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This is what 25 years of JJ Abrams products have done to film making: all pretty pictures, mystery box nonsense and pew-pew.
I think you give that douche far too much credit.
Its also been sped up into high gear by woke activism and Hollywood's misstake in thinking woke is the majority audience nowadays, in reality its a small group thats prone to be extremely active online, and loudly so. Hence their mistake, but then again, half the world became scared to discuss things bluntly in public, wokeness is already a thing in dutch: "aanstelleritis", a fake/joke medical excuse friends use to call each other out when they are being whiney and sensitive about everything they can be.
This is what happens when you have great actors, great sets, and great effects, but poor writers.
Which seems to have become the norm for many years now. While tons of award winning science fiction novels and storys are waiting for decades already to be made into a film. Novels and stories, I guess, where the average Hollywood executive or producers is to stupid to understand them, and mostly would be spoiled by focusing on action and effects anyway... Sigh...
Basically an inferior version of Apocalypse Now wearing an Interstellar skin-suit.
Wow spot on. This is very much a Heart of Darkness tale (as is Apocalypse) . I actually didn't terribly mind this movie but when you put it that way it could've been so much better-- plotting deeper and deeper into the darkness of deep space while the crew slowly loses control of the situation.
Indeed. Could not help but think of Apocalypse Now when I saw this, in a bad way. Film still looks great and I do like many of the performances and even it's ultimate idea in the end of enjoying what you have instead of trying to seek profundity in the far beyond. But at the same time, could not help but find it often quite sloppy in it's storytelling. The Baboon and the attack from the other astronauts feels at odd with the style and unintentionally comical in execution.
@@sebbenforteThey pretty well hit all the same story beats. Even the main characters are near carbon copies of each other.
That's the best summary possible.
@donalgc I just don't see how it's inferior when they're very nearly the exact same movie aside from setting. I'm not claiming Ad Astra is amazing, it's interesting not amazing, but I am saying Appcalypse Now is so vastly overrated it makes my brain hurt.
Why are they keeping rabid baboons in a space station? What benefit does that provide when you can keep the baboons on earth?
Study the baboons on earth in a familiar environment with proper facilities and you’ll be safer!
Because drama or something
I feel like that segment, which has nothing to do with the rest of the film, was added because there was a striking lack of action in the film.
what a silly question, keeping rabid baboons on a space station is tight
My guess: They were experimenting with pathogens so dangerous that they couldn't risk infecting life on Earth. A space station is a very effective air-gap.
Yeah cause keeping infected animals in a lab on Earth has never caused any problems ever!😂
Are you serious? I watched this movie for the first time 4 days ago because someone recommended it to me. The ending makes no sense. You hijack a top-secret shuttle for a super-top-secret mission and all of the crew dies, and you return to Earth and... don't go to prison? I... don't understand the logic of this film.
no logic, it has no real character, plot or themes. This guy has written some real turds and directed them well. He seems very networked because his films always have great actors but the stories seem to fizzle out after act 1.
@@jkellyiddef well connected. Must party well in la
@@jkellyid Actually, this one fizzled out after the trailer.
The only way this film makes any sense is if it's actually a half-remembered dream
Smoke loads of weed…. Looks good but still doesn’t make sense….. where’s the acid….🤔….😉
For me the biggest problem with the film is the misleading marketing. The trailer made it seem more action packed and fast paced than it actually was.
Exactly this.
What I expected: surprise aliens unleashing a 'new' super energy to attack Earth
What I got: a nihilistic take on how alone in the universe we are. And everyone dies except the lead.
I had a similar objection with that Darren Aronofsky movie The Fountain. A good movie overall, and I would recommend it. However, the marketing made it seem like a very different movie. I won't go into details in case you haven't seen it but its basically similar to Ad Astra it's much more slower paced than the trailer made it seem and also the story is more disjointed, not necessarily in a bad way, but nevertheless I was disappointed to not get the story I was expecting.
Studios really need to not do this. The Fountain is a gorgeous film and I probably would have seen in theaters a second time had I not felt misled by the marketing.
@@Warriorx269 That's why I don't watch trailers. I loved how slow paced it was. A nice reprieve from the ADD Marvel junk.
It wasn't even thought provoking, it was ridiculous.
In the words of Douglas Quaid/Howser: "Get your ass to Mars.".
The film felt like it wanted to be epic but seemed pretentious to me at the time. It left me cold.
Very much a 'polished turd'. Well made, brilliantly shined but at it's core; a pile of crap.
@@thePsiMatrix I'm not saying I loved it, but it makes a lot more sense to see it as a retelling of Apocalypse Now than a bad mimicry of 2001.
It seemed to just... drift off into dreamland... until nothing means anything...
I was hoping for a really good scifi story, but it devolved into a really terrible family drama. The whole thing about the relationship between Brad Pitt and his father was total garbage. The film just got worse and worse as it went.
It was the last time I went to see a film on the big screen without reading the reviews first. Wish it didn’t have to be this way, but man what a piece of shit.
Feckin' moon pirates
We're pirates on the moon, we carry a harpooooooon 🏴☠️
@@Waterhouse1666 So with a yo-ho-ho, and a he-he-he, we take to the Sea of Tranquility, we'll brave those squalls and bust your balls, Moon Pirates we
@@SoupDragonification😂🤣😂
Yep, I left Ad Astra feeling.... nothing. I thought at first I might have felt disappointment, but the movie couldn't even illicit that from me.
I felt lethargic from my hours snooze
A massively underwhelming cinema visit in 2019. The space moon buggy pirates - Jesus..
That was one of the best scenes from the trailer though. I was legitimately excited mostly based on that. And then the movie/story/whatever just...ugh...complete and utter fail.
I went in hoping 2019 An Interstellar Odyssey, came out with the Blink 182 WTF Gif.
I found that scene one of the more believable. I could imagine that different factions trying to seize lunar territory and resources could engage in just that sort of conflict.
Moon pirates sounds like something from Rick & Morty. 😆
We're sailors on the moon, we carry a harpoon!
You have to be the son of an absent father to really get this movie. That's why for me this was Brad's best performance ever. The subtle indicators of his grief over his loss throughout the entire movie is genius, the mission itself, the pacing, the production and styling, is all just the journey to face his father and why he chose to do what he did. The briefing scene when they tell him his father is still alive, his reaction is some the best acting I've ever seen, delivered by a seasoned professional. It all really resonated with me. Obviously. ; - )
absent father.... isn't a father...its a sperm donor
Don't casually dismiss the dangers of enraged primates in space in front of Charlton Heston is all I'm saying...
It was pretty silly, it was trying to be Apocalypse Now in space
One of the first movies I ever fell asleep in the theater in.
The bit where the crew all died had me eye-rolling and LOL'ing like 'Well that was convenient 🤣', plus there doesn't seem to be any consequences for these dead astronauts by the end he's just back in a bar with his ex-wife 🤷♂
It seems like a very boring future and then suddenly he goes on what seems to be a short trip on a moon big and there are friggin' moon buggy pirates ROFL !
does seem like a simp these days
I fell asleep in the theater watching this film for about 20 minutes. After waking up, I realized that I didn't miss anything.
My girlfriend at the time did the same thing.
I stayed awake because I was waiting for it to pick up.
I remember watching this. And that's about all I remember. I was excited for a new "semi grounded space movie", and aside from a few visuals that I remember enjoying (I'm a sucker for very tactile, lived-in feeling sci-fi mechanisms and interiors), I just remember the experience feeling hollow. The only thing I can truly recall about the movie was when they started communicating in real-time on the radio across vast distances in space... I think that was towards the end, but that's when it finally hit me that the movie never had any intention on truly taking itself seriously, and was just content with "pretending".
Hey c’mon, the Apollo guys spoke to Nixon on his landline in the Oval Office with no delay. Are you implying that’s not possible?
The cinematography, acting, and sets were pretty stellar, but the plot was absolutely nonsensically disconnected. The gorillas in space episode was cringeworthy.
It seems like it tried to be too epic in scope, too much going on and yet it’s a 2 and a half hour film, it’s too long for modern cinema I think, they did too much “stuff” on this movie and it felt that way
Its only 2hrs.
But it's okay when Nolan does it.
"There was just dust everywhere on Earth for some reason...!"
@@bentonrp
It's not okay even when he does it, Nolan is overrated...much.
Pretentious - the only thing I felt leaving the cinema 5 years ago.
I remember watching that movie wondering... how did this screenplay get made?
Great production but not saving a story not worth telling.
Style over substance. That sums up the movie very accurately. BORING af!
I actually really enjoyed this one. I've watched it multiple times.
Same
Same. Love the movie! ❤
Me too. :) Really well done film, in every scene! I love Ad Astra!
I liked it, not perfect but a good story, good actors and great visuals.
@@19hadley74 I admit, I’m a sucker for space movies, especially ones with top notch visual effects 🤌
I really enjoyed this film. When I saw it at the cinema I was very depressed at the time and it resonated with me deeply. Upon a recent rewatch I noticed the issues with the movie that I overlooked last time.
"Lacking in heart" is the greatest sin of poor cinema.
However the ending has heart to show humanity is about relationships. Meaning in loving relationships.
Oh look, for all the potential epicness of space exploration, journeys to other planets and the possibilities of alien life, Hollywood just gives us another dead beat dad who abandons his family and screws up his son's life.
Was hoping this was another recommendation of an unsung gem; my wife and I both loved passengers after your review, but as it is, despite us both being big classic sf fans, methinks we'll pass.
Movies need to stop trying to be video games. It felt more like a video game story than a movie.
They landed a man on the moon a year before I was born yet still no moon base, all I had was munching on Space Dust candy whilst splashing about in puddles wearing my Moon Boots during the late seventies at least we had Space 1999 TV show
We have bases on the moon. Atleast the Chinese are more open about it. The world Is in order. Everything you see is a show. The news. Politics. Even the future. All planned. We haven't had a democracy since they took out JFK. We haven't had control of our country since 1912. They privatized everything in the late 90s so they could own the monopoly board of the 21st century. They make your movies your songs they give you false idols that lead you away from the truth. The truth is we are 100 years ahead of where we say we are. Like how we had that stealth bomber in the 50s and in the 90s presented it as something new as if we hadn't been using it for decades to spy.
And what do the crew of Moonbase Alpha do but knock the moon out of Earth's orbit... we can't win.
moon base...thats a bond villain dream...no point
The vibe in this vid is everything!
I remember watching it and enjoying it, but I couldn't tell you a thing about it now!
Ad Astra was terrible. I'm not even sure what it was actually about. It was barely science fiction. The science was wonky and the message was muddled. The only part I enjoyed on any level was the monkey scene. The Moon was...odd. Mars was poorly conceived. Nothing about getting to Neptune made sense. The FX were OK but to what point? It was a film that made me feel worse having seen it.
It reminded me of an 70s / 80s scifi film. Took its time, dependent on visuals and the story seemed like an afterthought.
The first time I watched it, and saw people walking down a hallway on Mars in a fashion consistent with earth gravity, I shouted “BULLSHIT! THIS AIN’T REAL!”
It's about 38% of earth's gravity so we'd be "lighter" but I'm not how it would look cinematically. In The Martian he seemed to just plod about like on earth.
Then don't watch Total Recall. 🤣
@@N1otAn1otherN1ame OMG! YOU JUST MADE ME HATE TOTAL RECALL!
@@QuartuvLarry 😬, sorry.
Ad Astra is a retelling of "Apocalypse Now," but set in space. Both movies are about getting from point A to B to find a renegade leader. The message is that we are alone in the universe so we have to appreciate living with each other. This was a good movie. Watch it again!
Pretending Interstellar was "intellectual" is hilarious
Obviously you don't know whole lot about science, and philosophy if you think it isn't.
Yeah, Interstellar is full of speeches about Love and Destiny, where the characters (if you can call them that) nearly break the 4th wall to preach to the audience.
Ad Astra is better grounded and more subtle in its storyline. Interstellar has its good parts, but on a whole, it is pretentious, like all Nolan films.
@@bentonrp Pretty Ironic how you say the story about love is "pretentious", but the story about nihilism is "grounded and subtle". You're probably an atheist lol
@@brando3342 interstellar is a shallow movie. made to people who pretend to be intelligent and deep. It has no characters, things just happen because they do, and scientists did dismiss the movie as not being realistic...
Basic physics, basic storyline and most basic consepts of modern science put together and it was enough for you to think the puddle you are in was the ocean...
You poor poor thing.
@@TheReaper569 You think you are so smart. The Dunning-Kruger effect exhibited in real time.
Did the Baboons at least have pulse rifles?
They tried to make a space version of Apocalypse Now with this rogue character far away and the long journey "up the river" to stop him. It didn't really work out that well.
The only memorable part of this movie is where Brad Pitt says "Can I have a blanket?" and the space stewardess says, "That will be $150."
This has some of the worst science I've ever seen in a film...
1) Going out to Neptune to take pictures is pointless, they won't be any better than on Earth
2) You can't fall from 400 kms up and parachute, you'll go so fast the heat will cook you
3) You can't use a 'metal shield' to safely pass thru a planet's rings
Those space stations and rockets were also actually bad. Visually it looked well, but wasn’t very futuristic for the time period it was supposed to be placed. To me, it seemed to be designed by someone whose ideas about cosmonautics are quite vague and are based only on occasionally seeing bits of it in news lets or museums, without being really interested in it. The story should be happening around 2050, I guess, but all the space technique looked to me like something from just 2010, only bigger in scale.
Look at the shiny bauble in my left hand while my right hand pick pockets you. That's how I see movies like this. What I mean is they want your money without having to take the effort to actually do anything to earn it so distract you with shiny effects and hope you forget about the lack of plot. To be fair it works on some people.
😂 "Look out! Brad Pitt is right behind you," and he really is!
Not some people. Most people. Unfortunately.
I liked the film but many did not probably because it was promoting the Rare Earth theory.
Snowflake Earth.
9:25 if there is no life in the universe it's pretty reckless to destroy the only place there is
It was originally titled "Human Vs Baboons On Mars" for the SYFY Channel. Then Steve Zaillian did a rewrite.
This always felt like an attempt to make Apocalypse Now in space to me.
_"...sounds like a bad time."_
- Zaphod Beeblebrox
Hang on didn't he kill 3 astronauts, 🤨 Oh well time to go home.
😂😂😂
I never even heard of it. I guess they didn't have a marketing budget.
It's Apocalypse Now in Space with daddy issues. I dig it.
At the time, I thought the movie was a rendition of those 1960s/1970s sci fi pulp science fiction stories. The designs and storytelling remind me of those.
The foul stench of JJ Abrams reeks in this film.
To me, if felt more like 'Apocylypse Now: In Spaaaaaaace'.
This movie felt like sipping a depresso and some waiter coming and refilling it.
I forgot how sleep inducing this film was. Sad that you reminded me. Tired now.
Well said.
Brad Pitt has had some real gems in his career, Cool World and 12 Monkeys are absolute treasures and Se7en is a classic.
A car chase and shootout with lunar rovers, and a killer space baboon.
That's literally the only two memorable scenes from this forgettable movie.
One of the worst movie I've ever seen. There was no point in anything.
the last part is when i really facepalmed so hard, just a couple of photos to say "there is no intelligence in ALL of space"
Took the words straight outta my mouth. I’ve recently been considering giving this movie another shot, but now, I’m confident I don’t need to waste my time. What a shame.
I got the feeling that the movie was supposed to be something else, but either got rewritten or badly cut.
Dave nailed it, along with the comments here. Ad Astra makes the last third of Sunshine say 'hold my beer. ' I do give credit to Tommy Lee for his role, but a well executed bad idea is still a bad idea. Kind of tragic given so many shorts on RUclips/ Dust do so much better with far less..
Oh God yes, that whole stowaway scene was the worst!
Wow, I saw this movie in the cinema and still completely forgot it existed.
Baboons in space ffs. Pirates on the moon. You can’t just pull up a rocket on the way to mars. So much wrong with this film I don’t know where to start….
He goes to mars in person to relay an audio message instead of sending an audio message to mars that they could just forward...
I expected a hard sci-fi movie, with an emphasis on realism, instead we got a depressing psychological drama about a son's relationship with his father.
The moon buggy sequence was amazing but pointless and made no sense. The rest of the story makes no logical or scientific sense either.
What I liked about Ad Astra was the emotional control Pitt’s character could maintain in almost every crisis.
At least I'll have something to watch while folding my laundry.
This movie is a complete RiP-OFF of 'I N T E R S T E L L A R', 'SOLARiS' and 'APOCALYPSE NOW'... BOTH of which were far better than 'Ad Astra'...
It's the kind of movie you watch on a plan and forget immediately afterwards.
Ad Astra tried to be this generation's 2001. When you say it's plodding, lacking in depth, and lacking in character, you can see how this is purely a superficial reading of 2001. Many people feel the same about Kubrick's film, which is nonsense. Kubrick said he wanted to avoid "intellectual verbalisation" so he could reach the "viewer's subconscious". 2001 is one of those films that you can understand on a technical level, because you can deconstruct what Kubrick did to make the film. But try and understand how he used technique and technology to tap into our subconscious is something filmmakers and film commentators have been struggling to define ever since the film came out. Ad Astra is just another failed attempt, and there will continue to be more and more failed attempts. I don't think anyone will fully comprehend what Kubrick did. The guy was a true genius, and this is why I think 2001 is the very best film ever made.
I’d forgotten I’d watched this movie. I wish you’d not have reminded me.
It's shown on TV quite frequently. I usually watch up to see the vicious baboons scene.. and then fall asleep. No idea how it ends.
Among the dumbest movies ever made.
You nailed the comparison between Interstellar and 2001 but I’m surprised you missed the big one. This movie is basically Apocalypse Now in space.
I went into this film when it was in the theater, quite enthusiastic.
What I found was intellectual suicide.
In a romcom there will be a scene where someone is running to an airport or to a church to stop the wedding. And the timing will be perfect. You can overlook those things because the whole thing is just very light-hearted and specifically not to be taken seriously. Likewise something like an episode of Seinfeld. It's smart it's funny but it has no real obligation to hold to any kind of facts or reality.
But a science fiction movie, and specifically a hard science fiction movie is all about the facts and the harsh reality. This isn't a Space Opera where one can expect Bimbos in Lycra to fight with lightsabers on the Jello planet.
This is supposed to look real, to feel real, to be real. It's supposed to be super plausible. And to that end a movie like this needs to be written by people who understand science. At the very least people who can spell the word science without using spell check.
So many cliches so many tropes so much ridiculous stuff. In the past 50 years we've sent a total of 12 men to the Moon. But we're given to expect that in another 50 years we're going to have a whole Wild West Town on the moon complete with Howard Johnson's. And then I can see when producer sitting in the back of the room smoking a joint thing there should be pirates. Pirates? Space pirates. Space pirates on the moon? Sure why not. They're there to steal the endurium or something.
Then a little later when Brad's on his way to Mars the same gentleman emerges from the back of the screening room and says you got to work space monkeys into this. Space Monkeys would be so cool.
Prior to this point I've already lost all respect for the film. The Space Monkeys seal its Doom. But the producers aren't through taking a dump on science. So after going on and on about zero gravity they show us Brad Pitt crying with a tear rolling down his cheek. In zero gravity.
This movie was written by morons that know nothing about the science whatsoever.
Does anyone have the slightest clue how far away Neptune is? If somehow like in a Superman comic book I could explode the planet Neptune, your great great grandchildren would be long buried before the first effects of that blast approached our world. Neptune is really far away. But we've got a guy with a radio and magical antimatter and he's going to blah blah magical blah blah end the Earth.
It's an insult to the level of science that I learned in grade 6, the things that they do in this movie. In terms of science in terms of holding to the facts this movie has got as much intellectual credibility as when Zsa Zsa Gabor played queen of Venus.
Honestly I left the theater seeing this movie as a slap in the face to everyone who has ever aspired to be something more than a B- student.
It's beyond garbage and should be burned and the ashes sprinkled in Mount Doom.
If the Lima project concluded that there was no intelligent life in the galaxy, perhaps they had their telescopes pointed at Hollywood.
When it comes to writing, a good frame of mind is think you're testifying in court and consider all the rules of hearsay, speculation and so on. Just tell them what happened and let the (fictional) facts speak for themselves. When you're not sure what to say, consider two opposing lawyers, what would they ask you to bring the story one way or another, but have them dip in and out.
I was blowing my nose into pancakes for weeks after I watched it. Same for "Interstellar"
I saw this when it came out. I remembered almost nothing about it.
Bottomline: 3 amazing actors who simply have nothing to do. It's a pity.
I watch a movie to fall asleep every night to clear my head and Ad Astra is one of my go to's, along with the likes of Solaris and a few other ambient, slow paced films, Pontypool, The Langoliers, Day of The Dead and John Carpenters Prince of Darkness are others in the mix.
For what I use it for, Ad Astra is superb. It's a warm blanket, it feels like home.
This movie could have been amazing. Unfortunately, they made so many unforced errors. The scene on Mars, trying to radio to Neptune is NOT going to be a two way conversation. It's hard to believe anything happening at Neptune is really going to cause a problem back on Earth. It's hard to believe they hadn't already sent rescue missions to Neptune long before. The list just goes on and on.
I've watched it a couple of times and always feel like I've missed something, I feel the same about Solaris 2002.
More style than substance.
I remember Brad Pitt saying the movie was about toxic masculinity. The point was that he was supposed to stop being an astronaut and go be with his girlfriend on earth.
I could never get over Tommy Lee Jones trying to kill his son and there was just something funny about them flying through space and there's no way that he would have made it back to Earth
Being alone in the galaxy is actually a great ending for the movie.
Any other outcome for humanity would be doom for us.
Words cannot accurately express how much I revile this movie. Why watch a movie that's TRYING to be Interstellar - just watch Interstellar for the twentieth time! Time well spent.
4:08 BINGO …it just sits there 🫤
I feel asleep within 20 min of start of film. Next day never rewatched film as very easily forgotten.
I couldn’t agree more with this review. After seeing Ad Astra in the theatre, and then the mostly positive reviews, I seriously doubted my ability to understand what makes a good movie. Style over substance sums it up. Beautifully filmed and well acted but no real plot. It drags and drags and drags, which you can forgive if there’s a payoff at the conclusion of the film - an “ah ha” moment of clarity. But in the end, Pitt’s character contributes nothing to the outcome. Father dead, which was inevitable anyway. No change in the answer to “is there life out there?” If he had stayed in bed the whole time (and maybe skipped the murder part) the outcome would have been the same. Also, no end of contrived plot (such as it was) points like why can’t Roy call dad from Earth? And what’s the point of moon pirates? What do they gain? Their only contribution was to deny Sutherland’s character, which would have happened anyway. It’s a terrible film that seems to have garnered reasonable reviews.
There’s a scene in this movie I remember when he is on mars in a corridor there’s a flickering light like a messy trash can and a stray dog nosing around
And it was one of the most believable things I’ve ever seen in a movie because this is how we will really go to space by taking all of our worst most useless baggage with us
Saw on an airplane and enjoyed it. Those moon scenes were awesome.
There are actually still people that think they live on a ball within a vacuum 🤔
it wasn't Max Richter's best score, but it still was the best thing about this movie for me
Yes. I watched this turd specifically because I'd heard Max Richter's score for it and thought "Space movie with Max Richter? Can't be that bad!"
Oof.
I think you missed it Dave. It's a retelling of Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness'. Going up the river to meet 'Kurtz', who has been 'infected' by the environment, and is making 'difficult' decisions, while going mad. It has great world building with the drugged up astronauts being unable to think for themselves, almost crashing the ship landing on Mars, and the constant psyche evaluations weeding out astronauts who think for themselves. Admittedly it's slow, but 'space monkeys' out smarting drugged up astronauts is quite brilliant... Over all though is quite slow, but if you are ready for it to be slow, it has much to admire.
Another JJ Abrams-like movie. Completely empty of substance and totally forgettable.
These need to come with: “warning cerebral SF” sticker for those of us who’d rather rewatch Outland (in space no one can hear your head explode) than another one of these.
I thought it was only so-so as a sci-fi movie, but I was rather impressed with Brad Pitt's portrayal of depression. His character barely ever lets the mask slip, and I felt his exhaustion and alienation.
It felt like I wasted 2 hours of my time.