The State of Mind. Transformations of public opinion in Russia 2018-2023 | Ekaterina Schulmann
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- Russian politics has shifted to more aggression, but what do Russian people think? Using a range of sociological data collected by official and independent polling agencies as well as circumstantial evidence and indirect markers of behavioral changes, including demographic data and crime statistics, Ekaterina Schulmann attempts to trace an evolution of public opinion in Russia from the final erosion of the Crimean consensus in 2018 until into the full-scale war in 2023. Inglehart-Welzel World Values Survey results and studies of proto-party groups ("political preference clouds'') are used in this overview in an attempt to sketch possible lines of behavior of a post-authoritarian society in a weakened state of power.
@Ekaterina_Schulmann is a political scientist and a major voice in the Russian opposition. Her contributions reach large audiences. Over one million people follow her analyses on her RUclips.
After speaking out against Russia’s war of aggression on Ukraine, she left the country in the spring of 2022. She has been Fellow at Robert Bosch Academy in Berlin. On May 4, 2023, she followed an invitation of FRIAS and @zwetajewa-zentrum an der Universität Freiburg e.V.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction by Dr. Arndt Michael (Colloquium Politicum)
05:53 Start of presentation by Prof. Ekaterina Schulmann
08:26 How far can we trust the polls?
16:46 Why does public opinion matter in non-democracies?
20:24 Presidential Ratings over time
28:57 Institutional trust in Russian society
32:50 Eroding trust after the Crimean Consensus
36:42 Age as the main predictor for attitude towards the war
43:10 Peace Agreement or March on Kyiv?
48:01 Calm vs. Anxiety: Mood in Russian society
52:40 Feelings about war on Ukraine
56:45 Media Consumption and attitudes
59:45 Russians' hierarchy of values
01:04:25 Russians' preferred political system
01:05:51 Conclusion
01:10:48 Questions from the audience
The event was part of the "Freiburg Horizons" lecture series, organized by the Freiburg Institute for Advanced Studies (FRIAS). The discussion was moderated by Dr. Arndt Michael, director of the Colloquium Politicum. Since 2015, the Freiburg Horizons have been addressing current and socially relevant topics through lectures, panel discussions and symposia. Lectures from previous semesters that took place in the context of the Freiburg Horizons are available in the FRIAS Mediathek: www.frias.uni-freiburg.de/mediathek.
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I will go to every university's channel to see every guest lecture of Dr. Schulmann. m'lady🎩
"You think what you think, you say what they want you to say and you do what it takes to survive... " Thank you Prof Schulman for this lecture and all your efforts to be not only a silent witness but for analyses of those chronicles. And many thanks to the FreiburgInstitutee for hosting and publishing this wonderfull lecture! Science should go to mass! :)
The world recession that began in the U.S. is hitting Germany much harder than us, due to a collapse in world trade that has damaged an economy that Germans constantly refer to as “the World Export Champion.” Their economy will have shrunk by about 8% by the time it bottoms, whereas America’s GDP should fall less than 4% from its peak. Intriguingly, the German public and elites feel much better about their situation than Americans do about ours. The key question is whether this represents: a justified faith in a system that works well for them; government measures that delay the pain; German complacency; or some combination of these factors.
...and how does anything she said differ from the state of being in the so-called Western societies?
1:18:03 So chilling delivery
@@Juhziz Finishing Ukraine by the end of this summer
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Thank you, Freiburg Institute, for inviting Ekaterina Mikhailovna! It was an immensely informative lecture
Solche Gäste wie Ekaterina Michailowna sind immer interessant zu hören! Vielen Dank für die tolle Vorlesung von Ekaterina Schulmann! Russland sei frei!⚪️🔵⚪️
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11:56 - "когда вы знаете что за неправильный ответ можно получить 15 лет это поразительным образом консолидирует ОБЩЕСТВЕННОЕ МНЕНИЕ" -- ТАБЛИЦА отказов от опросов
Смотрю Екатерину Михайловну в перерывах между парами, очень рад, что она стала выступать на разных площадках и аудиториях, в том числе, потому что объясняет в других странах специфику российского общества и политического режима)
Ekaterina Schulman! Thanks for this. Brilliant work, fantastic speaker.
Thank you so much for inviting such a wonderful lecturer! We greatly admire Dr Schulmann!
The world recession that began in the U.S. is hitting Germany much harder than us, due to a collapse in world trade that has damaged an economy that Germans constantly refer to as “the World Export Champion.” Their economy will have shrunk by about 8% by the time it bottoms, whereas America’s GDP should fall less than 4% from its peak. Intriguingly, the German public and elites feel much better about their situation than Americans do about ours. The key question is whether this represents: a justified faith in a system that works well for them; government measures that delay the pain; German complacency; or some combination of these factors.
Очень интересно и познавательно слушать, спасибо что на английском, что помогает большему количеству людей понять что твориться в России!
тся
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оо, полиция не дремлет, особенно, грамматическая полиция.
Ахаха! Ну да, Шульман, которая находится в Германии и вообше никак не связана с политикой России, больше всех понимает, что творится в России :D Слушайте еще, она вам расскажет :D
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need to be more heard! thank you for uploading!
56:04 про потребительский оптимизм, мне кажется это в большей степени выводы в духе 'все не так плохо, как нам мажется могло быть" потолок не упал, банки работают, в магазинах не пустые полки"
Условно, ответ на вопрос "ожидаете ли вы умереть от голода/быть выселенным за долги в ближайшие пол года".
Надо попробовать опрашивать как с уровнем тревожности про людей вокруг.
Such a brilliant lecture! Thank you so much for sharing!
If only the BBC, the Times, the Telegraph etc etc were forced to spend time with Ekaterina Schulman. Then we might, one day, start to get a sense of how modern Russian minds work. Such clarity and single mindedness, I was genuinely concerned for her safety while she stayed in Russia, we should be glad she got out when she did, and it’s a bit shameful that her audience is still relatively small.
She was perfectly fine and even worked for Putin's council on human rights in Russia (ridiculous). She's not an opposition. Opposition either dead like Nemtsov or Politkovskaya or expelled or imprisoned. She's just an imperial opportunist
@@andriyandriychuk real opposition is dead or imprisoned? Ok what is your complaint anyway?
My complaint is Schulman & Co and Putin & Co are alike, they just differ by methods. Russian Imperialists are all alike. They don't mention that Ukraine is different, that war in Ukraine has a root cause - which is Russian Imperialism, they don't mention that Crimea is not Russia, they perfectly understand why Putin is doing what he's doing. The only thing they disagree with is the method. Shulman & Co, all these Russian opportunistic emigration agrees Ukraine must be occupied. Russian Imperialists just think that must be done WITHOUT WAR. They don't think Ukraine is an independent state. They do think Ukrainians are the people of second sort. They are imperialists. Schulman called Ukraine 'anocracy' which is sufficiently incorrect and degrading assessment and reflects her real view on Ukraine. I can name only 4 Russians that recognize Ukraine as equal to Russia and don't deeply crave Crimea to be Russian
@@andriyandriychuk She is not a politician nor an investigator - she is a scientist.
what's your point?
What is your point that she's a scientist? She's not, she's a researcher in social studies. What is your point? My point is that she's Russian imperialist and opportunist and cannot be trusted and welcomed. That's my point. It is fair when you dig deeper through content analysis of her talks and speeches
Much love to professor Schulmann!❤
Thank you so much for inviting this brilliant speaker!
Ekaterina, thanks for your lecture. 2 points of concern:
1. You should be on the lookout for the shorthands you use. As your current target audience is international, they are not privy to the same memes we internalized. E.g. "Crimea happened", "Then Georgia", "Turkey shot the plane", "They don't watch Irony of Fate", "Celebrate 9th of May" - these are not self-evident terms for people who don't keep a close look on Russia's history and culture. For comparison: imagine an expert talking like that about Indo-Pakistan conflicts in 2001-2021, which were crucial events for some of locals and the countries' foreign policies - but what do we know about them? Yeah.
2. After you've utilized the same half-translated slides for several lectures, I really, really think you should endeavor to translate them fully for future usage. Just imagining the struggles of people trying to understand the intricacies of our society from the similarly-colored lines on the screen based on your rapid verbal explanation - it's disheartening.
Valid points. And fixable. I hope Ekaterina Mikhaylovna will notice this message.
To be fair, I believe those who attend her lectures likely have a fundamental understanding of international conflicts, such as the Crimean occupation, the war with Georgia, the downing of the plane by Turkey, and the significance of May 9th to Russians. Admittedly, my knowledge of the events on the India-Pakistan border from 2001 to 2021 is limited at best. However, if I were to attend such a lecture, I would surely take the time to research it beforehand. Takes about 10 minutes of reading for a high school student, not a big deal.
You are correct about the Soviet movie though, she could’ve used something else. And although I can read them, those bilingual slides also bothered me, particularly the one at 36:07. The use of green could have been interpreted as ‘in favor,’ while red could signify the opposite. There’s no standardized color palette for polling data results.
Shulman is great as always! And I want to pay tribute to the facilitator - his introduction, preparation for the discussion, and facilitation were great! Looking forward to hear his discussion with Shulman, which was sadly skipped!
Спасибо что пригласили Екатерину, голос разума моего и других поколений
Very interesting and informative talk, Thank you. I especially liked the Q&A segment at the end.
Loved it! Huge thanks to the university, it’s a pleasure to listen EMSh in English once in a while
Thanks for the lecture!
Ekaterina Schulman, our beloved lecturer 🥰
Наконец-то Екатерину Михайловну на публичном выступлении представили как подобает! Всегда бы так!
Wonderful introduction! And a great lecture, as always :)
Grate speaker! ❤
Thank you so much for the very interesting lecture! 🙏🏻👌🏻
Выступление Екатерины Михайловны - праздник для души и сердца ❤
Боже, вы посмотрите, она сидит как ангел и как скульптор ангела at the same moment
Thank you ❤
Oh! How wonderful ❤❤❤❤
Thank you, Freiburg Institute 🙏
@Ekaterina_Schulmann
I've almist missed this jewel of a lecture.
Please open a separate youtube for you lectures in English to make your voice heard globally.
Thanks ❤
Exelent 🎉..1K...what a Lecture 💪✌👌🙏❤ Explains a Lot....
A great lecture, many thanks.
Thanks for posting it.
Thank you for this lecture ❤
Thank you for having our beloved Ekaterina Mikhailovna!
5:50 начало речи Екатерины Михайловны
I love this beautiful Person! This is the best pill for a liberal person who stayed in Russia during this difficult time! 💚
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I wish she could have taken comments from the audience but thank you for letting the lady speak.
Thank you very much.
A wonderful intro speech!
Ekaterina for president ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Забирайте! Дарим! Не благодарите!
so happy and proud of our dear Ekaterina Schoulmann as if she was my family))))))
Yet another awesome lecture with our science rock star!🌠
Danke, thanks, спасибо!🔥
Вижу лайк, ставлю Шульман!
Is this comment is a strange translation or Russian humor? I don't know, but I like it!
Danke schön!
Even though it felt wrong to hear value judgment about the whole generation in the middle of the lecture.
it was the truth anyone younger than 45 thinks in russia tho, very few people have no influence from Soviet political system who grew up there. Hypocrite generation they are
Why should the authorities publish such a low response rate in an autocracy?
My grandma has a lot of complaints about our government, but suggestion to do something about it is met with acusation of being a no good booticker of the west
Schulmann is SO engaging, so helpful compared to the mlre popular commentariat.
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An amazing lecture for non-Russian speaking people who want to know what the hell is happening in the Russians' heads
ЕМ ван лав ❤
It is so good, that opposition's speakers are welcome here]
Nice to see
She should have translated her complete slides, not just the headlines. This lacks some academic respect.
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Brilliant and funny.
Спасибо за возможность послушать Екатерину Михайловну
Why I do lough when EM is joking, and the audience doesn't?
"Should Russia continue the Ukraine special military operation or should it enter into peace talks?"
It's no wonder people are against the idea of nonviolent resistance. They think it means entering into peace talks, which means making concessions to the other side. In fact, nonviolent resistance is the opposite. It means resisting without capitulating until you get what you want. It is used the same way as military action and can be used as a replacement or alongside military action or could replace military action after the military was initially used. It's more than hosting marches and rallies with signs though it can and often does include this.
"hasta derramar la última gota de sangre ucraniana"???
Russian intelligence services turned down the volume!
I do agree whith what the professor said: (32 minute) people don't know what to think. They do agree with the war, but they would like to have some more money. Russians never trust their governments and they are right, although some of them think Putin was doing the right thing to invade Ukraine.
I am Dutch (you might have noticed that I made some mistakes in my English) and I don't trust Putin either, in fact I don't think he has been a very good president. However he also had to manage with the circumstances. I have seen the Russian economy growing in the first ten years of the regime (2000 - 2010). After that it went the wrong way, but we must understand that the west didn't like it to see Russia growing, so the west started to undermine Russia.
Last but not least: our governments are not to be trusted either. Anyone who trusts his government is a prisoner of his mind and his mind is a prisoner of the media.
we are not agree with war, we just know that they are not asking us about anything. So most of us just trying to accomodate ourself in the situation for we have no much things or people we can rely on. It's getting easier if you persuaded yourself that there is some sense in president's action. Otherwise your life is a horror
@@rybkabananka9695 this sounds like what a regular person from any country experiences (although the horrors do vary, but they seem consistent).
Hopefully you find your strength
Anything in particular that Putin has done poorly? Is it distinct to Putin (or Russia), or common to world leaders?
Dear Ekaterina,
Great speech, except most of Rus people do not too much watch tv ))
Bonjur
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Цветаева-Центр?
Weird that at 55:44 she called the optimism poll ‘schizophrenic’ because it’s countered by reduced spending. Seems there’s an underlying assumption in that observation, along the lines that consumerism delivers absolute contentment...?
Well, because it actually is internally contradicted - "the economy is doing great, i can't afford food". It's not about cutting spending on pointless consumerism, it's about eating less because you can't be sure you can afford it.
“VCIOM is a big factory. A lot of people work there….”😂😂😂 You’ll be astonished, but the whole staff of VCIOM (including subsidiaries such as MediaScope, Vox Populi, Ifors, NAFI and “Non-indifferent citizen” project) is less than 250 people…Very big factory :)))
Wikipedia says about 5000 employees conducting surveys. However, that article doesn't have sufficient number of authoritative sources. Where did you find out about 250 people? I'm wondering whether they counted only office workers, or what can be the reason of this difference.
250 человек включая тех, кто непосредственно проводит опросы? Действительно смешно, что кто-то может поверить в эти цифры
@@VictoriaM0 250 people - all the combained full-time staff (and not only pollsters) of VCIOM and subsidiaries…Of course, pert-timers (like interviewers and supervisors - about 250 persons) as well as outsourcers (such as operators in call centres - about 300 persons) are not included…Believe me, I used to work there up to 2020.
250 people is could be considered as a big factory for such an institution.
How does Russia allowed to have a Human Rights think tank?
Я на английском её понимаю лучше, чем на русском, она так не тараторит, когда говорит по-английски
Harsh punishment is
the tool that all Russian dictators and kings have used to rule Russia.
Now let's get back to the politics of the Us shall we..
I totally disagree with the opinian of the man who says that we have a lack of information about the Russian society (first minutes). We (my wife and I) can find information everywhere. You just have to be able to speak and read Russian. We communicate in Russian with quite some people on the internet.
even we in Russia have the lack of information about us, we are afraid to be honest and talk to each other, there's no elections and open discussions. I can never guess who is next to me. So you know better?
Пиздато. Наконец чиселки подъехали с подтверждениями. А то работы научные лень читать а тут разжевали все
Just by looking at the charts presented by Ekaterina, it's clear to me that a national awakening is essential for Russian society. Without it, how can we prevent this largely compliant society from falling prey to an even more harmful leader?
Every citizen must feel the impact of their leaders' decisions. It's a tough but necessary pill to swallow. Unless every member of this society feels the weight of the decisions made by their leadership, Russia cannot be accepted back into the family of European countries.
Guess you are unable to compare the "findings" to the so-called European countries or the US itself! Similarities might surprise you and indeed scare you!
oh then, how we gonna cry
thanks
Thought she was describing europe
6 min intro. WTF
Many things that the speaker said are probably somewhat right but note that she hasn't been living in Russia for more than a year and it's totally ok and her analysis doesn't lose its value entirely because of that but if you make any conclusions based on her speech you're quite likely to make a mistake in some of those conclusions. In fact public opinion in Russia right now is very unstable and if someone sincerely expresses their opinion today you can't rely on it being the same tomorrow.
Isn't it one of the points she literally made? About the opinion polls looking like a heart attack diagnosis?
@@user-mj4rp9gg3i well opinion polls are less stable than pre-war but there's huge problem with opinion polls - the opinion is created at the moment of measurement in a way especially in present day Russia where public discussion of many topics is additionally inhibited because of the war. So if we assume a responent who's not much afraid to be sincere with the pollster he still lacks experience in discussing social and political processes so he responds to questions from a very generic framework which basically mostly influenced by what he perceives as consensus, as what "makes sense" from a very generic standpoint. So when asked about their own life and plans etc they have some real opinion but with societal and political issues it's more like pseudo-opinion and many people actively avoid experiences that would make them form a real opinion on those issues - avoid out of fear. So when some events that go above that threshold of avoidance happen - like mobilization announcement - you can see huge changes in measured public opinion - because some real opinion on some select issues forms at those moments. So you can see that opinion polls' results are very hard to interpret because of the whole dimensions of opinion appearing and disappearing - the very structure of world view expressed in measured opinion changes. And for now we don't see any signs of this process stabilizing - quite the opposite I'd say.
Графики интересные, но вся речь Екатерины, являющаяся комментарием к этим графикам, это только ее интерпретация. Интерпретация. В которой много личных и спорных суждений, ничем не подтверждаемых. Так что, это не объективный анализ, а субъективная оценка.
Несколько слов, просто на заметку: протесты, например, 2021 - не поддерживал сам народ, но выразить свое несогласие с оппозицией было непросто - оппозиция была очень агрессивна.
Далее, некоторую депрессивность после 2014-ого Екатерина связывает с "Крымским кейсом", но есть и другие причины, более скрытые, например, все более плотное распространение и утверждение Транснациональных Корпораций и их влияние ощущал уже даже простой обыватель - они влияли на рынок труда, на уровень заработной платы, на экономику, подавляя развитие малого и среднего бизнеса и на общую атмосферу, везде внедряя свои душные корпоративные стандарты. Они захватывали и подчиняли постепенно, но очень быстро - и политические структуры, и экономические, и социальные, обостряя при этом и общественные противоречия.
Так что, графики это одно, а интерпретация их и связей между ними может опираться на очень различные факторы.
At 23:10 - the war is explained as almost inevitable, as the only way to bring back high approval ratings, yet the start of the war on the 24th of February 2022 came as a big shock to Dr. Shulmann, in many interviews she has since been stressing that 'no sound person' would see it coming. Isn't that a contradiction?
It was not explained as almost inevitable. Rather it was implied that something had to be done by Putin, if he wanted to get his ratings back on track. It didn't have to be a war with Ukraine, it didn't have to be any other attempt at expantion/military invasion, there didn't have to be an attempt to hold on to power at all (retirement or investment in a successor was also an option). And she and many others did not expect them to go through with this not because they believed there are limits Putin wouldn't cross for his precious ratings, but because they believed this would be suicidal for Russia in many ways and expected the ones in power to have atleast some common sense and awareness of the real situation in the country, not the alternative picture they created themselves for the public.
Is there a contradiction? War wasn't the only mean to raise approval ratings. It could even be the real special military operation in DPR and LPR. But starting a full scale war with bombing civilian objects in all major Ukrainian cities - it was a sadistic maniac choice and it definitely is not the reliable strategy for rating improvement.
Wouldn't see it's coming and wouldn't want it to happen are different things, but sometimes one cannot see the difference:)
As I remember, there was no signs of war in civilian public sphere. But there was military experts who claimed that war was coming. Dr. Shulmann's field is exclusively civilian, I can't blame her for this mistake.
She herself also used to say that we at the present moment cannot say whether that just has happened should have happen inevitably or just by mistake.
So, you can't believe anyone, no one can always predict future for sure.
At the beginning of the war rating were fine thanks to the fact that power to introduce all necessary pandemic-related prohibitions was transferred to the local governments. They were hated and compared to the putin was clean.
Economical situation was not favorable, oil prices dropped, local businesses suffered from the pandemic. And war burns money.
Military forces at the Ukrainian border is not something new. Just year before the war they were there too. And they were used (successfully) to kick start negotiations.
No one said the war was impossible, it was considered improbable. As in, to start a full scale war was the most dumb idea at that particular moment.
It was an all in bet.
The Crimea happened without a war. "A foreign policy adventure", as Shulman describes it, could be a lot of things.
мне такой монолог был бы интересен, только если бы было развернутое сравнение с одним-двумя другими обществами (одно европейское, напр., немецкое, другое не европейское - японское какой-нибудь). А без сравнения - это бессмысленная банальная нудятина какая-то, интересная разве что для центра принятия решений в стране - президентской администрации, скорее всего.
This seems harsh. But this was my first thought, too. Is the talk just a complaint? How much of these results are specific to today's Russia?
Cuando empiezas tu discurso enfatizando el aspecto autócrata de Putin, nos advierte sobre la calidad del cristal con que se observará la realidad a exponer.
Basil Lisa
Lady on the right
1:11:00
The lecture sounds too sterile and some statements are questionable. When Ekaterina explained what forms people's opinions, I would say the same is true for western "democracies". The majority of people on both sides have a superfluous vision of the matters they are asked about. Actually, given the induced hysteria regarding Russia nourished by anglo-saxons in Europe, I would say that there is much more propaganda in the countries of the collective West than in Russia. One cannot explane the situation in Russia without refering to the behaviour of the outside actors And Ekaterina always state that she is not an expert on international politics.The lecture doesn't bring the understanding of what is really going on in Russia, though it is in line with tha propagandistic mainstream prevailing in the West
You are not supposed to think this
If we look closely at the US, what is the level of Democracy that the Politicians appear to preach about?
Who selects the names that appear on a Ballot?
Who promotes the Candidates?
What amount of Money is dedicated to promoting the image of democratic actions that appear to make Politicians seem more like they are Cars being advertised?
Most cars now appear to be bland and demonstrate little difference.
Politicians may offer to make social changes, but the balance of a Two Party System in the US, appears to maintain a balance that never allows any Bill that does not support profits for Investor Class Individuals to actually become enacted.
The balance of power that an evenly divided Congress presents, will never allow any Partisan issues to advance out of Committee.
Max Baucus made that issue clear when discussing single payer Health Insurance.
Attempts to make Russia appear to be authoritarian, seem to simply divert attention from the corruption that a $15 billion Electoral Industry demonstrates....
This Woman could have saved her breath.
The US attempts to exploit the planet for cheap resources, have run into Russia and China enabling the Nations that the US used to exploit.
You’re aware that there are other countries besides the United States yes? Why does every American, regardless of political persuasion, make every discussion on political economy and structures a discussion about themselves? It’s pathological at this point.
The existence of problems in US society doesn't eliminate the problem of fucked up Russian government.
US exploit and Russia/China help other nations? That‘s naive to say the least. I prefer systems that at least have some democratic control over economic power. And if there is some additional intergovernmental cooperation, like in the EU, it‘s probably the best available option.
@@achenarmyst2156 Russians are allowed to vote.
You appear to be the one who is unaware that Wealthy Folks appoint the names that appear on a ballot?
Democracy was sold to George and Herman Brown in 1948,
when they bought themselves a Senator.
The cost has increased since then.
@@beane6426 do the Americans not have incredibly robust global propaganda?
If so, then any unresolved widespread social issues create a large amount of pressure for citizens to reconcile why reality is different from the propaganda and why there is no real progress merely to discuss it.
Unfortunately it is a pathology, but it's a symptom of a festering problem.
34:14 - Неправильно переведен русский заголовок слайда на английский. "на Украине" переводится как "In the Ukraine", а "в Украине" будет "in Ukraine".
В английском the употребляется только со всякими составными названиями стран из нескольких слов, например, the United States. Ukraine к таким не относится, значит the не надо.
@@Carl-Gauss Языки так не работают. На самом деле носители говорят как и им нравится, а потом кто-то пытается найти в этом закономерности и придумать простые правила. Поэтому почти из каждого правила есть исключения. Украина до недавнего времени была таким исключением в английском языке - загуглите "in the Ukraine" и узнаете, что такое употребление "now deprecated" благодаря просьбам дипломатов, но еще недавно было стандартом. Ситуация очень похожая на "в/на Украине" в русском. Про это была моя шутка, которую вы не поняли.
@@Carl-Gauss Другие исключения из вашего правила: the Netherlands, the Gambia.
@@Greamzih the употребляется с названиями стран, в которых есть слова республика, королевство и т.д.
@@magitrop5336 Да, но как я писал выше у любого правила есть исключения, например the Gambia, the Netherlands - никаких дополнительных слов, но есть определенный артикль. И Украина долгое время была таким же исключением и это было никак не связано с тем, что Украина бывшая советская республика, как говорили украинские дипломаты. Потому что другие республики исключениями не стали.
Как же она наслаждается собой.
Странно звучащая фраза, не могу не уточнить - что имеется в виду?
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Lol, just go to any Russian public and ask the Russians all these questions, and not the Russian politician.
She's not a politician, she's a scientist. And Russian public won't tell you much, if they support the regime, they'll topenly ell you so, if not - they simply won't, too dangerous. People don't trust each other, too dangerous as well..
@@engraver3248 Half of my friends before 2015 were Russians and I've heard enough from them.
Ни о чем.... столько воды и самооправдания. Розовая пони.
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Wonderful example of an opportunist at work 🤪
because her ethnicity isnt Russian, she has some other background
Keep in mind that failed runaway politicians might have never been able to understand their subject properly. Not to mention the personal interest in misleading their audience.
what in particular 'failed runaway politicians' are you talking about?
Ekaterina is - and has always been - a scientist.
Так, дуже.. ну дуже цікаво і пізнавально, але річ в тім, що я в цю секунду чую голосні вибухи в Києві, і на годиннику 3:25 ночі. За останні 40 діб, тільки 10 ночей були, відносно, тихими. І я розумію, що оцій пані і переважній більшості росіян, не знайоме почуття емпатії. І так, саме переважній більшості! Це в Німеччині, або в іншій країні Західного світу, їй будуть вірити, бо вони не мають іншої інформації. Але українці, які у 80% мають родичів/знайомих в Рф, (мали, бо 2014 року, а особливо після 24.02 -- у нас більше немає їх. Є вороги, які підтримують війну і повторюють ті чи інші тези путіна. )з упевненістю можуть говорити, про реальну підтримку війни громадянами Рф. Різного соц статусу, рівня забезпеченості, освіченості, географічного місця проживання -- усім притаманна імперська агресивна риторика!
А Шульман, науковець, викладач, працівник просвіти, за всі роки в Рф не змогла своїм громадянам пояснити і навчити політичної і громадянської початкової грамоти. Чому?
От і доводиться тепер, працювати на західну аудиторію, аби "відбілити" росіян, аби уникнути відповідальності громадян і країни вцілому.
"Це все Путін!" -- такі норативи, зазвичай транслюють!
Странная такая позиция. "Мы знаем лучше, потому что у нас *БЫЛИ* контакты в РФ". Оно, как бы, мира вам и добра, конечно, но вы ангажированы.
То, что с вами происходит, бесспорно, ужасно. Но это не дает вам более объективного и подробного знания о настроениях россиян.
Она учёный, а не политик. Она и не должна доказывать свою точку зрения, она занимается своим предметом, а именно политикой и социологией России. Да и к тому же вы не можете знать, что у нее на душе
@@user-fj1pl9kt6m у вас все не политики. И вы все «вне политики», и «политикой не интересуетесь»
Что по вашему такое «политика..?
Попробуйте самообразоваться в этом вопросе. Потом не будете писать такую чушт
Эеаучить можно только тех,кто хочет учиться, и посветить - только тех, кто хочет просвещаться. Ожидать от человека, что он(а) сможет просветить всю страну - это, мягко сказать, самонадеянно...
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Great excuse for Russia, right? I wonder why this excuse did not work for Germany in 1946, because the German people are also not to blame for anything.
Do you believe that all German people were punished in 1946? Like, say, some USSR nations by Stalin around the same time?
@@user-mj4rp9gg3i немецкий народ прошел долгий планомерный процес денацификации (настоящей лол), который начался 1945-46 и занял много лет (можно сказать что идёт до сих пор), несмотря на то, что все они, как и россияне сейчас говорили одни и те же слова: "мы ничего не могли сделать", "мы ничего не знали", "мы не интересовались политикой". Народы советского союза были не наказаны, а подвержены геноциду. Помощь Германии во время войны была неоправданным предлогом для геноцида, потому что наказать за какие-либо военные преступления может только военный трибунал и то, не весь народ (не мог каждый человек участвовать в войне), а определенные персоны которые непосредственно совершали приступление, в котором обвиняют.
@@Leon-desu впервые вижу, чтоб человек спизданул какую-то невероятную хуйню, а потом начал говорить как здравомыслящая и владеющая корректной информацией личность. Good for you.
Приятно видеть таких людей зарубежом. Пусть там и сидят.
Вы ратуете за отъезд лучших представителей страны.
если бы Ваше 'проклятье' осуществилось, мы бы остались с Дугиным, Силантьевым и Патрушевым.
за что Вы так с Россией? неужели не хватило опыта начала 20 века?
Каких "таких"? Грамотных и умеющих правильно написать "за рубежом"? Вам бы, конечно, было неприятно видеть таких рядом с вами.
не расслабляйтесь, нас тут тоже до фига
I'm glad so many people like Schulmann left the country, it proved who they really were - agents of foreign powers who acted against the interests of the country instigating social distrust and rebellion against the government. Good bye, Schulmann, you won't be missed
These "agents" were mostly forced to choose between imprisonment for telling the truth publicly or leaving the country.
this is ridiculous. Please have a look on boarder interviews to understand real composition, but not shiny TV opinion
Putin's interests are not the country's ones.
and who we gonna stay with?
Dugin and Australin serfings hatred?
Zorkin and 17th century maps?
Volodin and 'English is dead'?
whats wrong with you? why would you hate the country so much?
"the country instigating social distrust" - so true.
Какого хера мне шульманеллёз ытюб подсовывает