can turn 360 turns but but its probably faster then a track vechile so its like + -0 situation:)and snow and mud is way worse condition then desert so:P
CONGRETULATION FOR THIS NICE STUDY. BUT I THING IT WAS FORGETTEN ONE OF THE most development Turkish made howitzer named "FIRTINA". The meaning of Firtina in English in TORNADO. Regards
The Firtina is only a variant of the K-9 just present in the list
Brothers, We gave you our K-2 and K-9.
T-155 😱😱😱 omg its amazing
It's modified K9 for Turkish army
Gus Scott Not a copy because it is manufactured under official license.
Lepo, lepo i Nora je opet tu :D
K9+AS90 = KRAB :) Polish (AS-90) is with 52 not just 39 calibre gun.
hey buddy, may i ask how you determent the 1st~10th?
like the penetration of the gun , car speed, turret traverse rate?
Specs
The Darth Designer yea
The Darth Designer on specs the g5 should won. And is battle hardened
wilhelm steyn On specs he didn't :/
+OniNemesis i really wish you would put in a slide after each item stating key points why you think that vehicle should be in that place so we wouldnt have to go searching around the web trying to figure out why its better than the others. It would make things alot easier and better for us. Just an idea, hopefully youll read this and consider it
+Cornholio Bunhole All the infos are ever in description btw :) Only one slide isn't enough for all the infos and adding all of them would make the video last too long.Unfortunately people don't like to watch too long videos :(
Number one should be PzH2000 and PLZ-05/PLZ-52 together. The K9 self-propelled howitzer and AS-90 self-propelled howitzer can only shoot up to 40 km maximum range. The PLZ-05/PLZ-52 can shoot up to 50 km for rocket projectile, 70 km for large aspect ratio cylindrical shells, and 100 km for WS-35 shells.
top 10 anti-air tanks
Sorry Germany K-9 Should be Number 1
But Leopard is Number 1 Tank German Steel!!!
G6 should be waaaay higher up this list. Cheaper to buy and operate, has actually been combat tested. and is just as capable in most ways, if not better. In terms of cost/capability it's hard to beat.
well i would definitely add turkish firtina (storm) on the list. much more advanced than most of these on the list.
+HHH GGG The Firtinia is only a variant of the K-9 present in the list ;)
Nicely done A+
+Jeff Donaldson thank u :)
Archer and Pz2000 are my favorite SPG. You forgot Swiss M109 KAWEST.
+Cutwoodnow Good choice and I haven't forgot it. The Kawest is only a variant of the US M109
you are a cool guy with amazing videos i love you
+juliko 5 Thanks ^_^
Where's the french AUF-1 ? It is so efficient that they use it like a normal tank or a classical howitzer. It would kick the ass of the most part of this top 🔟 howitzer.
In the specific tracked list here: ruclips.net/video/sR-yBucHMBA/видео.html
the French AMX-30 AuF1 is one of the best
+Christophe MOLUS Not so much :S
I think that an Artillery Tank is more practical as a Artillery Truck! What if there would be an attack!? I know that the German Army is training their Artillery Troops for such events and to use their Panzerhaubitze as a Tank. And for the rest, it is operatable in places which Trucks could not reach!
Not sure if I agree with systems like Primus Being here. It's basically a scaled down Paladin with Bradley and M8 parts. For it to rank above the Paladin with its 39 calibre gun is a mockery. I like the vid but we have vastly different means of rating systems I guess.
The list is simply based on specs ;)
The Darth Designer Are you suggesting it has superior specs? Have you actually looked at the specs?
vdotme Yes of course ;)
Would you care to share which specs make it better?
Since the USA now has GPS guided artillery rounds. The USA doesn't have to fire and hope for a hit. That would make the USA systems the Number 1 system in the world
I miss the Donar Howitzer.
+TremereTT wow...two german howizers that people wanna see in a top 10 ranking...some german engineers must have done something right in the past...can't say that about the Eurocopter Tiger and Eurofighter Typhoon...well, german engineers were allways great at building heavy weapons (PzKpfW VI (H) Tiger etc.) ;)
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which one is better service on the dirty / ground / land...
2 tracks or 6 wheels or 8 wheels...
wheels are lighter than 2 tracks...
or 2 tracks are lighter than wheels
Turkish Fırtına T-155 is much effective than these howitzers.
For long time active in the army since 1995 and doing good against the targets in or out of the country.
Please have a look to compare.
T-155 FIRTINA is only a licensed variant of K9 Thunder
Russian 2S35 "Coalition-SV" is in service since 2015.
lol it was revealed during the victory parade in may 2015!!! Revealed and enter in service are different things.The serial production is scheduled for this year and mass delivery in 2019. tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2092825
if considering cost-effectiveness k9&k10 should be put no.1
The list is based on specs,not costs :)
oh when i serviced millitery i was driver k2 but i even dont know k2 has amzing power lol
Is Russian 2S35 Koalitsiya SV 152mm in a different category or was it not good enough?
Koalitsiya SV is not delivered yet
the archer and and the serbian self propelled are very long . they need bigger space to position and not for shoot and scoot: shoot and hastily speed away to escape counter defilade. The rest are oversize tanks which uses tracks hence very heavy. The south african rhino is compact and can be shoot and scoot and proven to be maneuverable in all kind of terrain with its all tyres. and also fast on road and reasonably fast off- road. like the rhino.
The Archer system is actually probably the best system on the market right now for "shoot and scoot". It is light, very fast, has a superb ready to fire-speed and are constructed specifically to fire for example the Bonus-round (the highest precision rate arty ammo ever). There was a test made recently were they could fire a round into the sun roof of a car at about 30 km range...
What did the German gun do that was better than the rest ?
+arthur acuarsy proboly thats wy the swedish are in on the list the archer system can hit a car on 2 kilometers whit two shots at the same time fylly automated to lower the agle to gt the secon shot to hit the same time the germans might have souch good system them to
+arthur Exactly,tracks are slow go for no 10 G6 ,120kph 50 km range anti mine base bleed nuclear 6 wheel independent drive with tyre inflation on the run.
The PzH 2000 has automatic support for up to 5 rounds of Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact (MRSI). in burst mode it can fire three rounds in 9 seconds, ten rounds in 56 seconds, and can-depending on barrel heating-fire between 10 and 13 rounds per minute continuously.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerhaubitze_2000
Replace the tracks with the G6 wheel system then I would agree on P2H.
The Archer is susceptible to EMP. Therefore it lost. The Paladin can use GPS guided or High-Velocity rounds
where is the CEASAR? i would believe it is among the top 10 arty in the world, :-)
+MrSlytheran
Agreed! And vz.77 from Czech, too.
hej, how about adding Slovakian 155mm Self Propelled HOWITZER vz.2000 Zuzana, to your list.
+Ján Bukovinský Due there are others better :S
Russian Koalicija is actually the best according to shooting range and rpm but not in serial production yet.
Personally, i don't see a REAL need for these SPG any longer in any modern warfare that are bulky, slow and can be easily taken out by guided missiles. These things are good only for show of force and destroying stationary civilian buildings.
I think the same...those machines are obsolete now :S
Russian Military in Ukraine is utilizing them quite nicely in conjunction with missiles. Depends how they are used.
Russian military used them as a show of force because they face no oppositions from the Ukrainian army.
2 Ukrainian Mechanized Battalions decimated by a combination of Rockets and Self Propeeled Artillery using thermobaric and cluster munitions. Google ' Russian combat tactics in Ukraine'. They were used very effectively in conjunction with drones for isr. Its an interesting read.
Hi Jack. There is one point that must be made clear. During a war/battle, facing strong opposition vs. facing lack of or no opposition , the aftermath can be very different. The one and only mistake that the Ukrainian army made was that they have under-estimated the rebels and presumed that the rebels could only do so much, without realising that the Russians were playing active roles in the conflict. Ukraine had not declared war on Russia. That was the root cause of having 2 Ukrainian battalions decimated. They didn't expect such a strong response from Russia in which their targets are merely the rebels. If a bullet or missile is fired directly to Russian interests like what the Turkey did, the outcome would be very different than what it is today. By then, do you think the SPGs could have any function without the risks of being taken out by Ukrainian SU-27?
Best howitzer T-155 (Fırtına) made in Turkey
The Firtina is only a variant of the K-9 just present in the list :)
Fuck T-155 completely different motor only Samsung Techwin Company-owned
ryu hoshi Completely different WHERE exactly?
The T-155 only differences are the turret design and parts of the chassis....
Then the electronics is the Turkish one (like the navigation system, and electronic systems) but this doesn't mean it's different.The equipments reach the same purpose...and if we want to be precise the T-155 Fırtına lacks in some features present on the K9 like the commander's digital panoramic sight....
i'm sorry i just don't see m109 on 7. especially when it's above archer. shouldn't it be at highest 10?
Why not? :)
The Darth Designer m109, though it had multiple modification, is extremely old. if my guess is correct, about 50 years old, right? archer can fire way more shell than m109 under 10 mins. it's just my humble opinion. i'm no expert on military so please correct me if i'm wrong.
kdg5636 Yes the basic machine is 50 years old but it was updated more times during those years :) Also the abrams and leopards are very old tanks but still some of the best now days :) Newer doesn't mean automatically better.The latest m109 variant have new loader and can fire every NATO shell from the old ones to the newest smart rounds :) Of course the age is starting to be a problem and (in fact) isn't so high in the list...soon probably will be out without other upgrades but FOR NOW (2015 at least) is still quite good!
#10 wasn't a South African demonstration but the UAE
Top Anti-Air Tanks/Systems
I guess.
+Alessandro Just What?
+Alessandro Just This make no sense with my comment
+Alessandro Just If a tank gets hit by a 155 or 152 mm shell it's day will be spoiled, and I sure as hell wouldn't like to be inside the tank when it happened.
+Alessandro Just I know that they arent good for planes. i mean it for a new video
Do a Top 10 IFVs.
+NodMan Just made the past year...maybe an update/ upgrade :D
+OniNemesis Yah you could because I know a lot has changed with reactive armor and just overall crew weaponry. I know you mixed APCs and IFVs in that video too (like mashed em together in the same class). :P
You could also do a Top 10 for water landing/take off (seaplanes) military variants. I know some of the Jet ones are neat, even if they are older.
Like all Chinese fire-works, it will blow up.