Arcane is the Direction We Needed
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2021
- You and I both know that Arcane is amazing, but what you may not know is how badly I've wanted Riot Games to branch out from the small tunnel they've been operating in for years now.
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Yes there is Wild Rift but I'm talking about the events back in 2018 BEFORE Wild Rift guys.
What mobile game are you playing?
Betrayal is a powerful tool in storytelling if it is done right.
It can turn a friend to a powerful foe or a powerful enemy into a strong ally. However it is tough to get it right.
tbf outside looking in as a non leage person riot was also known for KDA even if it is just a league promo
victor didn't do further enhancements because he "wanted more power", his lungs were f*cked and they stil had to be fixed
On the silco deciding to help Powder....yes, he ends up genuinely helping her.
He was going to kill Powder until she hugged him, wanting comfort, and said that Vi left her alone, basically betrayed her.....and Silco saw himself in Powder. Because Vander and Silco were also adopted siblings....and Vander tried to drown him
That is why he hugged her back and promised they would pay for what they did to them. Heck you see him treating her like his own daughter.
Jinx: If i had a nickel for every time i have accidentally killed my adoptive father, i'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
lol
OoooH god No!!! xD
Dude!!! XD
I can hear this in her voice
tht is so wrongXD
One thing about the end, Silco wasn’t aiming his gun at Jinx, he was aiming it at Vi to try and make the choice for Jinx, but then… Well, you know the rest.
Seesh, i am not that crazy 💙💖💙💖💙💖💙💖💙💖💙💖💙💖
This is correct
The reason Silco goes to Marcus (corrupt cop's house) is because he failed to kill Vi and she is now out of prison. So Silco goes there to threaten him. Silco is consistently trying to get rid of and undermind Vi at any oppertunity. He truly was loyal and loved Jinx - but the love was twisted and unhealthy. Since Jinx was becoming unraveled- he only fed into her hatred.
I can't believe not enough people are noticing this lol.
This is the second video that said Silco tried to shoot Jinx and I was getting really unsure of myself :D
I like that Vi comes right to her. It doesn't take a season. It doesn't take a full series. She saw the signal and went there.
That moment was so beautiful. This show truly is a work of art
Same. I really thought that she wouldn't at first. Glad she did.
Same here. She told Powder/Jinx that she will come when its lit and she stayed true to that promise.
I love that Arcane as a show does this. They just do what's best for the plot, not focusing on what the audience would want or what is best financially. Like, sometimes shows are like "Oh, we can't kill this character, because people like them, and if we kill them, the audience will not come back" or like "Is better if we wait a full season for this characters to reunite so we keep the hype up, and more people keep watching the show". Arcane is not like that. If they have to kill a character, they do it, because that's what the plot says; that is how things work. And they will reunite this two characters immediately if they get the chance, bc that's what this characters would actually do; that is how things work. Like, that is what would happen in the real world. And we know it's a fictional show, but at having this real life elements on it (like Dead don't discriminate if you're a protagonist or a secondary character, or if you find your sister after YEARS, of course the first thing you would do is go to her immediately) it really feels like you are watching something real, and that it's actually more engaging than waiting the whole series for the main characters to actually meet.
It was about time we get a show that cares about the plot and their characters, more than what it's best financially.
That scene stuck with me the most. If only Caitlyn and Ekko waited a bit longer 😭😭
I feel like Silco was a mix of both. On one hand, he genuinely saw Jinx as his daughter and truly did care about her. On the other hand, he loved her in a possessive and manipulative way.
That a god writing of an abusive relationship, that he is just incredibly toxic and abusive, but ares fo her, in his way. Thats what most abuse would likely look like. And showing the ambivalence in that relationships.
@@marocat4749 he kinda feels like shera's shadow weaver's relationship with Micah. She manipulates him, but in an almost unwilling way? Like they know they're manipulating someone and that's bad but they think they're doing it for the right reason
@@mimikyulover3411 OH DAMN i never thought of it that way
He cared for her but wasn't a good father
Silco saw Jinx as a reflection of himself. He wanted to give Jinx what he couldn't have, which is what most parents do, but he also wants her to become like him. If Jinx become like Powder, it proves that his philosophy is all wrong. Powder being abandon and becoming Jinx is proof that he too was just a product of the society and it's Piltover's fault for not caring about Zaun, and turn him into what he is. That's why Silco is so afraid of Vi coming back and changing Jinx. To Silco, Vi is his existential crisis.
Silco was aiming gun at Vi, not Jinx. He realised, that the memories, Vi tried to invoke in Jinx, were actually hurting her, and he wanted Vi to stop.
He actually shot Vi and missed
@JMK Dude. Everyone knows that and it's not gonna change. Why do you keep reminding people that? This is getting old :l Wait a little more years for your brain to develop nuances.
@@hinnyu7748 because waayyy too many people seem to think the opposite. U'd be surprised how dumb people are, but then again it is art so ig we interpret it in different ways so maybe I am just the stupid one.
He wasn't doing it for any noble reason. He was trying to get rid of Vi so he could have sole influence over Jinx. Silco was NOT a good person. His intentions were not "noble", and I wish people would stop trying to excuse his actions or try to see them in some kind of "But he was REALLY protecting her.." when he'd gaslit her and manipulated her PTSD towards his advantage for years. And then when she started to gain an independence away from his influence he would reinforce her PTSD to keep her from rebelling against him. That's why he kept lying to her about Vi's intentions.
Silco wanted to continue to be sole influence over Jinx, Vi stood in the way of that, so he tried to kill Vi. Simple as that.
Not giving him any excuses, but this is why Silco is so well written. People find empathy for him, in some mysterious ways, they can relate to him, or at least explain the weird, noble and terrible things about him. Sure, the guy's toxic, and deeply twisted. What he has with Jink isn't just fatherly love, it also comes with manipulation, lies, deception. The ambition, the dream he has, colliding with the horrid, terrifying methods he uses, willing to do ANYTHING to achieve what he wants. Yet, over time, he found the one line he'll never cross: give up on Jinx, even if it means crushing his own dream. His character is so much wider than the simple manipulative-murderous-lying-trash psychopath.
Yes, he wants complete control over Jinx, trying to erase every bits of Powder that stayed within her, keeping a tremendous emotion influence. Only, in this scene, when Vi desperatly tries to make her remember their family, Jinx is having a litteral meltdown. She doesn't see her family as they were, but instead, dead talking corpses and monsters. It frightens her, we see her curl up, becoming smaller, and every name makes it more and more unbearable. I don't know if Vi realised, but Silco sure did. He raised her. He knew better than anyone, depise him being...well. Him. Shooting Vi, it's not only getting rid of her to ensure his grip on Jinx. He WANTS to get her out of this dark place. He loves her in his own, so very twisted, disturbed way.
Ngl I love the discussion between people about Silco's character, if he was a genuine father to Jinx or just a manipulator. It really makes people think. I love mediums like that, invoking discussions.
He’s just a manipulator who wanted a daughter.
@lforc Exactly right
@lforc I saw a therapist react to their relationship and she said that they really built a strong foundation of trust and yet Silco was acting on his abandonment issues, but you can also see in his good eye the pity and empathy towards Powder when they first met. No one really knows if he's purely evil or a flawed human and the duality and uncertainty just proves the writing is beautiful
I don’t think there’s that much debate to be had tbh. He very obviously genuinely loved her the whole time. I think the people who think he doesn’t just can’t quite reconcile the fact that his love is real with the _also_ true fact that he’s still a genuinely terrible person, because in fiction love tends to be depicted as some sort of universal force for good that evil people don’t experience or comprehend.
@@hannessteffenhagen61 Completely agreed.
At the end with the statue, Silco isn’t “lamenting over what he must do” he is actually saying he won’t give up Jinx to the top siders, that he loves Jinx too much to give her up for his dream, the Nation of Zaun, if you read between the lines:
It’s all said in the statue scene where he poors one out to his brother Vander. “Is there nothing as undoing as a daughter.” “It all makes sense now brother.” Meaning Silco has realized why Vander gave up the cause, that Jinx has undone his will to “do anything for power”. In the end he becomes like Vander, unwilling to give up his daughter for the cause.
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so in a way he is lamenting that he has to give up zaun for his daughter, aka what he must do? ;3
Lamenting what he *will* do, maybe?
Since he's sacrificing his noble goal for his kid
To those who wanna get into League because of this show, DON'T-
Why not?
@@Ninitendo do you value your sanity? If yes -- avoid at all cost. Card game is good though
@@Ninitendo and also because RIOT Games has been under fire for harassment and gender discrimination along with Activision Blizzard. Personally I 🏴☠️ Arcane because of this. If you wanna support the showrunners and not Riot look up their other credits. Alot of animators on this show actually worked on spiderverse, as both of them were in production at the same time.
@@user-uh7xx9lg4v i've played Wild Rift but deleted it because I got bored so I didn't get addicted.
@@depressedbunny12 I will do that. Its sad that Blizzard is getting away with this
About Silco being a good father...
Feeding her hatred, covering for her whenever she messes up, and the overall too-close-for-confort dinamic is not healthy. He gave her what he believed she deserved and failed in taking care of what she needed.
So i don't think Silco was a good father. He loved her, he was sincere... But It was not good.
He really adhered to her because she reminded him of himself. He wanted to mold her to be just like him. He loved her, but in a twisted way. I think he was entirely loyal. He was definitely trying to kill and get rid of Vi at any oppertunity because she was the ONLY one who would take his precious Jinx away.
@@blacksesamecandies Precisely!
Couldn’t of put it better!
The root of why so many people love Silco as a villain was because he was pure evil, but still genuinely loved Jinx. He gave her everything that made him who he was, not realizing that different people need different things to become strong. If he had been as honest with himself, as well as Jinx, from the start as he was in his final moments, he would have actually been able to have both of the things he desired: A free nation of Zaun AND the daughter he has grown so attached to... But, this story is a tragedy for all involved, including the bad guys...
@@Hey-Its-Dingo true...
This is the result of hyper-fixation and anxiety to fall in love with a show with so much baggage and it’s just amazing.
I like that Silco isn't all powerful. He got knocked out by the doctor. Jinx is clearly a threat to him.
I mean Singed, the doctor, can flip almost anyone like their a rag doll. He has done some work on himself too.
Powder wasn't feeling bad because of what happened to Vander, but because she was abandoned. Which is why even when Vander died, she didn't cry as much - she never connected to him as Vi did. To her, after her parents died, the only family she has was Vi, which is why when Vi abandoned her after Powder accidentally killed everyone, Powder screams ''I need you. Why did you abandon me?''
She never asked 'where is Mylo?' or 'Vander' as she only seeked for Vi and her approval when she tried to help. She only regrets everything, and the spirits haunt her only because Vi told her that it's *her* fault because she's a *Jinx*. If Vi never said that, Powder would have thought they died because of smth else. Which is why she only feels the guilt because Vi was angry of her and left her because of it.
This might seem messed up, but Powder, as someone who lost her parents at a very young age, glues herself to the only one left, Vi. She gets very attached to Vi specifically, and not the others, and not even Vander. (Note: you can see that Vi cried a lot, especially seeing Vander die, whilst Powder had her back turned to Vander and only focused on Vi) Powder didn't want to go and save Vander specifically, but go with Vi, she was afraid of losing Vi too after losing her parents. ''But you said family got to stick together'' Powder's words to Vi before she went to save Vander.
I do agree overall that her largest and biggest pillar was vi but i believe in the scene where she sees vanders corpse and claggers goggles that was the show, showing not telling that she just comprehended all threes deaths.
Yes, I mostly agree, but it also seems to me through several scenes, Powder just refused to acknowledge the fact that she killed them. Not that she doesn’t care
@@aizere3176 She's a child and it was an accident, Powder just wanted to help Vi. And she didn't had a close relationship with Vander or the rest of their group, they always judged her and told her she's incapable to do something right, Meelo literally calls "Jinx" right from the beginning. Vi on the other hand is the only left of her family and the only person Powder has an actual relationship/connection with, Vi comforts her and takes care of her, so it's only logical that the deaths of Vander and the 2 guys didn't hurt her as much as Vi literally abandoning her.
8:25 -> that scene isn't really meant to show us the origin of the crystals, but more the origin of Jayce's obsession with magic.
The crystals themselves are either mined in Shurima (another region of the universe) or synthetically created in Piltover/Zaun.
We do see a use of what looks similar to the crystals Powder stole though, so yeah they give a connection there.
Did you notice the sound design with the crystals? You're clued in the fact the crystals themselves are alive.
I'm not familiar with them being created by humans, from Jayce's journal we know these were mined in Shurima (and in the main universe they are exclusively from the brackern)
Ah, found it mentioned in Camille's bio and "Child of Zaun", the second telling much more about them :D (But it sounds like that in the main universe purple is the real thing and blue is the knockoff, do I understand that right?)
Something that really hurts is the fact that vander sacrificed himself so vi isnt arrested but she ends up going to jail anyways
The thing I love is that Jace doesn’t just happen to have illegal equipment. It was him buying illegal equipment in the under city that let Echo get the tip on the first place.
the fact you called it "league of lesbians" made me giggle, esp bc that's what amanda overton called it and she's a writer on the show itself. speaking of! i was excited to see this video in my notifs, i'm already on my tenth rewatch of the show and was waiting to see how you'd react to it. bravo! you brought up a lot of good points, one of which i've seen the most discussion around - silco and if he genuinely cared for jinx or was just able to identify her usefulness and was exploiting her weakness (need for affection) to get what he wanted.
damn my initial stint only got me through 6 rewatches
then mother-dearest decided it was an UnHeAlThY oBsEsSiOn
league of legends? More like league of Lesbians 😏🏳️🌈💖❤🧡💛💚💙💜🏳️🌈
Silco and Jinx is what happens when a traumatized and damaged man with attachment issues becomes the adoptive father to a traumatized and damaged child with attachment issues. I think that Silco at first was gonna use and manipulate Powder however after she hugged him he realized she was the exact same as him and this led to him truly loving her as his daughter, after all the world had treated both of them like trash and that shared suffering connected them deeply.
(Also the time skip may or may not have been 6 or 7 years)
Two things I want to point out:
1. Silco really loved Jinx as his daughter, his monologue in Vander's statue shows this.
2. Jayce is the most hated character in the series and I don't know why. He did that to Heimer because he wanted to save his friend (Viktor), Heimer doesn't really knows the human's strugle because he's imortal, so when he said ten years would pass in a blink of a eye I really felt the Vikor and Jayce's disappointment towards him. I even standed by Jayce's side when he decided to do that with Heimer, because althrough Heimer was right about the danger of Hextech, but he wasn't prepared to handle the social problems as a counselor.
My problem with Jayce was his inconsistencies as a character. He says one thing in one scene and then does the complete opposite the second someone tells him to. Heimer is one of the few people he knows and yet somehow never has a proper conversation with him about how they can safely move forward. He states that Viktor is his “brother” (and Viktor saved his life btw), but never talks to him about what they should do, instead he makes all the decisions on his own (including shutting things down which he should know would be bad for Viktor), and on top of that he saw Viktor cough up blood and nearly topple over a railing only to ignore that and bang a girl he had barely any screen time with to suggest they were interested that way. Just so…. they could show Viktor practically destroy himself over top of it? Which says what about a sick character struggling on their own vs a man who was given everything and takes it for granted? Also the scene with Vi made no sense idk why he decided to do that. It felt like a forced way to have him accidentally kill an innocent and have a heartbeat of clarity.
His character is a lot of “wow Heimer and Viktor you guys mean a lot to me, but i’m never showing how much i appreciate or respect them as important people in my life except for one time each.” Heimer the first time he listened about not sharing his work yet and then when Viktor ended up in the hospital which then made him turn his back on Heimer immediately. Where’s his concern for these people that are supposed to mean something to him? Sure he sucks at politics and is in over his head, but he can’t keep saying one thing and doing things that go the opposite direction. At some point it gets tired.
Jayce is sort of easily manipulated but at the same time not?? I love that everyone is flawed tho!!
@@AwkwardFellow That not a bad trait to make a character engaging, its very human, even if he is a hypocrite, thats human and good writing.
Usually when you have a most hated character, thats on purpose, that well written, probably like jayce is not a good guy, and how he behaves is not good..
@@marocat4749 The problem I have with it is that the way he was written makes me not understand what they want me to feel about him. Is he an asshole? Is he loyal? Is he a coward? Is he a rebel? I don’t know because he flip flops so much that his motivations makes no sense to me. That’s why he’s poorly written. Someone like Jinx, I love because she’s consistent in her madness. I understand Silco and his flaws. I love to hate Grayson because she made me cheer even more for Vi. I understand every single character except for whatever they’re doing with Jayce. He feels out of character every time he’s on screen. That’s not a character flaw. That’s bad writing.
Idk if I missed something somewhere but I just know I don’t like how he’s written. In concept “a well meaning guy who’s in over his head and makes mistakes” is an interesting character, but he doesn’t seem to learn and keeps trusting people who were pointed out to him as being corrupt + wanted him gone until he was useful and will get rid of him the second he isn’t since they are the most trigger happy group of leaders I’ve ever seen. He changes his mind every five seconds it’s unrealistic and feels ridiculous to watch him act like two different characters simultaneously.
Adding that someone said it best:
“I think the writers wanted to show that Jayce is flawed but they insisted on that so much that he almost became a joke. He gets played literally every time he talks to another character in the show which leads him to change opinions every 10 minutes”
You gotta love a show for recognizing immortal/mortal paradigm issues
Arcane is the first show ever about which I asked my boyfriend to rewatch it with me three days after we finish it. Riot has proven their skills long ago with their music videos but Arcane is a masterpiece I didn´t expect.
Also fun fact: Vi and Jinx being sisters was never really mentioned in the game lore, you only ever learn that they have history which leads to them actually having been a ship in the fandom. Uncomfortable
ah. so luke and leia.
IIRC, there was a mention--or something subtle with it. The community/fandom was actually split into 2 in terms of that. Shipping the two and then treating the two as sisters. It wasn't canon and said out loud but there were implications. I can't sadly give receipts and etc. because it's been so long since the two came out in the game. Now however, there's finally proof and that's all that matters :D
It was mentioned by champ designers but not in official lore.
@@UnDefinedLegacy Ohh! Yes thank you!
@@UnDefinedLegacy isn't there comics with jinx and vi in LoR saying that they're sisters? I haven't played LoR in a while but I remember comics featuring the two of them
I JUST finished watching Arcane, and with all due respect, this video DOES NOT do this series justice.
The animation, world building and story telling is by far some of the best I’ve ever seen, you can FEEL the emotion coming off of every character at every scene, and the experience is rattling, seeing everything go so downhill where you know there won’t be a turning back point. I ABSOLUTELY recommend you watch this show as soon as possible, because it’s truly amazing.
Fr it just kinda sounds like a Wikipedia article that skips all of the nuances and interpretations to summarize the plot at face value
@@dovefin Netflix
29:49
Actually, it was Vi.
Silco wasn't trying to go on Jinx but killing the only person who was treating to take her from him.
There is one thing Id like to add: At the end of act one when Powder hugs Silco, as he looks around realising what happened you can really see in his eyes that he understands the situation Powder is in. He was in a really similair situation before as we saw in the flashbacks, he was betrayed and left behind by his brother, just like Powder was betrayed and left behind by her sisther (Vi didnt have much of a choice but Powder doesnt know that). I think this is why Silco took her in, because he knew that pain and connected to her. This is also the reason I believe Silco did love Jinx and was like a daughter to him, and Silco a father to Jinx.
Thank you for mentioning that Jinx finally accepted who she is. Vi was trying to make her become Powder again so hard and it bugged me a lot. Im not saying it was wrong of Vi to try to make Jinx a good person again. What Im trying to say is that she kept insisting that Jinx is someone she is not, at least not anymore. There is a difference between 'I know deep down shes a good person' and 'I know Powder is still in there' after all. As a trans person with parents who keep insisting Im someone Im not, this part of the story really resonated with me and I think you can see why.
Also Ive got an idea on what might happen to the council. In the fight scenes the orb in the weapons were able to create a shield in certain situations. Judging from the characters reactions they didnt control the shield, the orb made it all by itself. Victor is fused with the hexcore, which means it is possible a shield will be created saving Victor and a couple people around him. The hexcore seemed to be sentient to some degree, it might save Victor.
I'm sorry, I can't fully agree with you. While I sympathize with your personal experiences (truly, my heartfelt condolences on your very identity being questioned and ignored, maybe even rejected. Please continue to stay strong and well!) I can't agree with Jinx accepting who she is. In every instance, she has continued to become... well a jinx to everyone she interacts with be it her adoptive fathers, sister, Ekko, etc.
Problem is, she never intended to harm any of them. Her intentions, although not as good as they once were, have always been counterproductive to the ppl she cared for causing then much pain and suffering. Even after becoming self-aware, she continues to create chaos fully knowing the harm it will cause and tries to justify her own actions because of her traumatic past, as if she's the only one hurting. Jinx then denies all responsibility for the pain she's caused, pushing the blame onto others, mostly Vi. In her denial, she chooses not to feel any remorse anymore. We know it's there but she shields herself from it. With no proper guidance, she's chosen the path of villainy but that's not who she wanted to be. She wanted acceptance and to be helpful. Now, she's merely given up imo.
Part of Vi's motivation might have been to get the sister of her memories back but I felt it was more bc Powder is good natured and within Jinx, Vi still believes that the little girl who always wanted to help (even though she fails to) is present. And I don't see that as a bad thing since Powder is still a part of her. It's different from trying to make a person into what they're not.
Bc of all this, I can't support Jinx embracing "who she is". I'm fine with her accepting the change in herself but I can't get behind her belief that it's okay to stay as she is knowing her actions cause unintentional pain. I can appreciate great villains/villanesses who cause trouble with chaos as their purpose but Jinx always leaves me frustrated and a little sad.
@@mysticmusical yeah youre right, thank you for pointing it out. I have to watch the show again to pay attention to these details that kinda went over my head and also other details i probably missed
@@mysticmusical I’m not about supporting or against Jinx embracing who she is. I see it as more of a tragedy where everyone falls to a fallen place and it is inevitable.
The thing I disagree with is that Jinx has given up on trying to be good. Which is why she ends up at Jinx at the end. I think that Jinx at the end becomes Jinx because Silco gives her an unconditional love that she was searching for, she gives Vi the option where she could be Powder again, but she refuses. Silco gives her validation that she is strong and perfect, while everyone else calls her a Jinx. Even Vi turned on her as a kid. Jinx says, “I thought you could love me the way you used to. But it wasn’t just me that changed, you did too.” Meaning Vi can’t love Jinx the same way anymore, so in her search for love and acknowledgement it’s ultimately Silco who prevails.
Where in one situation Vi punches, abandons, and calls Powder a Jinx when Jinx fucks up. Silco gives up everything for his daughter, and even in death doesn’t blame her he affirms her and lifts her up.
After reading an watching way to many videos I can say the hex is in fact sentient if they tie them into what I suspect.
I get where you’re coming from, but Vi was just as traumatized. She watched her entire family die in front of her in a situation she felt responsible for, was locked up in a hellish prison and brutally beaten up every day for years, and she was just a child too, and the thing that got her through it was thinking about her sister Powder and her desire to get back to her. To go through all that, only to find out what happened and that your sister is essentially gone now, is unbearable. It makes complete sense to me why she wanted Powder back. I don’t Vi or Jinx for how either of them felt or acted, and that’s what makes this show such a perfect tragedy. Truly incredible writing.
A big part of silco's reason for taking powder in is because he saw himself in her. He was betrayed, in his eyes, by his own brother and when powder came to him saying that she abandoned her he wanted to take her in not just for her, but for his own sake. He says "it's okay, we'll show them" cause he wants to fight against the memory of his brother and prove that they can survive on their own and that they are in the right. He genuinely grows to care for jinx, and yes he is manipulating her, but a good portion of what he says is what he himself genuinely believes. I think their dynamic is fascinating, one of my favorite things about the show.
Arcane is a MASTERPIECE
yess
I agree
No
@@malphite8797 why no?
Damn this was a lot of fun!
For a really weird testament to how good Arcane is; I showed it to my spouse, and they loved it! But they also know so little about League of Legends that it took 4 episodes for them to realize;
"Wait...this isn't Overwatch."
"I was so caught up in the tension of that scene I didn't even think about the obvious at all"
THIS. even though we knew wehre it was leading because...jinx. we literally know her end game
even then...I still had to stop after that episode and just...go snuggle my dog for a few minutes while I struggled to catch my breath. even knowing what she would do I still spent that entire scene hoping she would stay wtih vi.
I always interpreted Silko's behaviour of actually loving Jinx like a daughter, and him aiming at them was rather aiming at Vi/Caitlyn then Jinx. He wanted to get rid of the people who where about to take his daughter away from him, but Jinx wasn't ready to see her sister die, even when they were different people by now.
I still play league of legends off and on. I need a break from the occasional toxic player that takes the game way too seriously. Nowadays I find more nicer players than toxic players.
Arcane was the best thing they created. The animation is so cool and creative, not to mention orgins of jinx (the character I play as the most other than ahri and kayne) and all the mother characters we seen so far. Can't wait for s2.
Do you report the toxic players.
I'll never play League of Legends but this show was great. I want more. Just animate it! Don't make me play the game! Shows are better!
Sameee
Here's to hoping we get more good adaptations in the future🤞
I don't care for the game, but that lore and cinematics and music videos was what I was here for. 🤣
I think one of my favorite things about this show is that almost everyone is in a morally grey area. It does have "good guys" and "bad guys" but sometimes those good guys do things with bad intention and sometimes the bad guys do things with good intention. I.e. Silco, a "bad guy", really does care for Jinx like a daughter and Vi, a "good guy", is not afraid of violence or hurting others, though it depends on who, to achieve what she thinks is right.
In Victor's defense by 'people' I believe he is pertaining to the people of under city as he saw first hand growing up as a zaunite. But inevitably it includes him, as he is part of it, obviously medical issues are a product of how the undercity is being treated by the topside as said by Jayce when he first collapsed to his sickness.
Yeah it is VERY interesting that Arcane feels current.
When it's a prequel to League of Legends & the adaptation of stories that were part of League Lore for ... several years if not a decade
15:33 as someone dealing with complex PTSD this is supprisingly exactly how i live with trauma. Memories scratched out (or how i say it "having as many holes like a swiss cheese") and more scarier then it probably was, but none of the less traumatic. Sometimes i also have memorys that actually didn't happend that way, just some aspect were real.
Also jinx could suffer under psychosis, i do too while it isn't really like that and i never interact with it, it is different for everyone else in one way or another
Yeah... you got something pretty fundamentally wrong about Silco btw.
Its not that he realized she didn't know who he was... it's that he literally saw the situation and was having some serious flashbacks to Vander Betraying and trying to kill him when she said "She's NOT my sister!"
You can tell by the way the shot was framed with him staring down at her while she was saying it then glancing UP at Vander.... then the way his face changes in that moment as if he just had a realization. And that's when his hand hovers over her... unsure as to what to do next... then settles into hugging her close.
... because... she's just like him.
Fundamentally it was not a moment of advantage being taken... it was a moment of Empathy being shared.
Pretty much all of your Assumptions about Silco are basically tainted by the assumption that he's outright trying to use Jinx... the problem is that that's not the story being told.
The problem is that Silco is fundamentally trying to teach her the lessons he learned, the things that made him into the man he is today. Unfortunately ALL of those lessons are WRONG and TWISTED by the fact that he formed them in the shadow of fighting off the boot off his neck.
The main thing is that Silco and Vi both want the best for Jinx... but the BEST that both of them wanted was NOT the thing that Jinx needed.
Keep in mind that both what you and Negative have to say about Silco are your own individual interpretations. No need to sound hostile over a show buddy.
@@Biippa Hostile? ~blinks~
@@HimitsuHunter everybody wants to be your enemy..... Y Y Y Y
As a writer who has been fucked over by a major studio, I appreciate how you ended with the dialogue opening up about how badly we get treated when we are the skeleton of every project.
Game of thrones was on top until the rush of the last season and incomplete writing led to its disastrous ending permanently making the entire journey feel like it isn't worth the pay off.
Both game of thrones and Arcane are tragedies. One just knew how to end
I mean its pretty clearly shown that Silco cares for Jinx as a father and sees himself in her, even if she is useful to him.
Tbh she isn’t really useful to him either… she made a lot of Silco’s associates distasteful with his leadership and causes a lot of anger to most people in Zaun. Silco would also have everything he wanted if he simply agreed to give Jink up, yet he wasn’t going to go through w it.
Becoming a father was his downfall (even if he was a toxic one)
Arcane didn't catch my interest at first but after hearing so many good things about it,i had to know if the hype was worth it or not and it was.thanks for covering this. May i suggest The Dragon prince?
OMG YES! I love that series! The animation and story is great :0
I don't know how so many people miss the fact that Silco was aiming for Vi and not for Jinx
Arcane is amazing!! Im so glad that Negative Legend is covering this show
At the end of act 1 you said Silco realised Powder doesn't know who he is and decides to "help" her but I think you missed some of the nuance of that scene. Initially he was going to use Powder not knowing who he was to get her to lead him to Vi for murder but when he asks "where's your sister" she clings to him and says Vi left and she's not her sister any more and Silco glances at Vander and empathises with what Powder is going through in that moment from his own feelings of betrayal from Vander. The flashback at the start of this episode and the exchanges Silco had with Vander informed his character enough that Silco hugging Powder and saying telling her we'll show them has much more depth than just deciding to get a child to work for him
29:49 Silko did not aim at Jinx, he aimed at Vi. You can see how he warely missed Vi's head when he hits the chair in to chich she is tied.
What I find interesting is that the writer of the show, Amanda Overton, even explains that in the world of Arcane/Runeterra (which is the name of the world they’re from), there are no concepts of racism or homophobia - xenophobia at best but even that is illustrated why others world be that way, or at least wary of others.
I feel like because of it, it is how we are able to see the characters naturally progress and develop.
I hate the way people interpret Silco taking Jinx in as some calculated evil move, the way that scene plays out I'm pretty sure he was literally gonna kill her but changed his mind when he started seeing himself in her, you can see the "oh, you're like me" realisation on his face
I love how emotionally engaging this was. Especially when they parted and everyone dies.whooooooa I couldn't even breathe
Something that I feel needs mentioned is that in runeterra the ultimate evil is the void, essentially a dimension that just wants to consume the normal one. The hextech core Victor makes seems to be a device that’s channeling the void, this is what Heimerdinger sees and is terrified of.
Me: Let's watch a short video before sleep time
Negative Legend: 33:39 it is
No hate, btw, I enjoy longer videos too, if they are interesting)
6:00 Masks wouldn’t have done anything. The enforcers had no idea who Vi&Crew were, faces or no. What they did know was that they were from the Undercity, which they could tell from their general appearance and where they were fleeing to. I’d guess they didn’t exactly have high quality topside clothing just lying around that could’ve misled their pursuers, and of course the whole point of the exercise (and the reason why they climbed over the roofs) was because they never intended for anyone to actually see them:
7:00: Actually Ekko was the informant. No adults involved in this.
21:00 Silco never lied to Jinx, he genuinely thought Vi was dead. Marcus kept the fact she was still alive secret from him.
25:40 Don’t agree that it’s hard to tell. Silco has shown _nothing_ but affection for Jinx, even when it’s to his disadvantage so we know it’s not an act. He’s definitely not a good person, but his love for her is quite real.
26:50 you make it sound like that was intentional lol
29:35 I think this is less a situation of “who to trust”; Jinx has trust issues yes but the issue here is more that she loves both of them but Vi and Silco represent opposed forces both in the political sense and more personally in what kind of person they want to and expect her to be.
29:51 Silco aims at Vi, not Jinx.
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Also, I think a lot of people miss an important point in that scene - Silco was right. Picking Vi was never really an option, not for the long term. Years have passed and Jinx has spent too many years being Jinx, a violent criminal who _enjoys_ being a violent criminal, to really truly be able to go back to her old self; She couldn’t even she wanted to, and I don’t really buy that she ever really wanted to. She wanted her relationship with Vi back, but she didn’t want to cease to be who she was.
Silco saw Jinx as a reflection of himself. He wanted to give Jinx what he couldn't have, which is what most parents do, but he also wants her to become like him. If Jinx become like Powder, it proves that his philosophy is all wrong. Powder being abandon and becoming Jinx is proof that he too was just a product of the society and it's Piltover's fault for not caring about Zaun, and turn him into what he is. That's why Silco is so afraid of Vi coming back and changing Jinx. To Silco, Vi is his existential crisis.
At the tea party scene and think silco was pointing the gun at Vi because he saw that she was stressing jinx out. And then jinx lashed out by instinct to protect her sister. I feel like this is a more realistic thing to happen because I don’t feel that silco would have this big predicament on whether to give up jinx or start a war to then go try to kill her. He saw that Vi was indirectly hurting jinx and tryed to protect her and jinx being as unstable as she is reacted in protection of her sister.
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Its important distinction that at this point Jayce and Viktor saw themselves as making *tools*, naively not even considering their potential as weapons that can harm anyone
And I think the slow alluded to it well by showing the laser arm malfunctioning a little (foreshadowing for us viewers), but that Viktor didn't even bother to remove the controlling glove and neither he nor Jayce reacting at all to how Heimer could have died or be severely maimed
They were so tunnel-visioned on their ideals of applications that helped ppl in their livelihood and ease their daily living
There have been technically ways to enjoy the LoL universe before Arcane, and that was just reading the lore and short stories on the Universes page which... is not coded the best, admittedly. Before the page existe character lore was also included in other places, even in the game itself at some point. I've been a fan of Viktor and Jayce's lore for over 7 years now, they have always been pretty niche characters both as LoL champions and in the fandom, so seeing them be a pretty major point in Arcane is pretty insane. Being able to see art of Viktor pretty much everywhere is especially INSANE, just a few years back maybe like 5 people cared about him in total. Admittedly so far in Arcane he is shown very differently than he is in the game universe but I'm stoked for how he ends up in S2.
I personally don't think Viktor only talks about himself when he wants the technology to help people - he genuinely cares about other people, just in extreme ways, at least in the game universe. I interpret it this way: he wants to cure himself to make sure he lives to improve lives of many people like him, basically.
Silco does love jinx, he was betrayed by vander, and sees his trauma in jinx
Silco doesn't want power, he wants independence
Silco aimed at vi, not jinx
No, league doesn't have a story mode
I think that's everything
Honestly i can't make a prediction for season 2. Every time I thought I had the story flow figured out something happend and all my theories crumbled. It has been quite some time since I watched something I could not predict the generell outcome of! And I am absolutely here for it!
I think you read wrong the relation between Piltover and Zaun.
Zaun, aesthetically, fells like a favela. But, in practice, I think it's more of a colony, and Piltover is the metropole. So, rather than having responsibilities towards the people of Zaun, Piltover treats it as a territory for exploration. Piltover disrupts their politics, controls their economy and polices their streets with no intention for their well-being, because Zaunites aren't really citizens of Piltover, at least not fully.
Glad you watched Arcane, it was the most enthralling show ive seen all year and definitely one of the best animated things ever.
Which is odd because League of Legends doesn't inspire much confidence, yet here we are. They didn't have to make it as great as they did, but they went all out and for that I applaued them.
It's a shame about the animation industry because we've gotten SO many great series in the past few years. Maybe Arcane will change people's perspectives.
I'm surprised that some people get the impression Silco was aiming at Jinx. I think it's obvious he's mad at Vi.
I do envy the people who got to dive into Arcane without having all the baggage of LoL to contrast it to.
The thing is both Vi and Silco loved Jinx, though Vi loved the little girl who was gone. Silco loved Jinx unconditionally.
The dynamic between Jynx and Silco was so complex. I really had difficulty telling whether it was all manipulation on Silco's part or if he really did being to care for her, because he saw so much of himself in her.
One thing I love about Silco's character is how it's EXTREMELY vague what his exact relationship with Jinx is. He presents as a father, but there's also a lot of uncomfortably intimate shots and behaviour that imply he's taking advantage of her in a very very not-alright way. He's manipulating her for his own gain, but there are also scenes that imply he *cares* about her. It could be that she just never grew out of that far more physically close relationship that younger kids have with their parents, (sitting on laps, snuggles, etc.) It creeps us out and that's INTENTIONAL.
He loves her. Either as a pure asset, an object of desire, a genuine adopted daughter, or a combination. In what way, we don't know. We never get an answer, and I LOVE that. It just reeks of bitter complexity.
hmmm, 1 thing about Viktor: it's not his leg is the problem, his body is weakened, that's why he has his cane, replacing 1 limb would extend little life but it shows that he's degrading sllowly again.... and that's why he went for more, not just seeking power but he did lose to the call of power.
The fact that I just finished watching it is great timing
A video I've been waiting for, ik its gonna be an amazing masterpiece 👁🌌💕
Edit: ALSO ARCANE IS AMAZING THE ANIMATION AND STORYLINE IS * CHEF'S KISS *
I was waiting and hoping for you to made a video about Arcane, this is amazing. Arcane is my favorite show, I think is incredible. Thanks for this awesome video
Viktor is not talking about himself when saying he wants to help the people.
He geniunely do what he does for the people, his personal character lore makes this pretty clear.
Granted Arcane is not Canon lore so it may differ but I doubt they would stray thst far from a characters original personality.
He just saw an opportunity to help himself along the way.
Theyre not mutually exclusive concepts.
Why you doin Viktor dirty like this? He 100% was NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT HELPING HIMSELF. He has multiple times said he wanted to help people. Even his league lore has him helping people. He's an extremist (mostly in league lore so far), yes, but there is major indication he has always only wanted to do good and even that line about them wanting to pursue greatness they failed to do good basically solidifies this as a fact in arcane itself. He 100% did not go back to the hexcore because of a promise of power. HE IS STILL DYING. From the flash backs we see that his leg has always given him trouble, so it seems to be a separate issue from his current illness. Mostly likely it is not his leg that his killing him but his lungs. Zaun Gray is an established league lore thing, it's the chemical clouds in Zaun that causes illness and potentially death. There's a robot champion named Orianna that suffered from Gray based Illness as a human and had to have all of her organs save her heart replaced to save her from it. Anyway. I think that it is very implied that he is still not doing well enough, that he is not suddenly cured after one touch of the hexcore and that is why he is trying again. Plus the way you worded things made it almost sound like he purposefully sacrificed the noncharacter of Sky (and I'm saying she's a noncharacter because they basically didn't write anything for her after showing her two times.) Also. You def should've said disabled. I'm aware that Viktor refers to himself with a certain word but. very shaky ground there.
Definitely had me super interested in looking through the lore of league.
Thank you so much for making this video. I like to have shows as background noises while I do something else and therefore I tend to miss a lot of things. I really enjoyed this show but I didn’t quite understand the story
I have never been a League of Legends fan. But Arcane was amazing. And then I started playing Legends of Runeterra. Which is amazing.
And that FIGHTING game...looks cool. And the Ruin King RPG looks great too.
I might be a LoL fan now... Or maybe just a Riot fan 😅😅
Also, I didn't expect episode 3 to get SO DARK
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19:05 I'm happy you caught on to that. So many people I've watched thought Viktor was motivated purely by selflessness, but he was actually hiding his illness while secretly trying to heal himself.
BTW, I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing. Having something personal at stake can make you more committed to a cause than someone who's detached from the situation (someone like Heimerdinger, for instance). Self-interest and a desire to help others aren't mutually exclusive, but since Arcane is a tragedy at its core, I'm guessing Viktor's attempt to heal himself will go horribly wrong.
Lovely video, I have few plot corrections though!
Vi didnt see Silco take away Jinx in act 3 on the bridge, she probably thought her sister is dead again
Viktor didnt willingly sacrifice Sky, the doors to his laboratory were closed with a key, he also still has his terminal lungs illness so he wanted to heal that, not just get more powerful because why not
and Jinx fired at Silco in the last scene in act 3 because Silco was going to fire at Vi, not Jinx, she IS his daughter, he would NEVER
I've been so excited waiting to see your video on this series ^_^
The 10 second edit with Jayce and Himerdinger is hilariously accurate to their back and forth throughout the whole show
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I don't think I can agree on some thoughts you have here on the characters/scenes but it's always fun to see people's interpretations and PoV! Sadly, a summary really can't show how completely amazing the show is! It's just downright incredible and I am amazed at the writers, animators and even the music team for it. They did wonderful with Arcane!
Also! Silco may be a bad person with a screwed up life and trying to teach Jinx his own experiences which didn't really worked clearly but he did learned to love Jinx as a daughter. I am quite certain on that! Also also--The Champions aren't that much fleshed out in the MOBA unless they get a special spotlight and etc.
Another really good video. Your commentary is so great. I love watching your videos so much. And the topics are perfect
As a long long long term league player who found your channel a couple years ago, I'm so happy to see you watching Arcane! I've loved the world of Runeterra for so long and I enjoy seeing non-league players finally getting to see the beautiful world of League.
This analysis was soooooo good. Subscribed 👍🏽
Your narration is so entretaining, you're super charismatic
Loved this video! You know what obscure show I just remembered from my childhood? Spider Riders! *What Happened to Spider Riders?* You can watch it for free on RUclips.
One of my favorite things about Arcane is the attention to detail, something I noticed my 2nd time watching that I didn't the 1st is if you look at Jayce's mothers fingers in the flashback where they're lost in the snow her fingers are black (from frostbite I'm guessing?) and then when she's shown again in the present day she has prosthetic fingers. It's just a really fun way to add something to a very minor character to make things feel more real.
oml I was rolling on the floor when you made the dota joke as a league player my self I liked and subbed on the spot as soon as I heard that.
8:30 "And we see the origin of the crystals"
Oh ho ho, if only people knew the TRUE origin of those crystals.
Duuuude I just finished Arcane, what perfect timing for uploading ty
i rlly hope they will do more series like this aaaa i love it
Also Jayce is unsure about what to do, His inconsistency is his character. Leadership was thrusted onto him when he just wanted to make magic. All his trying to do is stop all the fighting with the least amount of death. Which is Something anyone against War would try to do.
The show managed to shatter my heart multiple times and I loved every second of it
A phenomenal show - the writing was brilliant, the animation so beautiful- now to force all my friends to watch it!!!
8:48 My ears perked beneath my headphones when I heard Kevin Alejandro's voice. Even more reason to watch this once I finish Lucifer!
Arcane is one of my favorite things at the moment and I’m so glad you covered it
I know this isn’t very on topic, but I think a cool show to check out would be Freefonix. It takes place in futuristic world and people battle each other using music. It’s like if the battle at the end of Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks was a tv show. The plot of Freefonix is that a gothic band and their boss are trying to free a demon that will take over the world, so the titular band always tries to stop them. Just so you know, not all the English versions of episodes are online.
Just to show how amazing the storytelling is: Silko says "give him his meal" for the street thug that fought with vi's gang. He contolled their food supply and if they get to eat, possibly as a payment for their work. If thats not depressingly realistic of crime lords in the real world .
slight correction with silco adopting jinx, or maybe more of adding more (cause it could also be him being smart), but anyways, he looks at vander when powder says how she was left by her sister. he connects to powder cause he was also left by vander, one he considers like a brother.
The only thing I am unsure about is with Vi when she sees the monkey head. A bit later she seems a bit bewildered when Powder says it was her monkey bomb that worked. I feel maybe she knew in the back of her mind it was possible, but she may also have just realized that Powder was also caught in the blast also as she was certainly there.
I just wanted to let you know more about other Descendants stuff for you to react to! :
1. Wicked World seasons 1-2 (takes place between Descendants 1 and 2). It’s animated and has 2 different plots for both seasons.
2. Descendants: Under The Sea (takes place between Descendants 2 and 3). It’s live action, 10 mins long, and just shows more information about 2 characters.
3. Descendants: Audrey’s Royal Return (also takes place between Descendants 2 and 3). It’s also live action, about 7 mins and is a recap of everything plus more information about Audrey being absent in the second movie.
(Everything else I’m going to talk about happens after the third movie).
4. Descendants: Wicked woods, it’s an animation and a Halloween special.
5. Audrey’s Christmas Rewind, it’s just a song of Audrey and what she thinks of her actions in the third movie.
6. Descendants: The Royal Wedding. It’s a 20 min special of the Wedding between Mal and Ben. This also wraps up everything with a bow. (Originally it was supposed to be live action, but because of Covid, the actors not having enough time, and Camerons death (RIP), they decided to go with an animated special.
-There are other things like Planning for the Royal wedding shorts, and a Christmas holiday 4 min animation and stuff, but it doesn’t really tie in with everything. (Along with a 20 min special of Hades and random people from Disney just dancing to remixes of the songs from the Descendants movies “Descendants remix dance party”)
-Descendants 4 and 5 are confirmed but it will probably not be with the original cast, that’s all we know
One thing I found funny about Victor’s assistant dying, and this happens in a lot of other shows as well, the door isn’t locked!!!
brb watching the entire series again
I was hoping you’d talk about arcane!