Outstanding interpretation of Porfiry by Ian. Porfiry was always a character who fascinated me. There is an undercurrent of tongue-in-cheek insolence towards Raskolnikov. The best interplay of psychological warfare in any literature or film I've ever seen.
Came here to write exactly this. I'm not a fan of crime fiction, but the dialogues between Raskolnikow and Porfiry were the most intense I had ever read. Few, lets call it scenes, of a book, burned themselves as deep into my memory as these. Truly fascinating characters.
But why is he exactly a monster? Maybe just very passionate about his work and evidently very good at it. After all, there's nothing wrong about wanting to put a cold blooded killer behind bars.
Shows that not all psychopaths are killers. Some of them are government officials. Porfiry played Raskolnikov’s emotions like a fiddle and loved every minute of it.
I wouldn't call him a psychopath. There's a difference between enjoying your job of bringing a murderer to justice and disregarding all justice altogether - which is generally how you would describe a true psychopath
Too bad the actor playing Raskolnikov is so utterly miscast. I couldn’t watch it, bc there’s no motivation for him to murder the pawn broker, is there? He doesn’t look skinny or sick, he’s not shivering with fever, he’s just not Raskolnikov. The BBC doesn’t usually make this kind of mistake.
"Ah Raskolnikov, I wasn't expecting you at this hour" "In the name of the Galactic Russian Republic, your under arrest marshal" "Are you threatening me master lawer?" "The jury will decide your fate" "It's treason then"
This Raskolnikov is too well fed, too clean and healthy looking, altogether too bland - in the novel Raskolnikov is a sick man, weak with hunger and shivering with fever, and with an intensity that this actor fails utterly to bring to the screen.
I agree, 100%. I haven’t read the novel in years, but Dostoyevsky’s characterization of Raskolnikov is one of the first that hits you, and remains with you, until he breaks down. The guy in this dramatization looks like he’s going on an audition for a new boy band, or something....he’s hardly the pitiable creature we’re introduced to and learn to feel sorry for, despite the fact that he committed murder. Which was an act of utter desperation, after all.
I agree... Raskolnikov is mentally barely able to continue his life. He's shrewd at lying but he's definitely tired of it. When Porifiry offers him water is the difference between the UK and Russian versions.
I always imagined Porfiry as being old, I had to keep reminding myself that he was 35, but the picture in my head just stayed old anyway 😂 this is pretty close to how I imagined him looking.
Oh, yes indeed. It’s on record stated that Porfiry is verifiablyThe prototype: he pre-dates every relentless investigative inspector our world has come to know and to love. “Uh - one more thing...” 🔍
That is completely beyond doubt as Link and Levinson (who created Columbo for Universal Studios) said that this was their model. You can actually see how Peter Falk would have played this scene, as the character, and I am not sure if the TV detective actually might get closer to what Doestoyevsky writes than what is shown here , good though these performaces are. Colombo is deceptively unthreatening, flatters his suspects (he is always their "biggest fan") is short and physically unpreposessing. He just happens to be the greatest criminal detective that ever lived, an avenging angel, whose home we never see and who materialises at the crime scene from nowhere in every episode. As far as I can tell, it is the commonplace nature of Porfiry's observations and chat that lulls and disconcerts Raskolnikov and I am not sure that is quite caught here in translation.
That's true, but he's still supposed to be be old enough to act as the father figure for Raskolnikov, not just a colleague. Or at least the oldest brother who wishes the best for his younger sibling.
I’ll have to remind myself that the genius of that written moment, can’t be even half depicted on film. This scene was alright, missed a lot of details though, details that really made it all genius.
Good acting, but the scene doesn't fit to what's written in the book. Porfiry doesn't give any clue about his surprise, but here he says "I locked him.."
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Funny to see Palpatin as Porfiry. I honestly always pictured him as a sly, thin young man in police uniform. Now I'm waiting for Master Windou to come out of the closet.
I was in this production, as one of the students. It was in Petersburg about 2001 or so. I remember chatting with Sonya and a bit with Raskolnikov. I never talked to this actor who does Porfiry. Must say I prefer the 1980's version - except the ending. They completely butcher it. At least this one is the same as the novel.
Porifiry is supposed to be way more fatherly and way less psychopathic than this weird interpretation. But the acting is first class, so I shall resist myself from downvoting this..
Not in this scene. He becomes a little bit fatherly to him when he visits him at his house, this Porfiry also played that scene well, so no problems here.
Porfiry Petrovich: "It's not good, my friend ... You brutally killed the old lady by an axe just for one ruble!" Raskolnikov: "Porfiry Petrovich, one old lady - one ruble. One hundred old ladies - already one hundred rubles ... "
In the book the investigator is a 35 year old man, not a 60 something retired gent. By 60, he probably would've been on a pension, so this depiction isn't realistic. Also the abridged version of the book much better than the unabridged version, which is a sequence of windy and doleful sermons spoken from different characters. Very hard for me to believe, even in the 1860s, that people spoke as if reciting some lengthy essay, so dialogue in the book is a big turnoff for most readers.
Outstanding interpretation of Porfiry by Ian. Porfiry was always a character who fascinated me. There is an undercurrent of tongue-in-cheek insolence towards Raskolnikov. The best interplay of psychological warfare in any literature or film I've ever seen.
Came here to write exactly this. I'm not a fan of crime fiction, but the dialogues between Raskolnikow and Porfiry were the most intense I had ever read. Few, lets call it scenes, of a book, burned themselves as deep into my memory as these. Truly fascinating characters.
@@TheRaveJunkie and the entire time i felt uncomfortable as if i had done it. I didn't do it, of course.
@@TheRaveJunkie I agree. McDermeid´s Porfiry could not have been bettered.
@@Michael-ih2hl of course you didn't kill the pawn broker why would you even suggest it 🙄
I've always heard the Columbo character was based on Porfiry
Where's the part where Raskolnikov laughs like a maniac and says "that's right... I am Kira..."
Where's the part where Raskolnikov takes an axe and shouts "Hey, Paul!"
Man this is an excellent depiction of Porfiry. He seems so non threatening but he’s really a monster.
You should check out the Soviet 1969 version. Much better portrayal.
But why is he exactly a monster? Maybe just very passionate about his work and evidently very good at it. After all, there's nothing wrong about wanting to put a cold blooded killer behind bars.
@@rokmarkovinovic8653 you’re right, porfiry is a hero in this story. It’s just his tactics and manipulation. If a bad guy did it it’d be terrifying.
Perhaps just a little too much "business" in Ian McDiarmid's portrayal, although the laughter and odd affect of Porfiry are there in the text.
@@rokmarkovinovic8653 "monster" is a bit excessive but I think the point is that he's a master at dissembling and mindgames.
Shows that not all psychopaths are killers. Some of them are government officials. Porfiry played Raskolnikov’s emotions like a fiddle and loved every minute of it.
He had to do it
Why is Porfiry a psychopath? He is literally a good detective.
No man, credits to porfirio, he was a great detective and conducted his will masterfully imo
I wouldn't call him a psychopath. There's a difference between enjoying your job of bringing a murderer to justice and disregarding all justice altogether - which is generally how you would describe a true psychopath
He’s highly manipulative and seductive and downright Machiavellian in his detective work.
This really brings Profiry's slippery character to life. A top notch investigator unnerves the suspect.
Omg I had no idea Ian McDiarmid once played Porfiry, this is perfect.
You can see why this guy was a direct inspiration for Colombo, and how Crime and Punishment inspired the episode format :)
just one more thing Mr Raskolnikov
Holy sh*t the actor really did a good job portraying Porfiry..
Too bad the actor playing Raskolnikov is so utterly miscast. I couldn’t watch it, bc there’s no motivation for him to murder the pawn broker, is there? He doesn’t look skinny or sick, he’s not shivering with fever, he’s just not Raskolnikov. The BBC doesn’t usually make this kind of mistake.
I think he did a pretty good job
me too
@@voraciousreader3341 my version of raskolnikov is jonas khanwald from DARK
Fun fact: the guy who plays Porfiry is the same one who plays Palpatine in Star Wars. (Actor's name is Ian Mcdiarmid)
Varlius Stop waisting your Breath your talking to SH__ HEADs!
Raskolnikov looks like very careless and guilty in this scene than in the book where he calculates Porfiry's game.
Really outstanding, exactly how i imagined him in the book !
The lighting matched up with the symbolism is just.....perfect.
"Ah Raskolnikov, I wasn't expecting you at this hour"
"In the name of the Galactic Russian Republic, your under arrest marshal"
"Are you threatening me master lawer?"
"The jury will decide your fate"
"It's treason then"
"I AM the jury!"
I am Russia
The scenes between Porfiry and Raskolnikov are the best parts of the book
This Raskolnikov is too well fed, too clean and healthy looking, altogether too bland - in the novel Raskolnikov is a sick man, weak with hunger and shivering with fever, and with an intensity that this actor fails utterly to bring to the screen.
Couldn't agree more. Check out the full 1970 russian movie here in YT, that actor absolutely nails it.
I agree, 100%. I haven’t read the novel in years, but Dostoyevsky’s characterization of Raskolnikov is one of the first that hits you, and remains with you, until he breaks down. The guy in this dramatization looks like he’s going on an audition for a new boy band, or something....he’s hardly the pitiable creature we’re introduced to and learn to feel sorry for, despite the fact that he committed murder. Which was an act of utter desperation, after all.
I agree... Raskolnikov is mentally barely able to continue his life. He's shrewd at lying but he's definitely tired of it. When Porifiry offers him water is the difference between the UK and Russian versions.
this is why i hate literature professors and historians.
@@jarrodyuki7081 because they point out flaws in an adaptation?
Emperor Palpatine became an enthusiastic detective after his body was thrown from the Death Star!
I always imagined Porfiry as being old, I had to keep reminding myself that he was 35, but the picture in my head just stayed old anyway 😂 this is pretty close to how I imagined him looking.
I think that the character of Columbo was taken from Crime and Punishment.
Certainly inspired by Porfiriy.
Oh, yes indeed. It’s on record stated that Porfiry is verifiablyThe prototype: he pre-dates every relentless investigative inspector our world has come to know and to love.
“Uh - one more thing...” 🔍
Just ONE more thing...
I though the same while reading the book.
That is completely beyond doubt as Link and Levinson (who created Columbo for Universal Studios) said that this was their model. You can actually see how Peter Falk would have played this scene, as the character, and I am not sure if the TV detective actually might get closer to what Doestoyevsky writes than what is shown here , good though these performaces are.
Colombo is deceptively unthreatening, flatters his suspects (he is always their "biggest fan") is short and physically unpreposessing. He just happens to be the greatest criminal detective that ever lived, an avenging angel, whose home we never see and who materialises at the crime scene from nowhere in every episode. As far as I can tell, it is the commonplace nature of Porfiry's observations and chat that lulls and disconcerts Raskolnikov and I am not sure that is quite caught here in translation.
Porfiry is 35 years old, not 70...
RR RS Raskolnikov looks 40 here and he’s 22-23 in the book. Russia in the 1860’s must have been so tough people just aged so much younger.
@@esunsalmista Rather pointless joke...
That's true, but he's still supposed to be be old enough to act as the father figure for Raskolnikov, not just a colleague. Or at least the oldest brother who wishes the best for his younger sibling.
@@cheeseandonions9558 awww, glad im not the only one who low-key sees Porfiry like a father figure to Rodion
It’s true but dang that performance captured it well
2:48
My God, Ian McDiarmid's laugh is so iconic!
Palpatine vs The Master
so Emperor Palpatine was a coroner in Petersburg once
5:36 that rymed pretty well
I’ll have to remind myself that the genius of that written moment, can’t be even half depicted on film. This scene was alright, missed a lot of details though, details that really made it all genius.
What I loved about this version of Crime and Punishment is John Simm's performance. He is fascinating
shouldnt porfiry be fat and have a mustache?
Ben A one must imagine porfiry, fat.
Good acting, but the scene doesn't fit to what's written in the book. Porfiry doesn't give any clue about his surprise, but here he says "I locked him.."
Porfiry, the inspiration for Lt. Columbo
I'd heard that somewhere, is it true? That is very interesting, and would make sense
@@matthewgabbard6415 and Raskolnikov was the inspiration behind Light Yagami, aka Kira from Death Note
Darth Sidious is turning raskolnikov to the dark side
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Between his victim & Porfiry no wonder Raskolnikov went insane.
Kira vs L: russian edition
Lol i though the same
Porfiry is too sociable to be L and Raskolnikov is too expressive and empathetic to be Light, but the parallels are there.
Who cast scuffed Thom yorke/Roman Polanski as Raskolnikov?
this is „Emperor Palpatine” of XIXth century
Should've searched his feelings...
If anyone knows what's the name of the music used at the beginning of this scene, could please let me know? (and yes, the performence is outstanding)
Someone know where I can find this movie?
Directed horrendously, but it's cool to see this moment.
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Columbo if he got government accommodation vs fatherless Kira
Porfiry is not even 35 in the novel though 😂
What is Palpatine doing here?
Funny to see Palpatin as Porfiry. I honestly always pictured him as a sly, thin young man in police uniform. Now I'm waiting for Master Windou to come out of the closet.
how could you ever picture him as thin while reading the novel
@@funnylittlecreature well... guess I could. He always was very sly and sleaky for me, like a snake, so I gues that's how it happened.
@@michabuksalewicz8907 hm, I was originally being condescending and bitchy but you bring up a good point
@@funnylittlecreature hehe np, glad I kinda changed ur mind.
The Sidious level cackle haha.
Great! The hands themselves are applauding! Great Porfiry! Rodia - AWESOME! Where can I watch the full movie?
this perforamnce is gold
Could anyone tell me where can I find the whole film? This work is superb.
I am watching on Prime Video and it is included on Prime at no extra charge.
Where can I watch this movie. The performance looks great.
I watched the Russian version and it is just as good. I am really astounded by both actors
I can't find this film anywhere. I've searched a long time.
Prime
I was in this production, as one of the students. It was in Petersburg about 2001 or so. I remember chatting with Sonya and a bit with Raskolnikov. I never talked to this actor who does Porfiry. Must say I prefer the 1980's version - except the ending. They completely butcher it. At least this one is the same as the novel.
Great performance
What *is* the nature of a murderer ?
Human nature, the nature of a murderer that doesn't turn himself in though is of no one.
Great performance, the only problem with this is that in the book Porfiry is said to be around 35
Fr I was so confused in the beginning of the clip 😭😭
Porifiry is supposed to be way more fatherly and way less psychopathic than this weird interpretation. But the acting is first class, so I shall resist myself from downvoting this..
Not in this scene. He becomes a little bit fatherly to him when he visits him at his house, this Porfiry also played that scene well, so no problems here.
"downvoting" 😭😭
Damn it, that's why he seemed so familiar, it's the goddamn sith lord himself 😑🤣🤣🤣
Where can I watch the full movie?
Prime
What was the surprise in closet ?
just the guy that saw him go back to the flat asking about blood
It's a guy that raskolnikov asked about blood in the book.
How on earth did McDiarmid not get a BAFTA for this? He's amazing.
Excellent casting if for no other reaskn than that Porfiry kinda sounds like he did in the audiobook. But no, it was more than that.
where can I watch the whole movie??
In RUclips itself the whole film available in two parts by BBC
@@manus9158 can i have links ? couldn't find it
I think its not available outside the uk cause I can't find it either.
That isn’t one bit like the Porfiry I read about, he wasn’t a flibbertigibbet
Porfiry Petrovich:
"It's not good, my friend ... You brutally killed the old lady by an axe just for one ruble!"
Raskolnikov:
"Porfiry Petrovich, one old lady - one ruble. One hundred old ladies - already one hundred rubles ... "
Palpatine
Porfiry really reminds me of Hans Landa for some reason
its emperor palpatine.
I can bet porify knew about raskolnikov, and he was near getting the truth from him
anyone knows where can i find this movie?
yeah , write BBC crime and punishment 2002 and you'll find it as a playlist or a full movie that is about 3 to 4 hours long
This is the moment walter became Heisenberg
How old is Porfiry in the book?
35
i love darth sidious.
Some Sith Lord mind trick stuff right here
Porfiry looks like detective Columbo. He pretends to be a simpleton, but in fact he is very smart and attentive.
the horror ;)
Foda!
From 35 years old to 85 smh
I can see that the television detective, Columbo, is based on Porfiry.
Porfiry is fat though, and Raskolnikov as a young early 20s lad.
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In the book the investigator is a 35 year old man, not a 60 something retired gent. By 60, he probably would've been on a pension, so this depiction isn't realistic. Also the abridged version of the book much better than the unabridged version, which is a sequence of windy and doleful sermons spoken from different characters. Very hard for me to believe, even in the 1860s, that people spoke as if reciting some lengthy essay, so dialogue in the book is a big turnoff for most readers.
Believe it or not, they spoke like that. Also, they looked much older than we do now and grew up faster. Hello from Russia. )
You must not read 19th century literature then lol; most it’s written like that. Dostoyevsky had some of the most naturalistic dialogue of his time.
Russian Columbo
The book was better, this ain't even decent in comparison
Book is 100 times better. Terrible music . Hope someone remake it, it could be alot better
well, dostoyevski in english souds ridiculous.
They could at least fake a Russian accent.
It's just american movie. It's bad, bad, bad!!! Where russian spirit, suffers, pain???
What pain do you expect in this scene? It's brilliant.
да ладно, все вполне неплохо
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It was a great movie! And John $imm was excellent in it.Russian suffering are you serious !
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