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Boards of Canada, I have read that name several times, but never heard their music. Sometimes I imagine that if I do it will cause heavy nightmares of waterboarding, or that I have to start a snowboarding or skateboarding career.
dannyLEE lol The “boards” are referring to committee boards. As in “the board of education”. Some would say it refers to “bores” when referring to BOC if it’s not their cup of tea. But ya, when I first heard the name, I pictured surfers 🏄♀️ in cold Canadian waters or something weird. 😛
Some older Berhringer gear that failed on me was in continuous use. It would often be the powersupply that would go. In fairness something that was turned on for 5 years straight breaking down is pretty understandable.
I've been using a cheap Behringer EQ for over 12 years, even used it as a distortion unit by feeding it insane levels and cranking the input, still works to this day 🤷🏻♂️
Well, you gotta have sound *sources* to jam, and for the targeted time period UliVille wasn't making any sources. The synths didn't start rolling out the doors in Zhongshan until 2016*. At least you could say that the synths used were pre-existing conditions, so no additional money was forked out to get the bleeps and boops into the Behringer gear. So I say Florian gets a conditional pass for the conceptual ambiguity. :D * - If anyone has a Deepmind 12 that they're just dying to give away lemme email you a shipping address :P
He took it from a behringer video where they take the piss out of themselves and the pronounciation. It was funny ruclips.net/video/p6xFATEj3Z4/видео.html
I was expecting a multi-track recording of a TD-3 through the Virtualizer. Instead - sequencing by Arturia and the Rocket as a soundsource. That's cheating! :)
There are some real gems among the 90's Behri stuff, believe it or not :) The Composer compressor is actually not bad at all and the Ultrafex exciter is actually an awesome piece of gear if you're not too heavy handed. I have the Tube version and it sits happily next to a few pieces of hi-end gear. Their Bass V-amp pro served me very well, too.
@@AudioPilz I bought a bunch of those little UCA-202 USB interfaces. A couple of 'em are in the streaming audio setup at church, and I keep one one hand to hook up to the tape outs on the stereo to digitize LPs that I pick up at the Friends of the Library sale. Long as you watch the levels it's a perfectly adequate little interface, and at 30 clams or occasionally less, why not get a bunch of 'em? And I may well get one of their little mixers for my stage setup at church.
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Hilarious video, one of your best I dare say, and I did NOT expect the intro to be what it was. Excellent! I think it's pretty interesting what can happen when limitations force one to become extra creative. I tend to have better results with synths that aren't overly complicated for that reason. That, and I'm extremely indecisive so lots of options will result in endless hours of me noodling around and never actually recording anything.
Top drawer video action, man. Entertaining, and educational. Nothing warms my heart faster than budget gear deployed with style and imagination. Hats off!
Hey when you said you already heard this tune in the intro, you should really just play 5 seconds of the track again cause I can’t remember what the intro sounded like cause I wasn’t critically listening to it
I enjoyed this ((Behringer)) video covering early ((Behringer)) gear. Reminded me of the old ((Behringer)) mixer and compressor I started out with and used for about 6 years. My production and mixing skills at the time were so appalling that I have no idea if the desk sounded good or bad.
If it weren't for behringer, we wouldn't have studios and musical events in Brazil... Note: I didn't say that we have good studios or that the brand's equipment is cheap here.
New Behringer gear ; whole other story Crave , Neutron , Model D , most of the effect pedals from the last 5+ years , all really decent and still crazy affordable
The flat sounds is why my studio went from Mackie to Behringer back in the day. The last thing I want is the type of coloration added by Mackie boards or Focusrite Scarlett preamps today.
I just realized... I recently purchased a medieval torture device *cough* Behringer compact mixer for my church guitar/synth setup :D. It's actually a pretty darned solid little bit of kit, esp. compared to a lot of the other "low end" "inexpensive" baby mixers out there.
I have a few items from them and considering the cost I am quite satisfied - with one exception: The audio interface. I bought one that looked like yours at 2:45 except that it was red. It was very noisy. Not just hiss but there was also a sound in the background that sort of resembled an old floppy drive. I never used it after the first disappointment.
I've got three or four of their UCA202 interfaces (looks like yours only silver-grey). They sound okay enough for transcribing LPs into my laptop via the tape out on the stereo, but one of the ones we were using at church had hella USB power noise issues on the outputs, a constant high pitched whine that was not *quite* inaudible. Only one of the units exhibited the problem, so uh, yay quality control? :D
The first gear I ever bought was the pair of Behringer studio monitors B3030A Truth. It was 9 years ago and I am using them up to today. The quality is surprisingly good
Hilarious. And so true. How to record any single takes with a single Model D without hearing knob crackles. Let alone 4 chained in a row is one of the greatest mysteries in modern times.
I did a last minute, “stand in,” mixing gig for a friend’s band. When i showed the bass player brought me a.... very old behringer mixer. 🙂 What can i say, it got the job done.🤷♂️
Behringer are such a strange company, their clones of Roland Analogy gear is really good to my ear, i have the 101 & the 303 clones. Both sound good, think so far the 101 is the best as the originals went for so much money for so long £1,000+. Having a serious autoimmune illness being ill & in lock down waiting for surgery. I can’t work as a sound tech/engineer, I owned a sound system with a friend & the Behringer X-over limiter was really good for some reason. My friend recommended getting it, as my background was in DJ’ing with a bit of production ( it’s more production now), I was really not sure, had bought really good British amps Matrix amps to power out sound system. To be fair to Behringer it was a good price of kit that never failed protected the amps & speaker cones, ever when bad DJ’s playing dubstep were in the red on their mixer, we would turn it down on our mixing desk. The only time it fail was when we did a soundsystem link up in a venue the owner told us could handle nearly 10k if sound. The venues trip switch went as a DJ once again redlined a drop as he had illegally downloaded the track. Behringer, pioneer copy mixers were the worst, as I got more gigs, if the gig was local or used our sound system or was a night we helped put on. Due how bad the sound was on a behringer ( plus so many DJ’s redline on a night) especially when clipping or somehow the que buttons would work in reverse plus stuff like the mixer just cutting out even in the green. The low, mid & High frequency knobs not lowering the frequency’s for a decent mix. I bought an Ecler & would just install it myself set up limits on the mixer so DJ could not go crazy they could just look at use on the desk to put the sound up. Allen & health were good Mixer’s, they had the volume pots on the back of the mixer, near the outs so you could set them to a decent level and most DJ’s did not know they were their so it forced them to trust us on volume levels or for them to use the faders. Now Behringer seem to have cracked cheap products that sound good. Saying this my TD3 and TD101 will most likely fall apart next time I use them.
Behringer Composer Pro and Virtualizer are classics! The former is probably the best noise gate of that era (if ever). The Virtualizer, irritating to configure, but the DSP is solid! The gates on the Virtualizer! Probably the most underrated and understated DSP of the old hardware gear.
The first Behringer device I bought was a BCF2000 midi controller with motorized faders around 2005. This thing is still great. I avoided most other Behringer gear for the next 10 years until they started making some decent mixers and analog guitar pedals (which I completely recommend for those on a budget).
That Jam was dope, ("Uli Behringer just cloned your mom", lol that killed me). I have some Behringer gear, specially guitar gear (amps, pedals), And I'm ok with them. The quality has improved in recent years but even yet, there are some old gear that has become "collectible" for some reason, like some guitar pedals that now are very hard to find. And now that they are focused on synths they are getting good reception. I've noticed that the most of people that give bad critics to Behringer usually focused his hate in the fact of some of their gear are made of plastic or any cheap material. Not for be "terrible". But I've heard that they had some quality control issues on their first years and there was some probability of get a defective product.
Still using the old Behringer mixer and audio interface I got in ~2009. They're both pretty bad, but it just hasn't been a big enough issue yet to spend $200+ to fix.
I'd record that on a Tascam 144 with the noise reduction on stun for extra phase incoherency. But hey, I'm still scarred by the experience of using a Seck mixer. You young'uns have a much better class of techno-junk than us oldiewonks. I briefly owned a not-quite-free Bare-ringrrr quad "compressor" thing. Unfortunately, it operated like a microwave (multifunctional, woohoo!) and cooked everything inside it. I love the smell of boiled phenol in the morning. The salvaged front panel knobs hung around for a few years as a grim reminder, until I found a zombie DAB radio at my local flea market for a solitary pound sterling, which they miraculously fitted. It was great while it lasted. (about two weeks). The built-in obsolescence was magically transferable to other junk via basic osmosis. Conclusion. Keep that foamy fire extinguisher handy. Them's proper toasty.
They are a weird approximation of a mixer. The theory is great, but the practice is grim in every possible way. The best cure for the Seckness is a dirty Mackie.
Word on the street is that Ultrarack mixers used to spontaneously go on fire! But they made some funny noise in the power supply or something as an early warning sign I think, so there was no need to worry. I've got some Behringer in my own basement (bedroom shelf), mainly my first poverty student setup of a Xenyx USB and an Xm8500 which despite the amount of people who praise that mic, I found it made me sound like...a paper bag. Where other cheap mics sound thin and brittle, Behringer remedies this by instead making their mics dull and muddy and just as harsh. The newer UMC interfaces are an absolute steal though, despite the Hi-Z mode unfortunately having a similiar trademark tone to the XM8500 when used with humbuckers. I've seen many online speak badly of the old AKG C1000 saying it's the worst mic they ever used. It doesn't appear to get much love from anyone, except interestingly enough for the engineers at KEXP who always use it for hi-hats. Sounds like a candidate for a future episode.
@@AudioPilz thank you for the recommandation :p fortunately I have already a good amount of cheap rack effect units, so no "cheap rack craving" for now but I'll keep that in mind ;)
those old mixing tables from Bhehrinhgher were working like a charm during 6 months, after you need WD40. Not especially for the model you get, without faders (lol), but the 16 fader ones.
"Pre-X32 Behringer mixers are medieval torture devices" I mean, what would you expect from a cheap Mackie clone? Mackie mixers are decent but basic, and already quite affordable. To cut costs on a clone of one of those you're basically forced to sacrifice quality.
Pretty much any time I had equipment that just stopped working, it was Behringer. Especially those little unserviceable buttons that just stop *buttoning*
Wow! I've didn't thought that Uli is that old! Now I'm starting to understand some of the design choices in their synths... If I get the process right.
I have an 802 mixer exactly like the one you bought - and I love it! Had it for years and it's never been a hassle. (Bought it at a pawn shop, not new.)
I've had good and bad luck with (bay-Ring-her!) gear over the years. Used an 802 mixer for awhile until I got ahold of my Focusrite Scarlett and realized I could get better audio going direct through that - it sits in my closet now. Also bought an Ultra-G direct box/cabinet emulator for my guitar amp - the cab simulation had more hiss than signal, though as a straight DI box with the sim bypassed it works fine (I understand getting a good Ultra-G is a crapshoot at best). Also had one of their brown stomp compressors for awhile - sucked all the bass and mids out of the signal! (Replaced that with a JangleBox, which is a must if you record electric 12-string and Strats). The ones I do like are the SuperFuzz SF300 stomp (plastic case and all, has two basic settings, Cramps and Fu Manchu). And the UFO202 USB audio interface has gained cult status in the Hackintosh community as a quick and dirty way to get audio working on our builds while we sort out getting the onboard audio to work, and again sounds fine.
2:05 OMG did Behringer make a clone of the MidiVerb??? 0:51 And it got onto the shelf before it was opened, via the same time portal which brought the MFB 501?
sometimes i use a old midiverb 2 in conjunction with the klark reverb unit in my behringer mixer, and I love that sound. Sounds nothing natural, but it colors the sound in a nice way for lush strings.
I had an 8 channel mixer with FX. It's led screen lights broke 1 by 1. I had 1 of the DJ Pioneer wannabe mixers. The crossfader was SO bad sold it quick. The Neutron sounds nice. Wish it could store presets. Don't think I need it. May get it.
I'am using a 8x10 Basscabinet from Bäh 'ringer since 15+ years with our semiprofessionell hard Rock coverband. This thing has seen hundrets of stages and citys and rough stagehands......an it still works. Nowadays it is more of a statement for me than a cheap solution to use my trusty old Bechäinger. Thanx for your Video. Oh..btw.:And I love my new crave!
Let me jump in with some extra info... I compulsively bought their first analog modules, the Neutron and Model D. So, after less then 2 years of use, both share the same damn problem - the volume knob that's already cracking at every touch. I wonder if it's a common thing, I would bet that it will be aknowledged by more and more buyers. That being said, they still do sound huge + I wish they would still be building the full old pedal line. The digital delay, the Memory Man clone, of dear - still, the ones they're still releasing are worth every dime. imho. Actually, the digital delay is already selling SH at around 80 bucks. Finders Keepers :)
So, just to be late to the party, dressed the same as someone else, and make noise (you know, like Behringer gear), I thought I’d say... I love my Crave.
I started playing my MicroKorg through the Behringer Ultragain tube pre amp after watching this video and I haven't stopped since... because... well, it sounds pretty good. Like a match made in bad gear heaven.... oh and for some extra bad gear spice, I run it through the Line6 M5 stompbox modeller - a much hated guitar pedal that has... midi??
@@AudioPilz Free percussive samples just by turning the microphone. I wonder how many different ones you can get out of it. And i mean there's little to worry about, i think it's just a 16mm electret, so it's not like there's some delicate exposed membrane or anything, so it should be fine.
I've recently decided to avoid Behringer products not because the gear is bad, but because the way they do business is bad. They sue forum goes who complain about their gear, mock critics of their products and are overall toxic bullies on the playground. Not recommended. Watch some videos by Benn Jordan on the subject if you want to know more.
I really don't get all the Behringer hate. I have got an early 90s single stage de-noiser that works great, and with all the other gear from that time in my rack, I _need_ it to get the hiss level down to "acceptable - not great, but acceptable". It's basically just a dynamic low pass filter, but it has no audible latency and it does exactly what it sets out to do. I never understood why people called Behringer mixers "noise generators", but then I bought my mixer/USB interface after 2010, so maybe quality had already recovered by then? Around the same time, I got myself a Behringer phono pre-amp and USB interface, and again, it was really good in quality.
in 1999 me and my mates started a sound system, at the beginning we used a behringer xover, one day we bought a second hand dbx; that only change made our stuff sound twice as loud and present and way much punchyer. Since that day i hate beringer, oh and let's not even talk about theyre power supplies.... (turning that compresser on must of reminded things to a lot of people)
You dont get it... Before Mackie, there were darkness in the category of affordable mixers. Before Behringer there were not darkness in the category of dirt cheap mixers... there were the seventh circle of hell filled with the creations of Belsebub. Like wildly varying frequency response on different channels, horrible noise, little headroom, nasty distortion etc. Then Behringer (probably unethically) copied all the ideas from Mackie, used cheaper components and labour. And suddenly there were dirt cheap mixers where the sound you put in came out relatively unharmed. You could be poor and sound quite good. It was revolutionary at the time.
I was unfortunate enough to use a Xenyx, the more recent line of mixers that were supposed to be a step up from the Eurorack (I cant even imagine how bad they must have been). How do I put it? I'm pretty sure when I measured the signal to noise ratio I ended getting a lower number AFTER A weighting it. Yes, not only was it's -66 db hiss (best possible reading below peak) much to loud for any preamp or mixer, but the noise floor resonated at 2.5 hz. Right in the middle of the hearing range.
Well, what do I know? I didn't have much money in the early 90's so I used two Mackie 1604:s and the Mackie MixerMixer. Soon I needed more channels and added a Behringer MX2642A to the MixerMixer forming a 48 channel mixer. 8 channels on the 2642 summed first the Adat and later the DAW. I have made several records with that setup. Pre Xenyx sounds really horrible... or virtually indistinguishable from the Mackie's. What you put in is what you get out. Because it sounds good I still haven't replaced that weird combo. Btw I have a Xenyx 802 as volume control for the monitors. That one replaced a pre xenyx 802 who did the Behringer lemon thing and died after ten years. Power failiure. Neither of the 802:s are noisy. I would have thrown them out immediately if they were.
@@anderswikholm957 well they're fine as a monitoring tool for a tracking studio or maybe even a DJ set but it's a just a dreadful thing to record from or have anywhere not at the end of a chain. Any compression will bring that godawful 2.5 khz noise out.
@@samnicholson5051 I have recorded albums with that setup, and lots of compression. If there were any godawful noise I would have thrown the mixers out immediately.
@@AudioPilz well you could up the price to 200, but more than 400 i think would be too much, OR you could change it to include SOME digital stuff like a workstation but you'd still have to record and do everything outside of the daw (like the olden' days)
Heh, your videos are awesome:) I like the way you tell the story and topics that you touch:) almost all my home setup is built around them and its done its job:) With soldering skills its possible to push these products far better but its another story:) And again extremly nice videos:)
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Why spend tons of money on new gear to get that old muddy Boards of Canada sound when you can just use old muddy sounding gear for 100.00.
That hits the nail on the head😅
Goddamn that's a good comment.
Boards of Canada, I have read that name several times, but never heard their music.
Sometimes I imagine that if I do it will cause heavy nightmares of waterboarding, or that I have to start a snowboarding or skateboarding career.
dannyLEE lol The “boards” are referring to committee boards. As in “the board of education”. Some would say it refers to “bores” when referring to BOC if it’s not their cup of tea. But ya, when I first heard the name, I pictured surfers 🏄♀️ in cold Canadian waters or something weird. 😛
@@GrootsieTheDog thank you for this new information, I see..., I´m constructing my own kind of BOC in my imagination :D
I love how you let others pronounce "Behringer" for you haha all the different ways people say it made it priceless. Good humor!
Thanks!
@@AudioPilz I was wondering if all those people pronouncing "Behringer" worked for the company? :D
People say it differently? Strange.. Why don't say it accurately instead of making something up?
@@mrz80 Yup! It is actually made by the company, it is on their official channel.
@@bogdanalexandru4463 So how does Uli pronounce it? I figure if it's his name he ought to be the final authority on how it's supposed to be said?
Some older Berhringer gear that failed on me was in continuous use. It would often be the powersupply that would go. In fairness something that was turned on for 5 years straight breaking down is pretty understandable.
On the other hand, there is a lot of audio gear that is turned on for decades straight and serviced in use
@@AudioPilz - usually not in the budget space but I get your point.
Behringer products lasting for 5 years? thats an outlier. youre just very lucky.
Yeah, my Uli 802 has been plugged-in and on for over 8 years and has developed noise issues. Would it have killed them to include a power switch?
I've been using a cheap Behringer EQ for over 12 years, even used it as a distortion unit by feeding it insane levels and cranking the input, still works to this day 🤷🏻♂️
I love the bilingual pronunciation clips,
“Zhongshan” was gold.
Thanks! It's dangerous to even try ;)
Turns out, as of yesterday, you're allowed to use a Keystep in a Behringer-only jam!
It seems to turn into a comedy ;)
and a Waldorf synth.
Well, you gotta have sound *sources* to jam, and for the targeted time period UliVille wasn't making any sources. The synths didn't start rolling out the doors in Zhongshan until 2016*. At least you could say that the synths used were pre-existing conditions, so no additional money was forked out to get the bleeps and boops into the Behringer gear. So I say Florian gets a conditional pass for the conceptual ambiguity. :D
* - If anyone has a Deepmind 12 that they're just dying to give away lemme email you a shipping address :P
I particularly enjoyed the pronunciation debate clips - “beh-ring- gher” vs “bear-inj-err”
German native speaker here. Always funny to get one's name butchered :)
Everyone knows it's pronounced "Bo-ranger"
@@JDLesemajeste 🐻-⭕-air
@Contentibus surprisingly good reveb & fx
He took it from a behringer video where they take the piss out of themselves and the pronounciation. It was funny ruclips.net/video/p6xFATEj3Z4/видео.html
wow this video is like a time capsule of the past
I know, it's creepy...
Dude, these meme videos are priceless. + i really need the Airbase at some point in my life.
Thanks! Jomox 4 life!!!
I was expecting a multi-track recording of a TD-3 through the Virtualizer. Instead - sequencing by Arturia and the Rocket as a soundsource. That's cheating! :)
Agreed, that would have been 100 bucks too;)
There are some real gems among the 90's Behri stuff, believe it or not :) The Composer compressor is actually not bad at all and the Ultrafex exciter is actually an awesome piece of gear if you're not too heavy handed. I have the Tube version and it sits happily next to a few pieces of hi-end gear. Their Bass V-amp pro served me very well, too.
The icy reverb is amazingly good !
Yeah, surprisingly...
you should do more of these challenges!
Great idea, thanks for posting!
2026 calling.
Behringer has now become the poshest upmarket brand in the universe
This was a great one... everyone has some behringer stuff somewhere on their setup..
Absolutely, it's like duct tape ;)
@@AudioPilz I bought a bunch of those little UCA-202 USB interfaces. A couple of 'em are in the streaming audio setup at church, and I keep one one hand to hook up to the tape outs on the stereo to digitize LPs that I pick up at the Friends of the Library sale. Long as you watch the levels it's a perfectly adequate little interface, and at 30 clams or occasionally less, why not get a bunch of 'em? And I may well get one of their little mixers for my stage setup at church.
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This is one of the most heartwarming comments I have read in a long time. Thank you!
Hilarious video, one of your best I dare say, and I did NOT expect the intro to be what it was. Excellent!
I think it's pretty interesting what can happen when limitations force one to become extra creative. I tend to have better results with synths that aren't overly complicated for that reason. That, and I'm extremely indecisive so lots of options will result in endless hours of me noodling around and never actually recording anything.
Thank you!
Dammmn I love your channel mate. Tons of support from Colombia.
Thanks!
Top drawer video action, man. Entertaining, and educational.
Nothing warms my heart faster than budget gear deployed with style and imagination. Hats off!
It warms my heart to hear this! THX!
Hey when you said you already heard this tune in the intro, you should really just play 5 seconds of the track again cause I can’t remember what the intro sounded like cause I wasn’t critically listening to it
I was hoping for another view from you😅
@@AudioPilz This is one of the greatest responses to a comment EVAR! You have style, class, and capitalism. No wonder you’re a Bond fan ;)
My first guitar was a Behringer strat clone. I felt bad for the person I sold it to when I got another one.
I assumed that those guitars were not Fender custom shop specs ;)
I enjoyed this ((Behringer)) video covering early ((Behringer)) gear. Reminded me of the old ((Behringer)) mixer and compressor I started out with and used for about 6 years.
My production and mixing skills at the time were so appalling that I have no idea if the desk sounded good or bad.
Thanks, Alex! Blast from the past for me as well. Old Behringer stuff still doesn't make life easier ;)
If it weren't for behringer, we wouldn't have studios and musical events in Brazil...
Note: I didn't say that we have good studios or that the brand's equipment is cheap here.
True that, you can get stuff going for next to nothing!
You are great man! Very good ideas and put together! Thanks!
Thanks!
I've been blessed by discovering your channel today
Thank you so much!
Wow, your editing has gotten MUCH MUCH better lmfao.
Thank you 😅
Awesome video, I really enjoyed this one! Also, that weightlifter at 4:07 really cracked me up for some reason.
Thanks! ARNOLD!!!
I'm here because this video was mentioned in the latest Bad Gear episode.....this grand glimpse into the distant past...
Thanks! It's been 84 years;)
That's nearly the way I've done my very first demos about 20 years ago. It worked well so far.
Simpler times!
New Behringer gear ; whole other story Crave , Neutron , Model D , most of the effect pedals from the last 5+ years , all really decent and still crazy affordable
So true, they really upped their game
Behringer has mostly turned itself around. HOWEVER, their DJ mixers are still a crime against humanity.
The flat sounds is why my studio went from Mackie to Behringer back in the day. The last thing I want is the type of coloration added by Mackie boards or Focusrite Scarlett preamps today.
Behringer really upped the game over the last few years
Behringer the Robinhood of the Musicans!
...and (according to what I've heard) the Sheriff of Nottingham for its employees
@@AudioPilz Bummer
I just realized... I recently purchased a medieval torture device *cough* Behringer compact mixer for my church guitar/synth setup :D. It's actually a pretty darned solid little bit of kit, esp. compared to a lot of the other "low end" "inexpensive" baby mixers out there.
Yeah, these are hard to kill;)
I have a few items from them and considering the cost I am quite satisfied - with one exception: The audio interface. I bought one that looked like yours at 2:45 except that it was red. It was very noisy. Not just hiss but there was also a sound in the background that sort of resembled an old floppy drive. I never used it after the first disappointment.
That audio interface indeed sucks really bad
I've got three or four of their UCA202 interfaces (looks like yours only silver-grey). They sound okay enough for transcribing LPs into my laptop via the tape out on the stereo, but one of the ones we were using at church had hella USB power noise issues on the outputs, a constant high pitched whine that was not *quite* inaudible. Only one of the units exhibited the problem, so uh, yay quality control? :D
Dude your editing skills 💯
Thanks, man!
The first gear I ever bought was the pair of Behringer studio monitors B3030A Truth. It was 9 years ago and I am using them up to today. The quality is surprisingly good
LOL your memes are the best
Thank you!!!
Hilarious. And so true. How to record any single takes with a single Model D without hearing knob crackles. Let alone 4 chained in a row is one of the greatest mysteries in modern times.
Thanks! I thought the D was clean...
discovered your channel today and i really like your videos and the humor
Thanks!
Dude, love your content!
Thanks!
Pure hilarity and truth here man. Great vids. I'm not the biggest Behringer fan ever but they do have a place and the value cannot be beat.
Peace
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I'm starting to get your idea about "bad gear". Subbed.
Welcome to the channel!
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I did a last minute, “stand in,” mixing gig for a friend’s band. When i showed the bass player brought me a.... very old behringer mixer. 🙂
What can i say, it got the job done.🤷♂️
Know that feeling. It usually does!
I love your videos!! Absolute entertainment!
Thanks!
Subscribed! Great vids man... keep em coming.
Thank you so much!
Thank you for excellent sense of humor.
Thank you for yours!
Putting a Effects unit in a nerf gun box.
Now what’s what I call DIY.
I like that can-do attitude😅
AudioPilz
I do it all the time.
Top production. Gets the point across.
Who else wants this episode again? How about a $1000 Roland challenge?
Buys you 20% of an original 808;)
Behringer are such a strange company, their clones of Roland Analogy gear is really good to my ear, i have the 101 & the 303 clones.
Both sound good, think so far the 101 is the best as the originals went for so much money for so long £1,000+.
Having a serious autoimmune illness being ill & in lock down waiting for surgery.
I can’t work as a sound tech/engineer, I owned a sound system with a friend & the Behringer X-over limiter was really good for some reason.
My friend recommended getting it, as my background was in DJ’ing with a bit of production ( it’s more production now), I was really not sure, had bought really good British amps Matrix amps to power out sound system.
To be fair to Behringer it was a good price of kit that never failed protected the amps & speaker cones, ever when bad DJ’s playing dubstep were in the red on their mixer, we would turn it down on our mixing desk.
The only time it fail was when we did a soundsystem link up in a venue the owner told us could handle nearly 10k if sound.
The venues trip switch went as a DJ once again redlined a drop as he had illegally downloaded the track.
Behringer, pioneer copy mixers were the worst, as I got more gigs, if the gig was local or used our sound system or was a night we helped put on.
Due how bad the sound was on a behringer ( plus so many DJ’s redline on a night) especially when clipping or somehow the que buttons would work in reverse plus stuff like the mixer just cutting out even in the green.
The low, mid & High frequency knobs not lowering the frequency’s for a decent mix.
I bought an Ecler & would just install it myself set up limits on the mixer so DJ could not go crazy they could just look at use on the desk to put the sound up.
Allen & health were good Mixer’s, they had the volume pots on the back of the mixer, near the outs so you could set them to a decent level and most DJ’s did not know they were their so it forced them to trust us on volume levels or for them to use the faders.
Now Behringer seem to have cracked cheap products that sound good.
Saying this my TD3 and TD101 will most likely fall apart next time I use them.
All the best!
Ive been watching audiopilz for months now and this is the oldest and weirdly one of the funniest videos ive seen
Thank you!!!
Those Behringer sound bites killed me! 🤣
Behringer Composer Pro and Virtualizer are classics! The former is probably the best noise gate of that era (if ever). The Virtualizer, irritating to configure, but the DSP is solid! The gates on the Virtualizer! Probably the most underrated and understated DSP of the old hardware gear.
The first Behringer device I bought was a BCF2000 midi controller with motorized faders around 2005. This thing is still great. I avoided most other Behringer gear for the next 10 years until they started making some decent mixers and analog guitar pedals (which I completely recommend for those on a budget).
Worked a lot with BCFs. Great original Behringer gear!
Don't blame the tools!
I'd never!
Twenty years ago Behringer gear was all I could afford, and I loved it jbecause it just worked. Until it didn't.
Yeah, had to work with that stuff for years!
That Jam was dope, ("Uli Behringer just cloned your mom", lol that killed me). I have some Behringer gear, specially guitar gear (amps, pedals), And I'm ok with them. The quality has improved in recent years but even yet, there are some old gear that has become "collectible" for some reason, like some guitar pedals that now are very hard to find. And now that they are focused on synths they are getting good reception. I've noticed that the most of people that give bad critics to Behringer usually focused his hate in the fact of some of their gear are made of plastic or any cheap material. Not for be "terrible". But I've heard that they had some quality control issues on their first years and there was some probability of get a defective product.
Thanks! Back in the 90s and early zero years working with Behringer stuff was hell. The brand changed profoundly!
The mocking of Lars Ulrich is kind of a running gag in her i reckon xD
Best. Drummer. Ever.
@@AudioPilz Agreed. Except for, you know, dudes.
Still using the old Behringer mixer and audio interface I got in ~2009. They're both pretty bad, but it just hasn't been a big enough issue yet to spend $200+ to fix.
They do work (most of the time;)
I'd record that on a Tascam 144 with the noise reduction on stun for extra phase incoherency. But hey, I'm still scarred by the experience of using a Seck mixer. You young'uns have a much better class of techno-junk than us oldiewonks.
I briefly owned a not-quite-free Bare-ringrrr quad "compressor" thing. Unfortunately, it operated like a microwave (multifunctional, woohoo!) and cooked everything inside it. I love the smell of boiled phenol in the morning.
The salvaged front panel knobs hung around for a few years as a grim reminder, until I found a zombie DAB radio at my local flea market for a solitary pound sterling, which they miraculously fitted. It was great while it lasted. (about two weeks). The built-in obsolescence was magically transferable to other junk via basic osmosis.
Conclusion. Keep that foamy fire extinguisher handy. Them's proper toasty.
Seck mixers have a great layout but they sound a bit harsh!
They are a weird approximation of a mixer. The theory is great, but the practice is grim in every possible way.
The best cure for the Seckness is a dirty Mackie.
Word on the street is that Ultrarack mixers used to spontaneously go on fire! But they made some funny noise in the power supply or something as an early warning sign I think, so there was no need to worry. I've got some Behringer in my own basement (bedroom shelf), mainly my first poverty student setup of a Xenyx USB and an Xm8500 which despite the amount of people who praise that mic, I found it made me sound like...a paper bag. Where other cheap mics sound thin and brittle, Behringer remedies this by instead making their mics dull and muddy and just as harsh. The newer UMC interfaces are an absolute steal though, despite the Hi-Z mode unfortunately having a similiar trademark tone to the XM8500 when used with humbuckers.
I've seen many online speak badly of the old AKG C1000 saying it's the worst mic they ever used. It doesn't appear to get much love from anyone, except interestingly enough for the engineers at KEXP who always use it for hi-hats. Sounds like a candidate for a future episode.
Not word on the streets - scientific fact;) Always hated the C1000 but made quite some nice recordings with it...
I'm ao happy I stumbled apon this channel!!
So am I
lol thank you very fun episode, makes me wanna buy one of those virtualizer now XD
The Virtualizer as actually pretty good
@@AudioPilz thank you for the recommandation :p fortunately I have already a good amount of cheap rack effect units, so no "cheap rack craving" for now but I'll keep that in mind ;)
those old mixing tables from Bhehrinhgher were working like a charm during 6 months, after you need WD40. Not especially for the model you get, without faders (lol), but the 16 fader ones.
Yeah, these didn't age so well
the WD40 thing reminds me of my first DJ Mixer by reloop 😂
Damn that jam w/the rocket was wicked!!! Is there an extended version?
Sorry, not for that one
Cool gear bro! 🎛🎚🔌
Does its job. THX, bro!
"Pre-X32 Behringer mixers are medieval torture devices"
I mean, what would you expect from a cheap Mackie clone? Mackie mixers are decent but basic, and already quite affordable. To cut costs on a clone of one of those you're basically forced to sacrifice quality.
True that!
Pretty much any time I had equipment that just stopped working, it was Behringer. Especially those little unserviceable buttons that just stop *buttoning*
As is tradition, it stopped working during live shows in front of a lot of people😂😂😂
Wow! I've didn't thought that Uli is that old! Now I'm starting to understand some of the design choices in their synths... If I get the process right.
I have an 802 mixer exactly like the one you bought - and I love it! Had it for years and it's never been a hassle. (Bought it at a pawn shop, not new.)
It works like a charm
I've had good and bad luck with (bay-Ring-her!) gear over the years. Used an 802 mixer for awhile until I got ahold of my Focusrite Scarlett and realized I could get better audio going direct through that - it sits in my closet now. Also bought an Ultra-G direct box/cabinet emulator for my guitar amp - the cab simulation had more hiss than signal, though as a straight DI box with the sim bypassed it works fine (I understand getting a good Ultra-G is a crapshoot at best). Also had one of their brown stomp compressors for awhile - sucked all the bass and mids out of the signal! (Replaced that with a JangleBox, which is a must if you record electric 12-string and Strats).
The ones I do like are the SuperFuzz SF300 stomp (plastic case and all, has two basic settings, Cramps and Fu Manchu). And the UFO202 USB audio interface has gained cult status in the Hackintosh community as a quick and dirty way to get audio working on our builds while we sort out getting the onboard audio to work, and again sounds fine.
Thanks for the JangleBox suggestion. Didn't know that one
2:16 That's my favorite B E H R I N G E R
The pronunciation or the mixer?
@@AudioPilz pronunciation obv
I’ve got one of those preamps and I use it with my 4 track and it sounds pretty decent to me
Those surprised me in a good way
2:05 OMG did Behringer make a clone of the MidiVerb???
0:51 And it got onto the shelf before it was opened, via the same time portal which brought the MFB 501?
Oh I guess that's the Ultramizer on the shelf. They all look like chrome Alesis modules to me and I want them.
The Virtualizer is actually pretty rad;)
sometimes i use a old midiverb 2 in conjunction with the klark reverb unit in my behringer mixer, and I love that sound. Sounds nothing natural, but it colors the sound in a nice way for lush strings.
Love the midiverb for synthetic sound scapes
I can do it for 20$ and run a feedback loop and one pedal XD
Behringer. The Rough Country of Audio Gear.
;)
I had an 8 channel mixer with FX. It's led screen lights broke 1 by 1. I had 1 of the DJ Pioneer wannabe mixers. The crossfader was SO bad sold it quick. The Neutron sounds nice. Wish it could store presets. Don't think I need it. May get it.
Behringer is a mixed bag...
I'am using a 8x10 Basscabinet from Bäh 'ringer since 15+ years with our semiprofessionell hard Rock coverband. This thing has seen hundrets of stages and citys and rough stagehands......an it still works.
Nowadays it is more of a statement for me than a cheap solution to use my trusty old Bechäinger.
Thanx for your Video.
Oh..btw.:And I love my new crave!
The crave, I was sooooo close to just ordering it so many times;)
@@AudioPilz ...do it! You will not regret it.
Lol I have that mixer on my desk right now!
Hahaha. This was brilliant! :D
Thanks!
Let me jump in with some extra info... I compulsively bought their first analog modules, the Neutron and Model D. So, after less then 2 years of use, both share the same damn problem - the volume knob that's already cracking at every touch. I wonder if it's a common thing, I would bet that it will be aknowledged by more and more buyers. That being said, they still do sound huge + I wish they would still be building the full old pedal line. The digital delay, the Memory Man clone, of dear - still, the ones they're still releasing are worth every dime. imho. Actually, the digital delay is already selling SH at around 80 bucks. Finders Keepers :)
Yeah, Behringer is a double-edged sword...
Have you tried using any contact cleaner on them? Cracking as in crackle?
So, just to be late to the party, dressed the same as someone else, and make noise (you know, like Behringer gear), I thought I’d say... I love my Crave.
Crave is a really nice and incredibly cheap synth
I started playing my MicroKorg through the Behringer Ultragain tube pre amp after watching this video and I haven't stopped since... because... well, it sounds pretty good. Like a match made in bad gear heaven.... oh and for some extra bad gear spice, I run it through the Line6 M5 stompbox modeller - a much hated guitar pedal that has... midi??
Remarkable preamp for the money!
I love the microphone
It's actually pretty nice
@@AudioPilz Free percussive samples just by turning the microphone. I wonder how many different ones you can get out of it. And i mean there's little to worry about, i think it's just a 16mm electret, so it's not like there's some delicate exposed membrane or anything, so it should be fine.
I've recently decided to avoid Behringer products not because the gear is bad, but because the way they do business is bad. They sue forum goes who complain about their gear, mock critics of their products and are overall toxic bullies on the playground. Not recommended. Watch some videos by Benn Jordan on the subject if you want to know more.
Yeah, Ben's vids are great!
I really don't get all the Behringer hate. I have got an early 90s single stage de-noiser that works great, and with all the other gear from that time in my rack, I _need_ it to get the hiss level down to "acceptable - not great, but acceptable". It's basically just a dynamic low pass filter, but it has no audible latency and it does exactly what it sets out to do. I never understood why people called Behringer mixers "noise generators", but then I bought my mixer/USB interface after 2010, so maybe quality had already recovered by then? Around the same time, I got myself a Behringer phono pre-amp and USB interface, and again, it was really good in quality.
Pre 2010 Behringer gear mostly was a total nightmare
Otherwise great work... I love the vids
Thanks!
Low-key *in love* with Old Behringer's Ultraverb Pro... a unit so good, they immediately filled it with glue and took it off the market
🔊👂💯➡️🗑️
That one truly surprised me, nice machine!
They did WHAT now?
Seriously, all this great is insanely cheap compared to most countries !
Yeah, used market around here is pretty relaxed
Still use two of those preamps for sampling and tracking drums. Works well
It surprised me - in a good way...
I LOL'd, even to an old sub par performing engineer this was funny af.
Thanks!
in 1999 me and my mates started a sound system, at the beginning we used a behringer xover, one day we bought a second hand dbx; that only change made our stuff sound twice as loud and present and way much punchyer. Since that day i hate beringer, oh and let's not even talk about theyre power supplies.... (turning that compresser on must of reminded things to a lot of people)
The compressor bit was not faked, believe me 😅
Got a Deepmind and a Neutron. The USB interface in the DM12 went bad, but that was the cause of a bad hub, else : Superb!
Behringer really changed for the better
@@AudioPilz that "cork sniffer" video seemed pretty out of order though?
@@xinaesthetic that's a different story. Not funny at all
You dont get it...
Before Mackie, there were darkness in the category of affordable mixers. Before Behringer there were not darkness in the category of dirt cheap mixers... there were the seventh circle of hell filled with the creations of Belsebub. Like wildly varying frequency response on different channels, horrible noise, little headroom, nasty distortion etc. Then Behringer (probably unethically) copied all the ideas from Mackie, used cheaper components and labour. And suddenly there were dirt cheap mixers where the sound you put in came out relatively unharmed. You could be poor and sound quite good. It was revolutionary at the time.
Well, I liked (and still like) those budget early 80s Studiomaster mixers (I even have a stereo channel in a custom rack)
I was unfortunate enough to use a Xenyx, the more recent line of mixers that were supposed to be a step up from the Eurorack (I cant even imagine how bad they must have been). How do I put it? I'm pretty sure when I measured the signal to noise ratio I ended getting a lower number AFTER A weighting it. Yes, not only was it's -66 db hiss (best possible reading below peak) much to loud for any preamp or mixer, but the noise floor resonated at 2.5 hz. Right in the middle of the hearing range.
Well, what do I know? I didn't have much money in the early 90's so I used two Mackie 1604:s and the Mackie MixerMixer. Soon I needed more channels and added a Behringer MX2642A to the MixerMixer forming a 48 channel mixer. 8 channels on the 2642 summed first the Adat and later the DAW. I have made several records with that setup. Pre Xenyx sounds really horrible... or virtually indistinguishable from the Mackie's. What you put in is what you get out. Because it sounds good I still haven't replaced that weird combo. Btw I have a Xenyx 802 as volume control for the monitors. That one replaced a pre xenyx 802 who did the Behringer lemon thing and died after ten years. Power failiure. Neither of the 802:s are noisy. I would have thrown them out immediately if they were.
@@anderswikholm957 well they're fine as a monitoring tool for a tracking studio or maybe even a DJ set but it's a just a dreadful thing to record from or have anywhere not at the end of a chain. Any compression will bring that godawful 2.5 khz noise out.
@@samnicholson5051 I have recorded albums with that setup, and lots of compression. If there were any godawful noise I would have thrown the mixers out immediately.
this video was made with extra caffeine
IV drip espresso style!
maybe make a 100 euro challenge with only analogue gear, would like to see what cheap stuff you could find!
Great suggestion but 100 € might be a bit too limiting. A Korg Monotron and a tapedeck?
@@AudioPilz well you could up the price to 200, but more than 400 i think would be too much, OR you could change it to include SOME digital stuff like a workstation but you'd still have to record and do everything outside of the daw (like the olden' days)
Maybe even solder your own synth together! with cheap electronic parts!
Heh, your videos are awesome:) I like the way you tell the story and topics that you touch:) almost all my home setup is built around them and its done its job:) With soldering skills its possible to push these products far better but its another story:) And again extremly nice videos:)
THX!!!
Nice job, Florian!
Thank you so much, man!