Yeah it’s definitely rough out of the box, I opened mine up put some superlube inside and went to town with an old beat up black and decker drill. Over the course of week doing this periodically I got it to break in quite well.
I think the Husky marketing folks have been the most transparent about this. The have a set that comes with 144-position ratchets, and that is exactly how they say it. I think the Gearwrench 120xp is pretty much the same way, also the same manufacturer (apex). Personally I've found 90-tooth to be a pretty good compromise between tooth count and strength
That is how GearWrench markets it too, and probably why they say XP and not T like they do after 84 and 90 on the head stamping. Though it should have been obvious this wasnt 180 teeth on the anvil, it would need to be a really big anvil or it would need some sort of revolutionary pawl mechanism to give it enough engagement. Snap-on is already pushing the envelope with 100 teeth on the anvil and they had to come up with a patent-pending new pawl design to make it work, has 10 teeth engaged.
Yea i hear ya!! 90 tooth is the sweet spot!! 180 positions i dont think you need,will it hold up, i dont know,will see!! thanks my friend for your thoughts on this ratchet!!!
The gun metal Is very nice looking , But even the gear wrench people don't claim , A 120 tooth , They will tell you it's sixty tooth , with dual pawls for more positions, Take care Jeff.
Looks nice but time will tell. Honestly, ever since Craftsman was sold to Stanley, I have been completely disappointed in the way that Stanley has handled craftsman branded tools, it seems they just can't make up their mind on what to do with it or they just thought that the name itself was going to be a money maker. It could have been if they would have kept the tools made here in the USA
Well, they made a boatload of money shipping manufacturing overseas. People that knew what was going on saw the quality deteriorating but the average Joe that goes to the hardware store to pick up a screwdriver still thinks they are a good brand. Their name has taken them far but now you see them trying to start bringing back ‘quality’. They sold out everything to make their stock price increase….same story as many (used to be) great American companies.
They werent the ones who offshored it. Sears did that several years before SBD took over in the wake of Danaher becoming Apex. And according to their most recent 10Q, at approximately a 3% royalty rate that they have to pay to the holdinf company that holds Sears now, the $31.3 million theyve forked over means Craftsman alone has already generated over a billion in sales this year, with 1 quarter of the year left to go. Assuming sales stay roughly the same as their average the first 3 quarters, thats nearly $1.4B in sales. Safe to say the brand is making money.
@@AToolWithToolsthat's gonna fall on def ears brother. The bottom line is that craftsman are making money, regardless if they messed up their return to USA manufacturing. The problem with Stanley is they own too many brands, so they lack the uniqueness and attention the Craftsman brand requires. Everything ends up bleeding into eachother. Just take rbrt as an example, Stanley offers it in 4 different brands at 4 different price points.
Good review. Craftsman's new Overdrive Series hand tools are a great value for the price and these Overdrive ratchets are really smooth. Lowes carrying a big selection of Craftsman Tools is a game changer and this is kind of reminiscent of the good old days at Sears. Craftsman's V20 Brushless power tools are really impressive by today's standards of cordless power tools. Most of my cordless power tools are Milwaukee but I decided to try some of the other Craftsman brushless stuff.
I picked up the 1/4 & 1/2 a few months ago. They seem to holding up and preforming well enough. Not really out shining any of my regular 72 or 90 Tooth ratchets, although my use probably isn't a good rigorous testing. Honestly my smoothest one is a Am-pro(I think) from one of the parts stores I picked up many years ago on a road trip repair. It's got the least back drag of any rachet I've held. But these do look sharp in my opinion. I tend to gravitate to the different. I also picked up the gun metal metric & SAE 11 piece long combo wrenches. Those are also nice in the hand and have been preforming well also.
Thanks for giving your thoughts on them after using them!! i just bought it to do a review on it, i think they are putting to much thought in the higher tooth counts, i always prefere 72, or 90!! altough i do like the xp 120 gearwrench!! keep the feedback coming,i love hearing what you guys like and use!!!
I agree about the "higher tooth count the better" marketing going on being a bit rubbish. I still reach for some 36 tooth ones every now and then for hi torque applications. But i do love my gw 90 and 120 for tighter spots. Any higher than 120 and i lose confidence in its strength.
36 tooth are work horses,i have williams Ratchets with 36 tooth!! and i own like you, gearwrench 90 and xp120 which i like!! thanks for joining in and sharing your thoughts my friend!!
Nice ratchet. I like the gunmetal grey. Too bad Craftsman has gotten "gimmicky" with the 180 tooth b.s. wish they'd get back to the basics, with good affordable tools. Thanks for the video, Jeff!
These are better than good affordable tools, these are great affordable tools and it only took me one look to stop myself from wasting my money on tool truck. Overdrive has features that you wont find in ANY other tools. At least 1 lol. Edit. I typed that shit bout the tooltruck but im still going to get the specialty tools from there that i cant find anywhere else or no patience to order
The only gimmick in overdrive is the ratchets. Just an fyi craftsman has always had gimmicky tools 😅, especially for fathers day sales 😂. Remember the days walking into sears and looking at silly robogrip pliers or that extended twist ratchet they had. Heck those RBRT before rbrt sockets, wrenches and ratchets(extreme grip). Funny enough out of those two gems that came out, the ratchet and the screwdriver that had the diamond coating for grip.
I returned mine because too much backdrag. I got home and tested on my wood plank i use that has bolts and nuts i installed. What i like are very quiet and smooth ratchets. This one and the 3 other V series ratchets all had serious back drag. But i did keep the 1/4 180t. That ratchet is so smooth cant even hear it. Im sure if you looked inside then you saw how beefy and thick the anvil gear is? Very good ratchet! They just need to lighten up the pawl spring tention.
Thats some good info my friend,thanks for sharing that with us!!! im not sure what im going to do with this one,lol!!! i have over a 100 ratchets,lol!!! thanks my friend for joining in!!
It's not a bad looking ratchet. Will have to see if it's just gimmicky or the real deal over time. Seems reasonably priced for a new designed tool. I might pick one up one of these days myself. Thanks Jeff.
I tell you, I really like the ratchets that came in the USA made kits at Lowes. Admittedly I am a huge fan of the quick release, that is all I try to buy, the only exception being Williams.
I will say that the new Craftsman line of ratchets are nice looking. Especially the Gunmetal Chrome. The ratchet mechanisms are way smoother than the old satin raised panel ratchets. I feel that the heads are kind of on the bulky side when compared to the old raised panel ratchets or other popular brands. They should get the job done just fine for the average weekend warrior. There are a lot better options at the $38 price point.
craftsman warranty is great till you return 100 power tools in 6 months. I am very hard on my 20 volt tools. I have broke more batteries then the average person because the tool falls of the edge on the pit of falls off a roof. The screws on the batteries are just little to short and the battery breaks apart after few 8 feet drops on concrete.
Wow papa,thats a few broken tools,lol!! today tools arnt made to last forever like they were 50 years ago!! i broke a few milwaukee batteries myself!!!
I noticed on the 1/4" I picked up that the mechanism is pretty smooth, but the backdrag is more than I expected. I kind of like the handle and the finish is novel. As far a tooth count, is it the more the merrier? It seems that it is only a slightly general rule that higher tooth count reduces arc swing but none of the high position number ratchets math actually works out. For example, a 90 degree ratchet may wind up 15-20 degrees of actual measured arc swing in an actual test. For me anymore, the backdrag, the stability of the on/off switch, the head size, and the comfort in my hand are now what matter. I have a couple Carlyle stubby ratchets, one 1/4" and the other 3/8" drive. Both are "only" 60 tooth but both meet all my criteria. I go to them over other more expensive higher tooth count ratchets I have.
I like how you think when talking about ratchets,im not sure if i will like this ratchet after i use it for few months!! t think tooth count is getting out of hand with how many postions you really need!! back in the early 80s all i used were 36 tooth count craftsman ratchets and i can honestly say i never had to many problems with the low tooth count!! in todays world i prefere mostly 72 or 90 tooth, but sometimes ill use my williams 36 tooth!! thanks my friend for your take on it,i love the feedback!!
Thanks,i buy all my own tools, nobody sponsor me,and i will always be honest with my reviews!! i do a review when i first buy them,first impression and a review 3 months or so after use!! thank for your support! stay tuned!!
Nice video Jeff. Think Craftsman just needs to focus getting things right in one area and making sure it hits home instead of going in all different directions. Their tools have been downhill for ages, even before the big sell off, quality hasn’t been there even some of the US stuff, would experience a lot of stuff breaking back in the day. They need to send their designers to work out in the field or something, starting to see the same with SK as well.
Yea i cant argue that,its like they have no direction,pro series,v series and the overdrive series,whats next!!! there prices arnt cheap either!! i buy there tools to do reviews on but other than that i dont think i would be interested!! i dont think they will ever reach there former glory!! SK is the same! when i was young in the early 80s both brands were what i would buy 90% of the time!! im sure lots of folks can relate to that!!!!
I just bought the 80-piece overdrive set with the 3/8 and 1/4 ratchets. I bought it at Lowes. They had the price marked wrong and I got the set really cheap. Both ratchets were overly stiff with too much back drag, especially the 3/8. So, I removed the torx screws and added a little dab of tacky grease to them and now they work great. They now are very smooth with very little back drag. It made a huge difference. When I opened them up, there was a little oily lube in them but not enough. The sockets are well made with relevant sizes. They fit a bolt/nut really well without any excessive slop or backlash. Out of the 80 pieces, there are 27 various small driver bits that is included to pad the numbers. I didn't get hurt for paying $50.
I just swapped out my old USA made 1/4 ratchet that was skipping to for one of these in 1/4. It was the most expensive ratchet on the shelf and thought I’d give it a shot. They swapped it with no issue
I own tons of craftsman tools!! i grew up with them!!! go on my front channel home page and click on the green tables video, i really think youll enjoy the video!!! take care!!!
Yea i think there beating a dead horse with these high tooth counts,i think anything over xp 120 gearwrench isnt going to help you anymore in the real world,just my thoughts!!! thanks my friend for joining in!!!
"Not too shabby"... If you're looking for quality or real innovation, this ratchet probably isn't for you... I personally think these high # teeth count/ positions have turned into mainly a marketing ploy!
Yea i think they do put to much stock into tooth count!! jeepers when i was a young guy in the early 80s i thought craftsman 36 tooth was nice!! now most pro tech wont give a 36 the time of day!!
Well, the Ratchet does have a 2 degree arc swing, so 180 tooth or 180 position is kind of meaningless. I am actually glad it's a 90 tooth dual pawl design making 180 positions. I decided to buy this just to put the ratchets through the ringer cause I didn't think a 180 tooth ratchet would hold any kind of meaningful torque. I figured that 1/2 inch drive ratchet on some rusty lugs would do the trick. Thought for sure it would fail. It performed quite well. I don't think any ratchet should ever be a "real" 180 tooth single pawl design. I feel like there is no quality in 180 teeth and that they will break quite easily. I am a Die setter in a Powdered metal factory. I work with big multi action presses 750 ton, 880 ton 1000 ton etc. My tools go through some abuse. This is essentially a mac rbrt set rebranded as craftsman by stanley black and decker anyways.
Hi joe thanks for sharing your experence with the 180 craftsman!! im suprised it could handle any amount of torque like that!! stay tuned,there a give away in a few days!!!
The Gearwrench 120xp only has 60 teeth & uses two 1/2 width pawls. A lot of folks think it has 120 teeth, as well. Personally, I wouldn't have either the Gearwrench or the Craftsman.
this is a great desisn--60 tooth strength and 120 fineness mac had a great one like this also and discontinued it yrs ago-macs was 2 45 tooth in same head 1/2 tooth offset
Yea its the sweet spot no doubt!! i think way to much is put on high tooth counts,anything over 100, altough i like my xp 120 gearwrench!! thanks my friend for jpining in!
The only duel paw set up I don’t mind are the gearwrench 120xp. For high tooth count I like the new Cornwell 120 tooth ratchet that is actually 120 teeth. For the most part I’ll stick with my 72-90 tooth ratchets and a few 32 tooth ratchets when I really need to force something loose. I’ll probably pick one up sooner or later to mess around with it. I can’t help it I have a ratchet addiction.
All I have to say is they have LIFETIME WARRANTY REPLACEMENt! Just found that out today bc I broke my 36tooth 1/2inch ratch from like the 80s, called and got free replacement!
That is one CHUNKY head on that ratchet! Thick Width, Depth & Thickness. These "higher tooth counts" I think have reached the point of diminishing returns. - Time for the tool companies to move along to their next 'fad'.
Even the Craftsman 72s are kinda chunky for what they are in my opinion. You can find 80+ teeth with smaller dimensions in many places now. Even those Titan 90-tooth cheapos at the auto parts store managed to figure it out. Or you could always go with a classic roundhead, Wright dual-pawl on a 3/8 gives you 82 positions and a contour handle one has a nice thin neck. And theyre smaller than the Craftsman 72 equivalent without all that bottom end hanging there, combined with the thinner neck means if theres an obstruction right next to the ratchet head you get a lot more wiggle with the Wright.
Whoever decided to market that as 180 tooth needs to be fired. That's false in a way that rubs people the wrong way. 180 positions, sure; but calling it 180 tooth is a lie. Teeth are countable, and if you count them it doesn't add up. Positions are countable too and 180 check out there. How they could mess up the distinction between teeth and positions is beyond me.
Probably doesnt have much to do with COO. The American-made 72T ratchets with American-drawn 4140 Cr-Mo steel they were just making were still as chunky as the ones theyre making across the Pacific. Gearwrench figured it out and their stuff is made overseas. But, they patented it, so SBD was left to figure out their own way or to try to license the patent. They can always come back in 2032 when the Apex patent on their pawl setup expires and give that a go.
Me and my son were at lowes checking these out a few days ago and the backdrag to me felt high. Thanks for the video Jeff!
Very high. I returned mine
Yeah it’s definitely rough out of the box, I opened mine up put some superlube inside and went to town with an old beat up black and decker drill. Over the course of week doing this periodically I got it to break in quite well.
I dont know if this will hold up! its not as smooth as a xp120 gearwrench!
I think the Husky marketing folks have been the most transparent about this. The have a set that comes with 144-position ratchets, and that is exactly how they say it. I think the Gearwrench 120xp is pretty much the same way, also the same manufacturer (apex).
Personally I've found 90-tooth to be a pretty good compromise between tooth count and strength
That is how GearWrench markets it too, and probably why they say XP and not T like they do after 84 and 90 on the head stamping.
Though it should have been obvious this wasnt 180 teeth on the anvil, it would need to be a really big anvil or it would need some sort of revolutionary pawl mechanism to give it enough engagement. Snap-on is already pushing the envelope with 100 teeth on the anvil and they had to come up with a patent-pending new pawl design to make it work, has 10 teeth engaged.
Yea i hear ya!! 90 tooth is the sweet spot!! 180 positions i dont think you need,will it hold up, i dont know,will see!! thanks my friend for your thoughts on this ratchet!!!
The gun metal Is very nice looking , But even the gear wrench people don't claim , A 120 tooth , They will tell you it's sixty tooth , with dual pawls for more positions, Take care Jeff.
Yea the gearwrench is the same concept,i think the gearwrench is smoother!!
Looks nice but time will tell. Honestly, ever since Craftsman was sold to Stanley, I have been completely disappointed in the way that Stanley has handled craftsman branded tools, it seems they just can't make up their mind on what to do with it or they just thought that the name itself was going to be a money maker. It could have been if they would have kept the tools made here in the USA
Well, they made a boatload of money shipping manufacturing overseas. People that knew what was going on saw the quality deteriorating but the average Joe that goes to the hardware store to pick up a screwdriver still thinks they are a good brand. Their name has taken them far but now you see them trying to start bringing back ‘quality’. They sold out everything to make their stock price increase….same story as many (used to be) great American companies.
They werent the ones who offshored it. Sears did that several years before SBD took over in the wake of Danaher becoming Apex.
And according to their most recent 10Q, at approximately a 3% royalty rate that they have to pay to the holdinf company that holds Sears now, the $31.3 million theyve forked over means Craftsman alone has already generated over a billion in sales this year, with 1 quarter of the year left to go. Assuming sales stay roughly the same as their average the first 3 quarters, thats nearly $1.4B in sales.
Safe to say the brand is making money.
Yea its another sad story!! usa tools are getting harder to find by the second!!
remember, stanly has tool plants and tool companies allover the world to make quality tools-- facom in france is a great example
@@AToolWithToolsthat's gonna fall on def ears brother. The bottom line is that craftsman are making money, regardless if they messed up their return to USA manufacturing. The problem with Stanley is they own too many brands, so they lack the uniqueness and attention the Craftsman brand requires. Everything ends up bleeding into eachother. Just take rbrt as an example, Stanley offers it in 4 different brands at 4 different price points.
Good review. Craftsman's new Overdrive Series hand tools are a great value for the price and these Overdrive ratchets are really smooth. Lowes carrying a big selection of Craftsman Tools is a game changer and this is kind of reminiscent of the good old days at Sears. Craftsman's V20 Brushless power tools are really impressive by today's standards of cordless power tools. Most of my cordless power tools are Milwaukee but I decided to try some of the other Craftsman brushless stuff.
Thanks my friend for joining in and sharing your opinion with us!!l
I picked up the 1/4 & 1/2 a few months ago. They seem to holding up and preforming well enough. Not really out shining any of my regular 72 or 90 Tooth ratchets, although my use probably isn't a good rigorous testing. Honestly my smoothest one is a Am-pro(I think) from one of the parts stores I picked up many years ago on a road trip repair. It's got the least back drag of any rachet I've held. But these do look sharp in my opinion. I tend to gravitate to the different. I also picked up the gun metal metric & SAE 11 piece long combo wrenches. Those are also nice in the hand and have been preforming well also.
Thanks for giving your thoughts on them after using them!! i just bought it to do a review on it, i think they are putting to much thought in the higher tooth counts, i always prefere 72, or 90!! altough i do like the xp 120 gearwrench!! keep the feedback coming,i love hearing what you guys like and use!!!
Nice! You found one at your Lowe’s… I literally just looked for one at my Lowe’s because I wanted to see what the deal was with it inside
I bought it on lowes website!!! it has duel stacked pawls,90 tooth inside,i took it apart!! will see if it holds up!!!
I agree about the "higher tooth count the better" marketing going on being a bit rubbish. I still reach for some 36 tooth ones every now and then for hi torque applications. But i do love my gw 90 and 120 for tighter spots. Any higher than 120 and i lose confidence in its strength.
36 tooth are work horses,i have williams Ratchets with 36 tooth!! and i own like you, gearwrench 90 and xp120 which i like!! thanks for joining in and sharing your thoughts my friend!!
Thank you Sir 👍 I'd love to hear what you think about this ratchet after 3or6 months
Ill do a follow up in the future!!! i like the gun metal finish!! not sure about the 180 positions!! stay tuned!!
Jeff, on the stacked dual pawls I am always concerned on strength when it action is moving from one pawl to the other pawl.
Thats a good question, i will use this and not babey it,if i keep it,lol!!
Nice ratchet. I like the gunmetal grey.
Too bad Craftsman has gotten "gimmicky" with the 180 tooth b.s. wish they'd get back to the basics, with good affordable tools.
Thanks for the video, Jeff!
Yea there beating a dead horse with that tooth count!! what going to be next? thanks for joining in my friend!!
These are better than good affordable tools, these are great affordable tools and it only took me one look to stop myself from wasting my money on tool truck. Overdrive has features that you wont find in ANY other tools. At least 1 lol. Edit. I typed that shit bout the tooltruck but im still going to get the specialty tools from there that i cant find anywhere else or no patience to order
The only gimmick in overdrive is the ratchets. Just an fyi craftsman has always had gimmicky tools 😅, especially for fathers day sales 😂. Remember the days walking into sears and looking at silly robogrip pliers or that extended twist ratchet they had. Heck those RBRT before rbrt sockets, wrenches and ratchets(extreme grip). Funny enough out of those two gems that came out, the ratchet and the screwdriver that had the diamond coating for grip.
I said the same about the handles. I am so use to the comfort grip that the metal handles feel strange to me.
Yea the flat handle takes time to get used to,no doubt!! will see!!
I returned mine because too much backdrag. I got home and tested on my wood plank i use that has bolts and nuts i installed. What i like are very quiet and smooth ratchets. This one and the 3 other V series ratchets all had serious back drag. But i did keep the 1/4 180t. That ratchet is so smooth cant even hear it. Im sure if you looked inside then you saw how beefy and thick the anvil gear is? Very good ratchet! They just need to lighten up the pawl spring tention.
Thats some good info my friend,thanks for sharing that with us!!! im not sure what im going to do with this one,lol!!! i have over a 100 ratchets,lol!!! thanks my friend for joining in!!
I’ve been wondering if there’s a way to reduce back drag.
It's not a bad looking ratchet. Will have to see if it's just gimmicky or the real deal over time. Seems reasonably priced for a new designed tool. I might pick one up one of these days myself. Thanks Jeff.
Yea ill have to use it for a few months to see how it holds up, i think 180 positions is a bit much!!thanks my friend!!
I tell you, I really like the ratchets that came in the USA made kits at Lowes. Admittedly I am a huge fan of the quick release, that is all I try to buy, the only exception being Williams.
I whish i had got the usa kit,would of been good video!! stay tuned!!
I will say that the new Craftsman line of ratchets are nice looking. Especially the Gunmetal Chrome. The ratchet mechanisms are way smoother than the old satin raised panel ratchets. I feel that the heads are kind of on the bulky side when compared to the old raised panel ratchets or other popular brands. They should get the job done just fine for the average weekend warrior. There are a lot better options at the $38 price point.
Yea i bought this from a request believe it or not!! not sure what to make of it !!
Properly used, that would work out just fine.
I will have to use it for awhile to see how it holds up!!
craftsman warranty is great till you return 100 power tools in 6 months. I am very hard on my 20 volt tools. I have broke more batteries then the average person because the tool falls of the edge on the pit of falls off a roof. The screws on the batteries are just little to short and the battery breaks apart after few 8 feet drops on concrete.
Wow papa,thats a few broken tools,lol!! today tools arnt made to last forever like they were 50 years ago!! i broke a few milwaukee batteries myself!!!
I noticed on the 1/4" I picked up that the mechanism is pretty smooth, but the backdrag is more than I expected. I kind of like the handle and the finish is novel. As far a tooth count, is it the more the merrier? It seems that it is only a slightly general rule that higher tooth count reduces arc swing but none of the high position number ratchets math actually works out. For example, a 90 degree ratchet may wind up 15-20 degrees of actual measured arc swing in an actual test. For me anymore, the backdrag, the stability of the on/off switch, the head size, and the comfort in my hand are now what matter. I have a couple Carlyle stubby ratchets, one 1/4" and the other 3/8" drive. Both are "only" 60 tooth but both meet all my criteria. I go to them over other more expensive higher tooth count ratchets I have.
I like how you think when talking about ratchets,im not sure if i will like this ratchet after i use it for few months!! t think tooth count is getting out of hand with how many postions you really need!! back in the early 80s all i used were 36 tooth count craftsman ratchets and i can honestly say i never had to many problems with the low tooth count!! in todays world i prefere mostly 72 or 90 tooth, but sometimes ill use my williams 36 tooth!! thanks my friend for your take on it,i love the feedback!!
Thank you for the review, Jeff! Good looking, but rather chunky…
Yes it is!!! not sure if ill even use it!!! just what i need another ratchet,lol!!!
What a chonker. I like the smoky chrome color, but it looks more like a club rather than a ratchet.
Yup,its a chunky monkey!! it is a cool color!! thanks my friend for jumping in!!
I like your channel. You seem fair and honest.
Thanks,i buy all my own tools, nobody sponsor me,and i will always be honest with my reviews!! i do a review when i first buy them,first impression and a review 3 months or so after use!! thank for your support! stay tuned!!
Nice video Jeff. Think Craftsman just needs to focus getting things right in one area and making sure it hits home instead of going in all different directions. Their tools have been downhill for ages, even before the big sell off, quality hasn’t been there even some of the US stuff, would experience a lot of stuff breaking back in the day. They need to send their designers to work out in the field or something, starting to see the same with SK as well.
Yea i cant argue that,its like they have no direction,pro series,v series and the overdrive series,whats next!!! there prices arnt cheap either!! i buy there tools to do reviews on but other than that i dont think i would be interested!! i dont think they will ever reach there former glory!! SK is the same! when i was young in the early 80s both brands were what i would buy 90% of the time!! im sure lots of folks can relate to that!!!!
Looks nice but for some reason the head looks huge thanks Jeff for your opinion
It is bulky, I should of stressed that more than I did!!
one of us need to try out the craftsman overdrive wrench set
Its on my list!! ill probably to a standard combo wrench series at some point!!
I just bought the 80-piece overdrive set with the 3/8 and 1/4 ratchets. I bought it at Lowes. They had the price marked wrong and I got the set really cheap.
Both ratchets were overly stiff with too much back drag, especially the 3/8. So, I removed the torx screws and added a little dab of tacky grease to them and now they work great. They now are very smooth with very little back drag. It made a huge difference. When I opened them up, there was a little oily lube in them but not enough. The sockets are well made with relevant sizes. They fit a bolt/nut really well without any excessive slop or backlash. Out of the 80 pieces, there are 27 various small driver bits that is included to pad the numbers. I didn't get hurt for paying $50.
my question is how much torque will it handle.
Probably not much, time will tell!! thanks papa!
I just swapped out my old USA made 1/4 ratchet that was skipping to for one of these in 1/4. It was the most expensive ratchet on the shelf and thought I’d give it a shot. They swapped it with no issue
Thanks my friend for sharing the info!! good to know!! stay tuned!!
It’s hard to hear those ratchets sometimes…any way to turn them closer to the mic?
In the future ill get closer to mic,thanks for the great feedack,this helps me get better!! stay tuned for the winners!!
I'm a mechanic, my to go brand is Craftsman, and I've never been disappointed.
I don't know what people complain about Craftsman so much 😕
I own tons of craftsman tools!! i grew up with them!!! go on my front channel home page and click on the green tables video, i really think youll enjoy the video!!! take care!!!
@jefftovani5535 Thank you!
I will.
It's really nice but it's missing a made in USA stamp 😢 I have made in Taiwan rachet they are pretty good have not broken one yet
Made in usa would be nice!! im not sure if this will hold up,time will tell!!! stay tuned!!
180 tooth is correct. It involves mathematics to determine 180 tooth positions between the anvil and pawls. It isn’t listed as 180 tooth anvil.
No wonder why i flunked math in high school,lol!!! thanks for joining in!!
The more tooth, the less torque it's gonna have, soon 1/2" ratchets gonna be equivalent to 1/4"ratchets
Yea i think there beating a dead horse with these high tooth counts,i think anything over xp 120 gearwrench isnt going to help you anymore in the real world,just my thoughts!!! thanks my friend for joining in!!!
90 + 90 = 180, so technically it is as advertised. Een as you spin it slowly you can hear the double "tap" of the dual pawls.
"Not too shabby"... If you're looking for quality or real innovation, this ratchet probably isn't for you... I personally think these high # teeth count/ positions have turned into mainly a marketing ploy!
Yea i think they do put to much stock into tooth count!! jeepers when i was a young guy in the early 80s i thought craftsman 36 tooth was nice!! now most pro tech wont give a 36 the time of day!!
Well, the Ratchet does have a 2 degree arc swing, so 180 tooth or 180 position is kind of meaningless. I am actually glad it's a 90 tooth dual pawl design making 180 positions. I decided to buy this just to put the ratchets through the ringer cause I didn't think a 180 tooth ratchet would hold any kind of meaningful torque. I figured that 1/2 inch drive ratchet on some rusty lugs would do the trick. Thought for sure it would fail. It performed quite well. I don't think any ratchet should ever be a "real" 180 tooth single pawl design. I feel like there is no quality in 180 teeth and that they will break quite easily. I am a Die setter in a Powdered metal factory. I work with big multi action presses 750 ton, 880 ton 1000 ton etc. My tools go through some abuse. This is essentially a mac rbrt set rebranded as craftsman by stanley black and decker anyways.
Hi joe thanks for sharing your experence with the 180 craftsman!! im suprised it could handle any amount of torque like that!! stay tuned,there a give away in a few days!!!
The Gearwrench 120xp only has 60 teeth & uses two 1/2 width pawls. A lot of folks think it has 120 teeth, as well. Personally, I wouldn't have either the Gearwrench or the Craftsman.
Yea i hear ya, my sweet spot has alway been,72, or 90 tooth!! thanks for joining in my friend!!
this is a great desisn--60 tooth strength and 120 fineness mac had a great one like this also and discontinued it yrs ago-macs was 2 45 tooth in same head 1/2 tooth offset
I completely agree…72-80 tooth are smooth and strong
Yea its the sweet spot no doubt!! i think way to much is put on high tooth counts,anything over 100, altough i like my xp 120 gearwrench!! thanks my friend for jpining in!
The only duel paw set up I don’t mind are the gearwrench 120xp. For high tooth count I like the new Cornwell 120 tooth ratchet that is actually 120 teeth. For the most part I’ll stick with my 72-90 tooth ratchets and a few 32 tooth ratchets when I really need to force something loose. I’ll probably pick one up sooner or later to mess around with it. I can’t help it I have a ratchet addiction.
Yea ratchets are addicting!!! my colloction is up there,lol!! not sure if ill even use this one!!
All I have to say is they have LIFETIME WARRANTY REPLACEMENt! Just found that out today bc I broke my 36tooth 1/2inch ratch from like the 80s, called and got free replacement!
Great to hear there honoring the warranty,thanks for sharing my friend,stay tuned!!
Really like the new craftsman line but i hate the fact that we have to go to Lowes to purchase them.The way they handle warranty claims is a joke
Yea i hear ya,i bought this one on lowes website!!! hope all is well jay!!!
That is one CHUNKY head on that ratchet! Thick Width, Depth & Thickness. These "higher tooth counts" I think have reached the point of diminishing returns. - Time for the tool companies to move along to their next 'fad'.
Even the Craftsman 72s are kinda chunky for what they are in my opinion. You can find 80+ teeth with smaller dimensions in many places now. Even those Titan 90-tooth cheapos at the auto parts store managed to figure it out.
Or you could always go with a classic roundhead, Wright dual-pawl on a 3/8 gives you 82 positions and a contour handle one has a nice thin neck. And theyre smaller than the Craftsman 72 equivalent without all that bottom end hanging there, combined with the thinner neck means if theres an obstruction right next to the ratchet head you get a lot more wiggle with the Wright.
I agree with ya,the tooth count has been going on to long!! whats next,thats a good question!! will have to wait and see!!!
I love it
Thanks my friend for joining in,stay tuned!!
I’m still not sure if I like it and I got one recently.
I hear ya!! i didnt care for the handle!! had lots a backdrag as wel!! thanks for joining in!!
Whoever decided to market that as 180 tooth needs to be fired. That's false in a way that rubs people the wrong way. 180 positions, sure; but calling it 180 tooth is a lie. Teeth are countable, and if you count them it doesn't add up. Positions are countable too and 180 check out there. How they could mess up the distinction between teeth and positions is beyond me.
Yea its deceiving to the consumer,no doubt!! dont know what to make of this ratchet,ill have to use it for a few months to see!! stay tuned!!!
Not sure what to think of this rathcet really....
I feel the same way,i will put it through the paces to see if it holds up!! not sure why you would need 180 positions!! stay tuned!
Tell craftsman your gonna sue them for false advertising if they dont give you ever tool you want for free lol
Thats a good idea!! i think there beating a dead horse with these high tooth counts!
Made in China or Taiwan?
That one is Taiwan!! thanks for your feedback!!
The Head Is Way To Big!!! Another Overseas Flop For Craftsman!!!
Probably doesnt have much to do with COO. The American-made 72T ratchets with American-drawn 4140 Cr-Mo steel they were just making were still as chunky as the ones theyre making across the Pacific.
Gearwrench figured it out and their stuff is made overseas. But, they patented it, so SBD was left to figure out their own way or to try to license the patent. They can always come back in 2032 when the Apex patent on their pawl setup expires and give that a go.
It is big,no doubt!!will see what it will take after using for a few months!!
Tbh, there are 180 teeth. 90+90 180
There are 90 teeth,alternating dual pawl that make it,180 positions!!
@@jefftovani5535 ive busted open dual pawls before, my old kolbalt. I keep forgetting how components look like.