Great video! The problem with tool sets like that is they put too much "filler" to bring up the tool count in the set (bits) Why don't they include pliers and maybe a ball peen hammer?
naw just don't include filler items, or at least include the RBRT/Xtract or whatever the Facom version are called bits. Comparing the price to the Mac/facom/usag Variants, yeah its a good value.
Nice review. It was entertaining and informative. There's a dude on FB marketplace selling this exact kit new for $150. I might go for it if it's available... And I don't even wrench much beyond maintenance 😂. I was hoping you guys demonstrated the 180 ratchet more but it was good 👍
I would assume that is a 90 tooth gear with stacked pawls, and those wrenches are essentially MAC rebranded believe it or not. I think the days of picking on imports are over, everyone has caught up. Decent kit, good video young men 👍
nope, non of the overdrive is MAC rebranded. They just applied the RBRT design to the gunmetal crome line of tools Craftsman offers. the ratchet is a updated 120T gunmetal chrome ratchet. its a 90t gear double stack just like the 120xp gear wrench, to get the 180t. MAC/Proto 90t is completely different design and fully made in the usa.
You were turning the wrench the wrong way on the open end, it's not as big of a deal if it isn't overly tightened but it's double important on the nonslip style wrenched where the serrations are placed
came to say this, looks like open end may have worked if it was flipped the correct way. Sidenote: That Garage/Trailer/Abandoned school is badass. Keep it up guys!
Thanks guys, this was fun and informative and loved getting a look into Kurt's "adapted" traveling tool kit. Hoping to use some of your guidance (and merchandise) to help me set up my own!
Back in the 70's and 80's, my dad was a big craftsman guy. When I started buying my own tools I did the same like mid 99's. Well, about a month or so back I was out and need a pair of channel lock plyers. I stopped in Lowe's because I didn't want to drive the 25 miles home and bought a pair of craftsman. They looked better than the ones I had at home. Build quality IMO no better the half the other tools out there. Do I think I'll buy Craftsman again? Hard question.
Kurt and Nick I love the “dramatic” opening you guys should have been actors, just kidding. I ended up getting a set of the overdrive SAE wrenches after I saw another RUclips guy Jeff’s garage adventures talk about having 6 point combination wrenches for stubborn bolts. According to what I read the wrenches are comparable to the RBRT from Mac. I don’t know if that applies to the sockets
I have forty years working on car and Craftsman has always been good to me and always fixed my car never ben lubricated by a snap on dealer never needed
Metrinch brand wrenches and sockets were designed to use the flat of the nut instead of the edge. Why they never skyrocketed to the top of the heap i'll never know.
It is very similar to MAC RBRT sockets and wrenches. Minus the price tag. I wish they'd sell individual socket sets rather than a kit. Those sockets would be good to have as a backup. I prefer to use regular sockets so you don't round fasteners. I think if you do encounter rounded stuff, these sockets would definitely be good to have.
Although it's just an aesthetic thing, I love the gunmetal look. The "overdrive" series looks like it replaces all the gunmetal series kits but with a grey case and the new "grip" teeth on all the various parts. Unfortunately never saw the older 154 piece gunmetal kit ever go on sale, so never did buy it. The 121 piece kit seems more popular and goes on sale all the time ($99 right now). The high price now might also be due to the fact that all this stuff was only recently released. The 284 pc kit looks like it'd be great for filling out a tool cart, but I think the wrenches not being 12-point would be kind of annoying - not the main set you want to use for your daily drivers, but something to complement what you already have. The "deep" sockets all being about semi-deep also probably makes them more of a complementary set.
I'd take a good breaker bar over all those bits/driver and keys. Or if they are going to add keys, at least make them some nice T handles that have some reach.
That is why I like pack out. I can customize for what I need and I buy full sets instead of buying a kit like you did and put it in the pack out. When you have a craftsman blow molded case with skip sizes it is really a waste of time buying a set like that cause now you have to go buy another case to put the missing sockets that craftsman did put in your kit cause they think you did not need and gave you all those stupid Allen keys instead. Why they (Craftsman)have not figured out not to screw their customers and and sell no skip set
I'm thinking that your rating isn't fair. I'm not a fan of modern-day Craftsman tools at all...I'm an old guy. But this is more of a specialized item. You can't compare it to a daily use set. If used daily, you will tear things up. For what it's made for, other than the sizing issues, it ain't half bad. Neither is the price when compared to the same technology from other companies. By the way, Capri makes a great set of wrenches like these...wave drive...maybe is the name. They are fantastic and priced reasonably.
Its just my opinion on the kit, its definitely not what I would recommend to anyone for main use. Its a kit for when you know your working on something rusty and crusty
@@thenkgarage probably partially a humid climate thing, but I’ve got WORKPRO wrenches that were in the same environment for a year and a half and they didn’t rust! Even have a very similar “gunmetal chrome” coating.. bummer.
@@spychiatrist3045 get some desiccants or gel packs whatever they called those. Humid climates will rust anything. Also oil your tools. Just a light coat will do.
I think the price is fair considering the us dollar is in the toilet with gold at $2000 an ounce. The harbor freight quinn set which is just rebramded gear wremch is like $400 bucks. The cases look nice and all but the more complete set whih i believe os marketed as loke 284 piece is around $380 with no plastic case but it seems like thats marketed for beginner techs who prefer not getting a cumbersome plastic hinged case since the 284 pc set comes with trays that can be put in tool box drawers for handy organization. Idk how i feel about the mee dual pawl 90 tooth ratchet design. On one hand its nice theyve updated the gunmetal ratcets to be servicable but i really like my dual pawl 60 tooth\ 120 position gunmetal ratchets despite tje closed head non servicabilty aspect. Theyfeel really smooth and the back drag is ! manageable. I think i paid around $120 for all 3 of them. But i do like that they have a new super slim profipe 180 tooth ratchet in this line. I think its rare to find a taiwanese tool these days that isnt worth the price pr a piece of junk unless youre going with the cheapest harbor freight option. I hope the overdrive wrenches which are mac rbrt clones are here to stay. I got the metric 11 piece for Christmas and have yet to use it but i like six point wrenches and they pair well with my mac six point flex head precision torque set. I think the v series craftsman line is a higher quality tool. I am planning on getting the 3 piece long flex head comfort grip ratchet set but finances are tough atm and tha set is like $200 for 3 ratchets but i like that the flex head on the v series dont have a detent that forces the flex position into a certain angle like the 72 tooth Craftsman flex heads or the matco\gearwrench locking flex heads. It can be nice to have and i like the detent on locking flex heads but sometimes i just want a flex head that has a smoother Acton in the flexible joint and is tight due to pod manufacturing when it comes to the yoke and the head fitting together like a snap om ratchet. I also really would like the long flex jead v series wrenches but don't like the size skips for $175 and only 7 pieces so might go with the gear wrench or even the icon\kabo spline drive double flex long wrenches. It would be nice if they put out a new version of the b series long flex head wreches with the six point zero degree offset fixed end in the overdrive series but without size skipping and maybe evem the "tight torque" aka rbrt feature on the fixed end. Many people love the quality feel and performance of those long v series wrenches but the main comment everyone makes is dissatisfaction with size skipping. I think it goes 10,12,14,16,17,18 and 19mm but i may be wrong. Its not bad for someone who focuses on toyotas like myself but for the same price i can get a more complete set with comparable features. All in all with this new line amd other current Craftsman offerings by sbd i really dont get why people are always digging into craftsman and saying that the old sears Craftsman tools are so much more supperior. That tri lobe ratchet you have may take more of a beating but ive seen tje 3/8 gunmetal 120t ratchets fail only whem taken to around 200 lbs/ft which is beyond what a 3/8 ratchet should endure or be used for.i think modern tools are mostly better than anything made in the 70's or 80's but people like to wax nostalgic about the times when tools were made in the us and minimum wage earned 95 ounces of gold a year and going to sears was the pinacle of capitalist consumerism which is far from the big box store, outsourced third world labor stagnated wages and a!erican labor markets transision from manufacturing leader to a service industry of disposible underpaid workers. It may be sad amd foreign to many older people who grew up when things were better but its the way things are now and i dont see ot ever going back to what it was but luckily Taiwan tools are getting better in quality and in many cases they are almost as good as their Japanese and german comparables for a fraction of the price and im ok with that. As far as the wallmart shopper mentality and the solidifoed transition from quality american made goods to disposible lower cost production alternatives im not a fan but you've gotta take the wins when you can these days
In my opinion it doesn’t matter what direction you use the wrench because in the real world you wont always have access to “do it right” all wrenches have a 15 degree offset for getting in awkward areas
@@thenkgarage It doesn't matter most of the time, but it is designed to be used a certain way. Just think of a pipe wrench and how its designed for leverage and grip in once direction, a open end wrench that is designed that way for the same reason. Also these have extra serrations that are supposed to help grip the nut and if you use it backwards they aren't going to be doing anything.
Go price a MAC rbrt complete kit then come back to review this product. They give you most of the tools and 90% of the RBRT design(only missing 2 teeth from the original), they also happen to go on sale the majority of the time. Its a great kit, Most kits have compromises, including the kit you bought 10y ago. I have lost of kits including USA made Craftsman, most include useless filler and the worst ratchets. personally i always give away the ratchets, and transfer the tools over to my own box with my preferred ratchets.
The older Crafstman USA stuff is nice...BUT it was never more than just average quality.If you go back to 1960's and 70's Crafstman USA you get much nicer than the last 20 years of Crafstman USA which was as I said just average at best...and really no better than what Tekton makes today from Taiwan.Some crafstman USA stuff is close to best Described as garbage in my opinion.That Even Tekton can beat..
I'll take USA made craftsman over china/Taiwan garbage any day. They are definitely overpriced. And by the way, a pair of vise grips are the best for breaking loose stripped nuts.
Stop making these popular my Lowe’s is putting everything on because everyone hates craftsman. I go in there every weekend and it’s the exact same stock. Nobody buys that shit and the overdrive was on clearance for 50 I was waiting for it to drop one more time. Stop telling people this is good.
@@thenkgarage don’t worry I put up signs all over Lowe’s saying that craftsman sucks that we’re going to boycott it and that they had pro LGBT tools as well as everything was made in China to support American businesses so now they’re really putting everything on clearance
I just love the craftsman brand tools but the old tools are the best out there still
Agreed
They definitely are not. They had a great warranty and some good manufacturers for certain products/years. Have some shit Craftsman made in teh USA
They definitely are not. They had a great warranty and some good manufacturers for certain products/years. Have some shit Craftsman made in teh USA
They definitely are not. They had a great warranty and some good manufacturers for certain products/years. Have some shit Craftsman made in teh USA
Old craftsman is poo compared to the new stuff. Been using solely craftsman for 20 years.
Great video!
The problem with tool sets like that is they put too much "filler" to bring up the tool count in the set (bits)
Why don't they include pliers and maybe a ball peen hammer?
I wish they would
naw just don't include filler items, or at least include the RBRT/Xtract or whatever the Facom version are called bits. Comparing the price to the Mac/facom/usag Variants, yeah its a good value.
Its a good set at a good price
Nice review. It was entertaining and informative. There's a dude on FB marketplace selling this exact kit new for $150. I might go for it if it's available... And I don't even wrench much beyond maintenance 😂.
I was hoping you guys demonstrated the 180 ratchet more but it was good 👍
Thank you
I would assume that is a 90 tooth gear with stacked pawls, and those wrenches are essentially MAC rebranded believe it or not. I think the days of picking on imports are over, everyone has caught up.
Decent kit, good video young men 👍
Thanks
How are the sockets compared to MAC?
Don't we pick on imports for ethical reasons not quallity?
nope, non of the overdrive is MAC rebranded. They just applied the RBRT design to the gunmetal crome line of tools Craftsman offers. the ratchet is a updated 120T gunmetal chrome ratchet. its a 90t gear double stack just like the 120xp gear wrench, to get the 180t. MAC/Proto 90t is completely different design and fully made in the usa.
Its an ok set
i want overdrive wrenches bad asss, love your channel
Thanks
You were turning the wrench the wrong way on the open end, it's not as big of a deal if it isn't overly tightened but it's double important on the nonslip style wrenched where the serrations are placed
came to say this, looks like open end may have worked if it was flipped the correct way.
Sidenote: That Garage/Trailer/Abandoned school is badass. Keep it up guys!
There is no right or wrong way to
I got mad when I saw that. And there is a right and wrong way to use that open end
Will use it the right way next time
Thanks guys, this was fun and informative and loved getting a look into Kurt's "adapted" traveling tool kit. Hoping to use some of your guidance (and merchandise) to help me set up my own!
Glad it was helpful!
Back in the 70's and 80's, my dad was a big craftsman guy. When I started buying my own tools I did the same like mid 99's. Well, about a month or so back I was out and need a pair of channel lock plyers. I stopped in Lowe's because I didn't want to drive the 25 miles home and bought a pair of craftsman. They looked better than the ones I had at home. Build quality IMO no better the half the other tools out there. Do I think I'll buy Craftsman again? Hard question.
I like the old craftsman a lot more than i like the new stuff
15:50.. you have a 17mm socket☝️
Not a bad kit..a little more money, but not a alot more.. Probably worth it in the long run
I think i was talking about how there was no 17mm wrench
Kurt and Nick I love the “dramatic” opening you guys should have been actors, just kidding. I ended up getting a set of the overdrive SAE wrenches after I saw another RUclips guy Jeff’s garage adventures talk about having 6 point combination wrenches for stubborn bolts. According to what I read the wrenches are comparable to the RBRT from Mac. I don’t know if that applies to the sockets
Thanks Chris! I think they are very similar to the mac and other brands as well
I have forty years working on car and Craftsman has always been good to me and always fixed my car never ben lubricated by a snap on dealer never needed
I started on craftsman because my dad had craftsman tools. Never failed me either
I just got this kit online from Lowe’s for $157. With free delivery
Nice
Nice, was it on sale?
No you did not! You got the 80 or 99 piece set for that price.
I got it full price and am ok with that
Metrinch brand wrenches and sockets were designed to use the flat of the nut instead of the edge.
Why they never skyrocketed to the top of the heap i'll never know.
It just never caught on
Stanley black and decker owns Mactools and craftsman so this is why you see a better quality
Maybe, I just hope they keep the quality going
Very good video, could you do these craftsman compared to the MAC tools since they are owned by the same company.
If I come across the mac ones I will certainly compare them
Just noticed on Lowe's website that the smaller version of this (the 121 piece set) is on sale for $50 off making it $149 until Jan 31, 2024.
Thats a good desl
That type of open end antislip is directional, which is why I like Wright Grip.
Thanks for watching
It is very similar to MAC RBRT sockets and wrenches. Minus the price tag. I wish they'd sell individual socket sets rather than a kit. Those sockets would be good to have as a backup. I prefer to use regular sockets so you don't round fasteners. I think if you do encounter rounded stuff, these sockets would definitely be good to have.
We bought it as a kit to pull out only when fasteners are rounded or rusted. It may come in good use that way
You were using the open end backwards on the rounded nut
Ok
Although it's just an aesthetic thing, I love the gunmetal look. The "overdrive" series looks like it replaces all the gunmetal series kits but with a grey case and the new "grip" teeth on all the various parts. Unfortunately never saw the older 154 piece gunmetal kit ever go on sale, so never did buy it. The 121 piece kit seems more popular and goes on sale all the time ($99 right now). The high price now might also be due to the fact that all this stuff was only recently released. The 284 pc kit looks like it'd be great for filling out a tool cart, but I think the wrenches not being 12-point would be kind of annoying - not the main set you want to use for your daily drivers, but something to complement what you already have. The "deep" sockets all being about semi-deep also probably makes them more of a complementary set.
The gun metal is a good look
These wrench’s are to prevent slipping 12 point is terrible at doing then even spline drive is better the 12 point
6 point is best when you need the ultimate grip
I think that's awesome! I love quality of Craftsman tools because they are cheaper than snap-on.
Yes they are!
Amazing acting skills
Thanks
I'd take a good breaker bar over all those bits/driver and keys. Or if they are going to add keys, at least make them some nice T handles that have some reach.
I wish but they just want cheap filler items
That is why I like pack out. I can customize for what I need and I buy full sets instead of buying a kit like you did and put it in the pack out. When you have a craftsman blow molded case with skip sizes it is really a waste of time buying a set like that cause now you have to go buy another case to put the missing sockets that craftsman did put in your kit cause they think you did not need and gave you all those stupid Allen keys instead. Why they (Craftsman)have not figured out not to screw their customers and and sell no skip set
Its not supposed to be a full complete set but a good variety in a compact case for simple jobs
Waited till it went on sale and got it for $150
Good buy
Capri tools has a great damaged fastener wrench set (wave drive)
Oh nice
I'm thinking that your rating isn't fair. I'm not a fan of modern-day Craftsman tools at all...I'm an old guy. But this is more of a specialized item. You can't compare it to a daily use set. If used daily, you will tear things up. For what it's made for, other than the sizing issues, it ain't half bad. Neither is the price when compared to the same technology from other companies. By the way, Capri makes a great set of wrenches like these...wave drive...maybe is the name. They are fantastic and priced reasonably.
Its just my opinion on the kit, its definitely not what I would recommend to anyone for main use. Its a kit for when you know your working on something rusty and crusty
My problem is how long will the “extra grip technology” last.
They want you to only use it when you feel you “need it” should be warrantied if they wear out but how long will craftsman make this dor
3 months in my garage with NO USE yet and it’s RUSTING like HELL. 😢
We’ve used ours a few times, no rust at all
@@thenkgarage probably partially a humid climate thing, but I’ve got WORKPRO wrenches that were in the same environment for a year and a half and they didn’t rust! Even have a very similar “gunmetal chrome” coating.. bummer.
@@spychiatrist3045 get some desiccants or gel packs whatever they called those. Humid climates will rust anything. Also oil your tools. Just a light coat will do.
Yeas
Ok
I think the price is fair considering the us dollar is in the toilet with gold at $2000 an ounce. The harbor freight quinn set which is just rebramded gear wremch is like $400 bucks. The cases look nice and all but the more complete set whih i believe os marketed as loke 284 piece is around $380 with no plastic case but it seems like thats marketed for beginner techs who prefer not getting a cumbersome plastic hinged case since the 284 pc set comes with trays that can be put in tool box drawers for handy organization. Idk how i feel about the mee dual pawl 90 tooth ratchet design. On one hand its nice theyve updated the gunmetal ratcets to be servicable but i really like my dual pawl 60 tooth\ 120 position gunmetal ratchets despite tje closed head non servicabilty aspect. Theyfeel really smooth and the back drag is ! manageable. I think i paid around $120 for all 3 of them. But i do like that they have a new super slim profipe 180 tooth ratchet in this line. I think its rare to find a taiwanese tool these days that isnt worth the price pr a piece of junk unless youre going with the cheapest harbor freight option. I hope the overdrive wrenches which are mac rbrt clones are here to stay. I got the metric 11 piece for Christmas and have yet to use it but i like six point wrenches and they pair well with my mac six point flex head precision torque set. I think the v series craftsman line is a higher quality tool. I am planning on getting the 3 piece long flex head comfort grip ratchet set but finances are tough atm and tha set is like $200 for 3 ratchets but i like that the flex head on the v series dont have a detent that forces the flex position into a certain angle like the 72 tooth Craftsman flex heads or the matco\gearwrench locking flex heads. It can be nice to have and i like the detent on locking flex heads but sometimes i just want a flex head that has a smoother Acton in the flexible joint and is tight due to pod manufacturing when it comes to the yoke and the head fitting together like a snap om ratchet.
I also really would like the long flex jead v series wrenches but don't like the size skips for $175 and only 7 pieces so might go with the gear wrench or even the icon\kabo spline drive double flex long wrenches. It would be nice if they put out a new version of the b series long flex head wreches with the six point zero degree offset fixed end in the overdrive series but without size skipping and maybe evem the "tight torque" aka rbrt feature on the fixed end. Many people love the quality feel and performance of those long v series wrenches but the main comment everyone makes is dissatisfaction with size skipping. I think it goes 10,12,14,16,17,18 and 19mm but i may be wrong. Its not bad for someone who focuses on toyotas like myself but for the same price i can get a more complete set with comparable features.
All in all with this new line amd other current Craftsman offerings by sbd i really dont get why people are always digging into craftsman and saying that the old sears Craftsman tools are so much more supperior. That tri lobe ratchet you have may take more of a beating but ive seen tje 3/8 gunmetal 120t ratchets fail only whem taken to around 200 lbs/ft which is beyond what a 3/8 ratchet should endure or be used for.i think modern tools are mostly better than anything made in the 70's or 80's but people like to wax nostalgic about the times when tools were made in the us and minimum wage earned 95 ounces of gold a year and going to sears was the pinacle of capitalist consumerism which is far from the big box store, outsourced third world labor stagnated wages and a!erican labor markets transision from manufacturing leader to a service industry of disposible underpaid workers. It may be sad amd foreign to many older people who grew up when things were better but its the way things are now and i dont see ot ever going back to what it was but luckily Taiwan tools are getting better in quality and in many cases they are almost as good as their Japanese and german comparables for a fraction of the price and im ok with that. As far as the wallmart shopper mentality and the solidifoed transition from quality american made goods to disposible lower cost production alternatives im not a fan but you've gotta take the wins when you can these days
Ok
i think its a nice set for 150.
Yes
Next time try turning the open end the correct way
In my opinion it doesn’t matter what direction you use the wrench because in the real world you wont always have access to “do it right” all wrenches have a 15 degree offset for getting in awkward areas
@@thenkgarage It doesn't matter most of the time, but it is designed to be used a certain way. Just think of a pipe wrench and how its designed for leverage and grip in once direction, a open end wrench that is designed that way for the same reason. Also these have extra serrations that are supposed to help grip the nut and if you use it backwards they aren't going to be doing anything.
Will use it the right way next time
Go price a MAC rbrt complete kit then come back to review this product. They give you most of the tools and 90% of the RBRT design(only missing 2 teeth from the original), they also happen to go on sale the majority of the time. Its a great kit, Most kits have compromises, including the kit you bought 10y ago. I have lost of kits including USA made Craftsman, most include useless filler and the worst ratchets. personally i always give away the ratchets, and transfer the tools over to my own box with my preferred ratchets.
Ok
The real question is,can it beat Mac rbrt/precision torque for 1/4 of the price?😂
I would guess it comes pretty close. I do not have the mac set to compare unfortunately
They are made in Taiwan. You can’t beat their quality!
Its got good quality wherever its made
dude reallyyyyy like whyy. make a good video
Do you make videos?
@@thenkgarage yep
You like our videos?
The older Crafstman USA stuff is nice...BUT it was never more than just average quality.If you go back to 1960's and 70's Crafstman USA you get much nicer than the last 20 years of Crafstman USA which was as I said just average at best...and really no better than what Tekton makes today from Taiwan.Some crafstman USA stuff is close to best Described as garbage in my opinion.That Even Tekton can beat..
I miss the G and GK series craftsman
I'll take USA made craftsman over china/Taiwan garbage any day. They are definitely overpriced. And by the way, a pair of vise grips are the best for breaking loose stripped nuts.
Sometimes the vise grip works great but other times you dont have the space to use it
Stop making these popular my Lowe’s is putting everything on because everyone hates craftsman. I go in there every weekend and it’s the exact same stock. Nobody buys that shit and the overdrive was on clearance for 50 I was waiting for it to drop one more time. Stop telling people this is good.
No
@@thenkgarage don’t worry I put up signs all over Lowe’s saying that craftsman sucks that we’re going to boycott it and that they had pro LGBT tools as well as everything was made in China to support American businesses so now they’re really putting everything on clearance
Oh ok