I've done dog grooming professionally and have worked for a dog groomer. None of our clients would ever want to pay this amount. That being said...... Golden Doodles are one of the most intensive grooms a groomer will ever perform. They are almost always matted and often are not cooperative during the groom. Also, a scissor cut, although a beautiful look, is extremely labor intensive. Most pet owners are happy with just a clipper cut and those can take hours on a Doodle. I can understand why the defendant was shocked at the bill, but the salon definitely put an extraordinary amount of work grooming her dogs. It's shady that the defendant didn't even pay anything.
i think a more fair verdict would have been to order the defendant to pay the average rate for the service since the plaintiffs did not make it clear what the cost would be and they allowed the defendant to assume that they would charge her around 130 per dog .
It's shady that the groomer's pamphlet is an older one. I bet you they keep it like this to bamboozle clients. The prices for services are different in their pamphlet than what they verbally or through texts state. Change the discrepancy, make an updated brochure.
@@kellismith4329 most likely the reason she did not pay was that the plaintiffs were not gonna accept a payment that was lower than what they were asking once the job was finished . we would all be rich if we could get away with not telling people what we were gonna charge them and then hit them with a huge bill even though we knew the customer thought the price would be much lower . i think there should have been a lesson in good business that the judge could have taught the plaintiffs but now they will continue over charging unsuspecting people who they know think the charge will be lower , to me the plaintiffs are shady .
I used to groom cats and Golden Doodles sound alot like Persian cats. Most people dont know how much maintenance these particular kinds of pets are before investing. Theyre very beautiful when groomed consistently, but as soon as the owner does not keep up with the fur management, Persians get matted quick. It took me nearly 4 hours to groom one of these cats because it was elderly (so very brush sensitive), and the owners did not want it to have the hair cut. Needless to say, we charged alot more, but the owners were more than happy to pay because they knew it was necessary.
She whipped out her credit card and was ready to pay, they took cash only. She went home with her dogs and simply changed her mind about how much the bill was.
I’ve worked w grooming services and ain’t no way we charged 509 plus for two dogs , honestly that is grossly over priced and I do believe they mis told the customer. At most the price for two dogs w matting would be 350
I bet she filed a few suits over her dog birthday party “the pictures aren’t good, the food was bad”. Seems many plan extravagant parties and then sue to recoup.
The defendant stood a better chance if she paid the $260 that she believed she owed instead of just paying nothing. Actual work was done and she even complimented and was very happy with the work. How did she think it was normal to not pay anything?...
The defendant should be ashamed of herself. She’s lying trying to act like she was in the dark about the price range… and sweetie absolutely noone told you there was $130 max for your “type of dog.” That doesn’t even make sense!
Right! And was acting like she didn't know Cooper...I dont know Cooper, who is Cooper?...then proceeds to say oh but Cooper is a way bigger dog! But I thought you didn't know Cooper.
Groomer of 10 years here: And we always have clients pay at pickup BECAUSE additional charges may be needed depending on coat condition and dog behavior. OMG these cases get me fired up lol
Groomer here as well. At first I thought the bill was high, but when I realized they were scissor cut, I understood the price. Scissoring is very labor intensive. This groomer did a beautiful job. The defendant wanted her dogs to look beautiful for the party and they did. It bothers me that she didn't at least pay what she claimed she was quoted.
So if you get started and realize it will cost more, do you contact the customer immediately? I don’t have a dog and I would NEVER spend this much on a grooming tbh but I’m very curious on the process. It seemed so sketchy in this case. I hate to compare it to car work (because dogs are so much more than an object and shouldn’t be compared at all) but if I go to get my car worked on, I need paperwork for whatever you are quoting me on before you touch my car. You mentioned additional charges and I would need that in writing as well. On toilet paper or written in crayon just as long as I get it on video lol 😂
@@TheCreoleSon89 I was thinking the same thing. Because the mechanic will give you quote but sometimes they get in there and realize x, y, and z also needs fixing. So they usually will call you and ask you if you want the additional work done and how much extra it will cost, even though they are some scam artist. That’s a topic for another day. 😂
What gets me about defendants like her is they never pay ANYTHING. Write a check, send it off for what you thought it was and handle the rest in court. They might not even bother to sue if you did that. Who knows but you clearly weren’t going to pay, because you didn’t pay at all.
@@trekgirl65and then they can sue over a canceled check fee too. Because it would still be NOT PAYING. What’s your point? What’s that have to do with my point at all? You’re just being a tedious contrarian. “Um acTsuAlLy if they give cash they could still rob the building so like you’re wrong 🤪” kick rocks
If it was open to take the credit card and she refused to. They might’ve had a call the cops that night, but she was lucky that they let it go for a few days. Was high price but hey like JM said spend your money like you want to …
I worked for a dog groomer that would charge no more than 100 for Doodles. I told her many times that she was undercharging. Each one would take hours. Sometimes up to 6 or 8 because the Doodles are very uncooperative and they'd need breaks during the groom to calm down. Most are biters too.
@@r1verman DOODLES FOR under a $100??. Those dogs are super intenstive to work on. I am not a groomer in any way just your average person but come on. No offense but you should be compensated way more. damnnnn
She had to go with the new groomers because she was having a party for a dog, and knew that the old groomers didn't do a fancy grooming job, yet then doesn't pay, what a dreadful person, because even if she wasn't expecting a bill for $587, she should have at least paid them the $260 she thought she owed...
I have a standard poodle with medium hair like these doodles. The groomer’s prices are fair for a professional cut, hand scissoring. If you’re charged significantly less than that, your groomer is probably clipping the dog with a razor. Which is totally fine, if you’re okay with that look. 90% of poodles and doodles are probably done with a razor, and clipped short to remove the mats. Combing out those mats takes forever. Drying a poodle or doodle takes at least an hour, especially if you’re trying to get the hair bone straight. The benefit of getting the hair super straight is that it will look so much nicer, and the cut will last longer. My standard poodle costs a bit under $250. He normally takes from 9 AM to 2 PM. If you have your poodle or doodle groomed by a high level poodle professional who does scissoring, you can tell the difference than getting your dog groomed by someone who doesn’t specialize in poodles.
The defendants attitude towards the plaintiffs is just disgusting. Why didn’t you pay anything? She basically lied in court. If you love the work, just pay them for the labor / job you asked for them to do!
yes she should pay , but she should not have to pay that high of a service charge since the plaintiffs did not make it clear what the total cost for all the services would be and they just let the defendant assume she was gonna pay around 130 per dog . judge should have done rough justice and ordered the defendant to pay what the average charge would be for those services instead of the overpriced charges the plaintiffs were demanding .
Seriously. Most golden doodles come out of the groomers shaved because they’re so matted. The fact that she was able to do a great job (for his party) and she’s so uneducated about dog prices. Small dogs are $100+ so yes I can see how he was $200+
Huh? I have a Large goldendoodle & a standard poodle.. It's only 65 dollars pure dog, and that's the package 1 up from a basic groom that includes extras... Granted both of my dogs are very well-behaved & brushed regularly so they're never matted.. If the dogs where extremely matted I can understand how it would cost that much pur dog. Most groomers have to shave matted dogs and so many ppl get Poodles or doodle mutts and don't spend the time to research how to properly brush them and then do it regularly. It's ridiculous! But the grooming Salon should have a form they have to sign then it should say if the dogs are matted it's $15 pure 15 minutes of dematting extra. I've never had a groomer not have my initial that even tho my dogs aren't ever matted so I never have to pay it. But I've never spent more than 100 on each dog..
@Haleighmaineee This is failure on your part... U have to brush them DAILY. And if u can't do that, u simply should shave them short to prevent matting or/and not have gotten a HIGH MAINTENANCE dog... I have a goldendoodle mutt & a standard poodle. Never once are my dogs matted, they get regular grooms every 6 weeks each as well as daily brushing.. This is on you neglecting that, it's preventable... They need regular brushing as well as gone through with a comb to get their underfur.... Matting is extremely painful for them, it can cause skin rashes, infections, it can even cut off the circulation of body parts such as the tail. IF you can't brush them regularly, u shouldn't have chosen high maintenance dogs.. Hell, I have Physical and medical disabilities & I still make sure my dogs aren't matted and get brushed regularly... If u can't do the bare minimum u should be keeping their fur short & still bringing them to a groomer just for brushing twice a week if your unwilling to brush them. Also I've never spent more than 100 pure dog, but again, I never have to pay dematting fees bc they're never matted & also highly trained to behave at the groomers. This comment shows your Negligence bc matted dogs is PREVENTABLE.
Ya'll, Golden Doodles are a nightmare with their coat. Dematting is almost a guarantee with these dogs. I don't doubt it cost that. People don't always take care of these dogs very well. There is an amazing YT channel called Girl with the Dogs. Learn a lot about dog grooming.
Plus lots of groomers wont even touch them. They are ALWAYS bad mannered and matted bc the people who adopt them dont take care of them properly. Designer dogs - always lead to problem owners
If the defendant didn't like the price, when did she say, hey you're over charging me...What was she going to do whip out her credit card, but only pay $135 for each dog? How would she have managed that? Why didn't she pay anything?
Our past dog was a former show dog and had to be hand stripped to maintain her coat, no clippers or scissors at all! Although we miss her dearly, we now have two rescues we are not that high maintenance and they are just as cute to us! The value lies in what a person is willing to pay to have their dog look a certain way. The dog doesn't care, the people do.
Dog groomer here. I can say most of the time when a doddle comes the de matting process is long. 100 dollar job would have been a shave down. I usually charge about 120 per doddle. If there are mats and knots there is a upcharge. That's why the groomer was keeping communication through text. Smaller doodles around 75. And the teeth brushing is what it is. We can do the teeth brushing. But that's something that needs to be done at home. It's like us. We brush our teeth daily. I am gonna take a wild guess and say these dogs took about 8 hours. We recommend monthly appointments for doodles to keep the coat in good condition. Please research the breed before you buy doodles. They are alot for upkeep about the same as a standard poodle but the fur is Wavy which can't unfortunately knot and mat easily. And if you bring them every 4 weeks it's easier in the dog and the groomer. That groomer could have easily said that the dog was too matted and needed a shave down.
Plaintiff: "They trust us with their dog, we trust them to pay us." How nice of you. However, that statement speaks ONLY of YOUR character, not theirs. That kind of payment policy is exactly why you are in court chasing this UN-trustworthy defendant!
It's a terrible way to do business. It's not about trust, it's about professionalism. All this 'we turn off the payment system' unless the manager is there, is BS and they should have a manual system to use after the manager leaves if that is the case.
I'm fired up, and I'm not even a groomer!!! Dog owners should educate themselves about the health, life expectancy, maintenance, and grooming. The owner is ridiculous.
I had a Japanese Chin named Tokyo- we didn't have kids, and I absolutely doted on that dog. Nightly brushing, weekly baths, every 3 months a grooming visit. My bill was always around $125- for a 13lb dog! Now I have a huge mixed breed man weighing in at 90-100lbs, and he also gets groomed every 3 months. His bill is never under $175, including dematting his huge butt. This lady is NUTS.
If you don’t wanna pay so much to have your dogs groomed so nicely brush them out every now and then. It can actually be painful for some dogs to be dematted so keep that in mind too.
Everyone wants these fancy high maintenance dogs but nobody wants to put the work in to keep them fancy but want to complain about the cost a groomer charges to spend hours fixing the months of neglect the owner did 🤦 it's like taking your middle aged husband to a barber and expect him to walk out looking like Brad Pitt for Supercuts prices 🤣
I'm a licensed CVT (vet tech). Brushing a dog's teeth ONCE every few months is a waste of money. Dogs have mineral-rich saliva. It accumulates, bit by bit, every time a dog produces saliva. If it's not brushed frequently enough, it will harden like CEMENT. Brushing your dog's teeth, consistently, at least 3 TIMES a WEEK will save you thousands in dental cleaning fees later on. Start brushing when they're pups!
I'm reading comments about how people get their dogs groomed for less than $100. Obviously not taking into account these were goldendoodles and were not shaved but scissor cut. I believe she was told the price upfront and just had second thoughts about the pricetag.
Dogs with long coats definitely cost more to get groomed. A groomer can not tell you by looking at the dog how long it will take to get the matted hair brushed out. That's crap is time consuming. Every bit of evidence on the plaintiffs side backs up their story. They never quoted anything below 200 per dog. The defendant is lying about 130 per dog. Nothing she had verified that. On top of that she didn't complain when she went to pay but the system. Was down. There more she thought about it she just didn't want to pay it. But she can waste money by throwing a dog a bday part??? Crazy
How come the more paperwork and folders the defendants come into court with, the worse they do in court and they never use anything in those folders.. Plus, if you knew you owed money and then paid nothing.. it speaks volumes about your character.
I can see why she switches groomers like that. She leaving a tab behind along with her dogs hair. She look like the type to throw a dog a party but don't pay her bills or keep the dog groomed on a normal basis. She knew she couldn't afford it from the start. But the plaintiff's need to get their business together nobody leave without paying or you don't get your dog. Put it in writing. Then charge them for boarding for every night they have to keep the dog until they pay 🤷♀️
I think she wasn't told the actual price up front. When I take my 2 small dogs to get groomed, my white fluffy dog always is more money for dematting. But my groomer doesn't give me a specific price until I am ready to pay. They can not calculate how long or how much time they will take doing the grooming. Although $130 per dog is ridiculously low for the work she wanted.
Really? I think it depends on where you live. My 82 lb dog costs me $45 for grooming. I give them $65. Mine is NOT long haired, but sheds like a beast.
I don’t think she was told either in the hallway the lady is just adding extra type of service that she didn’t even mention in court. Secondly why not have updated brochures about the prices and you’ve been in business over a year? And why have the business setup to where only management can take credit cards? I would write a review about the great work but also include everything else
I can't stand people like the "Blue hair" defendant. She makes me sick by not paying for all their hard work. She's also a liar and it's obvious. Scissor cuts are not only very hard to do they also take a long time. I couldn't even imagine doing that on a dog. I've done it on a lot of men's haircuts ...you use the scissors rather than the clippers for the back and/or sides. And yes...they pay a higher price for it!
I pay 80 dollars for a groomer that comes to my house every 6 weeks. She’s about 15 pound! But other then that I would never let my dog get matted. She stays on a schedule.
The groomer charging $100 shaves the dog down while this salon washes, demats, and styled the dogs. Huge difference! This is the equivalent of going to a salon and getting your head shaved versus getting a full day salon treatment with all the upgrades. If you can’t afford it, shave the dogs
That's totally the defendant's brother sitting behind her left shoulder in the audience. Possibly her mom next to him too. She brought her entire posse to court 😂
I understand if she was only once at groomer and he didn't broke down there is part of the money for dematting, and their pamflet doesn't say "yeah you could pay extra for some breeds". I understand she was surprised with the price and didn't expected it. Her playing deadbug is another story.
Bullshit! That the groomer told the client "120 is the most we ever charge for Doodles" No no no. $120 is almost ALWAYS the bare minimum for doodles depending on where you live in the US
As the owner of a Goldendoodle grooming is not cheap and it takes DAILY brushing to ensure that they don’t get matted. Most people who get these dog just want a “cute” dog and don’t realize how much work it takes outside of just getting them groomed. Dematting can be hard and painful on your dog please take better care of them if you decide to get one!
That was a top class groom. I would bet defendant's usual 125. Groom only involved all over clipping, bath, after bath kennel blow dry and finish scissoring of head, and possibly a nail trim. This dog was completely hand groomed/ scissored and left with a longer fluff dried, dematted coat. She knew what she got. Scammer!
As a women, when we go to the hair salon, we pay for every different service for a hairstyle which may add up to 1k depending on what’s done. She was trying to get over simply because she got away with not paying during pickup. Shame on her. The salon needs to do better with their protocol of payment and/or invoicing.
You cant really get a price before your dog is groomed. If your dog is severly matted, vicious, uncooperative, etc etc, you will be charged more. Also, always tip your groomers!!! Dealing with dogs n cats is a lot harder than doing a humans haircut and you always tip your stylist...
I used to have a min pin. I used to pay $13 for her to washed and nails clipped. Which I normally I could wash her myself but she never let me clip those nails
I teach clients the slow approach, put dog on a leash, present the clippers with food as a positive then make the clipper "sound" ...don't clip but give it a piece of food. That's day one, you don't clip at all until day two. This makes the clipper a 100% reward (sight of it and the sound of it). On day two same approach, food reward then "touch" the nail with the clipper while giving it food. Eventually you clip. Cesar Milan's show since 2005 taught me this. We condition the dogs brain clipper=positive reward. 😀🐕🦺
What foolishness, I've had only pure bred German shepherds for 22 years, , no grooming for these intelligent, protective animals, except for the brushing which I do. Marina doesn't need to make those scary faces, I'd hate to see her angry.
Scissoring is more expensive and it’s beautiful. I wouldn’t pay for the teeth washing bc it was stated as included but outside of that she should have paid and tipped well. They could have shaved the dog and she would have been on fb crying.
Golden Doodles have so much curl to comb out and cut and care for when groomed. And it took time. She did not like the extra she had to pay for two of them, that is why she was refusing to pay.
LIFE UNFORTUNATELY has showed me AT THE TIME PEOPLE R SO GRATEFUL, BUT IF THEY OWE £ THEY'LL COME UP WITH ANYTHINGGGG LATER NOT 2 PAY!!! ITS SAD & WILL MAKE OUR WORLD COMPLETELY JADED 😔
I just took my 70lb Standard Poodle for grooming, ear plucking and claw grinding. It costs $100 USD; on Tuesdays, there is a 10% senior discount. For all the extras the plaintiff wanted, $250 doesn't seem unreasonable.
Should have had him socialised more with strangers. Our new puppy has just finished puppy school which was done at a Veterinary Clinic. Each lesson they would take one or 2 dogs into the clinic without their owners to meet the nurses and vets and to teach them not to be afraid of the vet, our puppy got taken in twice.
The first mistake people make when meeting a new dog is give it eye contact. With dogs it's "nose, eyes, ears". Nose is their primary sense. Their born blind and deaf for 2-3 weeks. Dog owners, groomers, vets, rescues, fosters, etc should tell someone who wants to meet the dog to not look at it for a minute. Stand still, relax and let the dog come up to you and "gain your scent". Once they sniff you and see you're a calm energy they relax then it's okay to look at it. Basic Cesar Milan stuff since 2005.
I’ve heard several times before that Golden Doodles can sometimes take a little more work because of the different hair textures bred. I have a standard poodle and before I really learned how to care for his hair, I used to get extra charges.
Work at a vet clinic with cats. When the fur is badly matted it is very difficult to remove, even with just shaving it off. We only do medically necessary grooming (to take care of mats or wounds) and for a badly matted 10-15 pound cat that requires half or more of its fur shaved we charge $120. And we are not professional groomers. There’s no way in hell she’s getting those big dogs dematted, bathed and hand cut for $130 each. Also teeth brushing at the groomers doesn’t do anything if the owners don’t do regular teeth brushing (2-3 times a week) at home as well. It is absolutely pointless and won’t get the dogs’ teeth clean if it’s a once in a while treatment.
The pathetic part is this defendant has been on the show before and even then she was a scammer trying to get everything for free and a nasty attitude and entitlement
"Will you go back?"
"Definitely not."
"I'm sure, Can't afford it"😂😂😂
Doug 😂😅
I need this guy on a T-shirt or something. He's so savage
😅😅
Steppin in with the burns
He do be telling them off on the slide side😂
I've done dog grooming professionally and have worked for a dog groomer. None of our clients would ever want to pay this amount. That being said...... Golden Doodles are one of the most intensive grooms a groomer will ever perform. They are almost always matted and often are not cooperative during the groom. Also, a scissor cut, although a beautiful look, is extremely labor intensive. Most pet owners are happy with just a clipper cut and those can take hours on a Doodle. I can understand why the defendant was shocked at the bill, but the salon definitely put an extraordinary amount of work grooming her dogs. It's shady that the defendant didn't even pay anything.
i think a more fair verdict would have been to order the defendant to pay the average rate for the service since the plaintiffs did not make it clear what the cost would be and they allowed the defendant to assume that they would charge her around 130 per dog .
If she was concerned she was overcharged, why didn’t she pay the amount she claims to have agreed to?
It's shady that the groomer's pamphlet is an older one. I bet you they keep it like this to bamboozle clients. The prices for services are different in their pamphlet than what they verbally or through texts state. Change the discrepancy, make an updated brochure.
@@kellismith4329 most likely the reason she did not pay was that the plaintiffs were not gonna accept a payment that was lower than what they were asking once the job was finished . we would all be rich if we could get away with not telling people what we were gonna charge them and then hit them with a huge bill even though we knew the customer thought the price would be much lower . i think there should have been a lesson in good business that the judge could have taught the plaintiffs but now they will continue over charging unsuspecting people who they know think the charge will be lower , to me the plaintiffs are shady .
I used to groom cats and Golden Doodles sound alot like Persian cats. Most people dont know how much maintenance these particular kinds of pets are before investing. Theyre very beautiful when groomed consistently, but as soon as the owner does not keep up with the fur management, Persians get matted quick. It took me nearly 4 hours to groom one of these cats because it was elderly (so very brush sensitive), and the owners did not want it to have the hair cut. Needless to say, we charged alot more, but the owners were more than happy to pay because they knew it was necessary.
She’s having an unnecessary party for her dog but won’t pay for services. Unbelievable!
Deadbeats.
She whipped out her credit card and was ready to pay, they took cash only. She went home with her dogs and simply changed her mind about how much the bill was.
ill bet the party cost well over the price for the groom. Priorities!
I’ve worked w grooming services and ain’t no way we charged 509 plus for two dogs , honestly that is grossly over priced and I do believe they mis told the customer.
At most the price for two dogs w matting would be 350
That's what you get for ordering Champagne and Caviar when you have a Bologna and Cheese budget!!!
I bet she filed a few suits over her dog birthday party “the pictures aren’t good, the food was bad”.
Seems many plan extravagant parties and then sue to recoup.
@@elvickRULES 😂🤣🤣🤣😂 I bet your right lol.
Furthermore, maybe if they would stop crossbreeding designer dog's, it wouldn't cost 400 Dollars to groom them lol..
I pay $100 for my 10 pound chihuahua that’s why I only do it every quarter. I could totally see this being $250 per dog.
That's nuts. I have a 10lb pomchi. I bathe her in the kitchen sink.
You can't bathe a 10 lb short haired dog by yourself?!?!? 😂😂😂😂
Having a dog that needs such labor intensive grooming is going to be expensive. Especially when the owner does nothing at home. PAY THE MAN
The defendant stood a better chance if she paid the $260 that she believed she owed instead of just paying nothing. Actual work was done and she even complimented and was very happy with the work. How did she think it was normal to not pay anything?...
The defendant should be ashamed of herself. She’s lying trying to act like she was in the dark about the price range… and sweetie absolutely noone told you there was $130 max for your “type of dog.” That doesn’t even make sense!
Same. Agreed. I am a dog groomer. That's a starting price
Right! And was acting like she didn't know Cooper...I dont know Cooper, who is Cooper?...then proceeds to say oh but Cooper is a way bigger dog! But I thought you didn't know Cooper.
I love when defendants come in with folders full of paperwork that never help their case!
Damn 😂
It's insane when people say they're overcharged so they decide to just not pay 🤦🏼♀️
Exactly. She still could have paid what she claimed she was originally quoted.
Uhhhh, no, it's not insane at all. If someone is trying to rip me off why am I going to give them money?
She should be ashamed of herself! 👩🏿⚖️
The defendant, yes.
Groomer of 10 years here: And we always have clients pay at pickup BECAUSE additional charges may be needed depending on coat condition and dog behavior. OMG these cases get me fired up lol
Groomer here as well. At first I thought the bill was high, but when I realized they were scissor cut, I understood the price. Scissoring is very labor intensive. This groomer did a beautiful job. The defendant wanted her dogs to look beautiful for the party and they did. It bothers me that she didn't at least pay what she claimed she was quoted.
So if you get started and realize it will cost more, do you contact the customer immediately? I don’t have a dog and I would NEVER spend this much on a grooming tbh but I’m very curious on the process. It seemed so sketchy in this case.
I hate to compare it to car work (because dogs are so much more than an object and shouldn’t be compared at all) but if I go to get my car worked on, I need paperwork for whatever you are quoting me on before you touch my car. You mentioned additional charges and I would need that in writing as well. On toilet paper or written in crayon just as long as I get it on video lol 😂
@@TheCreoleSon89 I was thinking the same thing. Because the mechanic will give you quote but sometimes they get in there and realize x, y, and z also needs fixing. So they usually will call you and ask you if you want the additional work done and how much extra it will cost, even though they are some scam artist. That’s a topic for another day. 😂
What gets me about defendants like her is they never pay ANYTHING. Write a check, send it off for what you thought it was and handle the rest in court. They might not even bother to sue if you did that. Who knows but you clearly weren’t going to pay, because you didn’t pay at all.
i would just like to know why 4 people came to court for the defendant,lol
@@Palmstreet-u7xTo be seen on TV.
Not, because the check can be canceled by a phone call.
@@trekgirl65and then they can sue over a canceled check fee too. Because it would still be NOT PAYING. What’s your point?
What’s that have to do with my point at all? You’re just being a tedious contrarian. “Um acTsuAlLy if they give cash they could still rob the building so like you’re wrong 🤪” kick rocks
If it was open to take the credit card and she refused to. They might’ve had a call the cops that night, but she was lucky that they let it go for a few days. Was high price but hey like JM said spend your money like you want to …
The defendant can’t be taken seriously as NO WAY can $130 each, including de-matting😵💫 on those dogs.
I worked for a dog groomer that would charge no more than 100 for Doodles. I told her many times that she was undercharging. Each one would take hours. Sometimes up to 6 or 8 because the Doodles are very uncooperative and they'd need breaks during the groom to calm down. Most are biters too.
@@r1verman DOODLES FOR under a $100??. Those dogs are super intenstive to work on. I am not a groomer in any way just your average person but come on. No offense but you should be compensated way more. damnnnn
She had to go with the new groomers because she was having a party for a dog, and knew that the old groomers didn't do a fancy grooming job, yet then doesn't pay, what a dreadful person, because even if she wasn't expecting a bill for $587, she should have at least paid them the $260 she thought she owed...
I have a standard poodle with medium hair like these doodles. The groomer’s prices are fair for a professional cut, hand scissoring. If you’re charged significantly less than that, your groomer is probably clipping the dog with a razor. Which is totally fine, if you’re okay with that look. 90% of poodles and doodles are probably done with a razor, and clipped short to remove the mats. Combing out those mats takes forever. Drying a poodle or doodle takes at least an hour, especially if you’re trying to get the hair bone straight. The benefit of getting the hair super straight is that it will look so much nicer, and the cut will last longer. My standard poodle costs a bit under $250. He normally takes from 9 AM to 2 PM. If you have your poodle or doodle groomed by a high level poodle professional who does scissoring, you can tell the difference than getting your dog groomed by someone who doesn’t specialize in poodles.
What does she need that big ass binder for??
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The defendants attitude towards the plaintiffs is just disgusting. Why didn’t you pay anything? She basically lied in court. If you love the work, just pay them for the labor / job you asked for them to do!
yes she should pay , but she should not have to pay that high of a service charge since the plaintiffs did not make it clear what the total cost for all the services would be and they just let the defendant assume she was gonna pay around 130 per dog . judge should have done rough justice and ordered the defendant to pay what the average charge would be for those services instead of the overpriced charges the plaintiffs were demanding .
Seriously. Most golden doodles come out of the groomers shaved because they’re so matted. The fact that she was able to do a great job (for his party) and she’s so uneducated about dog prices. Small dogs are $100+ so yes I can see how he was $200+
I have 2 golden doodles. I agree with this. They get very matted.
Huh? I have a Large goldendoodle & a standard poodle.. It's only 65 dollars pure dog, and that's the package 1 up from a basic groom that includes extras... Granted both of my dogs are very well-behaved & brushed regularly so they're never matted.. If the dogs where extremely matted I can understand how it would cost that much pur dog. Most groomers have to shave matted dogs and so many ppl get Poodles or doodle mutts and don't spend the time to research how to properly brush them and then do it regularly. It's ridiculous! But the grooming Salon should have a form they have to sign then it should say if the dogs are matted it's $15 pure 15 minutes of dematting extra. I've never had a groomer not have my initial that even tho my dogs aren't ever matted so I never have to pay it. But I've never spent more than 100 on each dog..
@Haleighmaineee This is failure on your part... U have to brush them DAILY. And if u can't do that, u simply should shave them short to prevent matting or/and not have gotten a HIGH MAINTENANCE dog... I have a goldendoodle mutt & a standard poodle. Never once are my dogs matted, they get regular grooms every 6 weeks each as well as daily brushing.. This is on you neglecting that, it's preventable... They need regular brushing as well as gone through with a comb to get their underfur.... Matting is extremely painful for them, it can cause skin rashes, infections, it can even cut off the circulation of body parts such as the tail. IF you can't brush them regularly, u shouldn't have chosen high maintenance dogs.. Hell, I have Physical and medical disabilities & I still make sure my dogs aren't matted and get brushed regularly... If u can't do the bare minimum u should be keeping their fur short & still bringing them to a groomer just for brushing twice a week if your unwilling to brush them. Also I've never spent more than 100 pure dog, but again, I never have to pay dematting fees bc they're never matted & also highly trained to behave at the groomers. This comment shows your Negligence bc matted dogs is PREVENTABLE.
Doug was way way way too easy on the defendant. WTF ?!
Ya'll, Golden Doodles are a nightmare with their coat. Dematting is almost a guarantee with these dogs. I don't doubt it cost that. People don't always take care of these dogs very well. There is an amazing YT channel called Girl with the Dogs. Learn a lot about dog grooming.
The Girl With The Dogs is AWESOME!
@@barbarat5729 she's amazing 💕
They really are!
Plus lots of groomers wont even touch them. They are ALWAYS bad mannered and matted bc the people who adopt them dont take care of them properly.
Designer dogs - always lead to problem owners
I used to have two Golden doodles and sometimes they get hair matted. Need to have a keep up every 6-8 weeks for grooming.
I never left my dog at a groomer's without knowing the price.
I love Marina's smile!
she is annoying
If the defendant didn't like the price, when did she say, hey you're over charging me...What was she going to do whip out her credit card, but only pay $135 for each dog? How would she have managed that? Why didn't she pay anything?
"cant afford it" is right Doug 😂
Our past dog was a former show dog and had to be hand stripped to maintain her coat, no clippers or scissors at all! Although we miss her dearly, we now have two rescues we are not that high maintenance and they are just as cute to us! The value lies in what a person is willing to pay to have their dog look a certain way. The dog doesn't care, the people do.
I hate when people do these things...pay what you say you will
Dog groomer here. I can say most of the time when a doddle comes the de matting process is long. 100 dollar job would have been a shave down. I usually charge about 120 per doddle. If there are mats and knots there is a upcharge. That's why the groomer was keeping communication through text. Smaller doodles around 75. And the teeth brushing is what it is. We can do the teeth brushing. But that's something that needs to be done at home. It's like us. We brush our teeth daily. I am gonna take a wild guess and say these dogs took about 8 hours. We recommend monthly appointments for doodles to keep the coat in good condition. Please research the breed before you buy doodles. They are alot for upkeep about the same as a standard poodle but the fur is Wavy which can't unfortunately knot and mat easily. And if you bring them every 4 weeks it's easier in the dog and the groomer. That groomer could have easily said that the dog was too matted and needed a shave down.
What's a doddle?
Clown can’t even walk through a door without tripping up on his own feet.
Doug is so sassy! 14:19 😂😂
The problem is that she paid these people NOTHING! Thats crazy.
Plaintiff: "They trust us with their dog, we trust them to pay us."
How nice of you. However, that statement speaks ONLY of YOUR character, not theirs.
That kind of payment policy is exactly why you are in court chasing this UN-trustworthy defendant!
It's a terrible way to do business. It's not about trust, it's about professionalism. All this 'we turn off the payment system' unless the manager is there, is BS and they should have a manual system to use after the manager leaves if that is the case.
The judge caught that weirdo in her tracks
When you try and live above your means…shame on her!
I'm fired up, and I'm not even a groomer!!! Dog owners should educate themselves about the health, life expectancy, maintenance, and grooming. The owner is ridiculous.
Doug shady AF....... will you go back
Defendant - absolutely not
Doug- you can't afford it 😆
I had a Japanese Chin named Tokyo- we didn't have kids, and I absolutely doted on that dog. Nightly brushing, weekly baths, every 3 months a grooming visit. My bill was always around $125- for a 13lb dog!
Now I have a huge mixed breed man weighing in at 90-100lbs, and he also gets groomed every 3 months. His bill is never under $175, including dematting his huge butt. This lady is NUTS.
Sorry but "huge butt" is cracking me up! 😂😂 Sounds adorable
If you don’t wanna pay so much to have your dogs groomed so nicely brush them out every now and then. It can actually be painful for some dogs to be dematted so keep that in mind too.
Everyone wants these fancy high maintenance dogs but nobody wants to put the work in to keep them fancy but want to complain about the cost a groomer charges to spend hours fixing the months of neglect the owner did 🤦 it's like taking your middle aged husband to a barber and expect him to walk out looking like Brad Pitt for Supercuts prices 🤣
I'm a licensed CVT (vet tech). Brushing a dog's teeth ONCE every few months is a waste of money.
Dogs have mineral-rich saliva. It accumulates, bit by bit, every time a dog produces saliva. If it's not brushed frequently enough, it will harden like CEMENT.
Brushing your dog's teeth, consistently, at least 3 TIMES a WEEK will save you thousands in dental cleaning fees later on.
Start brushing when they're pups!
I'm reading comments about how people get their dogs groomed for less than $100. Obviously not taking into account these were goldendoodles and were not shaved but scissor cut. I believe she was told the price upfront and just had second thoughts about the pricetag.
Dogs with long coats definitely cost more to get groomed. A groomer can not tell you by looking at the dog how long it will take to get the matted hair brushed out. That's crap is time consuming. Every bit of evidence on the plaintiffs side backs up their story. They never quoted anything below 200 per dog. The defendant is lying about 130 per dog. Nothing she had verified that. On top of that she didn't complain when she went to pay but the system. Was down. There more she thought about it she just didn't want to pay it. But she can waste money by throwing a dog a bday part??? Crazy
Exactly my thoughts as well.
How come the more paperwork and folders the defendants come into court with, the worse they do in court and they never use anything in those folders.. Plus, if you knew you owed money and then paid nothing.. it speaks volumes about your character.
Sounds like she can't afford to have these dogs
I can see why she switches groomers like that. She leaving a tab behind along with her dogs hair. She look like the type to throw a dog a party but don't pay her bills or keep the dog groomed on a normal basis. She knew she couldn't afford it from the start. But the plaintiff's need to get their business together nobody leave without paying or you don't get your dog. Put it in writing. Then charge them for boarding for every night they have to keep the dog until they pay 🤷♀️
Throwing a party for a Dog?
Just take puppy to Dairy Queen for ice cream... they'll love that.
She is having buyer remorse !!!
I think she wasn't told the actual price up front. When I take my 2 small dogs to get groomed, my white fluffy dog always is more money for dematting. But my groomer doesn't give me a specific price until I am ready to pay. They can not calculate how long or how much time they will take doing the grooming. Although $130 per dog is ridiculously low for the work she wanted.
Really? I think it depends on where you live. My 82 lb dog costs me $45 for grooming. I give them $65. Mine is NOT long haired, but sheds like a beast.
@luis , "you people " love those fru fru dogs. 🐩 🐩 🐶
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Seems like it’s paying for every tiny hair on the dogs back 😂
I don’t think she was told either in the hallway the lady is just adding extra type of service that she didn’t even mention in court. Secondly why not have updated brochures about the prices and you’ve been in business over a year? And why have the business setup to where only management can take credit cards? I would write a review about the great work but also include everything else
@@mikieanthony777 "we people" do love our fur babies. I also like non Furry ones too.
I can't stand people like the "Blue hair" defendant. She makes me sick by not paying for all their hard work. She's also a liar and it's obvious. Scissor cuts are not only very hard to do they also take a long time. I couldn't even imagine doing that on a dog. I've done it on a lot of men's haircuts ...you use the scissors rather than the clippers for the back and/or sides. And yes...they pay a higher price for it!
Wow, it costs a lot of money to clean a dog. I beat the system and got a rescue cat for 50 bucks and she is self-cleaning.
If I had one of those it would look like my head. BALD!🙄
She. Knew. Grifter liar thief defendant.
I pay 80 dollars for a groomer that comes to my house every 6 weeks. She’s about 15 pound! But other then that I would never let my dog get matted. She stays on a schedule.
Wow. And how was she spending on the birthday party?
Woman hand-clipped and did other stuff to a dog that would feed a family of four for a week.
They don’t need business like her anyway.
For the price she wanted to pay, the dogs would get a shave, not a de-matting.
Defendant knew what the total cost was. I think she was just tryna get away with low balling or just getting sum free job
The groomer charging $100 shaves the dog down while this salon washes, demats, and styled the dogs. Huge difference! This is the equivalent of going to a salon and getting your head shaved versus getting a full day salon treatment with all the upgrades. If you can’t afford it, shave the dogs
They do not even charge that to shear a sheep. lol
Sheep are shorn with huge electric sheers. It is all done in less than 5 minutes
They did a wonderful job! Shame on her for not buying them but had a party for Dogs!
That's totally the defendant's brother sitting behind her left shoulder in the audience. Possibly her mom next to him too. She brought her entire posse to court 😂
Irresponsible dog owner, at the very least. Why did she allow her dog's hair to get matted?
2:39 a cocoa doodle sounds like it might be a chocolate lab and poodle mix. L O L
Timothy is the " fluffer " 😂
I understand if she was only once at groomer and he didn't broke down there is part of the money for dematting, and their pamflet doesn't say "yeah you could pay extra for some breeds". I understand she was surprised with the price and didn't expected it. Her playing deadbug is another story.
Bullshit! That the groomer told the client "120 is the most we ever charge for Doodles" No no no. $120 is almost ALWAYS the bare minimum for doodles depending on where you live in the US
My god that groomer is gorgeous
As the owner of a Goldendoodle grooming is not cheap and it takes DAILY brushing to ensure that they don’t get matted. Most people who get these dog just want a “cute” dog and don’t realize how much work it takes outside of just getting them groomed. Dematting can be hard and painful on your dog please take better care of
them if you decide to get one!
How does Doug come up with these snide remarks??! 😂😂😂😂😂
plaintiff is DAPPER. I wish he was able to speak more here
all the groomers need to be in court that were there. they all heard and saw what he was doing including the owner and simply ignored him!
That was a top class groom. I would bet defendant's usual 125. Groom only involved all over clipping, bath, after bath kennel blow dry and finish scissoring of head, and possibly a nail trim. This dog was completely hand groomed/ scissored and left with a longer fluff dried, dematted coat. She knew what she got. Scammer!
I thought Doug was going to pick that lady up and spin her over his head.
They did do a good job but damn those prices woo
Seems like it was worth every penny
Most groomers in my City won’t take these big doodles because it’s time consuming
If the defendant ever comes into unlimited income I bet you she’ll take her dogs back to that place
Surely there's something we can call it other than "scissoring" the dog 😂
As a women, when we go to the hair salon, we pay for every different service for a hairstyle which may add up to 1k depending on what’s done. She was trying to get over simply because she got away with not paying during pickup. Shame on her. The salon needs to do better with their protocol of payment and/or invoicing.
When the plantiff said NJ, I thought the business was in Hoboken, but Weehawken is close enough... cost of living is ridiculously high there too
If she had kept up on brushing her dog, she would’ve saved the matting fee
You cant really get a price before your dog is groomed. If your dog is severly matted, vicious, uncooperative, etc etc, you will be charged more. Also, always tip your groomers!!! Dealing with dogs n cats is a lot harder than doing a humans haircut and you always tip your stylist...
Defendant is despicable.
The price is not outrageous. I PAY 100 Plus tip and shes a yorki
This is why I have feral cats. You give them a little food and they're happy.
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My dog is $60.00 in full for wash, condition, teeth brush and blow dry. $300. Is outrageous!!! I believe the defendant was told $130 for each dog.
They have texts between the staff about the price, it doesn’t make sense for him to tell the client a different price
What kind of dog do you mean is $60
Is it a large dog with severely matted fur?
Why would they lie? They’re a premium salon.
Do you have a goldendoodle? Does your dog take all day to wash and groom?
Do a scissor cut on a medium to large dog. It's very labor intensive. A clipper cut would be 130 for this type of dog, plus extra for dematting.
Looks like it was worth every Penny
Throwing a birthday party for a dog has to be someone’s first mistake 🤦🏻♀️
First world problems. We need an asteroid to hit Earth, honestly.
I used to have a min pin. I used to pay $13 for her to washed and nails clipped.
Which I normally I could wash her myself but she never let me clip those nails
I teach clients the slow approach, put dog on a leash, present the clippers with food as a positive then make the clipper "sound" ...don't clip but give it a piece of food. That's day one, you don't clip at all until day two. This makes the clipper a 100% reward (sight of it and the sound of it). On day two same approach, food reward then "touch" the nail with the clipper while giving it food. Eventually you clip. Cesar Milan's show since 2005 taught me this. We condition the dogs brain clipper=positive reward. 😀🐕🦺
What foolishness, I've had only pure bred German shepherds for 22 years, , no grooming for these intelligent, protective animals, except for the brushing which I do. Marina doesn't need to make those scary faces, I'd hate to see her angry.
Scissoring is more expensive and it’s beautiful. I wouldn’t pay for the teeth washing bc it was stated as included but outside of that she should have paid and tipped well. They could have shaved the dog and she would have been on fb crying.
Golden Doodles have so much curl to comb out and cut and care for when groomed. And it took time. She did not like the extra she had to pay for two of them, that is why she was refusing to pay.
LIFE UNFORTUNATELY has showed me AT THE TIME PEOPLE R SO GRATEFUL, BUT IF THEY OWE £ THEY'LL COME UP WITH ANYTHINGGGG LATER NOT 2 PAY!!!
ITS SAD & WILL MAKE OUR WORLD COMPLETELY JADED 😔
😂😂😂why he grab her up like that lmao
I just took my 70lb Standard Poodle for grooming, ear plucking and claw grinding. It costs $100 USD; on Tuesdays, there is a 10% senior discount. For all the extras the plaintiff wanted, $250 doesn't seem unreasonable.
It’s hard to believe, and really bad business to have only one person who can open the cash register.
I learnt to groom my own dog cos he can't go to the groomers, he plays up lol. He don't let no one touch him 😅
I do mine also and sometimes it is funny looking but they are not letting any stranger near them. 😂
Should have had him socialised more with strangers. Our new puppy has just finished puppy school which was done at a Veterinary Clinic. Each lesson they would take one or 2 dogs into the clinic without their owners to meet the nurses and vets and to teach them not to be afraid of the vet, our puppy got taken in twice.
The first mistake people make when meeting a new dog is give it eye contact. With dogs it's "nose, eyes, ears". Nose is their primary sense. Their born blind and deaf for 2-3 weeks. Dog owners, groomers, vets, rescues, fosters, etc should tell someone who wants to meet the dog to not look at it for a minute. Stand still, relax and let the dog come up to you and "gain your scent". Once they sniff you and see you're a calm energy they relax then it's okay to look at it. Basic Cesar Milan stuff since 2005.
I’ve heard several times before that Golden Doodles can sometimes take a little more work because of the different hair textures bred. I have a standard poodle and before I really learned how to care for his hair, I used to get extra charges.
Work at a vet clinic with cats. When the fur is badly matted it is very difficult to remove, even with just shaving it off. We only do medically necessary grooming (to take care of mats or wounds) and for a badly matted 10-15 pound cat that requires half or more of its fur shaved we charge $120. And we are not professional groomers. There’s no way in hell she’s getting those big dogs dematted, bathed and hand cut for $130 each.
Also teeth brushing at the groomers doesn’t do anything if the owners don’t do regular teeth brushing (2-3 times a week) at home as well. It is absolutely pointless and won’t get the dogs’ teeth clean if it’s a once in a while treatment.
The pathetic part is this defendant has been on the show before and even then she was a scammer trying to get everything for free and a nasty attitude and entitlement