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Nvidia RTX 3060 Review & Benchmarks - A Trap for AMD?
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-"MSRP of 329 US."
The cheapest model in Finland costs 509 euros. Yikes.
You're lucky, where I live it's around 1400$, but not the cheapest tho
@@farkasambrus5741 Dell XPS desktop with 10700 + 3060Ti costs about 1400 euro. And I can apply 16% student discount to that. Just buy a pre-built, if you really want a PC.
@@allansh828 Only in the US and it's currently at 1650$
In here that would be around 2k
However the gpus price is crazy in Europe
Has to be taken into account that Europe pricing includes Tax, the US msrp does not. But still its real fucked 🙈
Don't worry, we can't get any variant anyway.
Just so glad i could buy a 6800 XT 2 month ago, iam very sorry for everyone who needs a GPU now...the pricing is just out of this world.
Thx 😔
mining revenue is also out of this world. It takes like 5 - 8 months to get money back, even after paying 2X the price for a GPU.
Hey now I’m okay with my 1650......🥲
Nah you can still get cards at the same price. I’d buy a a 3070 over a 6800xt that can’t RTX so don’t feel sorry.
Same here. Got a 3080 in early December and I was complaining about paying 80$ over MSRP. My same card now goes for 300$ over MSRP at the same retailers if you can even find it. Insanity.
"we get absolutely slapped anyway"
that's exactly what's happening in eastern europe and asia.
Northern Europe also.
Africa too.
basically worldwide
Hi In my region there is stock of 3090 both MSI card at $2400 and $2500 USD SOUTH ASIA
@@fist003 except canada us and uk.
Looks like I'll be sticking with my GTX 1080 for four more years while I wait for anything to actually be in stock.
same. I watch these RTX launch videos and I just think like...who cares? I won't be able to buy one anyway. Sucks to suck.
You could get the rtx 3080 when that comes back in stock. What resolution and refresh rate do you game at? Just curious.
I wanted to do exactly that but have been waiting for stock for months now. Sorry if you were asking the other guy but I am on a 60Hz screen and I play at 4K.
I am absolutely fine with my GTX 1080Ti. I just bought it used 3 months ago and can't let it go. I'll keep this thing for a minimum of 5 years. The extra price NVIDIA charges for RTX is pointless in my opinion.
@@mythic017 i am still with Gtx 750ti :) its still ok, but i would love a 6GB card upgrade and 8 more RAM ;p
Ive heard the mining limitation ONLY includes Etherium
All of this is only for marketing and buzz. Don't get fooled by Nvidia.
Yep
Yeah, but Etherium is essentially the only thing you should be mining
Yep. And someone's apparently already found a workaround
@@remos4727 Or mine a different coin then trade
Let's be honest. We have a higher chance of winning the lottery or running into a unicorn down the street than we are being able to pick up a 30 series card for MSRP anytime soon.
If there wasn't a stock problem, I'm sure most would go for the Ti instead of the regular 3060 :(, but I think now it's more like "take what you can get". Good luck today, everyone!
I was lucky enough to snag a 3060 ti and PSU combo on Newegg before the MSRP increase and seeing this review I don’t regret it one bit
Imma try to get this gpu today lol. I'm still on a 970 so I'll take anything with the RTX features.
@@Max-xl3ml Good luck! I'm on a laptop with a 1060 6gb. Decided I wanted to build a new desktop and picked THE worst time to do it lol
@@PranceyFromAruba Lol well thanks for the well wishes but no luck was had, they were all long gone before I even got in the car apparently. Imma just get all the other parts and wait a year (or two or three lmao) to upgrade the card. I have a 2 core cpu, a mechanical hard drive and 8 gigs of ddr3 I have a lot more upgrades I can do before the gpu.
Yeah the 3060 Ti makes more sense assuming both cards are msrp. It gives you better performance per dollar. The 3060 really needed to be about 10% stronger to be cpmpelling
By the time I’d be able to get a 3060 the 4060 will be out :/
By the time I'd be able to get a Rtx 3060 , the 6060 will be out.
by the time i get a 3060 i am sure i would be dead
Watch the 3060 to 4060 performance will probably be about as the distance from a 2060 super to 3060 lol
The 5000 series will be out and even then, issue might be the same.
lol
Cool so Nvidia released the 2060 super again. Exciting.
Too bad we're plagued with stock issues, scalpers, miners, etc
and human malware causing people to want to game since they are home all day and saw it on tiktok.
Yeah, I checked EBay just out of curiosity and prices for this card are ridiculous. You'd have to mad to pay what they are listing the cards for. Not really worth it to just play games at 1080p. Nvidia execs and Jensen probably had a good laugh at these cards actually being available at MSRP.
I'd rather buy a Megumin than a graphics card anyway.
There is also a worldwide shortage in silicon, something that's so bad its affecting the car industry, US might be trying to sort it out though, so hopefully in the coming months Nvidia will be like, "ohh, we can sell more products now and make more profit, therefore producing more cards to meet the demand, makes sense."
Joined a chat about rtx 30 series stock availability. Filled with miners just waiting to buy hundreds of cards.
nothing like waking up to all my favorite tech youtubers reviewing yet another card to be instantly out of stock everywhere
"Can't be bypassed"
Literally bypassed already
wtf, really?
Yeah watch the latest tech news episode
@@smarquez42 only ethereum is blocked
Everything else is unblocked 👁️👄👁️
"Bypassed" - as in, you can mine altcoins that are worth half the price of ETH.
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ A quick peek at whattomine shows that the next profitable altcoin is BitTubeCash which is only ~12% less profitable than ETH.
I hate everything about PC gaming right now.
Dunno, RAM prices have been OK, and SSD as well.
lolol
@@Hirnlego999 but most people are still on pascal according to steam so the current market really affects the majority.
@METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS It's not just the memory bus, they changed the core which focuses on graphic unlike previous cores. This is to make it more efficient and cheaper to manufacture.
This should've been a 3050ti.
First 3060 review I watched!
Me 2. Next is hardware unboxed
@@ConfusedOwl92 ahhaha same here!
Same bro but I’m watching Linus next
@@obrown2212 Hardware Canucks for me next.
bro your videos and format are so freaking clean its addicting to watch keep it up ali you really deserve much more you warlord.
It feels amazingly clean for me as well, I dunno how he does this tho
This shit be costing upwards of $700.
Also that hashrate limit thing is a joke, it only limits the rate of ethereum and no other coin.
it's 800€ here.
nothing more than a pr stunt
3:22 That 1060 pricing is a bit misleading. While the Founder's Edition did indeed retail for $300, the MSRP for AIB cards was $250. IIRC, most decent AIB models were around $270-$280 near launch, and by the end of 2016 you could regularly find sales of $220-$240. It's important to have that context, because the RTX 2060 was a massive price hike in reality. It basically put the XX60 series in the same price class that the XX70 series used to occupy.
how does AMD counter the 3060... with the release of the 5700xt, almost 2 years ago... time travel is real.
For those in the EVGA queue:
I joined the queue 30 minutes after launch and I just got mine a few days back.
It took them almost a month and a half to get 30 minutes into day 1 orders. Not trying to be a downer, just want to instill some realism into how bad the situation really is right now.
I don’t expect to get called for my 3060ti or 3070 spot I placed early January this generation.
Luckily there’s the step-up program that allows me to buy an upgrade to a 3060ti. Who knows how long that queue is though...
Edit: And so far I’ve only gotten called for the $389 version, not the base model
Do you also have a how to build 3-d chest tutorial?
No homo
take a preset from internet
At this point I'll take whichever I can find, this is ridiculous that supply got kidnapped by either scalpers or miners.
I bought a good 3060 Ti cheaper than some 3060, crazy... Still waiting for the 6700XT if possible.
Forget PC build, this man needs a workout channel haha. Looking jacked af
No UK sellers had £299 models, some put £299 models up to £399-499 immediately. Only £489+ models left now, and that won't last.
Ahh MSRP... I’ve read stories of that before
All i see is lose-lose situation. $330 was unrealistic to begin with. TPU talk to partners and they said at $330 they are more or less sell the card at loss. And we already see people saying this card should not retail anything higher than $250. And memory prices also going up. According to some partners starting form next month just to make the card within $330 is impossible.
Yeah I'm seeing $200-400 added on top of MSRP that's a nope!
3060 msrp: $329
indonesia: $1000 take it or leave it
A huge majority of us can't even get our hands on one of these at the msrp.
Yeah, the only price I can find for these in South Africa has it costing more than some of the 3070's at launch. No thanks.
This card is trash, especially for the price
shocking bad product hardly any gains on a 2060/2060s. AMD will wipe the floor of this and the 3060ti with the 6700xt.
@@varunrao1704 this didn’t age well
Glad I bought the 3060Ti, essentially a 2080 super at $400~$500. In comparison 3060 would be a 2070 at $330 or $400+ dollars.
I don't know about you....but I'm only seeing around 2060s performance with this card. Glad I got the 3060 Ti too.
Thank you for highlighting the reality of GPU's in Aus and NZ
I paid $566 for one of those bad boys. My retailer said that they won't be selling it, the would be putting it directly to prebuilds. But in 1AM in the morning my stock monitor said that there are some avaible to purchase. I immediatly went to the website and there was only ONE card. So I managed to get the last and first RTX 3060 which was on my retailers website. It is PALiT GeForce RTX 3060 StormX OC, it has only single fan, but it is better than nothing. Yeah, I was lucky as ****
I have a triple fan 3060 and it's amazing! Who ever says otherwise, whatever...
if 1060 owners are still "wondering" if the 3060 is worth it, its probably not.
its only worth it for them if they know they need an upgrade.
It's literally 2x the performance for the same MSRP, so I'd say it's 100% worth it, but performance isn't the issue here.
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ It's not great value compared to a 3060ti or a supposedly cheaper 2060. The market is just fucked atm so anything goes
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ I can honestly say that MSRP line is untrue, all the cards that are available to purchase here in south africa are 2.5x the MSRP ($750 after conversions) where with my 1060, I actually paid near MSRP 4 years ago. To me, the 3060 is a really shit card in comparison to the 3060ti that actually launched at a lower price but hasnt been in stock since January. This whole ordeal has put me off of buying a Nvidia GPU entirely.
I'm happy I was able to get a 3060TI. Honestly the best bang for you buck 3000 gpu :D
Perfect, as always.
You must make the cleanest looking videos on YT
But don't fear, I catched that lil transition at 0:32 xD
Man I think this is the most fail one can find in all of your youtube video history, and thats a freaking huuge compliment
Here in Germany the 3060 Ti was often cheaper than the 3060 today… but both close to impossible to get
@Hadd I am at least lucky to have a 3090 in my main system, but I was planning to build an ITX system in the Ghost S1 to keep as a travel system for smaller deep learning workloads, but since also vaccination in Germany is super slow, I guess it doesn't really matter; But the main reason for me was that a lot of models are designed around the 2080 Ti and thus require a minimum of 11GB VRAM, so it is either 3090 or 3060 for me (well, or Titan or 2080 Ti, but I liked a 3060 for a secondary system… at least for 329€, not for 700)
This is the best review I've seen so far. Thank you for properly addressing the price issue, I've only been able to skim through most reviews and look at the conclusion, but this one stood out to me. The price is way too high, it should have been $279 in my opinion. There is quite literally no reason to buy this over the 3060 Ti Founders Edition.
I think the specs and pricing is terrible, I thought the same when the specs were rumored and I can confirm that now with this review, NOBODY needs more than 8GB vram on a 60series gpu, it's just not capable of putting out that many frames at levels where the vram matters. If it were a 6-8gb card with a 290-300$ MSRP price tag, I wouldn't fuss about it, but having that double vram for which adds to the price, means it's a pretty terrible product imo which has a small niche of customers..
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ Specs are fine imo, pricing is not. $329 is just too much
Had to sell my 2070 Super due to financial problems caused by my health. This was some months ago and I got 350€ for it. Now I can't even buy anything similar for that money.
This is so frustrating, should've kept the damn thing and just stopped buying food haha.
Anyways, great review as always. Sadly it's of barely any use as none of these cards can't be had for less then the soul of a newborn.
Awesome video, as always!
Just got up and checked my two preferred retailers in NZ and the 3060 is a $900-1000 card, and the 3060 Ti has now jumped up to a $1200 card. Ouch.
nvidia: haha halve the mining performance
miners: we still get half? deal
Half of the performance for twice the price. And you can't even buy enough for one decent mining rig. I don't think miners are actually buying this card.
@@frqgrenade i wonder they half the hashrate with the same wattage or just simply half the wattage, the efficiency stays the same ie half hashrate at half wattage, then it'll still give good return
1 year later watching these videos I am still waiting for it to drop its price
This card is too slow at its msrp compared to the 3060 Ti. It looses to the 5700XT which is kinda disappointing. If it was a other 10% faster it would be well positioned.
Lol, the crypto limiter driver has already been cracked
sure has
I bought the non Ti since the price difference between the 12gb and Ti was over 75% when i bought it, while the Ti does not perform even close to 75% better.
Same here, bought the 3060 for $379 while the ti was 600 plus.
@@oeufleau8543 Nice! I got mine for 479 euro, the Ti was 799 :)
Glad I snagged an amazing eBay deal on an RTX 2080 for $860 AUD in March 2019. Buying a GPU right now would be the biggest headache!
How a 2080 at 860aud is a deal???
@@lupintheiii3055 Yes, at the time they were $1300+
I think at this point, it's not about the better buy. it's really about what you can get your hands on.
Just so glas i could buy a 6800 XT 2 month ago
Crazy how everyone is stuck on the crazy prices. The only thing we can do is just sit and wait it out until companies give up and sell them at MSRP.
see you in the year 3090
Hate for anyone who hasn't been able to get their hands on 3000 series, but I promise there are tools out there to help. Stock checkers really do wonders. Was able to snag a 3090 back a month or so after release and stock checker is still dinging on 70s, 80s, and 90s models. Keep at it you'll lock one down.
Man.... in my country (Hungary) these are the prices:
3060 - $1420
3060Ti - OUT OF STOCK
3070 - $2255
3080 - $3320
3090 - $4030
Radeon cards almost the same prices... 6800 started at $2500 and from here it reaches to the starry sky...
So what should I have to check?! HORROR PRICES!!!!! CANT BUY A CARD at these stupid prices.
@@TheRelixo1 I mean yeah I can't speak for other countries. Prices here on a regular basis are inflated as well, damn near there. But occasionally, retailers like Newegg and bestbuy will periodically get stock for cards at msrp pricing. How I got mine. Newegg.
Nice to see the $330USD RRP cards are selling for $800-999AUD at retailers currently depending on card and availability
Right now the 3060 in Australia costs as much as a XSX. If I didn't have such a big steam library I honestly would've sold my PC a while ago. I might actually end up doing it as my brother might be willing to split the cost between me and him.
i dunno why i watch these videos, i just own a T440P running hackintosh with liquid metal, i used to play competetive cod on xbox but i dont game anymore. however i tend to enjoy watching all of these to nerd out aswell as linus techtips and a few other channels, your videos are really great and i enjoy watching, thanks and keep it up :)
The AU/NZ situation seems similar to India. Here, the OEM cards are available but incredibly overpriced. And the FE models never really went on sale. NVIDIA even removed their listing from their website after pretending to have them for a few months.
appreciate those workstation benchmarks
Optimum Tech forgot...DIE Size. 1060 is 200mm²/16nm. The 2060/2070 is 445mm²/12nm, the 3060 is only 276mm²/8nm. The 3060 TI/3070 is 396mm²/8nm. That REALLY shows the major difference. What i want to say, is that the performance is surprisingly linear with the xx60. The Node is 33% smaller, the DIE is 33% smaller and the Performance is nearly the same. 2060vs3060.
It really shows just how bad ampere is when you don't push it doesn't it?
Will you be going through the benefits or downsides of enabling Resizable Bar for Nvidia RTX GPU`s now that the new drivers (461.72) are out?
I’ve had a 3080 FE for a lil while now. Very thankful I got one at MSRP through Best Buy. I wish everyone could have one. If anyone has one, does it run hot? Mine is at 82C usually
here in Russia some retailers have set prices for 3060 at about 1330 bucks. not like I'm gonna buy anything from Nvidia given their actions, but still...crazy stuff.
Really glad I just snagged a 2080Ti FE for MSRP...tired of chasing Ampere, the 2080Ti will retain resale value while I wait.
Hey...you still have basically a 3070 performance. You are still good.
so far retailers listing them for $999 and the cheaper models $759 in Australia...
Basically the true 3060 is the 3060ti and the 3060 is essentially a 3050. I'll wait for AMD 😊
true
Save and wait for the 3060 Ti or get a used 5700 XT. (when prices become reasonable).
3:30 what about the gtx 1660?
I mean it's hard to fall in a trap when the trap doesn't exist.
I'll see what AMD has to compete, before I decide. So glad there is competition, even though it's not possible to buy at msrp.
Normal generation to generation performance uplift the 3060 SHOULD be 70-80% faster than the 1060. Looks like in some games you show it is more than that which is good. And as always from generation to generation...the current 60 card replaces the previous generation's 70 card, which we are seeing here in these limited benchmarks.
Also the 6700XT is probably targeting between the 3060 Ti and 3070...Take the 5700XT in your benchmarks and add 25% more performance that is exactly where it lines up. Either the 6 GB 6700 or the 6600 XT will be the competitor to the 3060.
There needs to be at least about a 100 usd gap between the 3060 and ti variant to make the 3060 be the better buy.
Of course as both cards' prices increase the gap also has to increase
Man those fe cards look soooo good. I would love to have one in my system.
What does performance look like when you completely saturate the 12 GBs of vram? Does the difference narrow between the 3060 and the 3060 ti when a game is using 12 GB of vram?
QUESTION! - I have an RTX3090FE and I've been trying to buy a Ryzen 9 5950 for weeks!! My question is what is a good alternative that is actually available? Intel i0 10900k? Ryzen 7 5800x? What would y'all buy to finish this build?!? Please help .. I game and make youtube videos is my main build purpose.
The 12 GB RAM is just so ridiculous. The card is not nearly powerful enough to leverage all of it, and it's the reason why the vendors cannot possibly hit MSRP with this. All of this just to catch up to AMD's unnecessarily huge VRAM sizes. Disappointed.
@@colbyboucher6391 back in the Turing days there have been some reports from vendor sources that suggested some GPUs' (most notably 2060 Super and post-price-cut 2060) MSRPs were impossible to achieve with all but the most basic designs. So while Nvidia themselves could price their FE cards at whatever price they want, seeing how they don't need to buy the chips themselves, and how FE cards are mostly about marketing and less about actually delivering products - the vendors had a hard time. The 2070 and above was the good margin territory, especially the 2080 Ti.
There have been similar reports about that this time as well, concerning 3060 Ti and 3060. Gamers Nexus reported on those, both back in the Turing days and recently. I've read about similar MSRP issues in the past, but I could not retell those from memory now, but even forgetting about that Nvidia has a habit of slapping on whatever MSRP they want, making a small batch of FE cards that are instantly sold out at that price, and then going all "why are you vendors crying? We managed it, so you can too!", except that Nvidia is so huge they could lose money on each FE sale and not care much.
Also, Nvidia does not provide the memory chips, the vendors procure those themselves, and the price on those is known to fluctuate a lot.
And as to why they would do that - because the "official MSRP" is what gets referenced in the reviews, and informs the reviewers decisions about the product. Ali does that in this video. AMD have done the same by marketing the 5700 XT as a "$400" card, except every single model worth buying at launch was $430 and above.
msrp in Aus is meant to be $500 but stores are being greedy and charging $800. thats insane
while a 3060 super is possible, GA106 in the 3060 has 3584 cores and they can only increase that to 3840. not a massive difference. further cutting down ga104 doesnt really make any sense here, as a whole ga104 is 6144, so it would need to be cut down a lot. (kinda like the 2060 KO)
I just checked the prices of GPUs -- mind you I have not followed PC gaming for around 4 years -- seeing the current GPU prices ROFL.
The difference in cyberpunk was 12 or so percent based on the video, not 25...am I missing something?
Edit: Nevermind, I see the graphs not the capture footage. Youre right
Guys - some quick advice: Don’t bother buying a good gpu yet. Wait for things to settle down - there is a silicone shortage and crypto miners are going crazy. Instead, spend little money on a not so good card - say 1030 - and wait for the gpus to be properly on stock and at a more reasonable price.
3:17 oh my gosh, it' all I ever dreamed of,
Computer x F1
Team Red please. Just hoping they have stock so the prices won't be ridiculous. :D
I'm not positively nor negatively surprised, about 25% faster than the 2060 at 1440p at 94,3% of the 2060 msrp, so about 32,6% better price/performance. Expecting 30% gen vs gen, it's an okay card, but I think it should have been 8GB and 4096 shaders at like 299$, slightly faster chip, but cheaper and less memory.
Nice, which gaming laptop would you recommend for 2021
My actually favourite sci-fy channel!
Keep it up
1060 launched at 250 USD, not 300 USD. Founders edition was 300 USD
Ali can you do a review on the MSI Aero ITX card for either the 3060 or 3060 Ti please? It would be really interesting to see single fan performance on these cards.
Can you please share the way you benchmark games? What software? How much time? How do you export the values?
1:54 - Pain. The RTX 3060 is retailing $800 here.
I guess my pci express slot will remain empty for the foreseeable future
I would love to get the ti but the 3060 might actually be available right now for a reasonable price. In my area I'm seeing ~390 usd in stock locally whereas the ti is only available from resellers at 600 to 1300 usd lmao.
Yes time to wait for the 3060 super.
Another card that is going to be impossible to buy???
Hopefully it would then pan out like just the 1660 super did, with close to 3060ti performance, at near to 3060 prices.
In Canada the 3060ti is probably the rarest of the 3xxxx series. The 3060 is selling for about $100 over MSRP. Comparisons are almost useless these days due to complete lack of supply.
Still not worth upgrading from a 5700xt bought at rrp when released. Current price to performance for 'gaming' sucks - especially for 1080p gamers.
bought a 3060 on a whim just for fun because a local vendor swore they still had stock and i had my doubts. it should arrive tomorrow XD. seems like i will sell my 5700xt
GTX 1080Ti still kicks A55, I won't be switching until RTX 4000 series or AMD's 7000 series or whatever they will be called.
This should have been a 3050ti, and 3060 should be faster for this price, right now the 3060ti is a MUCH better buy
I dont think a 3050 ti will come until next year when the 3080 ti will magicly come out
People mine! Keep mining until there nothing left to mine and see how the market fills up with PC parts.
You know what I think, 3060 is a weird flex by nvidia, giving miners another opportunity to get stock, though I am confident 6700xt will be a direct competitor to the 3060ti instead, the cuda cores on the 3060 is just a bit too low tbh. If amd play there cards right with decent stock, they can literally dominate the market soon with the value king 6700xt, and 6700 we shall see!!!
Launched in Brazil for almost $900, same price i paid for my 3070.
I'm sorry but there is no trap for AMD to be seen here. That's because the GA106 chip has nothing left in the tank, especially with a 192 bit bus. Even using the "full" GA106 die the perf bump would be 5% at best and those chips are going into laptops because they are also the most power efficent (that's how binning works, best silicon is not only better at overclocking but also at undervolting). Also a further cut down GA104 is out of the way since the 3060ti GA104 is already cut down to the point of disabling functioning silicon. There is no masterplan going on, it's just that Ampere as an architecture is pretty bad. The 3080 had a 50% advantage over the 2080 just because it uses a GA102 chip at 350W+ while the 2080 uses a TU104 chip at 215W. As we can see here comparing the same class of chips (GA106 in the 3060 VS TU106 in the 2060) the performance jump is an underwelming 11-15%.