News Explains: Israel Folau vs Rugby Australia

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @newscomauhq
    @newscomauhq  5 лет назад +1

    Crisis over Folau sacking widens. Read more here: www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/sponsors-in-line-of-fire-over-folau-sacking/news-story/fff0082ae8e7ea2756adb7e1f4173a2b

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      Sponsors are not in the line of fire. Crisis has not widened, it remains a contractual dispute.

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад +2

      @@adamoconnor2836
      You should understand what the implications are for the sponsors if found guilty of coercion.

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      @@godistruth3411 There are no implications because there is no fault. These are some smart people. They know what they are doing.

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад

      @@adamoconnor2836
      There not smart people, there blinded by rage and walk in darkness. Lies need more lies to keep the lie going; the truth always prevails.

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      @@godistruth3411 This is too much religious talk. It's needs a business approach. You guys need to take the emotion out of it. Best of Luck.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 5 лет назад +37

    So, in effect a corporation owns your speech 24/7. Just like the Soviet Union.
    He also treated everyone equally, he said we are all sinners. And he spoke of hope.
    Clearly Castle and Joyce have a motive of their own. No surprises there.

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +2

      Exactly at which point in this video did you hear that its about "speech"? Just curious

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +2

      @Ms Bliss so I'm a little confused.. you say you like the discrimination laws..and I agree. But then you don't want employers to sack someone who breaches it. If a fellow employee tells me that I'm going to hell I want my employer to protect me and sack them. So aren't you contradicting yourself?

    • @misterblobby5305
      @misterblobby5305 5 лет назад +1

      @Ms Bliss, yeah for sure, win win for the employers. Let`s not stop there Blissful, how about cut payrates and double the hours worked. So wearing a nose ring makes you deadwood........mmm righteeeo I can see your logic???? NOT!!!!!

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +2

      @@olomalutausili4464 "don't show your bother the right way"? Ok.. so you agree then that there's a right way and a wrong way to "show your bother". Well will you stand up against the "wrong way" then? Like Folaus extremists and hateful way. ? If you do then I stand with you to support the right way.

    • @swift4856
      @swift4856 5 лет назад +2

      How is he treating everyone equally. Israel Folau is denouncing homosexuals and saying nothing against heterosexuals. How is that not discrimination

  • @johnferreira1630
    @johnferreira1630 5 лет назад +45

    Amazing! The drunks never complaind, the thieves said nothing.........

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +5

      Because those are choices. Gay is not.. get it?

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад +8

      @@rawheat9
      There is a choice.
      Watch "Jesus heals hearts" on RUclips
      ruclips.net/video/hr0OBP9QUfQ/видео.html
      And many people.☝️☝️ have made that choice.

    • @facethefacts9014
      @facethefacts9014 5 лет назад +8

      @@rawheat9 a lot of people with alcoholism claim that it's genetical and they were born with that predisposition many a psychologist would support them on this. Furthermore it has been well documented that many people identifying as homosexual go through different sexual phases in their life, so it's very clear that not everyone that claims they are homosexual were born that way or will stay that way for the rest of their life.

    • @samuelataukafa8140
      @samuelataukafa8140 5 лет назад +6

      @@rawheat9 Gay is a choice, everyone is born into this world as a man or a female, thats how it was possible for your parents to have you into this world

    • @neddelley8766
      @neddelley8766 5 лет назад +1

      @@samuelataukafa8140 How you choose to live it however is nobody else's business.

  • @outragedaussie7057
    @outragedaussie7057 5 лет назад +37

    God bless him. Hope he takes them to the cleaners. !!!!.

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      God sacked him.

    • @sinnahj
      @sinnahj 5 лет назад +6

      @adam O'Connor God provided him with 2.5mil in 24hrs to fight for freedom of speech👍

    • @treesnseas3424
      @treesnseas3424 5 лет назад +2

      @@sinnahj
      God promoted him 😊

    • @thedon4967
      @thedon4967 2 месяца назад

      @@adamoconnor2836?? Still think so? 😂

  • @lawrenceseiuli5684
    @lawrenceseiuli5684 5 лет назад +17

    This is what Rugby Union Australia should have said from the beginning (Regardless if his popular or not, we don’t agree or support Folau’s personal view, he quote this Drunks, Homosexual, Adulterers, Liars, Fornicators, Thieves, Atheists n Idolaters, his entitle to his
    personal view, which has nothing to do with Rugby Australia, n leave it at that) That would of solve it, but no, Allan Joyce the real CEO of rugby only saw the word homosexual, forget all the other words, the fake media saw the word homosexual, n thought TV rateing, then milk it with headings like, anti-gay statement from Folau, or Folau preachers hate etc, they hammer it to trigger people, while Allan Joyce blackmails rugby union n they bent, so they sacked a guy who has no criminal record because little Allan Joyce got trigger.
    This is why the public is outrage, the bullying n the unfair dismissal. That's why Folau has so many Muslims, Gays, Atheist, Christians, Footballers supporting him financially, because they could see the hypocrisy n the bullying. People are taking up this fight personally, because it’s a bully tactic to anyone across our Nation saying, this is how will treat you if you dare disagree with homosexual or gender identity. It sets a standard to any Employer, Football clubs and Organazion, you can treat anyone like this if they don’t agree with homosexual or gender. People gave as a statement saying we will not be walked over, some of his supporters don't agree with what he said, but supports his freedom of speech like anyone else. It’s a bully tactic to silence people with a different opinion. They cannot handle anyone who disagrees with them, they will bully, harass, and stop at nothing to silence those who disagrees. Israel has the right to free speech, just like Waleed Aly of the project, he says things I personally think he should be sacked for, but he has the right to free speech. I call on all free speech supporters of Israel, take your business away from Qantas, Rugby Union Australia, Gofundme, ANZ bank n HCF insurance, give them what they deserve, n don't ever back down from this fight. Take it to court over n over again, n don't ever stop.
    If little Allan Joyce is all for gay rights and protection, then he should stop flying his planes to Countries that kills people for being Gay or being a Christian.

  • @stjosephwilliams
    @stjosephwilliams 5 лет назад +13

    This clip is utterly stupid, she has read parts of his contract that paints Him to be a villain.

    • @ghepharched1193
      @ghepharched1193 5 лет назад +2

      Reading out some BS she needs to go down aswell

    • @stjosephwilliams
      @stjosephwilliams 5 лет назад +1

      Naphtali LOKMVL I totally agree, she should go and find something she might be good at like TMZ bullshit

  • @maxwellgeary9632
    @maxwellgeary9632 5 лет назад +16

    As a Kiwi I find a prime Minister of my country taking issue over what she calls a roll model when she spoke in Arabic when that is not a recognized language of NZ and at the same time wore a Hijab again not a recognized national form of dress . She is after all supposed to be the representative and leading roll model for the NZ population

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад +4

      That's far more complex. What happened your country was an a deliberate attack of hatred of those of Islamic faith. She dressed that way as a mark of respect to the victims and those who were killed in the traumatic slaughter. So I get where you coming from but ultimately as a Leader respect has to shown and she was effected greatly by it as was the rest of your nation and the whole World because gun massacres aren't something you ever here about in a country like New Zealand.

    • @maxwellgeary9632
      @maxwellgeary9632 5 лет назад +4

      @@taliamason7986 Let's get this straight she is supposed to be a Kiwi not a Muslim as such she can show sympathy without depicting himself as a Muslim. It is not the first mass shooting we have had. Next the shooter was an Australian national not a Kiwi . When the Muslim radicals murdered Christians at Easter service she never said a word even though NZ is a majority Christian State. Where was the compassion then nowhere because it wasnt politically acceptable to the left. By her behaviour she showed herself for what she actually is a leftwing hack

    • @waswe4204
      @waswe4204 5 лет назад +2

      Vote her out.

  • @bruckseven5858
    @bruckseven5858 5 лет назад +8

    The country is not divided.It`s the media and a few powerful who magnify views of few people.
    Australians are beginning to ignore media and understand what`s at stake.

    • @treesnseas3424
      @treesnseas3424 5 лет назад

      @
      Christians are not under the Mosaic Law today!
      This means the verse in Leviticus is not relevant for today. This verse was not given to Israel Falou. Back then it was a pagan practice so it was forbidden by God.
      By the way, it's a serious sin to slander anyone.

    • @aussiecath
      @aussiecath 5 лет назад

      Brick my thoughts exactly. Australians aren’t divided. It is just the media trying to create that impression.

    • @aussiecath
      @aussiecath 5 лет назад

      Sorry I mean Bruck

  • @baymanaustralia
    @baymanaustralia 5 лет назад +4

    This is already incorrect. The code of conduct was not part of his contract and he never actually consented to it.

  • @rakeshhubert3031
    @rakeshhubert3031 5 лет назад +12

    Look even Gillian Triggs can see that defamed Israel Folau is being bullied and victimised because he is a practising Christian.

    • @rakeshhubert3031
      @rakeshhubert3031 5 лет назад +1

      @Anthony Butler Why do you deceive. Jesus taught hate the Sin not the sinner. Exactly what Israel Folau is advocating as a practising Christian.

    • @rakeshhubert3031
      @rakeshhubert3031 5 лет назад

      @Pizza Eater He definitely does not have an IQ like yours, you sound gay and a christophobic, a hater..

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад +1

      @Pizza Eater
      The truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.

    • @rakeshhubert3031
      @rakeshhubert3031 5 лет назад

      @Pizza Eater Go away Satan.

    • @hkl5686
      @hkl5686 5 лет назад +2

      @Pizza Eateryou keyboard warrior

  • @tboutros1
    @tboutros1 5 лет назад +15

    Izzy wont settle out of court. Take those rugby clowns all the way to the Casino's of atalantic city.

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад +2

      @Anthony Butler
      God is love and believing in Christ and repentence from sin is eternal life.
      1 Cor 6:9-10 Gal 5:19-21
      Warn every soul that is in danger. Leave none to deceive themselves. Call sin by its right name. Declare what God has said in regard to lying, stealing, idolatry, and every other evil.
      Every soul is precious to God, eternal future's are at stake.
      God bless

    • @facethefacts9014
      @facethefacts9014 5 лет назад

      @Anthony Butler now I settle down Anthony with your hate-filled filled speech, baseless comments and hypocrisy.

    • @simonhill1590
      @simonhill1590 5 лет назад +2

      @Anthony Butler - quote "And there is their thing call punctuation you might be interested in learning about..." unquote. Methinks you are the semi-literate simpleton, you jackass.

    • @treesnseas3424
      @treesnseas3424 5 лет назад

      @Anthony Butler
      "their thing?"
      And "semi literate" would have a hyphen.
      Check your English.

    • @treesnseas3424
      @treesnseas3424 5 лет назад

      @Neil Clissold
      So that's your view.

  • @johnnyjrotten59
    @johnnyjrotten59 5 лет назад +6

    A work contract should never take away your right to speak

    • @rrrkev
      @rrrkev 5 лет назад +1

      The law over rides a contract

    • @treesnseas3424
      @treesnseas3424 5 лет назад

      @
      Christians are not under the Mosaic Law.

  • @roncolwell
    @roncolwell 5 лет назад +21

    If Folau loses this case every Australian should be worried that the corporate bosses and the minions have total control!

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +5

      If Folau wins this case I will yell to everyone in my office that they are going to hell unless they convert to Islam, especially those that are vulnerable to a point that they kill themselves and then if I get fired I'll take my employer to court.

    • @roncolwell
      @roncolwell 5 лет назад

      @@rawheat9 Your mental condition has no bounds of stupidity!

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +3

      @@roncolwell And just like that you ran out of logical arguments. Hey how does it feel when you get schooled like that? Now next time be careful when you want to post irresponsible gibberish.

    • @roncolwell
      @roncolwell 5 лет назад

      @@rawheat9 IDIOT

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад

      @@roncolwell oh so that's how you feel.. like an IDIOT? Sorry to burst the bubble there but you should be grateful.

  • @Gavin-qh7li
    @Gavin-qh7li 5 лет назад +21

    I'm guessing it can go anyway because the law speaks another language.
    The loser's are going to be Rugby Aust, as soon as any sport goes political it is doomed.
    Its not a good look to sack someone for religious beliefs the day after Easter.
    Its not a good look to offer hush money to remove the post and shut up
    Its not a good look when Qantas is partners with a group who thinks Gay's should be throw off roof tops.

    • @Gavin-qh7li
      @Gavin-qh7li 5 лет назад

      @Anthony Butler Whatever DICKHEAD
      Address the facts I commented on and we will see who the one is gibbering.
      Go away Troll all you have is slander to defend your hypocrisy..

    • @reubs91
      @reubs91 5 лет назад +2

      Anthony Butler it’s actually completely correct

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      Easter is Catholic, The Bible is Catholic. Folau is not. God sacked him. Repent and become Catholic.

    • @meganwilliams2962
      @meganwilliams2962 5 лет назад

      @@adamoconnor2836 All Christian Churches observe Easter, not just Catholics.....

    • @simonhill1590
      @simonhill1590 5 лет назад +2

      @@meganwilliams2962 Ignore O'Connor. Just an idiot who trolls every thread

  • @erniewilms9176
    @erniewilms9176 5 лет назад +7

    So RA caused all this rukkus in the first place, is what I got from this video. Had they not impeded in his freedom of religion in the first place none of this would have blown out the way it did. Not only did they do it once but they did it twice, with a push from bully qantas. They than blamed it on Israel for breaking the contract, but from a christians point of view, what has he done wrong?

  • @sgntbilco
    @sgntbilco 5 лет назад +4

    I would let the courts decide not the media.

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад +1

      This is the only way forward. Well said.

  • @lj3529
    @lj3529 5 лет назад +2

    This has now been tested. A court in the UK ruled in favour of Felix Ngoles case. He posted the same thing as Folau four years ago and has now won his case.

    • @aussiecath
      @aussiecath 5 лет назад +2

      It was a Court of Appeal case so high level not just any court. That makes a big difference.

  • @stevehughes1510
    @stevehughes1510 5 лет назад +3

    Good lord I see Jacinda Ardern on this taking about responsibility ................it's about free speech.........that's the responsibility of all nations for their citizens......in the free world anyway.

  • @Playwithwill16
    @Playwithwill16 5 лет назад +6

    Yes New Zealand priminister .it comes with responsibility. Like not turn New Zealand in to Afghanistan.

    • @rrrkev
      @rrrkev 5 лет назад +4

      Nz prime minister is a communist

  • @rep3e4
    @rep3e4 5 лет назад +6

    Move to New Zealand, seriously I support Israel all the way. Good video

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +1

      I support the idea of him moving to NZ. One less preacher of hate OZ.

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад +2

      @@rawheat9
      It's a message of love

    • @alsfishing4940
      @alsfishing4940 5 лет назад +2

      NZ's pm Adern (leftard tart) does not support him. Sad.

    • @jailesani3399
      @jailesani3399 5 лет назад

      @@alsfishing4940 she's a lady what you expect mate. Izzy will be ok

  • @neddelley8766
    @neddelley8766 5 лет назад +5

    Leviticus 19:28 - ”You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you"

    • @whybolo9793
      @whybolo9793 5 лет назад +3

      Infact, that was directed only to the ancient isralites to not follow the practice of the cannanites who often tattooed their preferred god on their foreheads, and alot of these gods they did child sacrifices too. Its not to do with modern tattooing.

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад +1

      @@whybolo9793 Everything in the Old Testament was only ever indicated to the Israelites because they were God's favourite people and the only ones he ever cared for and protected throughout that whole stretch. That of course all changes very quickly when the New Testament was established and reached out to everyone instead of one whole race which by all accounts is racist.

    • @neddelley8766
      @neddelley8766 5 лет назад +3

      @@whybolo9793 Selecting which religious narratives apply and which don't puts it squarely in the hypocritical zealots range. Have a little look at Australia's harassment laws, they apply equally to all citizens but that didn't stop Falau from casting the first stone, did it? You want religion, go ahead, you want to force it down other peoples throats, wont happen, ever.
      61% of the country told you to keep it to yourselves and that's not going to change.

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад +2

      @@neddelley8766
      61% were indoctrinated into believing homosexuality and same sex marriage is not against the laws of nature and a normal lifestyle.

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад

      @Luke Farrugia
      True, regardless of whether someone believes in God, same sex unions are against the laws of nature.
      And Christians do sin and when we do we confess and repent.
      1 John 1:9

  • @williemrebekahmaclutchie-e7654
    @williemrebekahmaclutchie-e7654 5 лет назад +6

    Folks we are under threat of freedoms given by God even non religous people realise hey we are under threat as well if my boss bullies me at work i got no say ok.

  • @donaldelley2802
    @donaldelley2802 5 лет назад +1

    Rugby Australia will be paying out $10 million plus

  • @AlbertAlbert-je3fs
    @AlbertAlbert-je3fs 5 лет назад

    The only sensible news commentary I've ever watched.
    Fair, and sensible.

    • @aussiecath
      @aussiecath 5 лет назад

      I agree the tone was more professional al than many reports but it seemed like a piss poor legal analysis.
      On the face of it RA breached the code of conduct as it requires allowing people to participate irrespective of characteristics like religion. In this case they sacked a player. That hardly lets him participate.
      The prediction about the argument RA will try on is probably correct but making it sound like a definite winner doesn’t ring true. Given the recent high level Ngole decision where it was argued Ngole breached a code that way in respect of a comment specifically about homosexuals and given that argument crashed and burned I would have thought that the better view is that argument for Folau breaching the code will fail.
      Likewise wondering if s772 if the Fair Work Act extends that far seems to be a mischaracterisation. If it doesn’t extend to quoting a religious scripture from the Christian Bible on your or Instagram in your own time than it would be a meaningless protection.

  • @Itag0d
    @Itag0d 5 лет назад +8

    Take them to the Bank Izzy they went to far

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад +1

      @Pizza Eater
      KJV John 3
      16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
      17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
      18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
      19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
      20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
      21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад

      @Pizza Eater
      The only One that can truly satisfy the human heart is the One who made it.
      Watch "Jesus heals hearts" on RUclips
      ruclips.net/video/hr0OBP9QUfQ/видео.html

    • @facethefacts9014
      @facethefacts9014 5 лет назад +3

      @Anthony Butler I think most people are well aware of the tactics of the loony left, they use the term hater to intimidate others that they have political differences with, when all along they are the haters themselves. It's great to see that everyday Australians are waking up to the leftists hypocritical tactics and slowly rejecting their Orwellian / Marxists ideologies.

    • @Itag0d
      @Itag0d 5 лет назад +2

      @Anthony Butler Preaching the Truth no hate he wants to save

    • @simonhill1590
      @simonhill1590 5 лет назад +2

      @Anthony Butler - How is it hate speech? Where is the hatred or loathing? You simply don't know what you're talking about. Go back to your flower arranging.

  • @dennisevans7183
    @dennisevans7183 5 лет назад +11

    Very bias video. He never signed nor stated we would not speak/post about his religious views. There was a generic media clause in his contract re-Social Media. It is illegal in Australia to put such restrictions on freedom to express religious belief in an employment contract. I don't agree with his post but I do believe in his right to this freedom of Religious Speech.

    • @dennisevans7183
      @dennisevans7183 5 лет назад +1

      Jacqueline Stuart I respect your opinion

    • @nicktepuni3916
      @nicktepuni3916 5 лет назад

      All rugby players, amatuer and pro are bound by the code of conduct.

    • @dennisevans7183
      @dennisevans7183 5 лет назад +2

      Nick Te Puni a code of conduct, not beaching the law by removing a persons freedom for religion and free speech

    • @nicktepuni3916
      @nicktepuni3916 5 лет назад

      Breaching your code of conduct is breaking employment conditions, which by law can be grounds for termination if serious.

    • @dennisevans7183
      @dennisevans7183 5 лет назад +1

      Nick Te Puni but an employment contact can not include conditions that beach a persons freedom of religious beliefs. That is illegal and as I stated in my original post, I do NOT agree with his views but do respect his rights to view and express his religious views. The same as I respect your right to your views on this subject. If these rights to freedom of religious beliefs and freedom of speech are removed then discourse such as this would be band. What a world we would be in then! People need to stop taking offence at everything and if they disagree then don’t listen, read or watch the commentary. If I come across a post I may be offended, I just move on to the next post etc. I don’t let these posts define me. Life is too short

  • @rawheat9
    @rawheat9 5 лет назад +8

    So this is Fiction vs Non Fiction. A contract which is a verified and agreed document vs a Fairy tale book

    • @MrJoey1971
      @MrJoey1971 5 лет назад +4

      It is rather authoritarian to want to destroy a person's life over something people just consider a fairy tale.

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +4

      @@MrJoey1971 by destroying someone's life did you mean denigrating them as second class citizens that they feel like killing themselves (hint; check suicide rates in Gay community)? Or ... asking someone not to be hateful twice and then letting them go when they wouldn't get off their high horse? How is not giving someone the right to belittle a whole community is destroying someone's life? How is having fanatical Christians giving you millions destroying someone's life?

    • @jailesani3399
      @jailesani3399 5 лет назад +1

      @@rawheat9 it's up to the stupid parents..make sure you raise kids the right way not that hard to do lol then they will identify with themselves better like I'm a girl I act like a girl I'm a boy I act like a boy.. I respect my parents.. I get good out of my life I have crap parents well I'm turning against them and so on..lol good day everyone👊

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      @@jailesani3399 Dude, it's 2019. Can't believe your line of thinking. What are you 85?

    • @jailesani3399
      @jailesani3399 5 лет назад +1

      @@adamoconnor2836 farrrrrrrrrr.... Q

  • @godistruth3411
    @godistruth3411 5 лет назад +2

    Isreal Filou was fired from playing rugby and his $4 million contract was terminated after he posted a Bible verse (1 Cor 6:9) on his own social media page.
    Because the verse included homosexuals, it was deemed homophobic and hate speech. He is now taking Australia Rugby to court to fight for freedom of speech and freedom of religion and many Australians see this as a landmark case that will decide the future of religious freedom in Australia.

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад

      He doesn't own Twitter so no it's not private. You might wanna try looking up the very meaning of the words SOCIAL and MEDIA.

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад

      By the way I do agree God is Truth.. but i also believe God is not a hater. Peace

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад

      @@rawheat9
      You're right God is not a hater, God is love. And God offers eternal life to those who believe and repent.
      KJV 2 John
      9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
      10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God-speed:
      11 for he that biddeth him God-speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
      We are authorized to hold in the same estimation as did the beloved disciple those who claim to abide in Christ while living in transgression of God's law. There exist in these last days evils similar to those that threatened the prosperity of the early church; and the teachings of the apostle John on these points should be carefully heeded. "You must have charity," is the cry heard everywhere, especially from those who profess sanctification. But true charity is too pure to cover an unconfessed sin. While we are to love the souls for whom Christ died, we are to make no compromise with evil. We are not to unite with the rebellious and call this charity. God requires His people in this age of the world to stand for the truth as unflinchingly as did John in opposition to soul-destroying errors.
      1 Cor 6:9-10 Gal 5:19-21
      Warn every soul that is in danger. Leave none to deceive themselves. Call sin by its right name. Declare what God has said in regard to lying, stealing, idolatry, and every other evil.
      God bless

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад

      truth yeah that's just gibberish

    • @godistruth3411
      @godistruth3411 5 лет назад

      @@rawheat9
      What's your issue with people who believe in heaven?

  • @christiangerhardt2408
    @christiangerhardt2408 5 лет назад +6

    It IS simple the Bible instructed him. He believes in the Bible, a book that does not preach violence like the Quran. Sure violence was portrayed in the old Testament but the new Testament is more important. Gospel should be proclaimed with our the sword. You on the other hand do not believe in the Bible. Why so offended if it is not something you believe in? As Israel quoted what does it benefit man if he gains the whole world, but loses his sole. It is simple there is the Word and then there is the world. Make that decision.

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад +3

      Never in the Bible does it state please go around and tell various types of non believers to repent otherwise you will go to hell. That's referred to as judgement which guess what the scriptures state very clearly and famously thou shalt not judge or you will be judged and it will be measured to you again from Matthew 7:2 What is Mr Folau doing. Judging by means of the definition. Which therefore means he is going against the word itself and his beliefs which makes him a hypocrite and according to the scriptures doesn't guarantee him a place in heaven. Speaking of which. Something a lot of Christians hilariously do not know because they don't read their bible properly, is even the act of believing and repenting isn't a guaranteed gateway to Heaven as Revelations (last book of the bible) points out when the 'lambs book of life' is mentioned.

    • @christiangerhardt2408
      @christiangerhardt2408 5 лет назад +3

      @@taliamason7986 So.... have you every heard of the great commission? and a follow up question to that is if Jesus commanded the disciples to preach about what He taught them does that exclude the amount of times He spoke and described hell? (In fact He spoke more about Hell than heaven and more about hell than any other individual in the Bible), and to repent?
      On the judge not lest yeah be judged verse, it is known as the most misunderstood verse in the Bible. It is not about judging, but the way you judge other. The mere fact that you are judging mister Folau on his so called judgement is judgement in itself.

    • @christiangerhardt2408
      @christiangerhardt2408 5 лет назад +1

      @@taliamason7986 for your interest I am copying you a very good article on the matter by one of the top theological schools in america www.desiringgod.org/articles/judge-not I hope that you enjoy it.

    • @pj8uch
      @pj8uch 5 лет назад +3

      @@taliamason7986
      You do not know the Bible.
      Jesus came and told his disciples, “I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
      Matthew 28:18‭-‬19
      Israel Folau is being a light in the darkness, he is obeying Jesus.
      About judging in Matthew 7: 2. Read the chapter in context. In matt 7: 5 it says to not be a hypocrite, so then you can judge correctly and help others out.
      Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
      John 7:24
      - Jesus Christ
      God bless you!

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад +1

      @@christiangerhardt2408 Please look up the definition of judging in the dictionary because you quite clearly do not comprehend it.
      You are making a baseless assumption on a clear piece of text. You cannot make any assumptions on historic pieces like that when its clear in black in white. If the text itself stated as you said then I would be inclined to agree with you. But it doesn't. So all you are doing is twisting the exactness of a clear of piece of text either for your benefit or because you chose to translate it that way. Either way it doesn't work like that.
      Preaching by definition doesn't involve threatening. Mr Folau's Facebook post put up a list of types of people and their lifestyles that are against the word and then down the bottom of the page it said Hell Awaits You followed by Repent and Only Jesus Save. That's basically saying repent or else you will go to hell. Never in the bible does it say go around the World and scare the shit out of non believers by telling them they will go to hell if they don't repent. That isn't a Christian's job. Their job is go around and encourage (that been the key word) as many non believers as they can that Jesus is the way,the truth and the life. Is Mr Folau encouraging all the people he targeted to come before God and repent. Heck no. All he is doing is deliberately targeting and attacking them. Real Christians who actually read the bible properly and practise their faith the way it is supposed to be practised don't do what Mr Folau does hence why a bunch of properLeaders have come out in recent weeks to renounce his false claim.
      Jesus welcomed anybody and everybody with open arms and loved them "unconditionally" (that also been the key word". Even one of his own disciples who was well known to be a homosexual was welcomed with open arms and loved unconditionally. How do you not understand this at all. Jesus told everyone to follow his example and to love everyone no matter who they were and what they do/did with all their heart as he did. Why do think forgiveness in this the most core aspect of the Christian faith. Again Jesus said "forgive 70 times 7" also from the book of Matthew.

  • @theplowman_11
    @theplowman_11 5 лет назад +10

    Why can’t you say concerning drunks along with others? You went straight to gays

    • @tavoiaiono7885
      @tavoiaiono7885 5 лет назад

      @Swayzetrain Bubbles I know, you gotta be seriously suffering from 3 degree burns to your frontal lope to believe that one. Idiots!!! And my father was a minister of a Presbyterian Church too....fucking idiot!!!

    • @theplowman_11
      @theplowman_11 5 лет назад +3

      Tavoi Aiono you sound intelligent.

    • @theplowman_11
      @theplowman_11 5 лет назад +2

      Swayzetrain Bubbles unless you do some history you will find that no serious historian or scholar whether secular or not would deny the existence of Jesus. So blabber on with your mockery but go do some history so we don’t laugh at your stupidity. 1st century Roman historians like tasitus, flavius Josephus all talk about Jesus. Not even in a good manner but talk about him. Do some history please. You’re just speaking hot air which is only amusing to those that do. Facts don’t have feelings

    • @tavoiaiono7885
      @tavoiaiono7885 5 лет назад

      @@theplowman_11 yes enough to know religion was made to control people. if you too would like some intellect, I will be more than happy to enlightened you and wake you from your sleep.

    • @theplowman_11
      @theplowman_11 5 лет назад +1

      Tavoi Aiono show us the facts? 😊, I will happily show you how all your claims can easily be refuted. Or are you just talking rubbish again like you did swearing like a mad woman?

  • @wittohasago
    @wittohasago 5 лет назад

    Freedom of speech

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад

      Doesn't exist anywhere but the United States. Like most nations we have something similar but its not the same.

  • @delawarecop
    @delawarecop 5 лет назад +3

    Yes, RESPONSIBILITY does come with popularity, and Israel Folau felt as though it was HIS RESPONSIBILITY to act in LOVE and warn his followers that IMMORAL activity will be met with the WRATH OF GOD - when God judges them and refuses them entry into His eternal kingdom of righteousness.
    Now the Alcoholics, Aldulterers, Thieves, Liars, Drug Addicts, etc... didn't protest any of Israels comments, only the LGBTIQ community reacted to this biblical truth that is over 2000 years old. So the issue clearly exists only in the minds of those who assume that because Government legalizes their sexual preference, that the Government somehow condones their IMMORALITY. The Government legalizes brothels and has registered sex workers, but it doesn't condone the IMMORALITY of prostitution, it's merely regulating the practice to protect the Tax paying citizens. The atheists want separation of church and State, but then wrongly assume that what the State condones is acceptable MORAL practice. Now we have people lobbying for the age of consent to be reduced so that the Pedophiles can LEGALLY practice their sexual perversions upon our children, many of these lobbyists are members of the LGBTIQ community.
    In reality, the LGBTIQ community deny reality when they assert that their sexuality is different to that determined by science. Science tells us that if your DNA has a Y chromosome, then you are MALE, and if your DNA lacks a Y Chromosome then you are a FEMALE. This is REALITY and anyone who denies REALITY is DELUSIONAL. Hence those of the LGBTIQ community are currently suffering a LUST invoked SELF-DELUSION and are not fit to judge anyone who is taking the MORAL HIGH GROUND - like the Folau's.

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад

      You clearly have no idea what love is. What Mr Folau put on Facebook was far any kind of love. It was fear. Plain and simple fear. If it was truly through love, the post wouldn't be so condescending in the first place. Instead it would be a lot more calm in tone.
      You do know the difference between sex and gender. They aren't the same. Yes you are absolutely correct about Transgender people still been the sex they are. Only problem is it has nothing to do with sex to begin with. It's about gender which by definition is a social construct. So people that are transgender simple live their lives as the opposite gender to that of how society see them. Gender is all about social norms such as gender specific clothes, behavior, roles that society has set in motion for years. Sex is obviously the physical anatomy of having a penis or vagina. The only time sex comes into the equation is if and when a Transgender person choses to undergo sex reassignment surgery which most don't anyway.
      Read Revelations. It talks about even believers who repent still have no guarantees of entering the gates of heaven. According to the last book it's all about whether or not your name enters the lambs book of life. Which essentially is the list of names that will spend eternal life with God while those that don't get into it will go to the Hell which in turn come judgment day God will banish to the lake or fire.

    •  5 лет назад +1

      Why does 'Religion' get away with discrimination. He broke the code of conduct and was a given a warning. Leviticus @, which says,”You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.” Folau is a hypocrite and so are you

    • @delawarecop
      @delawarecop 5 лет назад +1

      Matt M - Religion isn't discriminating you imbecile, it's warning people to modify their IMMORAL behaviour. All humans have sinned, some ignorantly, some willfully, but if one does not repent of their sins, then there is no hope of eternal life. That's the entire message. If you have convinced your conscience that God doesn't exist, then you can ignore the warning, but you only have yourself to blame if your choice turns out to be incorrect.
      Ezekiel 3:17“Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel. Whenever you hear a word from My mouth, give them a warning from Me. 18 If I say to the wicked man, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him or speak out to warn him from his wicked way to save his life, that wicked man will die in his iniquity, and I will hold you responsible for his blood. 19 But if you warn a wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness and his wicked way, he will die in his iniquity, but you will have saved yourself.…
      That excerpt is Christianity 101, that is HIS RELIGION, and no mans code of anything can prevent Israel Folau from practicing his religion - unless of course you are suggesting that we adopt the Human Rights position of Communist China, or Stalin's Communism, or North Korea's Human Rights Policy? There is no middle road child, you either have complete freedom of speech or nothing at all. Sticks and Stones....but names....
      Seriously, grow a set and man up!

    • @delawarecop
      @delawarecop 5 лет назад +1

      Talia Mason - "Read Revelations. It talks about even believers who repent still have no guarantees of entering the gates of heaven."
      LOL, you are hilarious child. Instead of paraphrasing with your added ignorance, how about quoting the actual text so that we can read it for ourselves without your lame attempt at privately interpretation?
      " It's about gender which by definition is a social construct."
      LOL - no child, it's all about their DNA - MALE or FEMALE. Gender self-identity that differs from SCIENTIFIC REALITY is called a DELUSION!

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад

      @@delawarecop Look up the definition of gender and sex in the dictionary. They both have different definitions.

  • @swift4856
    @swift4856 5 лет назад +2

    So practicing your religion means you can discriminate against innocent people by putting them in the same sentence as people who are compulsive liars, people who steal from others and people who have drinking problems without any cause what so ever. Also Israel Folau is accusing Gay people of choosing to be gay when he knows it was never a choice for him to be heterosexual.

  • @kevint7649
    @kevint7649 4 года назад

    God bless Folau

  • @ilimelekidelasau1943
    @ilimelekidelasau1943 5 лет назад

    No wonder tye wallabies have not won a silverware for years now. God bless u Folau

  • @Mr78nozza
    @Mr78nozza 5 лет назад +2

    Find out if Folau post was offense or loving

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      I just thought it was dumb. He clearly has minimal education.

  • @petermoygannon698
    @petermoygannon698 5 лет назад

    I'm with israel folau like every comment on utube

  • @josephgaribaldi4340
    @josephgaribaldi4340 5 лет назад +4

    He Folau, like all of us, have a right to our thoughts and beliefs without the totalitarianism of the sanctimonious self-serving minority "PC" crowd...
    we really are the majority and must start using that to stand up for the rights of all rather than the bullying authoritarian self-serving of the "PC" few.
    These stats although from the US are generally reflective of most western nations
    What is really strange about the current situation is the imbalance between the reality and the perception:
    A perpetrated and perpetuated image by organised groups which serves only certain minorities ...
    when in fact the reverse is more the case.
    The distrubution of people self defining their religious belief 2019 in the US
    Protestantism (48.9%)
    Roman Catholicism (23.0%)
    Mormonism (1.8%)
    Judaism (2.1%)
    Other non-Christian religion (2.5%)
    Islam (0.8%)
    No response given/Unknown (2.7%)
    No religion (18.2%)
    Just to keep things in perspective 79.1% of the population have and follow spiritual beliefs, so why and how and for who's benefit do these false perceptions persist?
    who are the particular groups involved?
    Their adgenda was to infiltrate and dominate the:
    Schools,
    Academia,
    Entertainment,
    Media,
    Social Media,
    and emerging communication technologies.
    Government institutions,
    The law...
    There is no choice but to contest and reclaim these areas of influence! for open debate, free speech and religious expression.
    Challenge everything! We are the majority ORGANISE to PROTECT your RIGHTS!
    If they believe that they can take your livelihood away for your rightful beliefs now, what do you think they'll feel encouraged to do later... ?
    Watch out for the self-righteous, the weak and those in denial!

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад

      I agree we are the majority.. but a large number of us are also peace loving Christians. There's a minority of extremist evangelicals amongst us that sadly preach hate.

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад

      Although the United States. You just screwed up there big time. The United States has freedom of speech so issues such as these are not really an issue over there. We like most other nations on the other hand do not have it. We have something similar but its not the same.

  • @pj8uch
    @pj8uch 5 лет назад +2

    Jesus Christ is the Way the Truth and The Life!
    Repent of your sinful ways, and turn to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins!
    We all will die, we dont know when, so don't put it off trust in Jesus and repent!

    • @rawheat9
      @rawheat9 5 лет назад +1

      Sounds like a threat. Jesus preached Love not Fear

    • @pj8uch
      @pj8uch 5 лет назад

      @@rawheat9
      “Don’t be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
      - Jesus Christ
      (Mat 10: 28 )
      “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
      John 3:16
      This is love, providing a way out.
      We have separated ourselves from God by our sins. Jesus made a new way, the old covenant couldnt do through lambs and bulls blood. He paid it all with His own blood.
      So we can right standing with Him when we face Him on judgement day.
      Those who accept Him will be counted as righteous,( theyll be pardoned for their sins because Christ paid for it on the cross).
      150,000 people die everyday acrss the world! Thats scary to think about.
      1 full MCG and a half of people die each day...
      None of them woke up in the morning amd new it would be their last day, so i urge you to trust in Jesus! He is love, but because He is love, He must also hate sin.
      Therefore no sinners will inherit the kingdom of God.
      God bless you

    • @taliamason7986
      @taliamason7986 5 лет назад

      @@rawheat9 Finally someone gets it

    • @tavoiaiono7885
      @tavoiaiono7885 5 лет назад

      Fuck Jesus. Jesus licks dogs asholes and likes god and the Pope to fuck his ashole at the same time.

    • @artymcfly8694
      @artymcfly8694 4 года назад

      @@tavoiaiono7885 Your hatred towards your creator is futile.

  • @Matt-1126
    @Matt-1126 5 лет назад

    Enough with clouding people's judgement , saying just enough with plausible deniability in order to grey areas that are clearly right and wrong to cloud judgement is a long standing practice of political correctness .
    The silent majority will not be silent to a point of extinction, THIS is WRONG what they are doing to him and everyone knows it.

  • @johnnyjrotten59
    @johnnyjrotten59 5 лет назад

    never Heard of this Israel Falou til this happened...

  • @Auroch61
    @Auroch61 5 лет назад

    Folau's fanatic take on sins includes most Christians who dont follow the same code as his families church. If your Catholic, your a sinner also according to his zealot father.... Folau is getting support from some of the same people he considers will go to hell. What a fucked up scenario.!!

  • @lesfield7504
    @lesfield7504 5 лет назад +2

    Either his contract with RBA is what he wants. Or his contract with Jesus. He should get Jesus to pay a visit as a witness. That would be nice.🔥😱👹⚡️🎃

  • @forestmichael7050
    @forestmichael7050 3 года назад

    He did nothing wrong

  • @Gertzy41
    @Gertzy41 3 года назад

    Make it a condition for folou before signing nrl that he has to attend the Mardi gra!😁😁😁😁

  • @sidknee4975
    @sidknee4975 5 лет назад

    So according to Folau I can wear a hijab to work.

    • @kattherinaolymbios9850
      @kattherinaolymbios9850 5 лет назад

      If it isn't a crime why not.!!! If whatever was said didn't physically harm someone why are they sacking him.? People's feeling get hurt everyday, my feelings were hurt when Queensland lost to NSW last night, along with hundreds of thousands of people who support Queensland, so should NRL strip NSW of their win.? NO.!!! Grow the fuck up. Everybody knows that the bible does not support homosexual lifestyle. And you know what happens when we sin.? We either repent or we go to hell, that goes for hardcore Christians too.

    • @sidknee4975
      @sidknee4975 5 лет назад

      @@kattherinaolymbios9850 I could call my boss a cock sucking wanker in front of his family and I assure you he'd sack me on the spot.

  • @DieFlabbergast
    @DieFlabbergast 5 лет назад

    Now, Ms Burke, do this video again without all the creaky voice (vocal fry): it is truly painful to listen to. And, no, it doesn't make you sound more mature or more intelligent: quite the contrary, in fact.

  • @rrrkev
    @rrrkev 5 лет назад +2

    Jacinda adern ?? Really ? Omg she's a joke

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      She is very highly respected. Great Woman.

    • @rrrkev
      @rrrkev 5 лет назад +2

      @@adamoconnor2836 only by people that are easily fooled. People are starting to see through her false body language and fence sitting .

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      @@rrrkev Oh I see. So I am a poor dumb sap but you can the light for the rest of us? It is this idiotic lala land crap that prevents you from being taken seriously. Until Christians can have a conversation without complete bias they will never get anywhere. It's time you people grew up.

    • @rrrkev
      @rrrkev 5 лет назад

      @@adamoconnor2836 lol funny

    • @adamoconnor2836
      @adamoconnor2836 5 лет назад

      @@rrrkev You know what else is funny? Israels chance of success. :)

  • @sidknee4975
    @sidknee4975 5 лет назад

    Just another money hungry Christian he is.

  • @tanielaloketi3538
    @tanielaloketi3538 5 лет назад

    Well for Quantas is braking the law for fireing Izzy straight up f ok follow the others sponsor if they are with Quantas all Izzy had to do is prove it but Raelengorim castle already prove it now fire your self Raelene

  • @sonofyahweh8
    @sonofyahweh8 5 лет назад

    The word' hell' is nowhere found in the scripture.
    The WORD in the scripture is :" Gehenna".
    Gehenna was the Jerusalem rubbish dump.
    In Yahshua's day they had perfect understanding of what Yahshua was saying.
    In Yahshua's day the sinners were NEVER buried, The sinners were cast over the wall into Gehenna, Where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.
    Gehenna was kept burning 24/ 7.
    Everything that was cast into Gehenna was turned to ASHES.
    Rev. 20: 14- 15 is Gehenna. The lake of Fire is in the exact SAME place as Gehenna was 2,000 years ago. Outside the walls of Jerusalem. The Kidron valley.
    On The LAST day all the sinners will be cast into Gehenna ( The Lake of fire ) and will be turned to ASHES. This is LOVE. 1 John 4: 7- 8.
    The Christians CHANGED the words in the scripture. This alone shows that the Christians are NOT from Yahweh.
    The Christians LIE. This shows that the Christians are liars and are of their father the devil.
    So it is written.
    To believe in a place called 'hell' you have to reject all these plain and simple scriptures written for those who will become as little children.
    I say Again:" Yahweh is LOVE." 1 John 4; 7- 8.
    Only a sadistic , satanic, demonic god would have a place of torment called ' hell.'
    The christian god is a sadistic, satanic, demonic god. Yahweh is LOVE.
    Yahweh will show more LOVE on Judgement day than any day since creation when He casts all the sinners into the Lake of fire and they are turned to ASHES. Rev. 20: 7- 15.
    Body, soul, spirit and breath to ASHES instantly. This is LOVE.
    HELL " does not exist, HELL has never existed and HELL will never exist.
    Yahweh is LOVE. 1 John 4: 7- 8.
    On the LAST day Yahweh will cast all the sinners into the LAKE of Fire and the sinners will be turned to ASHES instantly, NO Pain, NO suffering, OUT of existence instantly. This is LOVE. Rev. 20: 7- 15.
    John 6: 39, 40, 44, 53 and 54. The last day. There are NO days after the LAST DAY.
    The fate of Satan is clearly described in the scripture.
    Yahweh WILL bring a FIRE from the midst of Satan and Yahweh's FIRE will DEVOUR Satan and turn Satan to ASHES and Satan will be NO MORE FOREVER. Ezekiel 28: 18- 19.
    This is Perfect Justice with perfect LOVE.
    ALL who sin will be turned to ASHES on the LAST Day and will be NO MORE FOREVER.
    So says Yahweh.
    Rom. 11: 11- 33. Yahweh's ONLY WAY to salvation.
    May THE Creator Yahweh give you your hearts desire.
    Heb. 12: 14.
    bless you

  • @lesfield7504
    @lesfield7504 5 лет назад

    He left out a few people like pedophiles and Priest,and Preacher which can be one in the same.Plus Jesus said the Kingdom of heaven is within you. Not sitting on wet clouds getting spiritual haemorrhoids.🔥🎃👹

    • @williemrebekahmaclutchie-e7654
      @williemrebekahmaclutchie-e7654 5 лет назад

      Ok,there was program in US the paedos are saying we have a rights as well they trying to line up with lgbt listen if babies can be killed in or outside the mothers vagina and made law like in new york laws are getting passed then paedos will get a soap box to debate as far as im concerned they should be shot ok.

  • @OzTrump
    @OzTrump 5 лет назад

    Alan Joyce needs to be sacked. Hope Folau takes Rugby Australia to the cleaners!!

    •  5 лет назад +1

      He broke the code of conduct and was a given a warning. Leviticus 19:28, which says,”You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.” Folau is a hypocrite and so are you