this my favorite scene it’s the turning point for the hand maids . where the predator becomes the prey. they realize after being slaves for so long living in what seemed like eternal darkness that in that darkness there is a flicker of light. That desire for freedom to tread like humans to be treated as equals to give their children a future so they may prosper and be happy to smile instead of living in fear
still the commander stupid name only thing I have to gripe about. But he really was living in a world of his own that and was terrible at his job. literally he ended up in Canada without realizing it and was arrested.
Amazing scene! Such chilling dialogue. June and Esther's facial expressions are on point and the tone June uses borders on insanity, which is understandable when you know what horrors she and her fellows handmaidens have been subjected to.
This is the opposite of todays culture. Today if a woman gets pregnant from rape, the innocent unborn child gets the death penalty, and the rapist goes free. Rapists love abortions. It gets them off the hook. Apparently this is what pro-choicers prefer today.
I have a feeling this will backfire massively, if we see more of Esther. She's a child. What she needed her was someone to comfort her and take care of her. Instead, June thrust the responsibility of "executing justice" onto her. Now, the first time Esther felt any agency in years is when she brutally killed someone. Empowerment through violence. And then afterwards June tells her she loves her - so she'll also tie that memory of killing someone to receiving affection and appreciation. That's how child soldiers are made. It's absolutely heartbreaking to watch, but really well written and acted. I love this show :)
Yeah it’s both rewarding to see this happen but obviously traumatic for Esther. June doing it would have been less traumatic, and been more like justice (Mayday are the “good guys” who enact true justice and help/defend ppl suffering in Gilead). But now Esther has made a very irreversible step into being part of Mayday and becoming a child soldier. And we know that that’s not going to be very good for her in the long run.
June is actually a piece of shit. That character should have died seasons ago. She is selfish and arrogant. The guard got what he deserved but making Esther do it was wrong. June should have done it. She’s trying to make Esther like her..that’s some Aunt shit right there.
I love how the first offense she listed was that he betrayed his own country. I feel this show often misses that angle focusing on the sexual violence that is commited, which is completely understandable. But I love that June remembers that not only are they rapists and abusers…but fucking traitors too!
@@crunch9876 you are traitors and limiting the amount of weapons is not treason whether you think it is or not, the fact is that those who committed the coup attempt on Jan 6th ARE TRAITORS and nothing you say or do to blame Democrats for will justify real treason.
I know this may seem crazy to us in a civilized nation, but what June and the ladies did here was honestly necessary for their situation. When tyranny is law, revolution is order
@@garyjohnson4778 It's the line of someone who understands the situation. They're opressed under a fascist regime... What can they do but spark a revolution through violence? Eye for an eye.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." Shit, that scene was one of the most intense thing in this show. When June said "Good girl, make me proud" I had Aunt Lydia's vibe in a twisted haunting way. Her character development is so well written. You are rooting for her but at the same time she scares the sh*t out of you like in this scene when she is ruthless in a dark complex way.
the knife was a really nice visual metaphor for this episode. first, june disarms esther of it by empathizing with her, but then, here, she gives it back. now everything esther does against gilead, june has facilitated, and the dialogue here reflects that very nicely. particularly the excitement when she repeats that one line, “you were right”.
I agree. Definitely gave me Aunt Lydia vibes. Especially when she said “Girls” and when was talking to the other Hand Maids. June seems so insane in this moment but she’s in the most sanest state of mind. This showed how much Gilead has changed june. I do wish Esther and June have a reunion(or just more screen time together) even though it’s unlikely I think Esther really looked up to june and there relationship had just really started to develop.
@Eva no, no, i disagree. esther sincerely wanted to kill, and i think that’s where the problem lies. she told esther to give in to her anger against gilead. she encouraged her to not think about the consequences and give in to her anger. but this was already something that esther wanted to do. i think it’s more like june, by indulging esther, has created in her a killer. esther knows how to kill. she believes now that she is justified in doing so. i think that’s going to become a problem for gilead, and then it’ll become a problem for june.
I mean, she acts like how she knows a Wife has to act. But you can tell she’s very much a rebellious and traumatized teenager who takes whatever power she can (over other women, always insisting it’s “her house”). Serena is a narcissist on another level.
What about experimenting on rapists and murderers and human traffickers as well as KKK members instead of innocent animals though? Find a cure for Ebola ,Alzheimer's or cancer that way.
I wonder what will happen to her now she has been found out helping Mayday. If she is fertile they might make her a handmaid, if not probably send her to the colonies.
Did no one noticed June was using Lydia's manipulation tactic to kill by amping everyone up and whispering in Esther's ear like a devil on her shoulder. June is manipulating Esther like she does with everyone when she has them in her grip they usually always died. When Esther went to lay with her you can see the evil look in June's eyes like " 😏 I got you where I want you and need you"
@@paigeturner2799 No she was acting like Lydia she was whispering in Esther's ear (Like a devil on your shoulder) if you watch and listen to Lydia that's how she manipulates them like puppets to do evil..killing a rapist isn't evil but Esther is young she will forever remember what she had done and maybe later regret or cant live with it or she will be fine and feel liberated which is the case I am hoping for he has hurt her and he raped her but Sometimes people get revenge and feel worse or no better. I hope it works well for her she's one of the little ones that deserve it. If I ever had the opportunity to adopt a child like her the life she was in. I would love to spoil her and show her all these cute outfits she can wear instead of an old woman dress's. Get all kinds of makeup and cute stuff 😭 that's the mama i would be but I know a child like that would need time. But I'll take the time and make sure she's happy and gets comfy. And lots of love and let her live a life as a normal teenage girl, go to school, be with who she wants man or woman get married to who when she's ready have a child when she's ready.
I agree, I thought June was going to give her the option to get revenge or not and I had quite the shock when June instead pushed this child Into acting like a child soldier.
I already started to like Esther in this very first episode I saw her, and I feel so sorry for her... And there's a thing what I simply cannot understand. How could they even dare to do such things to her, when she is still a child and child is a treasue in Gilead...
Because she's a woman in their eyes. A Woman capable of bearing children. She's nothing but an incubator to them. She said her Commander husband was infertile/impotent so he brought in other men trying to impregnate her. He didn't care if she was treated well he just wanted a baby.
Because in Gilead a child is only a child until they become fruitful..... Girls and women only have 2 purposes in gilead. To serve men, and to be fruitful/multiply .... The moment these girls "flower as it was said when June was in the hospital." They become "women." Whether they are 10 or 15 does not matter to them. Look at how young nicks wife was as well ... They are literally groomed their entire childhoods to be good "obedient wives and breeders." It's sickening and when you rewatch it all in a Post Roe v Wade world ... It hits so differently ....
@@Trolls-Be-like Not really, we don't live in A Hand Maiden's Tale. You live in the United States of America. We are not a theologically run government, we are not a patriarchal government. I'm sorry that killing kids is now something you vote for.
Not a child. This idea that people who are under 18 but past puberty are still children is a modern conceit that is not technically correct. If you have passed puberty, and you live as an adult, you are an adult.
Crazy to think this is the same girl that likes Sheldon on young Sheldon LOL I really thought this scene was great! I do hope Ester lives and fights by June side! She is a badass like June is, just needs a bit of guidance but that’s all, other than that I do hope she stays good and fights for them!
It's crazy to think that good actors exist? Lol, this is their job. Watch her other films, she's great in every role. Also, Paige (her character) does not actually like Sheldon, they are more of frenemies.
I thought she did this so she can funnel their anger, especially the little girl who has sadistic qualities, to something or someone more deserving of it
Her daughter is still there, so anyone who is saying she is becoming the monster she hates obviously don't have children. She never leaves or stops trying to take it down because she wants her daughter back!!! If they require her to be as cold as them, they taught her well how to do that and she's come to realize that is all they understand. So to say she is becoming a monster is just wrong. They could just return the children, turn themselves in and admit their crimes, but they won't, so she sees these monsters she's killing as protecting her daughter and all the children from future assaulters. She sees teaching these girls how to fight back as salvation and the fight for freedom. They are assaulting young girls after mentally assaulting them as little girls, she's igniting their inner fire to burn through all this filth that was unfairly and wrongly put on and in them. Their bodies are literally being invaded!!!! They keep saying how selfish she is, when nothing is further from the truth. Until ALL the prisoners are free, including her daughter, how can she rest? How can she not take the evil they inflicted on her and use it against them to restore true purity of children and literally save the world? If Gilead and their followers are not completely destroyed what safe future does her daughter and all the other victims have? She is NOT becoming a monster. SHE IS A MOTHER WHO LOVES HER DAUGHTER AND REFUSES TO LEAVE HER TO SUCH A FATE. SHE'S A WOMAN OF GREAT EMPATHY AND CARES THAT OTHERS ARE ALSO SET FREE. A TRUE HERO. Take care :)
Ever heard the phrase “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”? This is what’s happening here. Everything June does is to save her daughters, but the more she does, the more she does questionably moral and ethic things. Take this scene. June could have finished the man himself. Instead she took a traumatized teenage girl and manipulated her to kill her own abuser by associating violence with maternal love. This action does nothing to save her kids (June could accomplish the same thing herself) and hurts Esther even more. June should have comfort her and empowered her in a healthy way.
@@pisces2569 If you've never been assaulted repeatedly, then you have no idea what you're saying. This girl was given the tools to feel empowered just as she needed to release the rage that she had to keep quiet, assault after assault. IF they allowed girls in America to give back as good as the assaulters gave, this would be happening in America right now. They arrest girls if they try to kill their assaulters and how many women are in prison RIGHT NOW simply for defending themselves against an assaulter? THAT is NOT fair. Getting a lawyer and counselor does not help make one feel better when someone has been PHYSICALLY violated. Only PHYSICAL justice and retribution makes one feel better. I've seen it over and over. Those in therapy NEVER heal - those that destroy those that hurt them - they feel soooooooooooooooooooo much better. My Dad's car was blown up and sadly he wasn't in it. The entire town was sad about this. You know not what you speak because you haven't been born into a family where they only breed girls to assault and pass around to Fathers, Uncles, cousins, Grand Fathers, friends, business associates etc. From toddlers on. They put vodka in our bottle with oj to drug us. Still can't drink oj to this day. Why are most pedos walking free to this very day. We told and told, I was one man's 22nd victim, he had little girls and he got the other little girls at playdates - he was out the next day. Have you ever been to family court? Even if your Daddy is a pedo, he still has visitation rights. Yup. Look up the laws in America at how young they're still allowed to marry girls off - 12. As soon as man's law of protect the assaulter and pedo is done away with, then you'll see real justice - statute of limitations - you can show video of the assault and they won't touch the assaulters. What you call healing is a false fabrication and polite way of saying we can't do anything about what they did to you because man's law protects assaulters and pedos currently in America. We see right through that nonsense. What you suggest is to ask them to stuff it waaaay down, but I guarantee you, they see them walking free and it will ALL come back up to the surface and they will despise your weakness and inability to admit the law favors evil currently - not just in this tv show. So if you can't handle it in a tv show, the coming reality is gonna be waaaaay too honest for you. Remember, when you know better you do better - killing assaulters has never been the problem - it is the NOT killing of them that has led this world to ruin and the idea that this tv show could become reality if girls don't step up and take care of themselves physically as well as mentally. UNWOMEN is from this old tale and it's no coincidence UNWOMEN is the slogan for the UN currently. Look up it's poster. It says UNWOMEN. Saying NO isn't enough. Never was. You have to MAKE them stop and only one way to do that and it's NOT therapy. Why don't you go to the po po after an assault - see how little they care - see if they will even offer you a glass of water or a place to sit down while you tell your story. See if you don't just file a complaint that goes no where because who assaulted you is more important than you on the money ladder. Wake up and smell reality. Be well and take care. :)
I believe rapists should be given the death penalty, or castrated at the very least. Make the punishment worthy of crime. Besides murdering someone raping them is the worst thing you can do to another human being.
Would you rather I rape you or cut off your hands? People pretend rape is worse because it happens to women and children but things worse than rape happen to men all the time.
@@glol1097 hi, I said that because all the rapists on here are being portrayed as men. Yet, in real life, this is furthest from the truth! I was raped by females and it still scars and devastatingly pains me to this day. The original poster said they should get the death penalty. I agree! I’m just wondering if I and other men were seen as beating the females to death who raped up if it will still be viewed as equal in society. It hurts me as much as it hurt anyone else. Is my voice not allowed to be heard? Am I allowed to also get my revenge?
@@glol1097 The point was that no one does. Women don't get in trouble for sexually assaulting men. The only time they get in any trouble is when they have sex with a young boy and get pregnant so that everyone has irrefutable proof it happened.
@@MR-mc5xg No it is a real thing. It happened to someone in my family ( about 12 years old). Seems to becoming more common in the last twenty years. Women can also be manipulative when they are broken up with ( seen it in high school) and this can also cause issues. You have the falsely accused in prison then you have the misidentified in prison ( the last by far is the largest numbers). Kinda feels like the right thing….. until people are standing over the graves weeping because an innocent man/woman died because of an unjust legal system. When you read a book about psychology and the misidentification of suspects in crimes, it will almost make you never want to be on a jury again.
She’s an incredible actress, Esther.. she played little Tonny, in I, Tonya. And I really love Ann Dowd, she is just excellent as Aunt Lydia. All good actors. Can become a little morbid to watch tho.
Probably better off not. What June did was not healthy or right. She took a traumatized child and manipulated her into killing her abuser by associating maternal love and validation with violence. This will only hurt Esther.
June was absolutely being unfair and selfish in this scene. She's using Esther to exact her revenge on Gilead to lessen her own suffering. This is only gonna damage Esther even further.
So...I'm seriously the only one who DOESN'T trust Esther? I just think this little girl is darker and more controlling than most think. But if I'm wrong....sorry Esther!
She takes her anger out on the hand maids bc she is a traumatized teen lashing out. She felt betrayed by June when June wanted to lay low- Esther is young and thinks in terms of life and death very casually, willing to take tons of risks. She despises men because every man she’s ever known has abused her, except the Guardians who taught her how to make poison. June is able to reach her and reorient her to the fact that they are on the same side.
This scene disturbed me so much. Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way defending the rapist (he deserves justice) but I don’t like how June was so sadistic about this. Brutality and spite only passes on more hatred, it’s a dark spiral to go down. She is fighting to stop brutality and cruelty, yet she’s dishing it straight out (deserved or not) She should of protected Esther, not of manipulated her into killing
i get your point- but one of ester’s first lines were ”i want to hurt them so bad- gilead, the men” and i think june wanted to help ester ’stand up for herself’ and i don’t see in any way that ester hesitated to kill him and this is one of my fav scenes so far this season- but as i said, i get your point, u just wanted to add this idk👩❤️💋👩
@@nielubieinceli You’re not quite getting it are you? As I said, I am not defending the rapist in any way. But I don’t like how June behaved in that scene. As our protagonist, she is meant to set a much better example then that, not sink to that level of cruelty and sadistic behaviour. It’s disturbing to see a good person sink down to the very thing she’s fighting against.
@@laraeverdeen3544 Shes a product of her environment what do you expect. I don't think any person after years of physical/emotional abuse, repeatedly being raped, having two children taken away from her, losing men that she loved and watching her friends be killed and brutalised would make anyone a good person. She's a human being and eventually when subjugated to enough cruelty we have the capacity to snap.
@@killerqueen4411 You aren’t wrong, everyone is bound to snap at some point, it’s just sad to see it happen to someone like June who is trying to overthrow the cruelty of her society.
im getting the urge to watch this series it has something other shows dont have emotion and feeling when i watch a episode or clip i can really feel the emotion portrayed UPDATE i watched 2 eps and turned it off its doing the one thing i hate JUMPING from the present to the past
I'm really confused about June this season about her ethical decisions as I can't blame her either. Ok, so she exposed the other girls to save her daughter which is relatable and landed in Canada, BUT WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO ESTHER?
I'm frankly amazed how many think that cruel and unusual punishment should be justified and usual. Remember the warning about those who fight monsters.
So June essentially manipulated and dare I say used and abused this girl, in a different way but still... These manipulative phrases like ''Good girl'', ''Make me proud'' is how rapists/abusers/predators are talking to their victims...
Actually, the actress from daughter is Kiernan Brennan Shipka, who now plays Sabrina in the series Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. The funny thing is that Esther's actress Mckenna Grace plays the younger version of Sabrina on the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina series. So you're not the only one who thinks they look similar
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june is SO insane in this scene and honestly i love it because its a parallel to aunt lydia and how she acted towards the handmaids
I thought the same thing! On point
@Phoebus Apollo Garcia ikr!!!!!! shes finally getting revenge and i LOVE it
I'm not opposed to any rapist getting his just due from their victims
this my favorite scene it’s the turning point for the hand maids . where the predator becomes the prey. they realize after being slaves for so long living in what seemed like eternal darkness that in that darkness there is a flicker of light.
That desire for freedom to tread like humans to be treated as equals to give their children a future so they may prosper and be happy to smile instead of living in fear
still the commander stupid name only thing I have to gripe about. But he really was living in a world of his own that and was terrible at his job. literally he ended up in Canada without realizing it and was arrested.
90% of this series is a close up of June’s face.
She DOES give great 'losing sanity' face.
Too bad it's not much to look at.
@@Dreez76 If your face is as ugly as your comment, then she would still outlook you in a bad day.
Thank you for that trigger warning. Much appreciated.
the incels in the comments lmao
I love when June whispers to Esther, "make me proud." I love her character in this scene.
Amazing scene! Such chilling dialogue. June and Esther's facial expressions are on point and the tone June uses borders on insanity, which is understandable when you know what horrors she and her fellows handmaidens have been subjected to.
The huge amount of humiliation, torture, rape can change people into something they never thought of capable of being
This is the opposite of todays culture. Today if a woman gets pregnant from rape, the innocent unborn child gets the death penalty, and the rapist goes free. Rapists love abortions. It gets them off the hook. Apparently this is what pro-choicers prefer today.
"All it takes is just one bad day." June's had countless bad days, I just hope she doesn't lose her humanity completely.
That man didn't deserve humanity
@@AllyBubblesSpriggs I agree but when you fight monsters see that you do not become one in the process.
Is it possible not to lose humanity living in a place like this?! 😔
@@bartolomeestebanmurillo4459 k
As long as she has Hannah, Luke, Nicole, or anyone alive. She won't.
I have a feeling this will backfire massively, if we see more of Esther. She's a child. What she needed her was someone to comfort her and take care of her. Instead, June thrust the responsibility of "executing justice" onto her. Now, the first time Esther felt any agency in years is when she brutally killed someone. Empowerment through violence. And then afterwards June tells her she loves her - so she'll also tie that memory of killing someone to receiving affection and appreciation. That's how child soldiers are made. It's absolutely heartbreaking to watch, but really well written and acted. I love this show :)
Yeah it’s both rewarding to see this happen but obviously traumatic for Esther. June doing it would have been less traumatic, and been more like justice (Mayday are the “good guys” who enact true justice and help/defend ppl suffering in Gilead). But now Esther has made a very irreversible step into being part of Mayday and becoming a child soldier. And we know that that’s not going to be very good for her in the long run.
Oh please - it must have been wildly cathartic to cut that ugly thing off. Good for Esther.
@@truegrit7697 in the moment - sure. That doesn't mean it won't have any negative consequences. It's not going to heal Esther.
I think you are right but i think she also let esther do it because she wanted to prepare her for what is to come, to be able to fight when necessary.
June is actually a piece of shit. That character should have died seasons ago. She is selfish and arrogant. The guard got what he deserved but making Esther do it was wrong. June should have done it. She’s trying to make Esther like her..that’s some Aunt shit right there.
I love how the first offense she listed was that he betrayed his own country. I feel this show often misses that angle focusing on the sexual violence that is commited, which is completely understandable. But I love that June remembers that not only are they rapists and abusers…but fucking traitors too!
Just like those traitors that marched in DC to overthrow Joe Biden on Jan 6th.
@@jonmunoz2772 or just like Anton who supports gun control
@@crunch9876 you are traitors and limiting the amount of weapons is not treason whether you think it is or not, the fact is that those who committed the coup attempt on Jan 6th ARE TRAITORS and nothing you say or do to blame Democrats for will justify real treason.
@@crunch9876 you are a traitor and Democrats are the real Patriots.
I mean basically they are republicans...
I know this may seem crazy to us in a civilized nation, but what June and the ladies did here was honestly necessary for their situation. When tyranny is law, revolution is order
Ha, ha I'm thinking this is the line of a fascist.
@@garyjohnson4778 It's the line of someone who understands the situation. They're opressed under a fascist regime... What can they do but spark a revolution through violence? Eye for an eye.
I mean, very true - but for a different reason. They couldn't exactly let the guy leave, or he would've immediately told the eyes where they were.
We are not as civilised as it seems that we are .
that platitude means nothing. Law is always tyranny.
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
Shit, that scene was one of the most intense thing in this show. When June said "Good girl, make me proud" I had Aunt Lydia's vibe in a twisted haunting way. Her character development is so well written. You are rooting for her but at the same time she scares the sh*t out of you like in this scene when she is ruthless in a dark complex way.
the knife was a really nice visual metaphor for this episode. first, june disarms esther of it by empathizing with her, but then, here, she gives it back. now everything esther does against gilead, june has facilitated, and the dialogue here reflects that very nicely. particularly the excitement when she repeats that one line, “you were right”.
I agree. Definitely gave me Aunt Lydia vibes. Especially when she said “Girls” and when was talking to the other Hand Maids. June seems so insane in this moment but she’s in the most sanest state of mind. This showed how much Gilead has changed june. I do wish Esther and June have a reunion(or just more screen time together) even though it’s unlikely I think Esther really looked up to june and there relationship had just really started to develop.
Nietzsche?
@Eva no, no, i disagree. esther sincerely wanted to kill, and i think that’s where the problem lies. she told esther to give in to her anger against gilead. she encouraged her to not think about the consequences and give in to her anger. but this was already something that esther wanted to do.
i think it’s more like june, by indulging esther, has created in her a killer. esther knows how to kill. she believes now that she is justified in doing so. i think that’s going to become a problem for gilead, and then it’ll become a problem for june.
@@MrCauseEffect
Yes ...
It comes from 'Beyond Good and Evil: A Prelude to a Philosophy of that Future' (1886)
I honestly don't blame her AT ALL. I would have lost my shit ages ago.
People are saying that June Osborne is pulling an Aunt Lydia, and I'm seeing more of an Anakin Skywalker.
How?
Embracing her wicked, revengeful side in her leadership after so many hardships, thoughtlessness and loss of loved ones.
@@g.Raider precisely.
What's the difference, they're both evil twonks.
Anakin never had this kind of autonomy.
When we were introduced to Esther I got a lot of Serena vibes watching her. She acts a lot like Serena.
I mean, she acts like how she knows a Wife has to act. But you can tell she’s very much a rebellious and traumatized teenager who takes whatever power she can (over other women, always insisting it’s “her house”). Serena is a narcissist on another level.
Serena helped create Gilead. Esther is just a product of it.
@@SjofnBM1989 Indeed.
Sadly that’s how she was thought how to act she’s just a child 😩
For a moment I thought you were talking about gossip girl.
okay but like. literally no one can say he didn't deserve it. he got what was coming to him. they went easy on him actually
Honestly, this is how all rapists should be handled. Humane means should not be given to those who lack humanity.
That is some Gilead logic right there. A humane society depends on allowing everyone their basic dignity - even those who did terrible things.
@@peaceblossom8 no
@@icyunvme2400 convincing argument there. You've changed mind. :D
@@peaceblossom8 Good💀
@@peaceblossom8 if you take someone else's basic dignity away then your right to have one should be taken away too.
That should just be the standard punishment for child rapists and traitors frankly.
Especially the DC rioters who tried to establish a fascist dictatorship on Jan 6th.
Yes, but not executed by a child.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 they took away her innocence by force, what do you expect her reaction would be.
Ok but who gets to determine who a traitor is?
@@crunch9876 the law and the constitution which your god trump broke and tried to overthrow the constitution on Jan 6th.
June is like the weapon you bring when you want something to really burn.
All rapists deserve the same fate. Love this scene!
What about experimenting on rapists and murderers and human traffickers as well as KKK members instead of innocent animals though? Find a cure for Ebola ,Alzheimer's or cancer that way.
Absolutely agreed 👏
AGREED
I love the parallels to Gillead's "trials" with the "defendant" being muzzled.
"Good girl, make me proud." JUNE IT IS MY RELIGION. 🖤
Moss is as good as it gets acting wise, truly remarkable really.
One of the best scenes in the show!!! The acting is amazing, so well put in all ways
I really loved Esther. I wished that we could have seen more of her
I wonder what will happen to her now she has been found out helping Mayday. If she is fertile they might make her a handmaid, if not probably send her to the colonies.
@@lanpingpug you can see her wearing handmaid’s clothes with aunt lydia in the trailer-
@@langburgerr I wondered who that was!
esther is one of my new favorites, i really hope she’s a big part of this season
Did no one noticed June was using Lydia's manipulation tactic to kill by amping everyone up and whispering in Esther's ear like a devil on her shoulder. June is manipulating Esther like she does with everyone when she has them in her grip they usually always died.
When Esther went to lay with her you can see the evil look in June's eyes like " 😏 I got you where I want you and need you"
I think June cares for her .
I think June was telling him why he was going to die.
@@paigeturner2799 No she was acting like Lydia she was whispering in Esther's ear (Like a devil on your shoulder) if you watch and listen to Lydia that's how she manipulates them like puppets to do evil..killing a rapist isn't evil but Esther is young she will forever remember what she had done and maybe later regret or cant live with it or she will be fine and feel liberated which is the case I am hoping for he has hurt her and he raped her but Sometimes people get revenge and feel worse or no better. I hope it works well for her she's one of the little ones that deserve it.
If I ever had the opportunity to adopt a child like her the life she was in. I would love to spoil her and show her all these cute outfits she can wear instead of an old woman dress's. Get all kinds of makeup and cute stuff 😭 that's the mama i would be but I know a child like that would need time. But I'll take the time and make sure she's happy and gets comfy.
And lots of love and let her live a life as a normal teenage girl, go to school, be with who she wants man or woman get married to who when she's ready have a child when she's ready.
I agree, I thought June was going to give her the option to get revenge or not and I had quite the shock when June instead pushed this child Into acting like a child soldier.
Naw, Mrs. Keyes didn't NEED to be manipulated. She wanted to kill him, trust me.
I mean... at this point with all the horrible things that June has suffered how is it that she remains sane?
I don't think she is sane, at least not completely, she is totally unstoppable and people don't become like that on coincidence
@@samtheenbygremlin7177 you got that right
Cause the shows a shower of shite.
Shes becoming more sadistic.
I'm actually sad for her.
She seems to act like an Aunt here.
Does she look sane to you
"What do you get when you cross a woman who's had everything taken from her?! You GET what you fucking deserve!"
I already started to like Esther in this very first episode I saw her, and I feel so sorry for her... And there's a thing what I simply cannot understand. How could they even dare to do such things to her, when she is still a child and child is a treasue in Gilead...
Because she's a woman in their eyes.
A Woman capable of bearing children. She's nothing but an incubator to them. She said her Commander husband was infertile/impotent so he brought in other men trying to impregnate her. He didn't care if she was treated well he just wanted a baby.
She’s already capable of bearing children, she stopped being a child in that moment.
Because in Gilead a child is only a child until they become fruitful..... Girls and women only have 2 purposes in gilead. To serve men, and to be fruitful/multiply .... The moment these girls "flower as it was said when June was in the hospital." They become "women." Whether they are 10 or 15 does not matter to them. Look at how young nicks wife was as well ... They are literally groomed their entire childhoods to be good "obedient wives and breeders." It's sickening and when you rewatch it all in a Post Roe v Wade world ... It hits so differently ....
@@Trolls-Be-like
Not really, we don't live in A Hand Maiden's Tale. You live in the United States of America. We are not a theologically run government, we are not a patriarchal government. I'm sorry that killing kids is now something you vote for.
Not a child. This idea that people who are under 18 but past puberty are still children is a modern conceit that is not technically correct. If you have passed puberty, and you live as an adult, you are an adult.
Crazy to think this is the same girl that likes Sheldon on young Sheldon LOL I really thought this scene was great! I do hope Ester lives and fights by June side! She is a badass like June is, just needs a bit of guidance but that’s all, other than that I do hope she stays good and fights for them!
And the shooting was in the same year.
Omg I knew she was familiar!!!!!
Definitely one to watch!
It's crazy to think that good actors exist? Lol, this is their job. Watch her other films, she's great in every role. Also, Paige (her character) does not actually like Sheldon, they are more of frenemies.
God, I love how this show makes you complicit!
I’m here after finding out McKenna is nominated for a Emmy, CONGRATULATIONS 🎊🎉
Elisabeth Moss is one heck of an actress! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You know what?
Good for her. Esther got to end THIS creep, June got to end Freddy Boy, I like the direction this show is going in.
Wht the hllllllllllllllllllll
That scary creep
Esther what are you doing n bad 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
everyone saying "aunt lydia vibes" even though i am pretty sure june was intentionally mimicking aunt lydia lol
I was shocked that june motivates the girl to kill somebody.On the other hand she simply lost her mind🤯
I thought she did this so she can funnel their anger, especially the little girl who has sadistic qualities, to something or someone more deserving of it
June has had so much trauma, she is going to take down as many despicable characters as possible. June dgaf. 🤓
Her daughter is still there, so anyone who is saying she is becoming the monster she hates obviously don't have children. She never leaves or stops trying to take it down because she wants her daughter back!!! If they require her to be as cold as them, they taught her well how to do that and she's come to realize that is all they understand. So to say she is becoming a monster is just wrong. They could just return the children, turn themselves in and admit their crimes, but they won't, so she sees these monsters she's killing as protecting her daughter and all the children from future assaulters. She sees teaching these girls how to fight back as salvation and the fight for freedom. They are assaulting young girls after mentally assaulting them as little girls, she's igniting their inner fire to burn through all this filth that was unfairly and wrongly put on and in them. Their bodies are literally being invaded!!!! They keep saying how selfish she is, when nothing is further from the truth. Until ALL the prisoners are free, including her daughter, how can she rest? How can she not take the evil they inflicted on her and use it against them to restore true purity of children and literally save the world? If Gilead and their followers are not completely destroyed what safe future does her daughter and all the other victims have? She is NOT becoming a monster. SHE IS A MOTHER WHO LOVES HER DAUGHTER AND REFUSES TO LEAVE HER TO SUCH A FATE. SHE'S A WOMAN OF GREAT EMPATHY AND CARES THAT OTHERS ARE ALSO SET FREE. A TRUE HERO. Take care :)
Julie Bella, it's great to see someone who finally gets it 👍 👏 🙌!!
Ever heard the phrase “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”? This is what’s happening here. Everything June does is to save her daughters, but the more she does, the more she does questionably moral and ethic things. Take this scene. June could have finished the man himself. Instead she took a traumatized teenage girl and manipulated her to kill her own abuser by associating violence with maternal love. This action does nothing to save her kids (June could accomplish the same thing herself) and hurts Esther even more. June should have comfort her and empowered her in a healthy way.
@@Lightner445555555555 Thank you! :)
@@pisces2569 If you've never been assaulted repeatedly, then you have no idea what you're saying. This girl was given the tools to feel empowered just as she needed to release the rage that she had to keep quiet, assault after assault. IF they allowed girls in America to give back as good as the assaulters gave, this would be happening in America right now. They arrest girls if they try to kill their assaulters and how many women are in prison RIGHT NOW simply for defending themselves against an assaulter? THAT is NOT fair. Getting a lawyer and counselor does not help make one feel better when someone has been PHYSICALLY violated. Only PHYSICAL justice and retribution makes one feel better. I've seen it over and over. Those in therapy NEVER heal - those that destroy those that hurt them - they feel soooooooooooooooooooo much better.
My Dad's car was blown up and sadly he wasn't in it. The entire town was sad about this. You know not what you speak because you haven't been born into a family where they only breed girls to assault and pass around to Fathers, Uncles, cousins, Grand Fathers, friends, business associates etc. From toddlers on. They put vodka in our bottle with oj to drug us. Still can't drink oj to this day. Why are most pedos walking free to this very day. We told and told, I was one man's 22nd victim, he had little girls and he got the other little girls at playdates - he was out the next day. Have you ever been to family court? Even if your Daddy is a pedo, he still has visitation rights. Yup. Look up the laws in America at how young they're still allowed to marry girls off - 12.
As soon as man's law of protect the assaulter and pedo is done away with, then you'll see real justice - statute of limitations - you can show video of the assault and they won't touch the assaulters. What you call healing is a false fabrication and polite way of saying we can't do anything about what they did to you because man's law protects assaulters and pedos currently in America. We see right through that nonsense. What you suggest is to ask them to stuff it waaaay down, but I guarantee you, they see them walking free and it will ALL come back up to the surface and they will despise your weakness and inability to admit the law favors evil currently - not just in this tv show. So if you can't handle it in a tv show, the coming reality is gonna be waaaaay too honest for you.
Remember, when you know better you do better - killing assaulters has never been the problem - it is the NOT killing of them that has led this world to ruin and the idea that this tv show could become reality if girls don't step up and take care of themselves physically as well as mentally. UNWOMEN is from this old tale and it's no coincidence UNWOMEN is the slogan for the UN currently. Look up it's poster. It says UNWOMEN. Saying NO isn't enough. Never was. You have to MAKE them stop and only one way to do that and it's NOT therapy. Why don't you go to the po po after an assault - see how little they care - see if they will even offer you a glass of water or a place to sit down while you tell your story. See if you don't just file a complaint that goes no where because who assaulted you is more important than you on the money ladder. Wake up and smell reality. Be well and take care. :)
all rapists should be punished this way, if not by their victims, then by the law
Technically true under islam
I believe rapists should be given the death penalty, or castrated at the very least. Make the punishment worthy of crime. Besides murdering someone raping them is the worst thing you can do to another human being.
So female rapists as well?
@@Theo973 ur so weird
@@AidenJones nah you are
Would you rather I rape you or cut off your hands? People pretend rape is worse because it happens to women and children but things worse than rape happen to men all the time.
Mayhem is far worse than rape. Show me one rape victim who would have rather lost an arm.
Death sentence for rapists makes a lot of sense.
For females as well?
@@Theo973 They said ‘rapists’, there was no mention of male or female. Interesting you associated that with men though
@@glol1097 hi,
I said that because all the rapists on here are being portrayed as men. Yet, in real life, this is furthest from the truth! I was raped by females and it still scars and devastatingly pains me to this day. The original poster said they should get the death penalty. I agree! I’m just wondering if I and other men were seen as beating the females to death who raped up if it will still be viewed as equal in society. It hurts me as much as it hurt anyone else. Is my voice not allowed to be heard? Am I allowed to also get my revenge?
@@glol1097 The point was that no one does. Women don't get in trouble for sexually assaulting men. The only time they get in any trouble is when they have sex with a young boy and get pregnant so that everyone has irrefutable proof it happened.
God, this scene is satisfying.
Good girl..... make me proud oooofffff gives me chills my favorite line in the scene
I miss Esther. Such a good character. Really wish she could have gotten out
I hope we get to see her again! I haven’t seen the new episode since I’m out the country 😩
This should be every rapist’s punishment tbh
For females as well?
@@Theo973 yes?? i said every rapist
@@TheKlutz31013 He just wants to make it about gender
@@Theo973 A rapist is a rapist, Theo.
@@MR-mc5xg No it is a real thing. It happened to someone in my family ( about 12 years old). Seems to becoming more common in the last twenty years. Women can also be manipulative when they are broken up with ( seen it in high school) and this can also cause issues. You have the falsely accused in prison then you have the misidentified in prison ( the last by far is the largest numbers). Kinda feels like the right thing….. until people are standing over the graves weeping because an innocent man/woman died because of an unjust legal system. When you read a book about psychology and the misidentification of suspects in crimes, it will almost make you never want to be on a jury again.
God McKenna Grace’s acting is good
She’s an incredible actress, Esther..
she played little Tonny, in I, Tonya.
And I really love Ann Dowd, she is just excellent as Aunt Lydia. All good actors. Can become a little morbid to watch tho.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
Some of these laws should be re-established! Raping children should be a death penalty, maybe that fear will stop them.
Wish I had June Osbourne in my corner when I reported my childhood victimization.
Probably better off not. What June did was not healthy or right. She took a traumatized child and manipulated her into killing her abuser by associating maternal love and validation with violence. This will only hurt Esther.
Elizabeth moss ......legend.....hope she won awards for THIS role
The true meaning of justice
I could barely watch season 1 as it was hard to watch this pain to treat women and the restraint of freedom.
Shit that was dark
The Handmaid's Tale is happening for real in the Muslim nations.
'Good girl' AHH I LOVE HER
This was rough
Yeah it really was but also satisfying at the same time.
Also I’m a Ohio state fan as well raised by a Ohio state family
Definitely seeing a rebel aunt Lydia vibe from our June
June was absolutely being unfair and selfish in this scene. She's using Esther to exact her revenge on Gilead to lessen her own suffering. This is only gonna damage Esther even further.
Meh, I'm ok with it.
So...I'm seriously the only one who DOESN'T trust Esther? I just think this little girl is darker and more controlling than most think. But if I'm wrong....sorry Esther!
She takes her anger out on the hand maids bc she is a traumatized teen lashing out. She felt betrayed by June when June wanted to lay low- Esther is young and thinks in terms of life and death very casually, willing to take tons of risks. She despises men because every man she’s ever known has abused her, except the Guardians who taught her how to make poison. June is able to reach her and reorient her to the fact that they are on the same side.
What a crazy juxtaposition to Aunt Lydia's speech before the particicution of the "rapist guardian" in season 1
This scene is very similar to the final scenes of Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus which was made into a movie entitled Titus starring Anthony Hopkins.
Savage June Osborne stopped in the middle of her walk to hear the man suffering damn.
I LOVE this scene!
This scene disturbed me so much. Don’t get me wrong, I am in no way defending the rapist (he deserves justice) but I don’t like how June was so sadistic about this. Brutality and spite only passes on more hatred, it’s a dark spiral to go down. She is fighting to stop brutality and cruelty, yet she’s dishing it straight out (deserved or not) She should of protected Esther, not of manipulated her into killing
i get your point- but one of ester’s first lines were ”i want to hurt them so bad- gilead, the men” and i think june wanted to help ester ’stand up for herself’ and i don’t see in any way that ester hesitated to kill him and this is one of my fav scenes so far this season- but as i said, i get your point, u just wanted to add this idk👩❤️💋👩
Oh, yeah, poor rapists, let's give them some hotel rooms with good breakfast.
@@nielubieinceli You’re not quite getting it are you? As I said, I am not defending the rapist in any way. But I don’t like how June behaved in that scene. As our protagonist, she is meant to set a much better example then that, not sink to that level of cruelty and sadistic behaviour. It’s disturbing to see a good person sink down to the very thing she’s fighting against.
@@laraeverdeen3544 Shes a product of her environment what do you expect. I don't think any person after years of physical/emotional abuse, repeatedly being raped, having two children taken away from her, losing men that she loved and watching her friends be killed and brutalised would make anyone a good person. She's a human being and eventually when subjugated to enough cruelty we have the capacity to snap.
@@killerqueen4411 You aren’t wrong, everyone is bound to snap at some point, it’s just sad to see it happen to someone like June who is trying to overthrow the cruelty of her society.
Elizabeth moss is absolutely superb
So.....not an execution per se. At least we didn't get to see one. Title a trifle misleading.
Why dose this scene is so SATISFYING to watch? Is something wrong me? I hope not😑
Lucifer: “No You’re just letting him off easy!”
That scene later when they’re in bed together and she called her Bannana. That’s when I knew that June has gone Coocoo for coco puffs.
Is death... love that delivery
Omg is that Paige from Young Sheldon?
Yup
I love this show.
im getting the urge to watch this series it has something other shows dont have emotion and feeling when i watch a episode or clip i can really feel the emotion portrayed UPDATE i watched 2 eps and turned it off its doing the one thing i hate JUMPING from the present to the past
I'm really confused about June this season about her ethical decisions as I can't blame her either. Ok, so she exposed the other girls to save her daughter which is relatable and landed in Canada, BUT WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO ESTHER?
We are going to have to start doing this
I can’t believe she’s born in 2006!!!
MAKE ME PROUD OOOH I GOT CHILLSSS
Loved this scene
Elizabeth is out of this world.
This show is good vs evil, and then they change places. The stuff of nightmares!
No. This show is weak versus evil. Good isn't' involved. Good shows up for five minutes in season 5 and gets unceremoniously shot down.
Kinda screwed up the only characters in this scene to live to the end of the
season finale are Esther, June and Janeane.
I'm currently writing a fan fiction novel on this show where every single commander meets a slow, gruesome death.
Seems like a real feel good kind is show....
I don't care what happens to individuals like that but this harms the people who are left afterward
These comments did not pass the vibe check
Can the do something other than close ups of June's shaky big angry nose smile? 4, season learn a different shot.
The music is so ominous..holy shit.
I'm frankly amazed how many think that cruel and unusual punishment should be justified and usual.
Remember the warning about those who fight monsters.
@The Lost Sheep Justice is supposed to be objective
@The Lost Sheep I'm unclear what you mean. Objective = impartial
Wow. These Disney live action remakes are getting dark.
The girl could be the perfect live action Ellie from tlou
Terrrible how June has changed.. only hate and rage..
Margaret Atwood in a nutshell.
Just realized the girl is Makenna Grace ,from Young Sheldon!
I left after season 2. Apparently things have changed 😂
90% of this series sadness
Which Game of Thrones character is the biggest influence on June?
A. Arya
B. Daenerys
C. Cersei
I've never seen this movie, but I saw "rapist execution" and knew I had to see this.
Hope we see more of esther, maybe sees her killing more of her rapist arya stark style
So June essentially manipulated and dare I say used and abused this girl, in a different way but still... These manipulative phrases like ''Good girl'', ''Make me proud'' is how rapists/abusers/predators are talking to their victims...
Ikr! The girl has been through trauma and now this is even more! I mean yes the man deserves it but it’s not good for the girl to witness imo
imagine if serena and esther met tho
I’m pretty sure Esther is Don Draper’s daughter in Mad Men
Actually, the actress from daughter is Kiernan Brennan Shipka, who now plays Sabrina in the series Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. The funny thing is that Esther's actress Mckenna Grace plays the younger version of Sabrina on the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina series. So you're not the only one who thinks they look similar